Re: Guest Post: In The Room (WHCD)

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Sigh. Just an ongoing cluster of omnifucking clusters.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:01 AM
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Did not watch the WHCA in full but liked this sequence:

Colin Jost: "Wordle is here! Sorry, I mean the New York Times. I forgot they do stuff in addition to puzzles."
NYT: "On This Saturday Night, Colin Jost's Jokes Fell Flat
The White House Correspondents' Association dinner has occasionally featured some great stand-up comedy. This "S.N.L." veteran's set will not join that list."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:10 AM
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That's funny. I love the idea that the NYT feels genuinely degraded by their smash hit games section.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:17 AM
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A more annoying part of the NYT article:

People tend to overestimate the power of jokes from comedians and underestimate them from politicians. Both Trump and former President Barack Obama forged bonds with their voters through their senses of humor. Biden is not as funny as his two predecessors, but his joking asides have a loose, towel-snapping warmth that is a key part of his appeal.

It is actually a good overall observation, but I chafe at the "not as funny" bit. Sure if, mocking disabled reporters is funny or commenting on HRC's ass is, or on and on. But he does indeed bond with many of his supporters through a shared sense of "humor."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:19 AM
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I'm still boycotting Wordle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:19 AM
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Biden doing Howard Stern while stiffing the Times is [insert chef's kiss].


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:22 AM
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... President Barack Obama forged bonds with their voters through their senses of humor

I thought this interview with Jon Lovett about writing jokes for Obama (and the nature of politicians' humor) was quite good. I recommend it.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:29 AM
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Giving an award at the WHCD to Barak Ravid when over a hundred Palestinian journalists have been murdered in Gaza is morally depraved. Nuke it from orbit.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 8:52 AM
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Some people really seem to think Trump is funny. I don't see it.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 9:31 AM
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He's only funny when he's needling other deplorables in the Republican primary. (And even then I'm not going to actually watch him call Jeb! low-energy or whatever.)


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 10:44 AM
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I I listened to Ezra Klein interview John Ganz, and they agreed that liberals are just being ridiculous when they refuse to admit that Trump is funny. But my coworker was just giving me a hard time because I didn't laugh at a viral Elmo video she sent me, so maybe I just don't have a sense of humor.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 11:04 AM
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I hate the guy more than most will ever know but he is funny af


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 11:12 AM
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That you people really love your guns thing, I mean come on that is funny


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 11:13 AM
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The ghost colony in my head is exploding in population this year/decade. (Tender-hearted readers can skip this one. That means you, lourdes.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 11:39 AM
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I haven't watched video of him in ages, so he may not have it anymore, but he had good comic timing. I don't think he ever said anything that would have been witty or clever written down, but his delivery was funny.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 12:42 PM
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15: That is true. And I should qualify my feelings as not finding the content of his humor to be funny, but he does have the show biz mechanisms of delivery and timing down. Similarly Andrew Dice Clay was "funny" for some definitions of that term. With Trump it is like watching the 7th grade bully delivering "funny" insults to any and all non-cool kids. and with laughing acolytes and toadies. What irks me about the Ezra's* and Ganz's banging on about "liberals not getting it" is that we all (or many at least) fucking GET IT. Been dealing with this fucking shit since grade school, just did not appreciate that so many would seek it in a country's leader (or at least ignore it).

*Never really liked the dude, but he has become the parody of an "even the liberal Ezra Klein" centrist pundit in recent years. At least to me. Maybe it's me. My terminal old man bitterness, let me show it to you.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 2:45 PM
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Ezra was always kind of like that, but it shows more now that he's in a role that enables it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 2:58 PM
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The version of the Biden toast I know is, "May those that love us love us, and those that don't, may God turn their hearts. And if He doesn't turn their hearts, may he turn their ankles, so we'll know them by their limping."


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 3:13 PM
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Elmo is pretty funny. That bit with Zoe and Rocco just kills me every time.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05- 1-24 9:27 PM
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18: my god, your president appears to be a souvenir dishtowel.


Posted by: Ajay | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 2:55 AM
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It's a step up.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 5:12 AM
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19: Are they singing "Don't Rock the Boat"?


Posted by: heebie | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 5:39 AM
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ezra is gonna ezra, think he was born to be a perennially in his own mind 45 yr old centrist liberal pundit, like pretty sure if you met him when he was 8 he would have been essentially already there. ganz's comments if i recall correctly were in the context of his liking of gangster movies and enjoying that kind of macho thrill, jp describes well how that just isn't enjoyable for some people so while you can see the skill the frisson is lacking.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 7:18 AM
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16: I imagine a lot of media figures were uncool nerds in high school and are thrilled that now they can cosplay as cool bullies on X and the like.


Posted by: Psychoceramicist | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 8:43 AM
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*Never really liked the dude, but he has become the parody of an "even the liberal Ezra Klein" centrist pundit in recent years.

I did once really like his work, and thought he was a particularly sharp media critic. I bet somewhere out there is an incisive critique of anodyne pundits offering banal observations about serious issues -- written by Ezra Klein about journalists like Ezra Klein.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 3:26 PM
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Tangentially related to federal policymakers -- here's a gift link to NY Times very short video clips of 12 resigning Congresspeople reflecting on their experiences. (There are subtitles.)

Even correcting for irritating NYT bias, they're still interesting.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 7:59 PM
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I'm still boycotting Wordle.

I've been wondering what had brought the app to its knees!


Posted by: simulated annealing | Link to this comment | 05- 2-24 9:43 PM
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