B. I don't know how fast bodies decompose under what circumstances. Actually, probably pretty decomposed, now that I think about it. Come to think of it, maybe the abrasions wouldn't show anymore, but that helped you guys so oh well.
Answer: LB killed Idealist after he made a joke about her strange desires, then attempted to make it look like one of Tia's stories by hiring the Ice Man from Spider-Friends to freeze the lake with the man's body in it.
111: No, but here's some advice. If you have a question with multiple elements, break them down into the simplest elements, because sometimes I have to answer no when really there might be an elucidating yes to one part of it hidden inside.
OK, I'm guessing that this lake harbored the unspeakable evil of Yog-Sothoth. The man was walking his dog innocently through the woods, by his bad luck it happened to be the winter solstice, when the Elder Spirits are at their most active. As they passed the lake, man and dog were seized by Yog Sothoth's eldritch minions, rended and torn and sacrificed to the god. They were then pulled into the water as it froze, the god's bestial appetite for blood sated.
Did the man have abrasions before entering the water? Did he have any blood loss? Was he suffering from frostbite? From hypothermia (even if it didn't kill him)?
Did it involve any aid to motion (roller skate's, skis, anything other than the un-aided human body)?
When, in the post, you use the words "his dog" do you mean that the man had the relationship of ownership to a canine and that the same canine is the one which died in the same manner which he did, on a temporarily frozen lake?
Was the man being chased by anything? Did the chaser have anything to do with the man's death? Did what the man was being chased by cause the man's injuries?
I don't get it. If he was being chased by something at some point in time, but it wasn't human or animal...
Your answer to 168a ("was an animal chasing them?") was negative. Your answer to 177a ("were they being chased by a person") was negative. And yet "If he was being chased by something at some point in time, but it wasn't human or animal..." contains an invalid presumption. Hmm...
It would be easier for the readers, perhaps, if you just edited all the comments with questions to add an answer to them directly. Is that doable, convenient?
Yeah, a different format might help, with the answer enclosed in brackets. Sorry we keep asking repeat questions, but it's tricky: find the question, scroll down 5-7 comments, hope the numbers line up, remember the precise wording.
A volunteer with a web site (or who knows a wiki that would be friendly) could make a page listing and organizing all the questions as they're asked and answered. I would be one such volunteer, for future games.
231: The dog has serious injuries. The dog caused the injuries. The injuries on the man caused the man's death. The injuries on the dog caused the dog's death. The dog did not run further onto the ice when the man was injured. At some point, the man shouted at the dog.
248: I think this has been asked, and I'm not sure how long it would take them to actually die, so I could answer yes or no without it making a big difference, I think.
Do they have a net full of dead fish?
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:34 AM
Has the dog been sexually abused?
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:35 AM
Is it the vernal equinox?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:36 AM
1: No
2: No
3: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:37 AM
Has the dog been physically abused?
Is the man above the age of consent in the state where he died?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:41 AM
Does the man have any tattoos?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:42 AM
Is his mother a member of the D.A.R.?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:43 AM
Is the lake made of water?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:44 AM
Did the man know how to swim?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:44 AM
Is the lake normally lower?
Is it downsream from a dam?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:45 AM
5a: What do you mean by phsyically abused? I guess no.
5b: No
6: No
7: No
8: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:46 AM
9: yes
10: no to both
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:47 AM
Did the man drown before the dog?
Did the man enter the water before the dog?
Did the man enter the water simultaneously with the dog?
If the above questions are unanswerable because there were multiple entries, consider only the last entries.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:48 AM
Is the lake bigger than a breadbox?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:49 AM
13a: No
13b: No
13c: Yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:49 AM
Did the dog drown?
Did the man?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:50 AM
14: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:50 AM
Did the dog have his shots?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:51 AM
16: No to both.
18: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:52 AM
Did the man enter the lake's waters from the shoreline?
From a boat?
From the air?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:52 AM
20: No to all.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:53 AM
Was the dog holding a gun or other weapon? How about the man?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:54 AM
Is the lake above ground?
If yes, was it always?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:55 AM
22: I need a more specific time reference to answer that question.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:55 AM
23: yes to both
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:56 AM
22: Actually, on reflection, I'm answering no to both.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 10:59 AM
To generalize then: Was a weapon discovered at the scene?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:00 AM
27: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:01 AM
Was an autopsy (sp?) performed? If so, was the cause of death for the man determined to be drowning? How about the dog?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:02 AM
Well, I don't know about the autopsy, but they didn't drown (see 19)
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:03 AM
Oh, missed that.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:04 AM
Were there abrasions on the man's body?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:05 AM
32: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:06 AM
Were there wounds on the dog's body?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:06 AM
34: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:07 AM
bridge over the lake?
Posted by soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:08 AM
Can I make a guess at what happened?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:08 AM
36: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:08 AM
Sure, TMK
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:09 AM
Were their deaths shortly before they were found (say, 48 hours)?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:09 AM
40: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:10 AM
33: were the wounds consistent with ones that would be caused by a gun? By a knife?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:10 AM
42: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:11 AM
Has the lake existed in its current form for more than 10 years?
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:11 AM
Eh, 42 was actually with regard to 35. WRT 33, were the abrasions consistent with dog bites?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:12 AM
Was the man skydiving shortly before his death? The dog? Were they skydiving over the lake?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:13 AM
44: yes
(One thing that's hard about this game is sometimes words can have more than one meaning, and then you're not sure how to answer.)
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:13 AM
45: No
46: No to all
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:14 AM
Is the man wearing anything out of the ordinary? A uniform? A jumpsuit? Scuba gear?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:14 AM
49: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:14 AM
Does the lake freeze over in winter?
Posted by dave heasman | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:15 AM
51: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:16 AM
Well then.
Posted by dave heasman | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:16 AM
a. Did they die before entering the lake?
b. Are they in an advanced state of decomposition?
c. Have they been dead more than a month?
d. A week?
e. 48 hours?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:17 AM
Had the man ever eaten abalone before?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:18 AM
Were the abrasions and wounds consistent with being attacked by piranhas or other predatory fish?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:21 AM
54:
A. no
B. I don't know how fast bodies decompose under what circumstances. Actually, probably pretty decomposed, now that I think about it. Come to think of it, maybe the abrasions wouldn't show anymore, but that helped you guys so oh well.
C. No
D. Yes
E. Yes
55: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:23 AM
56: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:24 AM
58: No
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:24 AM
59: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:25 AM
60: oh?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:26 AM
At the time of death, was the man being attacked by a person? An animal?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:29 AM
Did the man die because he was tired of the motherfucking snakes on a plane?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:31 AM
62: No to both
63: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:32 AM
Answer: LB killed Idealist after he made a joke about her strange desires, then attempted to make it look like one of Tia's stories by hiring the Ice Man from Spider-Friends to freeze the lake with the man's body in it.
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:32 AM
Were they eaten by a former bassist and singer for King Crimson?
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:34 AM
Is FL wrong that Iceman was ever a super-friend?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:34 AM
Crap, "Spider-Friends." That's less wrong.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:35 AM
65: No, 66: No, 67: Google is your friend
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:35 AM
Are they in or near New Orleans?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:36 AM
Was the death of either of them the intention of any person, including the dead man?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:36 AM
At the time they were found, did the lake intersect with a chronosynclastic infundibulum?
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:38 AM
70: no
71: no
72: What does that mean?
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:39 AM
Is it relevant what year their death took place in?
If aksing the first question violates a norm of the game, please ignore it and the "if so" clause of the next question.
If so, did their death take place in a year post-1900?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:40 AM
Is the dead body actually a metaphor for w/d's reputation for accuracy in super-hero debates?
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:41 AM
Does 74a violate a norm of the game?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:42 AM
I bow to your expertise in Saturday morning children's cartoons.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:43 AM
74a: well, to some extent, kind of
74b: you can ask any yes or no question
74c: yes
75: it admits multiple interpretations
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:43 AM
76: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:44 AM
does the lake freeze?
Posted by soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:44 AM
80: yes. (see 52)
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:45 AM
Is the time of year particularly relevant?
Posted by skp | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:45 AM
82: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:46 AM
Were they eaten by a former bassist and singer for King Crimson?
Are you thinking of John Wetton, Boz Burrell, Gordon Haskell, or Greg Lake?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:46 AM
Did they freeze to death?
Posted by skp | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:47 AM
85: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:48 AM
84: Does ya needs ta ask, (you Tony Levin forgetter, you)?
72: It's a reference to this.
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:51 AM
Did they die while present on the frozen lake slightly before it unfroze?
Was the man blind?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:52 AM
84: Does ya needs ta ask, (you Tony Levin forgetter, you)?
Tony Levin only ever sang backup vocals, so I wasn't sure whether to include him or not.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:54 AM
Is the lake near an urban area? Is it far from any urban area?
Is it springtime when they're discovered? Is the lake just thawing out when they're discovered?
Were they at any point frozen into the ice?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:56 AM
89: Yeah, I remebered that condition after I 87ed. But what backup vocals they were!
Posted by Mo MacArbie | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 11:57 AM
88a: depending on your definition of slightly, yes
88b: no
99: the lake is far from any urban area
90: the lake is just thawing out when they're discovered
they were at no point frozen into the ice
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:01 PM
92 me, obvs
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:06 PM
Were they floating underneath the ice before it thawed?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:11 PM
94: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:12 PM
Were they camping before they were killed?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:14 PM
Was the man fishing on the ice, and got pulled down underneath by a really big fish?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:15 PM
Is my best chance to make you exclaim "yes!" repeatedly in this sort of comment thread?
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:15 PM
96: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:15 PM
98: No. There's always room for improvement.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:16 PM
97?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:17 PM
Sorry, 97: no.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:18 PM
100: yes!
Posted by FL | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:19 PM
Was the man fishing on the ice, and got pulled down underneath to his death?
Shortly before entering the lake, was the man more than a few feet off the ground?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:20 PM
Is my imagination defective?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:21 PM
104: No to both
105: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:22 PM
I prefer Botticelli, but I guess I can follow the advice in the post title.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:28 PM
Is the cause of death for both he and his dog the same?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:30 PM
We can play Botticelli again later.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:30 PM
108: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:30 PM
Did the dog run out on to the ice, and the man ran after it?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:31 PM
Can I think of someone the next time around?
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:32 PM
111: No, but here's some advice. If you have a question with multiple elements, break them down into the simplest elements, because sometimes I have to answer no when really there might be an elucidating yes to one part of it hidden inside.
112: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:34 PM
Were any other humans present (let's call present "on the lake") when they died?
Were any other animals?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:35 PM
114: No to all.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:36 PM
Is the lake made of water?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:37 PM
Oops, missed #8. nvm.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:38 PM
Hypothermia?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:40 PM
118: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:40 PM
I'm glad you don't have hypothermia/
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:42 PM
Come over here an lemme warm ya up.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:44 PM
this might be stupid.
were they in a boat?
Posted by skp | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:45 PM
(With the fire in my loins.)
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:45 PM
Was the death accidental? Were the man and his dog en route to someplace when the indicdent occurred?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:47 PM
122: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:48 PM
were they stuck on an ice floe?
Posted by skp | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:49 PM
124: yes
125: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:49 PM
126: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:50 PM
was the dog rabid?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:50 PM
129: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:50 PM
had the dog been on a leash?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:52 PM
Was their death caused by the temperature?
Did their cause of death leave any marks on their body?
Are the rumors about you & FL true? Will ogged be crushed?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:53 PM
Was the man aware that he was doing anything dangerous before he entered the water? Or did it take him by surprise?
Did the man have a purpose for being on the lake? Was it recreational?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:53 PM
131: No
132a: yes
132b: yes, see all of TMK's questions in this thread about marks and abrasions
132c: depends on the rumor
132d: he'll find solace elsewhere
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:55 PM
133a) no.
133b) yes
133c) yes
134) yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:56 PM
Did the dog run onto the ice first?
Did the man then run after it?
Did the man run onto the ice first?
Did the dog then run after him?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:56 PM
Did the dog run onto the ice?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:57 PM
OK, I'm guessing that this lake harbored the unspeakable evil of Yog-Sothoth. The man was walking his dog innocently through the woods, by his bad luck it happened to be the winter solstice, when the Elder Spirits are at their most active. As they passed the lake, man and dog were seized by Yog Sothoth's eldritch minions, rended and torn and sacrificed to the god. They were then pulled into the water as it froze, the god's bestial appetite for blood sated.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:57 PM
135: 133 has four parts.
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 12:58 PM
In 135, 134 should be 133d.
these are still a little hard to answer, but here's my effort at least misleading
136a) yes
136b) no
136c) no
136d) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:00 PM
Was the man wearing ice skates?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:00 PM
137, yes. A more hearty yes than to "did the dog run onto the ice first" for slight reasons of implication.
141: No
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:01 PM
Does the age of the man (young teen, see 5, 11) have anything to do with the answer?
Was the man dead before entering the water?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:02 PM
Is the area around the lake wooded?
Was the man killed by falling icicles? An avalanche?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:03 PM
143a) No
143b) Hard to say.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:03 PM
144a) irrelevant
144b) no
144c) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:04 PM
Was the man dragged onto the ice by the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:04 PM
Was the man dragged into the water? By the dog?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:05 PM
Jinx! and no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:06 PM
Was the man riding on the dog, which is why you don't like the word "first"?
Did the dog drag the man onto the ice?
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:07 PM
Plagiarism!
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:08 PM
Did the man have abrasions before entering the water? Did he have any blood loss? Was he suffering from frostbite? From hypothermia (even if it didn't kill him)?
Was the man very hungry before dying?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:08 PM
Was the dog pulling a dogsled?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:10 PM
Was the death caused in part by (a) carelessness or (b) poor planning on the part of the man?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:10 PM
150a) no
150b) no
I didn't like the word "first" because it implied something inaccurate about what the man was doing.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:10 PM
Did the man ever run on to the ice? Did the man go from not on the ice to on the ice by a volitional act?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:11 PM
Was the man being chased by something?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:11 PM
Was the dog a bitch?
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:12 PM
152a) yes
152 b) yes
152 c)no
152d) no
152e) no
153 no
154 yes to both
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:12 PM
Did they die as the result of the kind of man and dog activity that has Santorum so worried?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:12 PM
156a) no
156 b) yes
157) at any time? yes.
158) irrelevant
160) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:14 PM
Was the blood loss the cause of death? Was it serious? Was it caused by an accident with a knife? A gun?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:15 PM
138: as an aside, kicks at least 5 of the 7 kinds of ass. probably more.
Posted by soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:16 PM
162a) for hypertechnical reasons of phrasing, I *think* the answer to this is no, but don't read too much into that
163b) yes
no to the rest of 163
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:17 PM
damn, didn't close that link properly. sigh.
Posted by soubzriquet | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:18 PM
arg. in 164, I mean only to refer to 162. I get confused when answering the multiparts.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:18 PM
163 -- Wow, thanks!
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:20 PM
Was an animal chasing them?
Did the dog pull the man onto the ice?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:20 PM
Tia, do you not not not ever dislike not not me?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:21 PM
Did the volitional act involve a vehicle?
Did it involve any aid to motion (roller skate's, skis, anything other than the un-aided human body)?
When, in the post, you use the words "his dog" do you mean that the man had the relationship of ownership to a canine and that the same canine is the one which died in the same manner which he did, on a temporarily frozen lake?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:21 PM
168a)no
168b) I think three other people have asked this. including you! no.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:22 PM
Was a car involved?
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:23 PM
170a) no
170b) no
170c) yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:25 PM
172) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:26 PM
Is there any evidence at the scene after the death as to how the death occurred?
If not, how can this be based on a true story? Because the guy just barely survived in the real one?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:27 PM
175a) There is.
Anyway, it's based on a true story. I took some liberties. In the real version the guy escaped death, but he easily might not have.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:28 PM
Were they being chased by a person? Was the person trying to kill the man?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:29 PM
177: no. No one else is around. I said that somewhere upthread.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:30 PM
Was the man being chased by anything? Did the chaser have anything to do with the man's death? Did what the man was being chased by cause the man's injuries?
I don't get it. If he was being chased by something at some point in time, but it wasn't human or animal...
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:33 PM
179a). yes at some point
179b) yes
179c) yes
your last sentence contains a presumption not supported by what I said.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:36 PM
Before he died, did the man have a gun?
Was an animal chasing the man?
Was an animal chasing the dog?
Did the chaser physically injure the man?
Did the chaser physcially injure the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:38 PM
Your answer to 168a ("was an animal chasing them?") was negative. Your answer to 177a ("were they being chased by a person") was negative. And yet "If he was being chased by something at some point in time, but it wasn't human or animal..." contains an invalid presumption. Hmm...
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:39 PM
Well, it should go without saying that plenty of us would like to meet you.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:39 PM
183 is in the wrong thread.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:39 PM
183?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:40 PM
What's wrong with that number?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:41 PM
181a: no
181b: yes
181c: yes
181d: yes
181e: yes
182: I stand by everything.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:42 PM
If this computer had Firefox, tabbed browsing would have prevented that. I have too many windows open.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:42 PM
It's a thoroughly immoral number. Have you heard what happened to 186?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:43 PM
shit! 181c: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:43 PM
OK, now your little semantic games are starting to unravel... *maniacal laughter*
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:45 PM
Gotcha. Figured we need to separate the 'them'.
Did the man run onto the lake?
Did the dog attempt to defend the man from the chaser?
Can the chaser fly?
Is the chaser supernatural?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:45 PM
192a) no
192b) no
192c) no
192d) no. This is a totally plausible story. There aren't any supernatural elements.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:47 PM
Did the dog (the one that died) harm the man?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:49 PM
194: yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:49 PM
There aren't any supernatural elements.
Certainly not. The Elder Deities are foundational elements of our reality, nothing is more "natural" than they.
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:51 PM
Is that which chased the man, but not the dog, an animal?
Was the man startled at being chased?
Did the chaser cause the wounds on the dog?
Did the man and dog die of starvation?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:51 PM
Does that make the dog "the chaser" in your answer to 181d?
Was the man also chasing the dog (in 181e)?
or was there a third party involved at some point?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:52 PM
197a) yes
197b) yes
197c) yes
197d) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:53 PM
did the man and the dog fight?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:53 PM
200: no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:54 PM
198a) yes
198b) no
198c) no
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:55 PM
could you edit comment 199 so we know which questions you're answering?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:56 PM
I deny that A can have the relationship to B "being chased by" at the same time that A has the relationship to B "is chasing." I therefore ask:
was the dog chasing the man prior to the man chasing the dog?
was the man chasing the dog prior to the dog chasing the man?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:56 PM
Did the dog cause his own wounds during the chase?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:56 PM
Sorry, yes, just a sec, I get all bolloxed with the multipart questions like I said.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:57 PM
Did the man die before the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:57 PM
It would be easier for the readers, perhaps, if you just edited all the comments with questions to add an answer to them directly. Is that doable, convenient?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:58 PM
204 was based on a misreading of 199, ignore it.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 1:58 PM
Yeah, a different format might help, with the answer enclosed in brackets. Sorry we keep asking repeat questions, but it's tricky: find the question, scroll down 5-7 comments, hope the numbers line up, remember the precise wording.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:00 PM
Cala, I edited
207) no
204) what? maybe you were confused by my messed up 199, which is now edited.
205) yes
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:00 PM
208: it would probably easier for me just to type complete sentences, so I'll do that from now on.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:01 PM
Would it be fair to describe the dog's actions as 'attacking the man'?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:02 PM
213: It would not be fair to describe the dog's actions as attacking the man.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:03 PM
A volunteer with a web site (or who knows a wiki that would be friendly) could make a page listing and organizing all the questions as they're asked and answered. I would be one such volunteer, for future games.
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:04 PM
Did the chase begin playfully?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:04 PM
Was the man attacking the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:04 PM
216: The chase began playfully.
217: The man was not attacking the dog.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:05 PM
Did the dog initiate the chase?
If so, was it as a game?
Did the man think he was being attacked?
If so, did he respond by attacking the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:07 PM
Was the dog very hungry?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:08 PM
219:
The dog initiated the chase.
The dog thought it was a game
The man did not think he was being attacked.
He did not respond by attacking the dog.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:08 PM
220: the dog wasn't hungry
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:09 PM
Was the man asleep when the dog initiated the chase?
Was he startled by the dog's initiation of the chase?
Are the wounds on the man the result of the chase?
When the chase began, were they already on the ice of the lake?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:12 PM
The dog caused the injuries which caused serious blood loss in the man?
The man was aware that the dog caused these injuries?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:12 PM
The man wasn't asleep when the dog initiated the chase.
The man was startled by the dog's initiation of the chase
The wounds on the man are the result of the chase
They were already on the ice when the chase began.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:13 PM
The dog caused the injuries that caused serious blood loss in the man.
The man was aware that the dog caused these injuries.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:14 PM
After the dog caused the injuries, the man did not think he was being attacked by the dog?
The man was in an altered state of consciousness?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:16 PM
227: The man did not think he was being attacked by the dog.
No he was not in an altered state of consciousness.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:17 PM
Did the dog cause the wounds by biting? using claws?
By another kind of physical contact?
Or by the man trying to avoid the dog?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:18 PM
Was the man aware of the injuries?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:20 PM
Are the injuries which the dog has serious?
If so, did the dog cause the serious injuries himself?
Did the injuries on the man cause the man's death?
Did the injuries on the dog cause the dog's death?
Did the dog run further onto the ice when the man was injured?
Did the man shout at the dog?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:20 PM
229: The dog did not cause the wounds by biting or using claws.
I guess I'll say yes, the dog caused the wounds by physical contact.
The wounds were not caused by the man trying to avoid the dog.
Posted by Anonymous | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:20 PM
Did the man fall through the ice?
Did the dog fall through the ice?
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:20 PM
Did the man break a bone?
Did the dog break a bone?
Were the injuries caused by falling on the ice?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:22 PM
230: The man, I guess, was aware of his injuries.
231: The dog has serious injuries. The dog caused the injuries. The injuries on the man caused the man's death. The injuries on the dog caused the dog's death. The dog did not run further onto the ice when the man was injured. At some point, the man shouted at the dog.
Both the man and the dog fell through the ice.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:24 PM
Did the dog injure the man while attempting climb out of the water back onto the ice?
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:25 PM
"attempting to climb"
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:29 PM
234: They probably both broke bones. The injuries were not caused by falling on the ice
236: The dog did not injure the man while attempting to climb out of the water back onto the ice.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:33 PM
Did any of the man's injuries occur before he fell through the ice?
Did any of the man's injuries occur after he fell through the ice?
Did any of the dog's injuries occur before it fell through the ice?
Did any of the dog's injuries occur after it fell through the ice?
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:37 PM
Was a structure present on the ice?
Was a fire/heat source present on the ice?
Were any of the injuries burns?
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:37 PM
Was a vehicle present on the ice?
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:39 PM
239:Yes, some of the man's injuries occured before he fell through the ice?
Maybe some others occured after he fell through the ice too, but it hardly mattered.
The same holds true for the dog.
240: A structure was not present on the ice. A fire/heat source of sorts was present on the ice. Some of the injuries were burns.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:40 PM
Were the writhing, wailing denizens of heck presont on the ice?
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:40 PM
241: a vehicle was not present on the ice.
243: the writhing, wailing denizens of heck were not presont on the ice.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:42 PM
Did the man realize he was on ice before he fell through? (Take "before" not to mean "immediately before".)
Posted by My Alter Ego | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:43 PM
245: The man knew he was on ice.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:45 PM
Hah! Made ya say "presont".
Posted by The Modesto Kid | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:46 PM
Were the man and the dog dead before they fell through the ice?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:47 PM
248: I think this has been asked, and I'm not sure how long it would take them to actually die, so I could answer yes or no without it making a big difference, I think.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:50 PM
Okay, I'll ask it a different way:
Were the injuries they received prior to falling through the ice sufficient to cause their deaths?
Were the man and the dog injured simultaneously?
Did the man fall in the fire?
Did the dog fall in the fire?
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:54 PM
The injuries they received prior to falling through the ice were sufficient to cause their deaths. They were injured simultaneously.
I didn't say there was a fire, precisely.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 2:56 PM
Was there a campfire? Was there a device containing an actual flame? Was there a lantern? Was the device hot on any exposed part?
Posted by pdf23ds | Link to this comment | 03-24-06 3:03 PM
252: There wasn't a campfire.
There was at one point a device that contained a flame, if I understand the mechanism correctly.
There wasn't a lantern.
At some points, the device was hot on an exposed part.
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