Re: Cleveland Kidnapping

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I thought this was a decent companion to the Charles Ramsey thing.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:22 AM
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Man, am I glad not to see any of my Other Place friends making fun of Charles Ramsey. The world would be a better place if more people were willing to do what he did.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:28 AM
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I get confused. I know many people here are from Cleveland, but does anybody still live there?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:30 AM
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Rfts and I live right outside Cleveland; Oudemia and Helpy-Chalk live further out in the metro area.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:33 AM
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That's what I thought, but I didn't trust me memory.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:34 AM
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None of us are from Cleveland, though! Rootless cosmopolitans, all.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:39 AM
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1: Are people mostly making fun of him? Everything I've seen about him has been straightforwardly praising him. The guy did a genuinely good thing, and seems thoughtful and humble; I love that he told the 911 dispatcher (and I'm probably slightly misquoting) "The girl's been kidnapped, put yourself in her shoes" when asked some inane question about what kind of help to send.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:40 AM
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I'm not from where I live either.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:40 AM
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The guy did a genuinely good thing, and seems thoughtful and humble

Yes! He really seems like an extraordinarily good guy.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:43 AM
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The police seem a bit ... incurious. Or is it just the recession-induced cuts?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:46 AM
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I haven't seen fun poked at him, but there's this air of gleeful enjoyment of his shtick... like Boingboing's "The interview he gave to local news after the rescue is a thing of beauty. Beauty and lulz."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:49 AM
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6: Molly is from Akron, which is why she is so wholesome.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:50 AM
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NPR has been running with the "no one in the neighborhood knew" angle on the story, when in fact there were at least three calls from the neighborhood of reports of women being led around naked in the backyard on leashes.

It looks like the cops handled this as badly as the disappearances of women in the Anthony Sowell case. I think they are more interested in sending out 100 cars on a high speed chase, firing 137 shots and killing two unarmed people, than they are in actually solving crimes.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:51 AM
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Akron smells like a burning tire.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:52 AM
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Or did 15 years ago. Maybe somebody fixed it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:53 AM
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13: The cops are probably lying, but they say no such calls came. I know that when something happened to me on the street in Rogers Park (not a big deal, I was fine), all my neighbors said they called the cops and others told people about how they had physically rescued me and shit. (No and no.) So while I'm not at all inclined to believe the cops about, well, anything, I don't necessarily believe each and every one of the ex post facto neighbor saviors.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:55 AM
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Wow, I thought RFTS and SO had moved to California three years ago.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:04 AM
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14: The hear that the stuff inside the rubber center of the world is poisonous.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:07 AM
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17: The first thing you know, RFTS's a millionaire. They said, 'California is the place you out to be,' so they loaded up the truck and the moved to Beverly. Hills that is.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:09 AM
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15: De-industrialization had mostly already fixed it as of fifteen years ago. Probably even more "fixed" now.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:09 AM
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This story was on my mind today when I had to carry my mostly limp 21 year old daughter to the car.

It truly is amazing how isolated one's life can be in the middle of a neighborhood.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:11 AM
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will, do you go out of your way to get to know your neighbors for that reason? I definitely did since I knew we'd be conspicuous.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:12 AM
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12: Somewhere I think I understood that Molly went to the same high school that I did. Which goes some way to explaining my fucking wholesomeness.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:13 AM
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Wow, I thought RFTS and SO had moved to California three years ago.

We did. Then I got a tenure-track job and we moved back.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:14 AM
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23: EXACTLY. Stormcrow is the ur-Wholesomeness.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:16 AM
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A variation on the recently proposed Von Waferian Bargain.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:17 AM
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26 -> 24


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:18 AM
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Bleg: Can someone point me to the recent thread where advice was given about neighborhoods to live in Oakland and surrounding? For reasons. Premature reasons, but one feels a need to proactively research.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:32 AM
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Here.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:35 AM
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The cops are probably lying, but they say no such calls came. I know that when something happened to me on the street in Rogers Park (not a big deal, I was fine), all my neighbors said they called the cops and others told people about how they had physically rescued me and shit. (No and no.) So while I'm not at all inclined to believe the cops about, well, anything, I don't necessarily believe each and every one of the ex post facto neighbor saviors.

Exactly. People are huge liars. The other possibility is that whoever ran the history on the calls about the house only ran that address and are missing the calls. It's pretty common to have calls about a house initially show the callers address because people don't have their neighbor's addresses memorized. So the call will pop up on your screen with a certain address but the text will say something like "two houses north of, loud party with tubas" or whatever.(totally not made up, I work an area with a lot of Mexicans)


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:42 AM
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My most recent call to the cops was about a large party with tubas.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:43 AM
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Who would complain about tubas?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:44 AM
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Well. Asked and answered.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:44 AM
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I was not aware there was a whole internet debate about the appropriateness of finding the rescuer funny, but my partner and I were watching TV last night and that Anderson Cooper interview with Ramsay came on, and we totally cracked up. He's a sharp guy but he really is funny.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:50 AM
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I there is a list, I also would complain about a loud party with tubas.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:50 AM
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I type poor today.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:51 AM
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"You got to have cojones, bro...cojones, that's what it's all about on this planet". Great guy.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:52 AM
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Other than being able to dot the 'i', I don't see why anybody would play a tuba.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 11:59 AM
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Other than being able to dot the 'i', I don't see why anybody would play a tuba.

I played the tube from 4th grade up through my senior year. My jr. high teacher went to Michigan and he'd march the band over to various teacher's classrooms to play the Michigan fight song on the appropriate games. We had a math teacher who went to Ohio and he'd have me and the other tuba do that bow the Ohio tuba guys do after the song when we went to her class. It was fun.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:07 PM
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It's important to remember that Ohio isn't all horrific kidnapping and murder stories. There's also college football and Skyline chili.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:10 PM
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31/32: Halford is truly history's greatest monster.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:13 PM
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41 was me, of course.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:13 PM
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Probably not the right place but-- if you hate people so much, then become a hermit. I honestly can't imagine how someone can be so broken to do this.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:15 PM
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Skyline chili is disgusting, ketchup with extra sugar and cinnamon.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:16 PM
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43 to 44.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:17 PM
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I played the tube from 4th grade up through my senior year.

That's starting young.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:18 PM
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I was thinking 43 to All the Mineshaft.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:18 PM
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Yeah, I make my own chili. I grudgingly trust other people to grow the anchos and raise the cows. I haven't actually spoken to another human being recently.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:20 PM
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I was thinking 43 to All the Mineshaft.

Not a bad mouseover, but then, I also liked yesterday's "I haven't time to quash blogcrushes, I have 1100 + 400 fucking pages of Randall Collins to read."


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:24 PM
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46: Damnit.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:25 PM
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The 911 system is a series of tubas.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 12:49 PM
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I would call the cops on someone playing the tuba. It's an emergency situation. Get that person a proper sousaphone, stat!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 1:13 PM
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Or an opheicleide.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 1:17 PM
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It seems true in equal measure that Charles Ramsay gives a hilariously awesome interview as it does that the reception of said interview "raised interesting and important questions about our willingness to turn people of color into memes rather than heroes."


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 1:29 PM
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46: Great, start 'em young.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 1:44 PM
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Yeah, my first thought about the interview was that I bet he'll wish he'd gotten to the barber more recently. Real salt-of-the-earth though, it can't be denied.

The only loud parties that ever disturb me feature a lot of oompah music. It's a bit disheartening that a lot of the guys younger than me seem to be into it, so it's probably not going away any time soon. Thankfully, we are just out of earshot of the official Cinco de Mayo celebrations, which feature like 32 bands, so that's something.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 1:46 PM
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Did people watch the Anderson Cooper interview? Mostly the same story except at the end Ramsay says if he'd known the three guys were sexually abusing the women he'd have "been serving triple life."


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 2:16 PM
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He was also asked about collecting on a reward and he said, shit, give it to the women who've been tortured for 10 years- I've already got a paycheck (at which point he pulls his most recent paycheck out of his pocket.)


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 2:18 PM
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58: A modern Cincinnatus.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 2:36 PM
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A modern Cincinnatus

Clevelandus?


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:04 PM
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There's something a bit unsavory to me about the air of "isn't he a character?!" He seems like a funny guy and a mensch but people seem to be clamoring for overnight celebrity.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:09 PM
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We had Cincinnati-style chili where I grew up so I have a nostalgic feeling about it but yeah, the stuff is kind of vile.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:16 PM
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It's appalling how rarely we see people talking on television other than people whose job is to talk on television. Usually news shows are even hosted by people who got a four-year college degree in the discipline of talking on television.

When the voice of someone who seems like the common man is heard, people don't know what to do with it. The laugh is as much from awkwardness as anything else. It's like the HOLY CRAP A WOMAN WHO HAS NOT SPENT MANY YEARS AS A BEAUTY PAGEANT CONTESTANT IS ON MY TV SCREEN phenomenon.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:46 PM
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63 -- have you even watched a television set in the past 20 or so years?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:50 PM
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I mean people who are unscripted and not debasing themselves.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:54 PM
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Many people don't even own a television.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 3:55 PM
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OK, I'll back up. Specifically in terms of being interviewed, when a normal person is interviewed, and saying something other than cliches, it ALWAYS seems awkward. I feel like this is because the interviews are always hurried and if they talk normally it just will not be used. So the only people who can successfully be interviewed and be taken seriously are basically professional spokespeople.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 4:00 PM
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Semi-topical in re 28/29: Jordan steps down as police chief. (If this is the job you're hoping for, Chopper, sorry to out you...)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 4:00 PM
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Television. Interesting!


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 4:05 PM
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63,64:Last Psychiatrist on the short and long cons in Mamet, the Dove ad, and television

After reading the TLP and 63 in succession, I would say something about why does tv want you to think there are no "people like me" on tv while simultaneously making every effort to give you comfortable images of "people like me." I mean Hoss and Little Joe and that girl weren't martians or supercowpokes (or Cary Grant and Ingrid Bergman) they were aw shucks folks just a lil bit better and you can be too if you buy Dove Soap.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 4:05 PM
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63.1 Usually news shows are even hosted by people who got a four-year college degree in the discipline of talking on television.

What does that mean?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 5:55 PM
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66: I live in a zero antenna household! There are 5 million of us across this land. We grow stronger every day.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:14 PM
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Continuing bleg: Isn't there supposed to be a great site that lets you look at a map and see the rental properties in the area? I thought it was all the rage a few years ago, but the crack may have addled my brain.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:15 PM
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Yes, it's padmapper.com. For a while they removed all of the listings from Craigslist, but I think they may have brought some of them back.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:21 PM
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63, 67: On plain old nightly network news coverage of various regional catastrophes or disturbances, you get a lot of interviews of regular neighborhood people who look pretty downtrodden. Their testimony doesn't sound hilarious to anyone because they're talking about their house being destroyed or whatever.

Add me to the list of people who didn't know Charles Ramsey was being slotted in the 'hilarious' category.

Maybe the difference is that Ramsey is the hero rather than the victim here, so people (what people? really I didn't know this meme existed) feel free to make obnoxious editorial comments.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:26 PM
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28/73: Hit me up if you need help! As you can see from the other thread, I have opinions.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:43 PM
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Completely OT: say you wanted to turn a series of emails from someone, say your Dad, into a nice-looking book. Say also that you've looked at Memeoirs.com and it doesn't seem to work because the emails are not on a supported webmail site. How would you go about doing so?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:46 PM
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77: Craigslist or elance or one of those "I'm Larry & this is my brother Darryl & this is my other brother Darryl and we'll do anything for a dollar" websites.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:56 PM
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Two Darryls, a Larry, and a cup?


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 6:58 PM
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78: Etsy?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:08 PM
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Back on topic, The Smoking Gun has linked to Ramsey's criminal record -- he did time on domestic abuse charges. It is both true that The Smoking Gun is assholes and that it this adds a dimension to Ramsey saying he thought he was breaking up a domestic violence situation.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:08 PM
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If people haven't seen the Anderson Cooper interview with Charles Ramsey, which is not a studio interview, but done in someone's yard somewhere, it's here.

Pretty interesting. Like 7 minutes long.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:13 PM
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Depends how many emails there are, how much you want to spend, how many copies you need, and how much you care about bindings etc. Presumably you need some way of formatting the emails to look "nice", then some way to print them off, and then a way to bind it.

(None of those steps are super difficult, and I guess the hardest one is the formatting -- there should be a local jobbing printer / bindery that will do the last two.)


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:15 PM
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81: I don't see the relevance. Why on earth is Ramsey being put through the third degree here?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:16 PM
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I mean, the way I'd do it, if I was doing it myself, would be to design a layout for the emails + front matter of the book, shove the emails into that, then buy some "nice" paper and print (probably just using an office printer) the material onto that paper. The binding's the tricky bit, I think --- I've got access to a glue binder, but that'll only do soft cover. If I wanted hardcover, then I think I'd have to get someone to do that properly.

Dunno if this is particularly helpful.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:21 PM
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Document production task, right? Here's one commercial link, I have no firsthand experience:
http://blogs.adobe.com/acrolaw/2011/11/batch-printing-an-email-portfolio/


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:31 PM
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I'm not really sure how to design a layout or to shove the emails into that. I guess I could cut and paste into a word document and then play around with that, but that seems super laborious and unlikel to produce a nice looking document. There are around 300 emails.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:31 PM
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If your dad pissed off the RIAA or the FBI or something, they will collect and bind the email for you.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:34 PM
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I can't even bring myself to make the How a Caveman Would Do It joke, because I think it's a cool idea. Goddamn you, Halford.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:35 PM
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Really I was hoping that there was some nice easy Internet way to do this. Doesn't this seem like something there should be a nice easy Internet way to do?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:38 PM
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23: I couldn't find the conversation where we determined we went to the same high school, but I did find the thread where you mentioned you grew up near Edgerton Rd., which would mean not only same high school, but same elementary school. Rob thought he remembered that you were younger than I. I thought you were older. So you'll have to settle that one. I graduated in 1989.


Posted by: Molly | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:40 PM
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Can you upload the e-mails in question to one of the supported webmails?


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:42 PM
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Me.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:43 PM
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There is one nice internet way to do it, which is to find some starving graphic design student and give them some cash, I suspect.

This gets some of the way there, right?.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:46 PM
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91 -- He's older than me. Younger than God.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:49 PM
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92-- I don't think I can get the emails into a supported system -- it works with Gmail but just forwarding your emails to Gmail doesn't work (I tried). The web says you have to do something called create an IMAP of your other mail and then import all of that into Gmail, which I don't think I can do because of security systems on my work account, which is where the emails are.

94.2 -- that contains super confusing words like "LaTex"and "Perl" which in Halfordese mean "there be monsters."


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:52 PM
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Hmm I suspect getting the emails out of the work account is the crux, because every solution (other than just forwarding to gmail & thence to underpaid straving GD student for manual processing) probably relies on that.

Hmm. Not super helpful really, sorry.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 7:59 PM
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A lot of web designers are designers who also know computery stuff. Maybe one of them could help with the IMAPing.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 8:04 PM
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Deeply ironically, this is exactly the kind of thing the FSF bangs on about.


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 8:04 PM
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91: Yeah, per 95 I'm a fair bit older than you ('72). But evidently I present much younger to some people. I don't know that we actually discussed same HS but rather that I gleaned it from Rob maybe mentioning that you went to the same high school as someone of either the astronautical or musical persuasion. Or else it was when people posted Google satellite shots of their school--something like that. Edgerton was more of a general vicinity thing than within a few blocks. I was further northwest and went to the elementary school now named for the astronaut.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 8:09 PM
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I did work several summers at the pool at the country club right near there. And my folks are now at a nearby retirement community (right next door to WV Quine's childhood home).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 8:18 PM
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My totally unhelpful inclination is to say "use LaTeX". I'll teach you how if you let me bill lawyer-like hourly rates.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 8:54 PM
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What format are the emails in right now? Outlook?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 9:14 PM
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103 -- yup.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 9:18 PM
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Does this not work?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 9:32 PM
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It won't do much for fancy layouts, but if you have Acrobat pro - which lots of offices seem to - you can almost certainly print directly to pdf. There's other ways to do that, but in my experience, Acrobat has the easiest to use integration. But I haven't printed from email, just from Word and from browsers.

There's other possibilities, depending on what Outlook will let you export. I might take a look tomorrow because I'm just that curious. There might be a way to eventually end up with epub. I don't know anything about the print production side, though.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 9:44 PM
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The annoying thing is that as far as I know Microsoft doesn't support an open email format, so it's harder to build tools to do this.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 9:55 PM
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96.2: Oh come on! Just untar the download on your nix machine and read the manpages!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:03 PM
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if you have Acrobat pro - which lots of offices seem to - you can almost certainly print directly to pdf

If you have a Mac, you don't even need Acrobat.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05- 8-13 10:19 PM
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but if you have Acrobat pro - which lots of offices seem to - you can almost certainly print directly to pdf.

And if you don't you can download the free version of Cutepdf or one of the many other similar utilities out there, and then print directly to pdf.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 1:30 AM
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I can't remember what formats Outlook will export to. It's generally shitty in all possible ways. But if the server it is talking to is a standard IMAP server or similar, there are ways to get the emails out. There also tools that will let you read the data in Outlook .pst files.

http://www.codetwo.com/freeware/outlook-export/

might work?

If I was doing something like this at work, I'd first look for some open source tool that'd let me do it, and if not, I'd use the python IMAP libraries to just hoover out the contents of the server. Then I'd use LaTeX [and possibly some sort of crude/lazy Python text munging] to generate a nice looking PDF from the data. Maybe an hour or two of work.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 1:39 AM
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The only parties that ever disturb me feature a lot of oompah music

The oompah music, the chanting, the amplified speeches, the tank tracks... I know the kind of Party Natilo's talking about here.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 1:58 AM
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On Topic: Apparently two of the Castro brothers aren't being charged with anything related to the kidnapping. Also, it seems oudemia was right when she doubted the naked-leash story. It sounds like the victims don't confirm it.


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No takebacks Moby, I'm already outraged.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:46 AM
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Thorn:

I do.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 10:59 AM
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101: My google skills have failed. I do not think anyone's anonymity would be compromised if you just go ahead and tell me the location of Quine's childhood home. Apparently Quine was born about seven years before my grandfather, who grew up to be ... big surprise ... a machinist for Goodyear.


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116: Quine lived on Orchard Rd. right off of Market alongside Rockynol where my folks now reside. I recalled that from his autobiography; this site mentions he had lived earlier in his life on Hawthorne St.

And non-shockingly we share the Wingfoot Clan--my father was a chemical engineer there.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:17 PM
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96.2: Oh come on! Just untar the download on your nix machine and read the manpages!

You know why they call them "manpages", Halford? Because they're the pages for real men, manly men.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:39 PM
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And there's nothing more manly than untarring -- you have to rip the tar off with your bare hands.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:41 PM
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Yeah, that Outlook Export program at 111 looks like it should perform the crucial first step of getting all the emails into a text file, that a starving GD student could then make pretty.


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You know why they call them "manpages", Halford? Because they're the pages for real men, manly men.

Also for caricatures of feminists.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:51 PM
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I miss the days of 2005 when I didn't get that joke at all.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:56 PM
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I forgot to check what I can do with outlook today. Turns out this job requires work.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:58 PM
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Chopper, "ennui body want a peanut?" is great.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 7:58 PM
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Wow, the days of 2005 were different.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05- 9-13 8:03 PM
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Maybe it's because I'm on windows, but I downloaded and untarred that email printing thing and from the file list it looks like you have to compile something just to read the manpages. The readme seems to confirm this.


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115:
Thorn:
I do.

Wilt thou love, honour, cherish and... sorry, turned over two pages at once.


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BTW, Halford, if you're too lazy to find someone who's actually qualified to do your email-to-book project, I'll do it. Because I'm not actually familiar with any of the tools involved, it'd take me much longer than the 1-2 hours it'd take ttaM, but then, I'd only charge, I dunno, $20/hr capped at $150?

Honestly you should probably find someone more qualified, who would probably also be cheaper because faster, but again, if you're too lazy, I'm offering (since I should be more familiar with automated text-processing stuff anyway).


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05-10-13 11:54 AM
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