Re: Sunburn

1

"park" not "part"

horizontal rule
2

Was it at the nudist park?

horizontal rule
3

The GoP will tell you that you are being unscientific and possibly even unpatriotic for asking such questions.

I' m glad you had a good day though.

Spring was evident here too, so I had to get all four bikes back on their tyres and serviceable for active duty in the Wienerwald on Sunday.

Hope you didn't get too close to the Goose though, they can hurt.

horizontal rule
4

I've noticed burns happening more quickly over the past few years.

horizontal rule
5

Moonbat nonsense Apo.

Get with the programme will you.

horizontal rule
6

Don't know, but it's the kind of thing I find myself thinking about lately. I don't obsess about effects to the ozone--I'm alert enough to hear soon when there are measurable changes. Though broadly fair, I am brown for a redhead, and unlike my brother always tanned as well as freckled, so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days. I have no idea if suscetibility changes as we age; don't remember ever hearing.

horizontal rule
7

how closely one can approach a goose before it flees

Echoing Austro, I was attacked by a goose when I was a child and those things are scary when enraged. Scarier when they're about your height.

"A goose don't give a fuck."

horizontal rule
8

re: 3

Actually, I think most GOP'ers would say, as I say, sorry you got sunburned. Though it sounds like you had a nice day with Sally.

The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather is that you really appreciate a beautiful day like yesterday. I spent most of yesterday walking around the city just for the fun of it.

horizontal rule
9

I retract in the light of Idealist's 8.

Not the GOP'ers, you understand, but I ought to have been more precise with the jibe.

Sorry.

horizontal rule
10

Don't apologize, Austro. We can work a good cop/bad cop thing here to convert Idealist to the One True Path of Democracy.

horizontal rule
11

That would be a shining path, would it? :)

horizontal rule
12

With enough floppy hats and sunscreen, no need to worry about the ozone layer. Of course, the water from the former polar ice caps will lapping around our ankles...or am I mixing up ecological disasters?

horizontal rule
13

Why does this good cop/bad cop thing always have to be so binary? Why can't interrogations have disengaged cops, self-absorbed cops, neutral cops and passive-agressive cops in the mix?

horizontal rule
14

Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one. I guess, having made such a hit with Amsterdam, they felt that Nieuw Amsterdam ought to be a breeze.

horizontal rule
15

Fireman cops, construction-worker cops, Indian cops…

horizontal rule
16

Actually Idealist's The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather has set me wondering about the Dutch (it is a slow day, dontchaknow) and their propensity for building cities where you might not expect to find one.

Hey! New York is perhaps the finest natural site for a city on the planet. We have a huge and well protected harbor, a long navigable river leading inland, incredibly fertile farmland on all sides (Jersey could probably feed the rest of the US if you moved all the people out of it, stable bedrock ideal for building on -- what more do you want?

so that my best guess as to why I seem to burn more now is that I'm less tanned to start with these days.

Doesn't work for me, I've never been tanned at all. Just various shades of pink and freckled.

horizontal rule
17

The fruit stand guy has taken his perch in front of my office building for the season again today! That makes me happy. It really is Spring now.

horizontal rule
18

12: For the last time people: It is received wisdom, it says here, that there is no ecological disaster and any attempt to prove otherwise is necessarily unscientific. Got it?

Any unseasonal sunburns, are entirely your own problem.

Skin Cancer rates in Australia? Statistically inpept studies, see above.

horizontal rule
19

New York is perhaps the finest natural site for a city on the planet.

Perhaps true. But it still has the world's worst weather.

horizontal rule
20

Heh. The NY Times had a story on the Wiggles (Australian little-kid band, for the non-parents) and Sally was looking at the picture and asking what was wrong with them. It took me a minute to figure out what she meant, and then I realized "Sun damage. That's why you wear sunscreen, so you don't end up looking like the Wiggles."

horizontal rule
21

16: Around the rocks (which create their own problem) were marshes, no? And as for the climate... well.. hey its a marvellous harbour!

horizontal rule
22

I walked on that newish Hudson River promenade from Battery Park to 14th Street yesterday. It was pretty fantastic.

Right now, though, looks like rain.

horizontal rule
23

Asperger cop reporting for duty, with my very long truncheon.

92 degrees in Dallas yesterday, we have been averaging 20+ degrees above normal for six months now. Summer is looking scarey and expensive. 115-120 will kill ya.

I am a natural redhead and used to burn a lot. After years in Texas and daily dog walks, I don't burn any more. Not dark, but I guess brown enough.

horizontal rule
24

Ok, the New York Times website is completely freaking me out.

(WTF? No more Times New Roman???)

horizontal rule
25

I'm good with cloud cover for today, really. (Not so much for me, given that I'm, obviously, indoors, but for Sally. She didn't get burned as badly as I did, having inherited some melanin from Buck, but she got fairly pink as well.)

horizontal rule
26

Some say that the ozone layer has become shriller since September 11, but in fact the blame lies with the Clenis.

horizontal rule
27

Oops. Forgot the .com.

horizontal rule
28

Graham IM'd me today, all like, "OMG, have you seen the Times?!"

horizontal rule
29

First color photographs, now this.

horizontal rule
30

When I saw the new Times last night and freaked out, I almost posted about it here and then thought "Naah. I'll just put the post on my personal site. Really, how many people are going to get as worked up about this as me?"

horizontal rule
31

28: Oh my God, I'm going to have to read it, and I'm going to be all freaked out by the typeface, and is it going to make me feel bathed in stodginess and GOP spin like the old Times does? Odds are pretty darn slim.

horizontal rule
32

In fact, the Clenis pierced the delicate ozone layer, and that's what made the hole. Then it rained, and the raindrops turned our litmus paper red. This is why we all have to shun the ozone layer, much as it pains us.

horizontal rule
33

I like the new NYT.com; you are all hidebound and reactionary.

horizontal rule
34

The new Times is very disturbing.

horizontal rule
35

I would not go so far as to call the new NYT website an overall improvement, but it's not so bad--some things are better; I just find it a bit harder to read.

horizontal rule
36

Naah. I'll just put the post on my personal site.

Because ... Unfogged is your professional site?

horizontal rule
37

"personal site" meaning "site where I can write inane crap without caring whether anyone else would be interested".

horizontal rule
38

As opposed to the inane crap I write here that may occasionally interest others.

horizontal rule
39

I have to say, the inane crap on your blog looks every bit as good as the inane crap here.

horizontal rule
40

I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser. But having let the evildoers have their way with me for a spell, I have to say good riddance to Times New Roman, the least screen-friendly font in common use. (Compare Comic Sans, the most microwaving-your-pets font in common use.)

horizontal rule
41

SB and me, forming the vanguard of the New Revolution. Which will not be covered in Times New Roman.

horizontal rule
42

I type all my professional correspondence in Comic Sans.

horizontal rule
43

I guess I'm the only one who checks the "hands off my fonts, evildoers" box in my browser.

I used to do that but grew tired of the conflicts it seemed to cause with websites whose designers counted on their text being a particular width and height.

I still keep the "hands off my foreground and background colors" box checked, though. It makes sites like Fafblog! be remarkably closer to work-safe.

horizontal rule
44

I'm partial to Estrangelo Edessa.

horizontal rule
45

I seal all my professional correspondence inside a dead goat.

I thought the preferred method was to tatoo the correspondence onto the shaved scalp of your slave, then allow his hair to grow back before sending him you your addressee, who would reshave the scalp to read the message.

horizontal rule
46

(a Gillette(tm) Fusion(tm) may come in handy for such professional correspondence.

horizontal rule
47

)

horizontal rule
48

Another person who thought "wtf! The NYT redesigned their site?!?" I didn't much like the old design, to be fair, but the new one is worse.

horizontal rule
49

The sun need not be stronger, if you've spent the winter in grey New York sans sunshine, and this was the first time out and you have pale skin like I do.

I once burned at a football game where it was drizzling and overcast.

And now I can't find anything on the NYT frontpage because the font is so tiny.

horizontal rule
50

The one upside to New York having the world's worst weather

Oh, please.

horizontal rule
51

We are witnessing the decline and fall of the Times New Roman empire.

horizontal rule
52

Also, I think susceptibility can change with age. At least, I burn more easily than I did when I was a kid.

horizontal rule
53

Or the ozone layer has disappeared. (oh, probably not, but indulge my paranoia.)

horizontal rule
54

Or maybe air quality is getting better.

horizontal rule
55

re: 51

Are you disputing that New York has the world's worst weather or that there is only one upside to this fact?

Sure, there is slight exaggeration here; I have visited a lot of places, and I have seen worse weather (the DMZ in Korea in the winter--so cold the diesel fuel in our trucks froze--and summer in Saudi Arabia--the worst day actually was in early fall when it was 99 degrees and foggy). That said, taken as a whole and looking at the entire year--the weather in New York sucks!

horizontal rule
56

The gaps in ozone layer are occuring, so far in the Southern Hemisphere. But by analogy to Franklin's elegant soap-drop-in-calm-water experiment, where he was able to approximate Avogadro's number, it should start at least thinning, and maybe breaking up elsewhere. Maybe the hole on the 40th parallel will be named after you.

horizontal rule
57

the weather in New York sucks!

Yesterday was lovely, and there's almost always a very nice week or two in late September or early October. So I don't know what you're talking about.

horizontal rule
58

re: 58

Thank you for making my point. Actually, I would say that the nice part of fall can last over a month, and fall in New York can be wonderful.

horizontal rule
59

I'm disputing that NYC has the worst weather in the world, and even if it did, there would be more than one upside.

horizontal rule
60

fall in New York can be wonderful

Why does it seem so inviting?

horizontal rule
61

Are we measuring worst by intensity of bad weather or by infrequency of good weather?

horizontal rule
62

61:

Personally, I like New York in June. How about you?

horizontal rule
63

There's nothing like old Memphis in June.

horizontal rule
64

New York has an amazing brainwashing ability that reminds me of what they say about childbirth (how you immediately forget how awful it was once it's over or you'd never go through it again). Every time it's windy and bitter during the winter and I'm sloshing through six inches of slush, all I can think about is how if I just get through it, I'll have a lovely New York summer to enjoy, with picnics in the park and such. Then summer rolls around and you remember that it's hot and sticky and disgusting and picnics in the park are far outnumbered by sweaty mornings stuck between stations in a 100 degree subway car and all you can think of is if you just get through the unbearable summer you'll have a beautiful New York winter where everything is covered in a lovely layer of white snow and the holiday decorations are up and...

horizontal rule
65

Why does it seem so inviting?

Many reasons, best explained here

horizontal rule
66

The only song I know of about the weather in the current Weinerville.

Maybe I should go for my hometown.

horizontal rule
67

Hell, I got sunburned in February. My tribe is not meant to be outside in the sun, ever.

horizontal rule