Re: I'll pace YOU!

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We have got to do this, exquisite corpse-style. I'll start:

"Dear Jonah,

"As an unemployed single father of three, who lost his job and his wife due to political correctness run amok, Liberal Fascism has been a comfort during the Dhimmicrats' pantomime primary season...."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:07 AM
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Funny stuff - but it also shows how hard Goldberg is to lampoon. I don't think I would have batted an eye had I seen that e-mail. Next to the book itself, that e-mail isn't all that immature and/or stupid.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:08 AM
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I read the email on the LF blog first, and was like...huh? I'm a slow reader? But then a lot of people who email him are genuinely weird, so I thought it was just another example.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:09 AM
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Has Goldberg taken the letter down?


Posted by: Wry Cooter | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:10 AM
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No.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:13 AM
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One easy way to answer the question in 4 is to click on the second link in the post.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:20 AM
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You already sent me to Volokh once this week. I won't be fooled again!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:24 AM
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Next you'll be telling people to read the posts and shit.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:24 AM
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Yeah, I also didn't see any reason not to publish the letter.

Does anyone from anyone's real life care about this book? No one in mine has mentioned it. Which is good for the most part, but you know, people in real life need stupid shit to make fun of too.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:30 AM
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My copy of Liberal Fascism should be arriving any day now!


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:33 AM
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10 how strange
why you condemn the book and buy it, how is it different from endorsing
if i don't like a book i would not denounce it, but wouldn't buy
and the fake fan letter also seems not right to me
as if you bring yourself down to your opponents level whom you so much despise


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:46 AM
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Yeah, Sifu, you fuck.


Posted by: Armsmasher | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:48 AM
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You fuckin' fuck!


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:51 AM
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Let me put it this way: the people in Swarthmore's Education Program wouldn't have known about it if I hadn't told them, and when I told them, they were amused for about 1.5 seconds and promptly forgot about it afterwards. Which tells you something about how much the book matters: if you have a blurb on the back that calls someone a fascist and they're not only not angry, they barely care or notice, it doesn't bode well for how much your book matters.


Posted by: Timothy Burke | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:54 AM
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OMG, hilarious. So, so hilarious. I heart d.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 9:56 AM
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Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:00 AM
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Mouseover Sifu's link, people. He's turned into a full-time book shill lately, so it shouldn't be hard to guess which book he means....


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:00 AM
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it doesn't bode well for how much your book matters

... to the Swarthmore Education Program.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:04 AM
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Yeah, I have to admit, I feel a shiver of fear when I look at the bestseller lists.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:04 AM
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Elsewhere on the LF blog: "I attended a special White House briefing for conservative journalists by WH Chief of Staff, Josh Bolten."

Replace "conservative" with "liberal" and watch the heads of the entire Fox newsroom explode.

Am I naive to think that no other White House would have a "special" briefing for reporters of a particular political stripe? (At least not one that was billed that way.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:06 AM
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19: I feel better when I remember that you can get on the NYT bestseller list by selling only 5,000-10,000 copies a week.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:07 AM
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only 5,000-10,000 copies a week

That's not an "only." That's like an excellent annual sale for many books.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:09 AM
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i swear i'll never ask questions from Beefo Meaty again


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:11 AM
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22: I know, which is depressing in a whole 'nother way. But being #3 on the NYT list always sounded to me like ZOMG! Millions of people are buying this book!


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:12 AM
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23 is exactly right.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:14 AM
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23: he can't be trusted.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:16 AM
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Does anyone from anyone's real life care about this book?

My sister saw Goldberg being interviewed on the Daily Show. She was telling me about it later and I had to explain who he was.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:33 AM
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I didn't want to complain about it at LGM, because I don't have strong feelings about it, but this doesn't seem like a proper way to treat someone, even someone who supports evil policies.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:35 AM
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20: I would like a President who had an activist agenda to have special briefings for activist press. For one thing, it would suggest that the "liberal media" and the "mainstream media" were, in fact, two different groups.


Posted by: Wrongshore | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:39 AM
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WD, don't be a wuss. Yes, it's mean. But it's also (1) funny and (2) kind of deserved.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:42 AM
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Wait, prank emails are off limits, now? I mean, this is surely a bit of harmless fun if there ever was one.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:44 AM
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Oh, I laughed. It's too bad my moral and comic sensibilities aren't more closely aligned.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:44 AM
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It's really just so pathetic.... was that the best praise mail he had received?


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:46 AM
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3: FL regularly reads the Liberal Fascism blog?


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:53 AM
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Cala, there was also this, from a reader email...

Also the book has provided me with airtight rationale to start boozing again -perhaps the greatest service any human being could perform. William James influenced the fascist movements of the last century. He was also had a strong impact on Bill Wilson and the pioneers of Alcoholics Anonymous. Therefore AA (could have been a New Deal agency) is fascist. I can't very well belong to a group like that. Bottoms Up,

Is there a line between sincerity and parody?


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:53 AM
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this doesn't seem like a proper way to treat someone, even someone who supports evil policies.

Really? I can't think of a more harmless way to make a point. Out of curiosity--is it the picking on morons that bothers you or something else?


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:54 AM
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And the link.


Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:54 AM
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35: Really? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 10:56 AM
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35: I wouldn't have thought Bush would have read it so quickly.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:01 AM
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Jonah also says, on the blog that exists solely to promote LF: "I have no obligation to call attention to unadulterated asininity."

That's Jonah -- going far beyond his obligations, just for little ole us.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:01 AM
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It's not sending the prank emails but rather the mocking him for believing the email is actually from a reader that bothers me. But I'm not sure the two are conceptually distinct.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:25 AM
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washerdreyer I have word from Jonah himself that he's totally okay with people mocking him however they want, and that he actually finds it pretty funny, since truth be told he is possibiliy the laziest, dumbest beneficiary of nepotism since at least George W. Bush. So, not to worry.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:30 AM
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If we're looking for internet hijinks to fight about, how about online privacy vs. protecting women from really nasty harassment?


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:39 AM
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Sifu, plz provide ISBN # of teh book you sale. Thx.


Posted by: Robust McManlyPants | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:41 AM
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McManlyPants needs you to do it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:42 AM
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the mocking him for believing the email is actually from a reader

How about mocking him, not for believing the email is real, but for believing it consitutes an endorsement of his book that's worth advertising?


Posted by: bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:42 AM
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14: as often, I totally disagree. "Ignore them and they'll go away, they're beneath us" has been tried for 20-25 years, and it hasn't worked.

None of those people -- Coulter, Goldberg, Malkin, Horowitz, Limbaugh, Beck, Savage, O'Reilly -- may have any interest to us or worthy of any respect, but they're influential. They get on TV, and even if people who buy their books don't really read the books, their prejudices are reinforced.

Goldberg may encounter certain problems, but not because he's too stupid to bother with. On the one hand, it may be that the right wing is at the end of its run, and that Goldberg will go down with the rest of them. On the other hand, his book is too difficult for the easy-reading conservatives, and too stupid for the conservatives who think of themselves as scholarly and intelligent.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:44 AM
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I can get behind that.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:44 AM
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How about mocking him for being a complete tool?


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:47 AM
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49->46

JE has the gist of it in 47 though. There are some people, particularly in media these days who have influence all out of proportion to any talent or expertise they may possess. It's their positioning that is a problem, not their execrable screeds per se.


Posted by: soup biscuit | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 11:51 AM
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He was also had a strong impact on Bill Wilson and the pioneers of Alcoholics Anonymous. Therefore AA (could have been a New Deal agency) is fascist.

Awesomely, Bill Wilson and AA are a demonstration of why America didn't need the New Deal in this best-selling right-wing book.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 12:25 PM
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Am I naive to think that no other White House would have a "special" briefing for reporters of a particular political stripe? (At least not one that was billed that way.)

Harry Reid's office put together a thing with "progressive media" yesterday. Nancy Pelosi has spoken several times to an insidious cabal of liberal journalists who convene off-the-record breakfast meetings with noteworthy individuals. I would imagine a smart Obama or Clinton administration would, in fact, organize special events designed to reach out to progressive media.


Posted by: Wehttam Saiselgy | Link to this comment | 01-29-08 3:23 PM
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