Re: Ix-naying key words

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That first link went straight to my organization's Net Nanny. Apparently some words are so bad that we cant even read them.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:05 PM
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The Tennessee senate passed a bill saying that you can't utter "gay" or "homosexual" in public schools.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:08 PM
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I am tired of reading about stupid Republican tricks. Detailing their atrocitries and imbecilities in the hope they will be shamed or ostracized has never worked, has done absolutely no good whatsoever in the fifty years I have been watching politics.

My response to this:"Just fucking kill them all."


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:08 PM
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I think the Gay Senate should outlaw utterance of the word "Tennessee."


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:10 PM
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I have no illusions that I have ever posted anything that made a Republican feel shamed or ostracized.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:11 PM
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Possibly ostracized, actually, if they tried to get along here.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:12 PM
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The Tennessee Senate says no robbing the rainbow.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:25 PM
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Are they still allowed to teach about Bob Corker?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:31 PM
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"Bob Corker" is the unofficial workaround now that teachers can no longer mention cob-borkers.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:33 PM
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God, is there anything not to like about George Takei?

20 years, guys. 20 years and these people will be irrelevant, except as an embarrassing reminder for certain political parties.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:35 PM
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And with one stroke of the pen, all that unpleasantness was resolved forever for old people in Tennessee.

This presumably will make it hard to teach about "Frank Sinatra Has a Cold", Hiroshima, The Beggar's Opera, or the underappreciated Revolution War hero Jonathan "Mad Jack" Homosexuality, but the good people of the Tennessee Senate probably think all those topics are totally gay.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:38 PM
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10.1:Takei is about the only celebrity I have ever met, around 1980 at a SF convention. He was beautiful, his posture was arresting.

10.2:If homophobia is the only thing you worry about, yes, I suspect you will have much relief. But as you might know, I believe that, largely because of Republicans, very few of us may be around.

You could be wrong of course. The Scopes trial was considered a joke and that problem assumed to be laughed away.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:43 PM
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This opens whole new avenues for stroppy kids to cause trouble. Mentioning the homosexuality of historical figures puts teachers in a bind, questions about it in biology class do also. The overloaded nature of the word 'gay' is rich with opportunities for abuse, too. The Tennessee state government just did more to undermine respect for authority among their youth than any thousand anarcho-commie-hippie-queers you could name.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 12:47 PM
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11.2: Not to mention "Deck the Halls". Gay apparel? Heaven forbid.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:07 PM
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"questions about it in biology class do also"

Surely biology classes aren't long for this world.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:24 PM
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10.1: Some of the later Star Trek movies, maybe? I stopped watching after the one with the whale.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:27 PM
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15: Good point. I am not going to check but if TN is one of the states that has evolution disclaimers in high school bio I would not be surprised.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:32 PM
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I am enjobbed! I start this summer, and may spend a few weeks in Europe (most likely ECSC members) beforehand.

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:40 PM
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18:Congratulations

Kotsko also has a tenure-track position (see And Fur in Sich)

I like people getting jobs, even academics.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 1:54 PM
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I also met Takei at a sci-fi convention in 1980. I was 12. He signed my Enterprise photo.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 2:03 PM
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It's not an academic job.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 2:08 PM
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10 - On the plus side, George Takei cast the deciding vote to create the Los Angeles subway system. On the minus side, Heroes wasn't very good. Life is full of contradictions!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 2:09 PM
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12, 20: Starbase Baltimore?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 2:09 PM
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George Takei cast the deciding vote to create the Los Angeles subway system.

Yes, he was almost a city councilman (a big deal, elected position in LA). But the subway system he voted to construct was for the most part eventually torpedoed by liberal lion Henry Waxman, so we're still waiting here 30 years later for it to get built.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 2:21 PM
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Be it resolved, "teh gay" shall henceforth be referred to as "the love that is prohibited by state law from speaking its name."


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 3:45 PM
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20 years, guys. 20 years and these people will be irrelevant, except as an embarrassing reminder for certain political parties.

I wish I thought that were so, but I'm beginning to get the sneaking suspicion that their views live on in younger generations.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 4:05 PM
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23: Possibly. I don't remember a drive all the way to Baltimore, though. I bet it was somewhere in DC.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 4:49 PM
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So, do you think that a teacher would get in trouble for talking about the gay 90's or gay Paris?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 5:05 PM
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It depends on whether the teacher says "par-ee" or "pair-iss".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 5:11 PM
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par-ee or pa-ree? Hmm.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 5:11 PM
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28: I'm not saying he didn't have his outside interests, but he did start a whole war over me and I'm am penis-free.


Posted by: Opinionated Helen of Troy | Link to this comment | 04-25-11 5:15 PM
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Relatedly, I was unhappily surprised this morning while listening to a radio story about the Prop 8 supporters' claim that Judge Walker had a conflict of interest not because he's gay but because he's in a long-term relationship.

The unhappy surprise was that I thought: Hmm, maybe they have a point. Not that they're not evil, disingenuous douchebags who would argue that the ruling should be overturned because it was made on a Tuesday if they thought they had a shot, but . . .

What if Loving v. Virginia had been heard by a judge in an interracial marriage? Isn't there an argument that the judge had a direct, material stake in the outcome of the case? If the marriage was held to be legal, the judge would have gain all of the financial and legal benefits (and, admittedly, liabilities) of being married.

I did make several points to myself in response, but I'm wondering what y'all would say.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 11:44 AM
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Also, George Takei is awesome.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 11:45 AM
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the Prop 8 supporters' claim that Judge Walker had a conflict of interest not because he's gay but because he's in a long-term relationship

If the Prop 8 supporters were even the least bit honest about believing gay marriage to be a threat to traditional marriage, then anybody in a long-term opposite-sex relationship would have a conflict of interest as well. However, they aren't the least bit honest.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 11:54 AM
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Neither single nor married, gay nor straight people should decide this issue. Only legally-separated bisexuals should judge.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 11:54 AM
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Where are the asexual judges?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 12:00 PM
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34: That's one of the points I considered, but suppose we change the fact pattern slightly (c'mon, this is what lawyers do for fun): What if the Prop 8 argument wasn't that it's a threat to straight marriages but simply that it's immoral?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 12:00 PM
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I think the deal is that on civil rights issues, you can make an argument like that that applies to anyone. Should female judges not be allowed to hear cases under the Civil Rights Act? Black judges be kept from cases under the Fourteenth Amendment? Male or white judges? What if the judge were a conservative Catholic -- would you suspect him of divided loyalties between the requirements of his religion and of the law?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 12:15 PM
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Then they wouldn't have a legal leg to stand on, since accordance with the Constitution is the measuring stick. The same people who funded the Prop 8 campaign also think alcohol and caffeine are immoral.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 12:20 PM
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39: and tobacco!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 12:34 PM
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39: So what about a judge who owns a coffee company?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:10 PM
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(In case it's not abundantly obvious, I'm just musing about all this. I don't think for a minute that Walker should have recused himself.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:11 PM
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41: She would certainly have to recuse herself from any and all latte-gation. (No. Really. It's fine. I can see myself out.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:19 PM
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So what about a judge who owns a coffee company?

Totally gay.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:38 PM
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I like my judges like my coffee, free of taint.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:39 PM
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What if the judge were a conservative Catholic -- would you suspect him of divided loyalties between the requirements of his religion and of the law?

Yes.


Posted by: John Locke | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:41 PM
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I think coffee on your taint would be way worse than taint in your coffee. I mean, not that I want either one.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:42 PM
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47.1: Research opportunity!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:46 PM
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coffee on your taint would be way worse

The best part of waking up is Folger's in your butt.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:47 PM
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OT: Did anyone else see the story about the Afghan prison break, and involuntarily picture Steve McQueen in one of those pakul hats?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-26-11 1:56 PM
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I think the deal is that on civil rights issues, you can make an argument like that that applies to anyone. Should female judges not be allowed to hear cases under the Civil Rights Act?

Or indeed male judges - who, after all, would have to compete with female judges for jobs.

50: pakuls are what the Northern Alliance would wear; Terry wears turbans.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04-27-11 7:02 AM
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