Man, the first time I ever had sex (in the Clintonian sense), I though I should smell really good, so I finally cracked open the scented products I'm always getting for Xmas and never using, which that year included a bunch of Victoria's Secret vanilla stuff. I thought it would be mild, so I went a little crazy with lotion and power and spray, and I realized when I was done that my own odor was making me a little ill. The boy in question told me it wasn't a problem, but I didn't believe him.
I agree, Tia. Too much vanilla is definitely a bad thing. Back before the smoking ban, I came home from a concert late one night reeking of cigarette (and other) smoke. It was about 2 AM, I was drunk, and I knew I had to be up in four hours for work, so I didn't want to take a shower because I was afraid that would just wake me up and I wouldn't be able to get any sleep that night to sober up. I had the "great idea at the time" to spray myself all over with a heavy dose of a vanilla-ish perfume to cover up the smoke smell so I could get to sleep (planning to shower in the morning). Yeah, that worked out great. I almost lost my dinner from the intermingled odors. I finally gave up and took a shower.
I think it's pretty charming how Mr. B brags about his domestic abilities. On the subway home from the meetup, he practically demanded to sew my pockets.
Oh, reading this thread is making me ill. I have a very sensitive sense of smell, and can't stand sweet perfumy smells -- being in the same room as a scented candle makes me terribly unhappy. That and flavored coffee. Actual perfume is usually okay, but the sweet ones sometimes set off the same need to lose my lunch. (I think it's something in the perfumes, rather than just the smell -- i.e., the actual smell of flowers or vanilla don't bother me at all, but a scented candle trying to smell like flowers or vanilla revolts me.)
And baking is vitally important. I do far less than my fair share of housework, and cover for myself with the occasional batch of cookies or loaf of bread. Making the house smell good on weekends is key for appear to fulfill one's domestic responsibilities.
I think Ogged's date was wearing a new, very nice, prefume, which was unfortunate, because when he was pulled over, the trooper smelled it, which resulted in a sex act between the trooper and Ogged's date.
woman--unfortunate new perfume--sex act--trooper--never again.
My best friend was in a similar situation with a woman while parked in a car in a parking lot. Police officer knocked on the window, had them get out in their partially undressed state, and asked for their licenses and registration (it was her car).
He looked over all the documents, and then started laughing uncontrollably. Turns out he noticed that the names on my friend's license and on the registration didn't match up, since the car was registered to the woman's husband, and figured out that my friend was not her husband. He let them go without giving them a ticket, so the husband remained unaware of the whole situation.
Hmmph. I wanted to respond to 13 by linking to BPhD's post about Mr. B's claimed ability to tell, by a woman's smell, whether her period was imminent -- but I couldn't find the damned thing.
36: I dunno. Maybe, but I couldn't find it with numerous strange Google searches (with keywords like bitchphd, Mr. B, period, menstrual, premenstrual, cooch, copper, metallic, etc.).
Sorry, B. My apologies (for that, among other things). I don't know why that's creepier than all the incredibly obscure things from comments here that people remember (which amaze me, even though I pride myself on having a great memory).
Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.
(Trying to change the subject, if that wasn't obvious before.) The somewhat surreal story involved, as I recall, a young woman who threw dinner parties in which the other female guests had spit cups for their food, as in wine tastings.
I don't think I remember what liver tastes like, B. I remember it being nasty when I was a kid, but my mom is a terrible cook and besides, I hated lots of things when I was a kid that are teh yum, so no, I'm sorry, I won't be able to.
Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.
B, again, I'm sorry. If you don't want me to ever link to anything on your blog, I won't. And I wasn't talking about your vagina, although you do so fairly frequently. "Cooch," as best I recall regarding your post in question, was a word you used in reference to Mr. B's olfactory abilities, i.e. to detect odors emanating from other women's premenstrual "cooches." I am happy to respect your boundaries, and Ogged's, if I can figure them out.
I disclaim and disavow any purported attempt to objectify Dr. B or any part of her. I was trying to objectify your nose, Mr. B, but I have desisted in that endeavor as well.
JHTC, per acronymfinder.com: Jewish High Tech Community. Mr. B is saying that we're all part of the Zionist conspiracy to objectify his wife. Why did you have to go there, Mr. B?
82 - I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red. 'Sides, I've not read enough here to know that anyone here is Jewish, least not that I recall.
4, 20: Looking back at the beginning of this thread, I am reminded of the guy who claimed that my private bits smelled so much like incense that he had started getting erections in church.
Tia's comment was indeed hilarious. I'm not particularly in the mood for acrimony, either, but being told to "curl up and die" rubbed me the wrong way. Go figure.
Yes, I at least used to have a stalker whom we affectionately labelled "The Troll of Sorrow." For a long time, he would show up in almost every thread I would participate in (except here) -- accusing me of being a pseudo-intellectual, of being too religious, of being a blasphemer, of reading atheist philosophers even though I was a Christian, of not knowing enough about the halting problem, of being a pedophile (because I'm going to a seminary, you know), of knowing nothing about reason or argument, of ignoring the trascendent genius of Quine.
It was weird. Sometimes he would go through these periods where it was like he was trying to reason with me, then he'd just get really really mad at me. Or he'd claim that he was going to leave me alone (having tired of me), but then comment again 30 seconds later.
So Ogged was actually pretty smart never to blogroll me, meaning that I never blogrolled him, meaning that the Troll never visited this page and discovered that I comment here regularly. Good job, Ogged.
136: Maybe they just really hated the movie, and your presence reminded them of it. Admittedly, the chronology of events cuts against this interpretation.
Adam Kotsko concealed the fact that the Troll of Sorry also called him a hich from Kalamazoo or Ypsilanti or whichever godforsaken town he's from. The Troll is a California sophisticate.
Has the Troll disappeared since it became illegal to annoy people anonymously (or pseudonymously) on the internet? Maybe. One guy has the Troll's ID nailed down, and maybe the fear of God have been put into him.
Wow, I had heard of disemvowelment from Wampum, but never knew about those other troll treatments until I read Holbo's post. Only the hardiest of trolls persists after being disemvoweled a few times.
For the uninitiated, disemvowelment would reduce the above paragraph to:
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"I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red."
Seemed like something out of one of his letters to, dammit, I can't remember her name, but they published a collection of their correspondence. Or in Big Sur, when he talks about going to the reading at City Lights.
He is also an anti-Semite, so he accused me of being a "Skokie hick," because apparently Skokie (a Chicago suburb) has a big Jewish population. I didn't know that people still used "Jew" as an insult. And the weird thing is, I'm not even Jewish.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
Because my brain is just one twisty maze of random hyperlinks, the word "charm" somehow retrieves this excerpt from my memory from a Television Without Pity recap of American Idol:
Next up to audition is a guy with the unlikely name of Charm, who says he has a "love of music". Nobody who loves music would treat it so badly. He wails and shrieks "The Greatest Love of All." Music runs away and seeks refuge at a shelter for domestic violence victims. Music gets counseling for a couple of weeks and a part-time job as a secretary at a dentist's office. Charm comes crawling back, promising that he's changed and swears that he won't abuse Music anymore, but Music knows better. Randy and Simon tell him he's awful. In the confessional, Charm whines that Simon and Randy were mean. He's going to blame the rejection all on Music later and use it as an excuse to abuse it some more: "Bitch! What did I tell you about making me look bad?" When is Music going to listen to its friends and get that restraining order?
I was just clarifying, because Emerson seems (shockingly) to have a part of the Troll of Sorrow mythos wrong -- the town he mentioned was not motivated by where I grew up (I've never even been to Skokie), but by his desire to accuse me of being a Jew.
He's going to blame the rejection all on Music later and use it as an excuse to abuse it some more: "Bitch! What did I tell you about making me look bad?"
I've been to Skokie many times, most recently to buy "The Year of Yes" at the Barnes & Noble there. Skokie used to be very heavily Jewish. Frank Collin and his band of neo-Nazi idiots (met by a much larger group of counter-demonstrators) marched there 20 years ago to upset the residents, a fair number of whom are WWII concentration camp survivors. I think Skokie's a lot more mixed these days.
If not malevolent, can you not see how it might not have played well? Sounded "off"? Have you got a tin ear, sir? At long last, have you got a tin ear?
I was going to suggest we make an acronym for "and that's not a euphemism" (atnae), but what we really need is a euphemism for "and that's not a euphemism".
XIXc euphemisms include donkey, rooster, white meat, dark meat, and limb for ass, cock, breast, thigh, and leg respectively. Of these, white meat probably would be the best substitute for euphemism. Dark meat would sound like a racial reference, whereas white meat sounds like white bread, and white bread people do use euphemism.
On the other hand, visit Mrs. Murphy is a euphemism for go to the toilet. So Mrs. Murphy could be used to mean euphemism, until an actual Mrs. Murphy shows up here.
This wouldn't be a euphemism though, it would be more like a kenning. Also, it would be strictly Gongoristic, though I would call it euphuistic.
Insert as needed to clarify sense and reference: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Why should I do all the work around here?
You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight. I am happy to see the conversation turn to shitting euphemisms (void the contract?).
You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight.
You and Ogged are wise. Sorry I didn't heed the counsel. Cool neologism -- gylanic. Never heard it before.
You know, reading old threads about comment bloat and such makes me feel guilty, because I never properly gleaned that one's Unfogged comments should be carefully cut jewels, and I've never particularly edited mine or concerned myself with whether they were really *that* funny; I'm usually satisfied to make a good-natured attempt at humor, and I guess I lucked out by sidling in just when the comment volume got so great that Wolfson just couldn't keep up with the deviations from standard grammar and usage anymore. It makes me feel like I've been trolling, in a very mild way, all this time.
also, wha? there was never any quality control on Unfogged threads. if you read the old 100-comment threads, about half the comments are about how we might get 100 comments if we all keep commenting.
"np" as we say! I wonder, though, if "truthiness" is really a neologism. After all, you've heard it before. Now, we don't want neologismity to be simply a matter of relative ignorance on the part of the listener, for many a person has not heard words with old and even impressive lineages. And yet, is there not some truth the the expression, "if I haven't heard it, it's new to me"? Neologisticalness is, I maintain strenuously, not simply a temporal affair!
We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis." Although the song is obviously absurd, perhaps one must take the risk of taking the song at its word. Are we not all constitutively those with a detachable penis? Do we not always wake up every morning to "find that it's missing again"? Is not the "detachable penis" the best example of Lacan's objet petit a, the object-cause of desire?
I always think of "inter alia" as synonymous with "among other things." I see Black's Law Dictionary defines it that way. So the first thing, if you will, is "because I've slept in the office the last two nights." Why is that wrong? Usually I see people write the thing(s) and then put "inter alia" after it/them, but is it wrong the way I did it? (I trust that you'll tell me that the short answer is "yes.")
Hey, "constitutively". I & others were recently advised that if we wanted a career or paper, we should look at some word or phrase that pops up a lot without ever really being explained; examples given were "in virtue of", "qua", and "constitutive".
Should your penis fall off, the logical thing would be to put it under your pillow at night as you go to sleep. No?
That depends whether you want it sewn it back on, in which case you should put it in ice and get to a surgeon ASAP (see "Bobbitt, John Wayne"), or whether you want the Penis Fairy to leave a dollar under your pillow. btw, Felicity Huffman used a detachable penis in "Transamerica."
"alia" is properly just "others"; it's the neuter plural so I suppose it could be read substantively as just "other things". But you could say: "I had many reasons; inter alia, I'm utterly nonresponsive to social signals"; here, "alia" would refer to "reasons".
I know my spelling of the word "missle" is controversial. And I invite debate. That's one of the things that's great about this country. But the American people can tell honest debate from defeatism and undermining.
kay wait. I have a rules of jinx question. Is it still possible to jinx the little bitch who shall not be named for 192-193. If so, jinx personal jinx 1-2-3 no takebacks!
No, you're not supposed to comment until I say your name. But now that you have, I get to punch you, that is, if it was a legitimate jinx in the first place. We need a panel to adjudicate.
Given the nature of the case, I don't think I should be held accountable for comments made while the legitimacy of the jinx is in doubt. After all, that would provide a way to silence people with grossly illegitimate jinxes, until a panel convenes and issues its decision.
My ass, which is authoritative in these matters, says that this jinxing fad is one of the dumbest things ever to hit Unfogged. Who the hell started this? What are we, twelve?
"Something smells good."
The standard answer to this when I was in high school was: "It's my erection. I can't believe you can smell it all the way over there."
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:03 PM
Would have been great if she'd said that.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:04 PM
That's awesome, apostropher.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:05 PM
Any woman who thinks she smells better than baked goods is delusional.
Posted by JRoth | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 12:57 PM
Which is why we use all of those vanilla-scented creams and lotions.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:01 PM
"vanilla-scented creams and lotions"
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:04 PM
4: Maybe not if she works in a bakery.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:05 PM
Man, the first time I ever had sex (in the Clintonian sense), I though I should smell really good, so I finally cracked open the scented products I'm always getting for Xmas and never using, which that year included a bunch of Victoria's Secret vanilla stuff. I thought it would be mild, so I went a little crazy with lotion and power and spray, and I realized when I was done that my own odor was making me a little ill. The boy in question told me it wasn't a problem, but I didn't believe him.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:38 PM
I don't much care for vanilla-scented perfumes. I don't want to smell like cookies. I want to eat the cookies.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:40 PM
I hope she didn't have a yeast problem or she would have been really mad at you.
Posted by SP | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:42 PM
I agree, Tia. Too much vanilla is definitely a bad thing. Back before the smoking ban, I came home from a concert late one night reeking of cigarette (and other) smoke. It was about 2 AM, I was drunk, and I knew I had to be up in four hours for work, so I didn't want to take a shower because I was afraid that would just wake me up and I wouldn't be able to get any sleep that night to sober up. I had the "great idea at the time" to spray myself all over with a heavy dose of a vanilla-ish perfume to cover up the smoke smell so I could get to sleep (planning to shower in the morning). Yeah, that worked out great. I almost lost my dinner from the intermingled odors. I finally gave up and took a shower.
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:49 PM
I don't think smell particularly tasty, but I can bake.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:51 PM
12 s/b I don't think I smell...
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:52 PM
I think it's pretty charming how Mr. B brags about his domestic abilities. On the subway home from the meetup, he practically demanded to sew my pockets.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:55 PM
Oh, reading this thread is making me ill. I have a very sensitive sense of smell, and can't stand sweet perfumy smells -- being in the same room as a scented candle makes me terribly unhappy. That and flavored coffee. Actual perfume is usually okay, but the sweet ones sometimes set off the same need to lose my lunch. (I think it's something in the perfumes, rather than just the smell -- i.e., the actual smell of flowers or vanilla don't bother me at all, but a scented candle trying to smell like flowers or vanilla revolts me.)
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:56 PM
he practically demanded to sew my pockets
That one probably was a euphemism.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:56 PM
so I went a little crazy with...power
A characteristic I've learned to watch out for.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:58 PM
And baking is vitally important. I do far less than my fair share of housework, and cover for myself with the occasional batch of cookies or loaf of bread. Making the house smell good on weekends is key for appear to fulfill one's domestic responsibilities.
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:58 PM
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Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:59 PM
I threw up once in church because of all the incense & the cloying perfume of the lady in front of me at some important Mass.
Posted by Cala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 1:59 PM
ogged--woman--unfortunate new perfume--sex act--trooper--never again.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:01 PM
You had to perform a sex act on a trooper because of her perfu--
Ogged, that story doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:02 PM
Ogged is Bill Clinton! Of course!
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:05 PM
Bill Clinton is Mexican?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:06 PM
He's light skinned.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:07 PM
12. A missed opportunity - we should have discussed baking at the meetup. Somehow, I think it would have gone well with the harry potter argument.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:15 PM
In 21 was ogged just listing recent search terms which have shown up in the referrer logs?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:15 PM
I think Ogged's date was wearing a new, very nice, prefume, which was unfortunate, because when he was pulled over, the trooper smelled it, which resulted in a sex act between the trooper and Ogged's date.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:21 PM
woman--unfortunate new perfume--sex act--trooper--never again.
My best friend was in a similar situation with a woman while parked in a car in a parking lot. Police officer knocked on the window, had them get out in their partially undressed state, and asked for their licenses and registration (it was her car).
He looked over all the documents, and then started laughing uncontrollably. Turns out he noticed that the names on my friend's license and on the registration didn't match up, since the car was registered to the woman's husband, and figured out that my friend was not her husband. He let them go without giving them a ticket, so the husband remained unaware of the whole situation.
My friend is a bit of a bastard, btw.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:26 PM
Don't say you weren't warned, ogged.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:28 PM
Shit.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:30 PM
31: That was the unfortunate new perfume?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:31 PM
It's French.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:32 PM
#12: You're baking? Yay!
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:38 PM
Hmmph. I wanted to respond to 13 by linking to BPhD's post about Mr. B's claimed ability to tell, by a woman's smell, whether her period was imminent -- but I couldn't find the damned thing.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:50 PM
35: Wasn't that in comments?
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 2:58 PM
36: I dunno. Maybe, but I couldn't find it with numerous strange Google searches (with keywords like bitchphd, Mr. B, period, menstrual, premenstrual, cooch, copper, metallic, etc.).
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:00 PM
Thanks, guys. I'm not at all creeped out now.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:05 PM
Sorry, B. My apologies (for that, among other things). I don't know why that's creepier than all the incredibly obscure things from comments here that people remember (which amaze me, even though I pride myself on having a great memory).
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:08 PM
I'm not at all creeped out now.
Oh, but you are. We can smell it on you.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:12 PM
A friend of mine wrote a great story called, "Cats Smell Fear".
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:16 PM
Oh, but you are. We can smell it on you.
Tit for tat, Clarice. Tit for tat.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:17 PM
Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:21 PM
You link to your blog every time you leave a comment, you know.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:23 PM
Hey, maybe I should eat my placenta with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:24 PM
(Trying to change the subject, if that wasn't obvious before.) The somewhat surreal story involved, as I recall, a young woman who threw dinner parties in which the other female guests had spit cups for their food, as in wine tastings.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:25 PM
#44. Yes, but I don't expect anyone to actually click over to the damn thing!
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:26 PM
Tia, if you eat your placenta, would you tell me if it tastes like liver?
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:27 PM
Anyway, despite that link, I think boundaries are good.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:27 PM
Apostropher, stop oppressing b.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:28 PM
I don't think I remember what liver tastes like, B. I remember it being nasty when I was a kid, but my mom is a terrible cook and besides, I hated lots of things when I was a kid that are teh yum, so no, I'm sorry, I won't be able to.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:30 PM
Boundaries are good, unless you put 'em in the wrong place
Posted by Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
I didn't mention anybody's vagina.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
Foie gras is pretty awesome, aside from the cruelty.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:31 PM
53: Au contraire.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:34 PM
Please, let's all talk as much as possible about my vagina and let's link to my blog as often as possible in the comments here. Because we all know that Bitch Ph.D. and Unfogged are officially linked blogs, by fiat of the primary authors of both. And that neither Ogged or I care at ALL about boundaries.
B, again, I'm sorry. If you don't want me to ever link to anything on your blog, I won't. And I wasn't talking about your vagina, although you do so fairly frequently. "Cooch," as best I recall regarding your post in question, was a word you used in reference to Mr. B's olfactory abilities, i.e. to detect odors emanating from other women's premenstrual "cooches." I am happy to respect your boundaries, and Ogged's, if I can figure them out.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:35 PM
55: You have a filthy mind, Tia.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:37 PM
Oh, Apostropher. You're my Unfogged blog boyfriend, you silly thing, you. Don't take everything so personally.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
54: But that's what makes it so delicious.
Posted by tom | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
Reviewing this thread (8,11,15), spit cups seem more relevant than I had thought.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:38 PM
Don't take everything so personally.
Who, me? I just wanted to say vagina.
Vagina vagina vagina.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:39 PM
You know what's hilarious? Vagenda.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:40 PM
You made me laugh, O., and for that I hate you.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:41 PM
Hate me, in a show-me-your-tits kind of way?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:43 PM
wtf?
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:48 PM
You're my Unfogged blog boyfriend
Wait, does this mean you have one at every blog?
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:49 PM
Stay out of this, mister.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:49 PM
wtf?
This may become your new handle.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:50 PM
"That's Mister wtf? to you, smartass."
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:51 PM
jhtc why don't you fellas stop objectifying my bitch. It's too cold.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:53 PM
Some of us want her for her mind and her body, Mr. B.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 3:57 PM
I disclaim and disavow any purported attempt to objectify Dr. B or any part of her. I was trying to objectify your nose, Mr. B, but I have desisted in that endeavor as well.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:00 PM
"jhtc"?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:01 PM
just here to cay?
Posted by LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:02 PM
Jesus hates the commies?
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:04 PM
72- You can go curl up and die. I'll joke with the rest, but not with you. And you know why.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:06 PM
Jewish High-Tech Community.
Which would make sense, except that w'ere all Mexican.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:06 PM
JHTC, per acronymfinder.com: Jewish High Tech Community. Mr. B is saying that we're all part of the Zionist conspiracy to objectify his wife. Why did you have to go there, Mr. B?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:09 PM
Uh oh. I'm coming home now, dear. And I expect cookies.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:09 PM
Dammit apo!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:10 PM
Sorry, clarification: Jesus H (holy) Tap-dancing Christ, as said by Jake Blues in a moment of revelation.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:10 PM
You can't expect a bunch of Jews to get a Jesus acronym, sweetie.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:11 PM
Dammit apo!
Can't touch this.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:13 PM
Madre de Dios!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:13 PM
Wait, he's standing in front of a black hole, he's wearing gold lame pants, and they pose him with a folding chair?
Posted by Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:17 PM
Plus they forgot to move the Coke can under the chair.
Someone tell me to go home, please.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:18 PM
82 - I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red. 'Sides, I've not read enough here to know that anyone here is Jewish, least not that I recall.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:18 PM
Jews and Arabs, the lot of 'em. Except for the Mexicans.
Thanks for defending my honor. Cookies?
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
Go home, bitch!
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
I can think of three off the top of my head. But I won't sabotage their attempts to pass as Mexican by outing them.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:21 PM
Thanks, Ben.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:22 PM
On the internet, no one knows you're not Mexican.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:22 PM
Except the Jews.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:23 PM
And the Gayatollah.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:24 PM
Gracias, apo.
Posted by ac | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 4:39 PM
Is it just me, or does 87 read like a Kerouac letter?
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:05 PM
Kerouac couldn't recall being friends with any Jews either?
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:09 PM
No, he was friends with Ginsberg. Fine, I'm crazy.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:13 PM
One can often also tell by taste, in addition to smell. That's to be expected, since the two senses are closely related.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:24 PM
99: Whether someone's Jewish?
Kobe!
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:26 PM
Jews taste funny?
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:26 PM
It's like we share a brain, B.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:27 PM
You, me and LB. Kind of like the Trinity.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:32 PM
The Trinity is Jewish. I can smell it.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:52 PM
Shouldn't 100 be "Wilt!" rather than "Kobe!"?
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 5:52 PM
Thanks for classing up the joint, 99.
Posted by Michael | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:00 PM
There's always one that goes too far.
Posted by Joe Drymala | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:25 PM
Adam Kotsko: Unfogged's Infamous Bad Boy
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 6:30 PM
That's what a theology degree will do for you.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:30 PM
It's always the Catholic girls who go bad.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:47 PM
I really hope this Mexican thing continues for years to come.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 7:57 PM
Boy, I'm half-Jewish, I have a slight moustache--I'm constantly in this indeterminate state between smells and polarities.
(You know, I like The Chalice and the Blade. It just goes to show one should not procrastinate.)
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:04 PM
Of course it will. The Mexicans can't be stopped, you know that.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:04 PM
Mexican is the new
gay! No, wait. That doesn't really solve the problem.Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:05 PM
Does "Brokeback" not work?
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:06 PM
The Mexicans are a problem?
Racist.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:06 PM
Uh, don't you mean "rascist"?
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:07 PM
Right, Raggy.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:08 PM
4, 20: Looking back at the beginning of this thread, I am reminded of the guy who claimed that my private bits smelled so much like incense that he had started getting erections in church.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:10 PM
72- You can go curl up and die. I'll joke with the rest, but not with you. And you know why.
I could respond in equally obnoxious fashion, but I'll forbear -- unless you really want me to.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:16 PM
On the one hand, an acrimonious flameout could be amusing. On the other, it could be unpleasant.
Hmm…
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:18 PM
Hey what's going on in here? I don't read the comments threads for a day and everybody gets all personal!
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:20 PM
A flameout in a thread called "More Lessons In Charm" would be a little too cute, I think. Maybe forbearance?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:22 PM
Without your irenic counsel, Jeremy, all hell breaks loose.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:22 PM
How you guys can talk about a flame war after Tia's last comment, I'll never understand.
Anyway, I'm not in the mood for acrimony.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:23 PM
Tia's comment was indeed hilarious. I'm not particularly in the mood for acrimony, either, but being told to "curl up and die" rubbed me the wrong way. Go figure.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:24 PM
F., It'd probably be best for all involved if you quietly went away.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:26 PM
Stop distracting ogged fro his thoughts of pretty green leaves, and the nice smell of colorful flowers.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:26 PM
Don't forget the rassling, laughing squirrels.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:27 PM
#119: Good thing he didn't throw up on your pew.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:28 PM
O, there's a difference between a flameout and a flamewar. The former are often amusing, the latter rarely.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:31 PM
This is kind of off-topic, but I was just reflecting how nice it was that none of my stalkers have ever followed me to Unfogged.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:32 PM
You have stalkers?
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:33 PM
Maybe not, Adam, but I followed you to The Weblog.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:33 PM
Next up: Ben sues Adam for calling him a stalker.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:36 PM
Same here. Ever since I demolished the analytic-synthetic distinction it's been "Fuck you, Willard" everywhere I go.
Posted by W.V.O. Quine | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:36 PM
Hey Willard, I gotcher desert landscape right here! *moons Quine*
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:38 PM
96- I do believe that that is the most flattering comparison ever lavished upon any thing I ever wrote. Thanks
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:39 PM
"Two Dogmas of Empiricism" is so not dispositive. Fricking Quine.
Posted by baa | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
Yes, I at least used to have a stalker whom we affectionately labelled "The Troll of Sorrow." For a long time, he would show up in almost every thread I would participate in (except here) -- accusing me of being a pseudo-intellectual, of being too religious, of being a blasphemer, of reading atheist philosophers even though I was a Christian, of not knowing enough about the halting problem, of being a pedophile (because I'm going to a seminary, you know), of knowing nothing about reason or argument, of ignoring the trascendent genius of Quine.
It was weird. Sometimes he would go through these periods where it was like he was trying to reason with me, then he'd just get really really mad at me. Or he'd claim that he was going to leave me alone (having tired of me), but then comment again 30 seconds later.
So Ogged was actually pretty smart never to blogroll me, meaning that I never blogrolled him, meaning that the Troll never visited this page and discovered that I comment here regularly. Good job, Ogged.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
Now this is a flamewar I'm up for.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:40 PM
You are a pseudo-intellectual blasphemer, Adam.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:42 PM
136: Maybe they just really hated the movie, and your presence reminded them of it. Admittedly, the chronology of events cuts against this interpretation.
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:43 PM
It was you this whole time! You bitch!
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
We are legion.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
For a long time, he would show up in almost every thread I would participate in (except here) . . .
meaning that the Troll never visited this page and discovered that I comment here regularly
The dude didn't have the smarts to Google "Adam Kotsko"? They don't make stalkers like they used to.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:44 PM
Yeah, now they're all just whiny passive-aggressive little shits.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:47 PM
Ah, ok, I had seen references to this "Troll of Sorrow", but had not understood the whole thing. That sounds incredibly annoying.
Posted by Matt F | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:54 PM
More here.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 8:56 PM
Adam Kotsko concealed the fact that the Troll of Sorry also called him a hich from Kalamazoo or Ypsilanti or whichever godforsaken town he's from. The Troll is a California sophisticate.
Has the Troll disappeared since it became illegal to annoy people anonymously (or pseudonymously) on the internet? Maybe. One guy has the Troll's ID nailed down, and maybe the fear of God have been put into him.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:02 PM
Wow, I had heard of disemvowelment from Wampum, but never knew about those other troll treatments until I read Holbo's post. Only the hardiest of trolls persists after being disemvoweled a few times.
For the uninitiated, disemvowelment would reduce the above paragraph to:
Ww, hd hrd f dsmvwlmnt frm Wmpm, bt nvr knw bt thse thr trll trtmnts ntl rd Hlb's pst. nly th hrdst f trlls prssts ftr bng dsmvwld fw tms.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:10 PM
138--I was serious:
"I don't, just hurried the commenting on account of angry, passionate, macho defense of your honor. 'was seeing red."
Seemed like something out of one of his letters to, dammit, I can't remember her name, but they published a collection of their correspondence. Or in Big Sur, when he talks about going to the reading at City Lights.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:48 PM
He is also an anti-Semite, so he accused me of being a "Skokie hick," because apparently Skokie (a Chicago suburb) has a big Jewish population. I didn't know that people still used "Jew" as an insult. And the weird thing is, I'm not even Jewish.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 9:59 PM
Subtle, Adam.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:03 PM
Because my brain is just one twisty maze of random hyperlinks, the word "charm" somehow retrieves this excerpt from my memory from a Television Without Pity recap of American Idol:
Posted by Becks | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:13 PM
So when we call your drunk posting charming, you take it as a reflection on your karaoke skills?
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:16 PM
Ben,
I was just clarifying, because Emerson seems (shockingly) to have a part of the Troll of Sorrow mythos wrong -- the town he mentioned was not motivated by where I grew up (I've never even been to Skokie), but by his desire to accuse me of being a Jew.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:41 PM
Kotsko the atheistic Jew seminarian. Makes sense.
He's going to blame the rejection all on Music later and use it as an excuse to abuse it some more: "Bitch! What did I tell you about making me look bad?"
Let's not drag her into this.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:45 PM
Frederick, DO NOT DO THIS.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:46 PM
I've been to Skokie many times, most recently to buy "The Year of Yes" at the Barnes & Noble there. Skokie used to be very heavily Jewish. Frank Collin and his band of neo-Nazi idiots (met by a much larger group of counter-demonstrators) marched there 20 years ago to upset the residents, a fair number of whom are WWII concentration camp survivors. I think Skokie's a lot more mixed these days.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:49 PM
159: it was an attempt at humor. I frankly don't see how it can interpreted in a malevolent way.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:52 PM
If not malevolent, can you not see how it might not have played well? Sounded "off"? Have you got a tin ear, sir? At long last, have you got a tin ear?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:54 PM
note to self: when we reach Emerald city, ask for replacement for tin ear.
Posted by Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 10:58 PM
Ok, not only are you guys going to stop, but I'm going to delete comments 163 and 165.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:03 PM
Great, I'm glad this worked out then. Best wishes!
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:03 PM
But now other comments are 163 and 165! Someone write me a Borges story.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:05 PM
apologies.
Posted by Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:06 PM
Wait, what was deleted?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:07 PM
Oh, Kotsko's comment and one I didn't get to read.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:08 PM
If I told you, ogged would have to delete it again. Have some pity on the dude.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:08 PM
What can I say? I'm an obsessive stalker following Bitch PhD around the Internet to defend her honor.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:13 PM
That's not a stalker... seems a bit more like a sidekick, no?
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:24 PM
Shhh. Adam's and my relationship is a seekrit. I don't want Apostropher to get jealous.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:26 PM
oh, it wasn't my 163 that was so offensive? Whew. I'll cop to dumb, but I didn't think there was a proscription on Oz references.
Posted by Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:27 PM
No, Michael, nothing you said.
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:28 PM
Ogged is really sensitive about his tin ear.
Posted by bitchphd | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:29 PM
Someone should create The Blog of Sand where no two comments ever have the same number and the numbers appear in no discernible sequence.
Posted by eb | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:30 PM
Thank you.
Posted by Michael H Schneider | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:31 PM
I once proposed labeling comments with random dictionary words.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:39 PM
I still haven't gotten the keys to the Bitchcave.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:40 PM
DIMPLE to HUGUENOT, obviously.
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:42 PM
180-
I was going to suggest we make an acronym for "and that's not a euphemism" (atnae), but what we really need is a euphemism for "and that's not a euphemism".
Posted by washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01-25-06 11:45 PM
XIXc euphemisms include donkey, rooster, white meat, dark meat, and limb for ass, cock, breast, thigh, and leg respectively. Of these, white meat probably would be the best substitute for euphemism. Dark meat would sound like a racial reference, whereas white meat sounds like white bread, and white bread people do use euphemism.
On the other hand, visit Mrs. Murphy is a euphemism for go to the toilet. So Mrs. Murphy could be used to mean euphemism, until an actual Mrs. Murphy shows up here.
This wouldn't be a euphemism though, it would be more like a kenning. Also, it would be strictly Gongoristic, though I would call it euphuistic.
Insert as needed to clarify sense and reference: """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Why should I do all the work around here?
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 4:38 AM
"Also, it would be strictly Gongoristic, though I wouldn't call it euphuistic. "
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 4:42 AM
We already have a perfectly good euphemism for going to the bathroom (shittings only): "legislate from the bench".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 6:57 AM
What about "vacate the premises"?
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:39 AM
I'm afraid I have to insist on "legislate from the bench". Sorry.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:42 AM
I agree with Ben Wolfson 110%. That's more than it's technically possible to agree with someone, so you can tell it's serious.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:47 AM
You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight. I am happy to see the conversation turn to shitting euphemisms (void the contract?).
Also, Fine. I'll do it.
I suppose this is just fear of death getting in the back door
Oh, is *that* what you're afraid is getting in the back door?
You people disgust me.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:51 AM
Wow, you're 26? That's pretty old. Maybe that's what "your private parts smell like incense" is a euphemism for.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:55 AM
Unfortunately for Cleveland, I've taken the browns to the superbowl many more times than they will ever go themselves.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:58 AM
Whatever, Kotsko. Aren't you 25?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:59 AM
I got that comment when I was 22, much closer to my prime. Aren't you 25? Just wait till next year when your penis falls off. What, no one told you?
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 7:59 AM
Once your penis falls off, that's when you start getting into some really freaky shit. At least that's what I've heard.
Yes, I'm 25.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:01 AM
It's like losing your baby teeth, though. A bigger one grows in.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:05 AM
keep telling yourself that ben.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:06 AM
It's the only thought that gets me through the day.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:07 AM
189: Why do you call yourself Shit girl? That doesn't seem to square with your foldy bits smelling like incense.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
You know, I'd like to second 125, and say that I tried to make this a joyous, gylanic thread about reverence and sex and funky smells, but y'all were driven by your dominator impulse to ignore me in favor of a fight.
You and Ogged are wise. Sorry I didn't heed the counsel. Cool neologism -- gylanic. Never heard it before.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
You know, reading old threads about comment bloat and such makes me feel guilty, because I never properly gleaned that one's Unfogged comments should be carefully cut jewels, and I've never particularly edited mine or concerned myself with whether they were really *that* funny; I'm usually satisfied to make a good-natured attempt at humor, and I guess I lucked out by sidling in just when the comment volume got so great that Wolfson just couldn't keep up with the deviations from standard grammar and usage anymore. It makes me feel like I've been trolling, in a very mild way, all this time.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:10 AM
Transgressive!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:11 AM
It is of the nature of neologisms that one has "never heard it before".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:11 AM
cut jewels... *shiver*
also, wha? there was never any quality control on Unfogged threads. if you read the old 100-comment threads, about half the comments are about how we might get 100 comments if we all keep commenting.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:13 AM
Chopper is the sexiest!
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:13 AM
When preparing to heed the call of nature, I like to simply announce "Beeeep, beeeeep, beeep..." much like a dump truck.
We're all class at my house.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
True. But surely there are neologisms ("truthiness," say), that I have managed to hear before.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
Anyway, Frederick, "wb" as we say here on the webbage! Good to see you and whatnot. Can I interest you in a hot brandy flip, perchance?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:14 AM
206 to 202.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:15 AM
204: Apostropher may be the hero, but Chopper is the sexiest! Schweeeet.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:15 AM
Thanks, ben. I could certainly use a drink, inter alia because I've slept in the office the last two nights.
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:17 AM
"np" as we say! I wonder, though, if "truthiness" is really a neologism. After all, you've heard it before. Now, we don't want neologismity to be simply a matter of relative ignorance on the part of the listener, for many a person has not heard words with old and even impressive lineages. And yet, is there not some truth the the expression, "if I haven't heard it, it's new to me"? Neologisticalness is, I maintain strenuously, not simply a temporal affair!
This is a difficult question.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:20 AM
Also, technically, you used "inter alia" incorrectly there. There's no referent for "alia".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:22 AM
Is it neologismity or neologisticalness? Make up your mind. (How about neologismicity?)
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
Should your penis fall off, the logical thing would be to put it under your pillow at night as you go to sleep. No?
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
Said, in passing to a commentator this morning:
"Something smells like, bad."
Said commentator looked at me like "Duh, we're all talking about shit."
"No, I think its actually you."
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:23 AM
"neologismity" and "neologisticalness" are both correct, highlighting as they do different aspects of neuwortlichkeit.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:24 AM
This reminds me of the song, Detachable Penis, by King Missle.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
too, many commas.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
215 its s/b it's red again...
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:25 AM
203: Thanks, I feel much better now. I guess I'm just fantasizing that a halcyon age existed just before I stepped into the scene.
So, like, Scarlett Johansson is teh hott!1!
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:26 AM
We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis." Although the song is obviously absurd, perhaps one must take the risk of taking the song at its word. Are we not all constitutively those with a detachable penis? Do we not always wake up every morning to "find that it's missing again"? Is not the "detachable penis" the best example of Lacan's objet petit a, the object-cause of desire?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:27 AM
I always think of "inter alia" as synonymous with "among other things." I see Black's Law Dictionary defines it that way. So the first thing, if you will, is "because I've slept in the office the last two nights." Why is that wrong? Usually I see people write the thing(s) and then put "inter alia" after it/them, but is it wrong the way I did it? (I trust that you'll tell me that the short answer is "yes.")
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:30 AM
Hey, "constitutively". I & others were recently advised that if we wanted a career or paper, we should look at some word or phrase that pops up a lot without ever really being explained; examples given were "in virtue of", "qua", and "constitutive".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:31 AM
Ben's too nice. Red. Red. Red. 's all red.
Posted by Mr. B | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:32 AM
Should your penis fall off, the logical thing would be to put it under your pillow at night as you go to sleep. No?
That depends whether you want it sewn it back on, in which case you should put it in ice and get to a surgeon ASAP (see "Bobbitt, John Wayne"), or whether you want the Penis Fairy to leave a dollar under your pillow. btw, Felicity Huffman used a detachable penis in "Transamerica."
Posted by Frederick | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:35 AM
Tia, I was raised not to make comments about odors in the personal area. The younger folk will have to make up their own excuses.
Posted by John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:36 AM
"alia" is properly just "others"; it's the neuter plural so I suppose it could be read substantively as just "other things". But you could say: "I had many reasons; inter alia, I'm utterly nonresponsive to social signals"; here, "alia" would refer to "reasons".
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:36 AM
We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis."
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:38 AM
Missile. Really, Ben. I expected better of you.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:40 AM
Follow the link, apostropher. I merely report—you decide.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:41 AM
Like so many other things, it's Kotsko's fault.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:41 AM
Ah. You did live up to my expectations. I apologize and will don this hairshirt.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:43 AM
We are all familiar, no doubt, with the infamous King Missle song "Detachable Penis."
Posted by Standpipe Bridgeplate | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:45 AM
...this hairshirt.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:45 AM
damn you apo! damn you!
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:46 AM
I know my spelling of the word "missle" is controversial. And I invite debate. That's one of the things that's great about this country. But the American people can tell honest debate from defeatism and undermining.
Posted by Adam Kotsko | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:46 AM
235: Not very neighborly, TD.
236: The terrorists have won.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:48 AM
237 to 236: this is true.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 8:52 AM
kay wait. I have a rules of jinx question. Is it still possible to jinx the little bitch who shall not be named for 192-193. If so, jinx personal jinx 1-2-3 no takebacks!
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:01 AM
To those who would jinx, I say: tempus fugit! Carpe diem!
Posted by Jeremy Osner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:03 AM
I can't even remember what being jinxed means. I owe you a coke, right?
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:05 AM
No, you're not supposed to comment until I say your name. But now that you have, I get to punch you, that is, if it was a legitimate jinx in the first place. We need a panel to adjudicate.
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:06 AM
Given the nature of the case, I don't think I should be held accountable for comments made while the legitimacy of the jinx is in doubt. After all, that would provide a way to silence people with grossly illegitimate jinxes, until a panel convenes and issues its decision.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:10 AM
Alright, you have a good point; I can't deprive you of liberty without due process. But who should do the adjudicating?
Posted by Tia | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:13 AM
My ass, which is authoritative in these matters, says that this jinxing fad is one of the dumbest things ever to hit Unfogged. Who the hell started this? What are we, twelve?
Posted by ogged | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:16 AM
Jinxing is stupid.
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:17 AM
You don't think that Tia has an inherent right to jinx, without all of the hassles of oversight? Do you want the terrorists to win, or something?
At the very least, Tia should be able to jinx so long as she applies to the adjudicating panel with 72 hours.
Posted by Matt #3 | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:17 AM
The jinxing fad arose naturally from the rejection of Weiner-pwning. Restore Weiner-pwning and all will be well.
Posted by Matt Weiner | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
Seven, ogged. We are seven, and we are legion.
Posted by tweedledopey | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
jinx personal jinx 1-2-3 no takebacks!
Posted by Chopper | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:18 AM
Wwning is an abortion and ogged is right about jinxing.
Posted by ben wolfson | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:20 AM
What are we, twelve?
No, Mexican.
Posted by apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-26-06 9:20 AM
See, I totally just jinxed ogged. Teh relative simultaneity of comments is insufficient for jinxing purposes.
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