Re: What is the last name of the protagonist of the video game Silent Hill 3?

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I'd have thought the fact that its name was Zeta would be a bit of a hint.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 4:59 PM
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The protagonist of Silent Hill 3?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:01 PM
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Or the human anus?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:01 PM
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Oh ho ho, Ginger. You think you have the easy answer, do you? What say you on the anus question? Huh? Huh? This blog's reputation is at stake, and heebie is trying to help.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:03 PM
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I had to go check out the entry for "anus", to see what solution they landed on. They split the difference, which is what I expected. I'm not sure how you get over 2,000 edits to reach that result, though. Were people being overly choosy with respect to the particular images used?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:26 PM
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Oh, Margaret Atwood:

My Twitter friends were not only sportive but helpful, informing me about Twitpic, letting me in on the secrets of acronyms such as "LMAO," analyzing the etymology and deep symbolic meaning of "squee," and teaching me to make many an emoticon, such as the vampire face, represented thus: >:>} (Though other vampire-face options are available.) They led me to extra-Twitter adventures: a live chat on DeviantArt, a website where I found the cover for my book, In Other Worlds: SF and the Human Imagination. To this day I rely on my Twitter followers for arcane information, most recently some updates on the vernacular speech of the young. Who knew that "sick" is the new "awesome," and that "epic" is the rightful substitute for "amazing?" Twitter knew.

I guess "arcane" has a new meaning now too.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:28 PM
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Should article use an image of a human anus?

Yes.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:28 PM
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Who knew that "sick" is the new "awesome," and that "epic" is the rightful substitute for "amazing?" Twitter knew.

Also anybody who watches television. But Twitter!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:30 PM
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She's Margaret Atwood. She's allowed. Anyway, you know how Canadians are: one of them told me a few years ago that he'd never heard of Jon Stewart.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:34 PM
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Freddie Mercury!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:40 PM
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I was pretty sure 7 was a link to goatse.cx, but it was an entirely different type of anus.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:53 PM
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10: Your point?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:53 PM
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12: He was a Parsi man.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 5:59 PM
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I was pretty sure 7 was a link to goatse.cx

Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:10 PM
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I was expecting yet a different picture for 7.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:12 PM
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No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you sir; but I bite my thumb, sir.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:12 PM
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13: That's a can of worms you're opening, essear.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:12 PM
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15: A bushy mosaic, perhaps?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:14 PM
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I knew Planned Parenthood was persistent, but I imagined they might have it within themselves to avoid sending appeals to people who had donated a mere week prior. I suppose that would feel too much like giving up.

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:20 PM
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17: Oh, I know. It's a can of worms I like to sample again from time to time.

DeLong really should have referred to your comment threads in his post. Some of them are spectacular examples of the magic that a hands-off approach can produce.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:22 PM
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17: Huh. I don't know what that has to do with Margaret Atwood, but okay.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:23 PM
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Further to 17: The terms Parsi and Persian are the same more or less? Parsi is effectively Farsi? Huh. My mind is blown.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:29 PM
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I can't believe none of you philistines is interested in the question of Limp Bizkit's proper genre placement. Soon the sands of time will obliterate all the other subjects of these edit wars, but the majestic edifice that is Limp Bizkit shall stand, undaunted, through the millenia!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:31 PM
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As a result of 12 and 13, the handle "Parsimon" will from now on in my mind read as "Parsi man" spoken in a Jamaican accent.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:35 PM
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Here's the big wikipedia page on the topic.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:36 PM
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Zweckmäßigkeit ja, Botox nein!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:38 PM
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17 is amazing! I am agog. Will get over it soon.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:39 PM
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That link is making my head spin.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:44 PM
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The page in 25 is great. I've only read the first description (regarding Chopin) but whoever wrote it up did an excellent job:

Was Chopin Polish, French, Polish-French, or French-Polish? For years, there has been a low level (and at times high intensity) conflict about which country can claim Chopin as its son. Or was it Szopen? The observer learns a lot about the Napoleonic code, about the nuances of "citizenship," "nationality," and "ethnicity." Students of law can argue the finer points of jus sanguinis and jus soli. … Can you emigrate from a country of which you are not a citizen? Can you receive citizenship if you already have it? The possibilities for intensive study are endless. … Even Chopin's remains are divided. The body rests in Paris, the heart in Warsaw.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:44 PM
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Everything you need to know about the difference between me and nosefaucet lies in 28-29.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:45 PM
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I am delighted that the entire page is written in that style.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:49 PM
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Whereas, it's not that it doesn't also delight me, but I skimmed the page and gave up after five minutes.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:51 PM
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Should a tropical cyclone that formed on December 30, 2005 and lasted until January 6, 2006 (Tropical Storm Zeta) be placed in the 2006 Atlantic hurricane season article? The debate eventually explores the terms of hurricane season, how long it lasts, why hurricane followers are so tied to the concept of a hurricane season, and even whether a stapler moved from one desk to another is considered to be on the other desk. It was a truly stunning debate that spanned seven months, drew comparisons to civil unions and gay marriage, and could restart at any moment.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:55 PM
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That is pretty great. Look, Neb, you spanned our gulf!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 6:58 PM
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even whether a stapler moved from one desk to another is considered to be on the other desk

I can't make out how this is relevant. Much less what the hell it means.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:04 PM
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Suppose a stapler is on desk A, and it is moved to desk B. Is it still considered to be on desk A?

It is relevant, presumably, because of a putative analogy: suppose a hurricane starts off in the 2005 hurricane season, but then (owing to its endurance and the passage of time) ends up in 2006. Is it still part of the 2005 hurricane season?

The fact that that is a crappy analogy doesn't make what is intended any less obvious.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:07 PM
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Oh. That is one crappy analogy. The worst.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:12 PM
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Thank god we don't allow its kind here.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:41 PM
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I thought WikiPedia had its own style guide... but given some of the lameness, it seems that this is a curious sort of style guide that doesn't resolve disputes between American and British English (like "Alumin(i)um," "is/are a band," "flavored/flavoured" and "grey/gray squirrel")? One of the whole reasons style guides were adopted in the first place was to circumvent petty-but-intractable disputes like that.

I can kind of understand how some of the other lame edit wars happened, though. I love the "Tiger" one: I can imagine the dispute being essentially over which species of cat would win in a fight.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:43 PM
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38: Well, no shit.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 7:49 PM
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I thought WikiPedia had its own style guide... but given some of the lameness, it seems that this is a curious sort of style guide that doesn't resolve disputes between American and British English (like "Alumin(i)um," "is/are a band," "flavored/flavoured" and "grey/gray squirrel")? One of the whole reasons style guides were adopted in the first place was to circumvent petty-but-intractable disputes like that.

The rule is not to change the variety being used, unless the topic is especially connected to one nation. For elements, they seem to use the IUPAC's preference.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:01 PM
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Let this be a lesson to us all, in any event. Not that we would ever engage in such lame wars, but it's good to be aware.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:04 PM
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So Wikipedia ends having a debate about whether some guy is really famous enough to have an entry. You'd think the guy's internet savvy friends would weigh in. But no, it's just like the poor soul who had the party to which no one came.


Posted by: CC | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:06 PM
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29: I should see if I can get teraz kurwa my and Jackmormon to fight over whether Jan Potocki's Manuscrit trouvé à Saragosse counts as Polish literature.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:11 PM
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Clearly a whimper, then. Glad that's one controversey settled, at least.


Posted by: heebie-heebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:12 PM
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45 to 43.


Posted by: heebie-heebie | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:12 PM
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39: One of the whole reasons style guides were adopted in the first place was to circumvent petty-but-intractable disputes like that.

And here I thought it was to keep the idiots on the copy desk from totally destroying people's articles with their stupid edits.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:15 PM
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Is Jewbury a Jewish name?


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:22 PM
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If you're referring to Jack Jewsbury of the Portland Timbers, then no.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:36 PM
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That prompted the question, but it's the name I was interested in. It just sounds so incongruous? I guess it just refers to jute or something and isn't interesting at all.


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:42 PM
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There are no Jews and Berries here.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:42 PM
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Jack Jewsbury attended the Kickapoo High School, located in the Kickapoo Prairie in Springfield.


Posted by: David The Unfogged Commenter | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:45 PM
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From 'Dewsbury' in Yorkshire.


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 8:48 PM
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44: Maybe not.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 9:56 PM
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I think the link in 54 was supposed to go here.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 10:00 PM
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And now I'm back to the addictive Flash game I commented about a couple years ago. Dammit.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-12-12 10:10 PM
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47: Same thing.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 03-13-12 12:40 AM
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My favorite so far from the list:

Harry Chappas
Listed at 5'3", admits to being taller. Is he really 5'5"? Or 5'6"? Is an uncited claim valid for the latter? Sockpuppeting follows over a matter of one inch.

Sockpuppeting seems like a multiplier in lameness of Internet arguments. A thousand-comment thread that stays on topic about something trivial isn't nearly as bad as a 500-comment thread that stays on topic about something trivial in which someone sockpuppets.

And I find I'm cruelly misled by the lame edit wars list, because when I go to the page I find that his height is actually part of why he's famous. (Well, allegedly.) So it actually is relevant. Not worth a long argument and sockpuppetry over, but technically, barely, relevant.

Wait, no, I take that back, this is my favorite so far:

Exclusive or
Clearly this article should be named exclusive or. Google hits and a majority of editors confirm the popular name. But wait! This is mob rule! Mathematicians know the real name is exclusive disjunction! Discussion subheadings during this move war include "Are you kidding me?" and "Everyone is laughing at you".


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 03-13-12 6:17 AM
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