Re: Yum!

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I know the answer. But this is too soon.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:11 PM
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1: RTFA


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:13 PM
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The Aristocrats!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:13 PM
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California Avocado Association


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:14 PM
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The SEC.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:14 PM
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I just saw a tweet about this.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:14 PM
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2,3: Sidebar/comment thread order reversal.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:14 PM
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The CDC.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:17 PM
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I believe the first time I encountered "clear as mud" was in A Wrinkle in Time. I found it discombobulating.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:17 PM
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If Winona Ryder is somehow involved, please provide more information.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:19 PM
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I get no love regarding the update to my crazy uncle's escapades in the Whitney Houston thread.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:20 PM
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The NYPD.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:20 PM
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Clear as mud?

Plain as day.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:20 PM
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The Russian Society for the Appreciation of Pogo and Butt Vodka.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:21 PM
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I guess my guesses are going to be automatic false ones. Dammit!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:25 PM
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14: It is a little early to just give away the answer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:25 PM
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16 would have been better if it were 15.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:26 PM
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Federal Reserve Board TARP allocation meetings.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:32 PM
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The Bingo Long Travelling Mercenaries and Torture Kings.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:34 PM
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The cast of The Fresh Beat Band.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:34 PM
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I've got loco legs.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:35 PM
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You've got children.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:36 PM
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The story I heard about this today included the first use of the word "buttcracks" I've ever heard on NPR.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:37 PM
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Is it a preview for tonight's Top Chef?


Posted by: bend | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:37 PM
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22: Just one, but that fucking promo is on constantly.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:38 PM
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The cast of The Fresh Beat Band.

Apparently, they had a great day and will rock it their way. I'm scared, apo.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:38 PM
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Stomp the House is notable for when Twist starts droppin' science in the middle.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:46 PM
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11: Jesus, BG. That is nuts.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:46 PM
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I think I know the answer.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:48 PM
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There is no spoon?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:49 PM
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Wait, you mean the answer to the question in the post.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:50 PM
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What post?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:51 PM
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There is no post.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:53 PM
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THE CHIMPEROR AND HIS VIRILE LACKEYS


Posted by: OPINIONATED GRANDMA | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:56 PM
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32, 33: Strong opinions on Corn Flakes?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:56 PM
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27: So I guess children's music is better than when I was wee (Hi, Raffi*!), but wow, so peppy. That girl mimicking playing drums does appear to be using natural sticking techniques (meaning, she's alternating hands in a way that's roughly how you'd do it), so that's something.

No correct answer yet, people!

*Actually, I was Raffi-protected, but I was aware.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:56 PM
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Stomping the yard was bad enough. The house? There's breakable stuff in there.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 8:58 PM
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Wasn't it some weird British civil service / regulatory / child care agency or something like that? I'd swear this is something dsquared posted about a year ago.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:02 PM
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Went and looked. Nope. Although there may have been another such incident that I'm confusing with this.


Posted by: water moccasin | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:04 PM
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Did you guys go and hold UnfoggeDCon III without telling me? Is that what the quote is about?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:04 PM
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After feeling like I was being bludgeoned with them (as MH says, the promos are on about every fifteen minutes on Noggin and nickelodeon), they've kinda earwormed themselves into my good graces

That girl mimicking playing drums

Her Wikipedia page says she turned down a scholarship to Berklee College of Music to go be an actress. She might actually be a drummer.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:05 PM
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Hey apo, I put something meaty in your inbox.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:05 PM
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It was the Catholic Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Really, look it up.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:07 PM
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41: I suppose they are better than Moose A. Moose as filler between Diego and Backyardigans.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:08 PM
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Yeah, I saw that, thanks. It arrived right at the beginning of my fantasy football draft.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:09 PM
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She might actually be a drummer.

I'd believe it. She was using the right sticking. I just don't think the sounds came from that plastic junk she was hitting.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:12 PM
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I loved the Frazetti contest entrys. We should do that among the Unfoggedetariat.

How's the Mustard Truck looking these days?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:13 PM
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43 is my favorite wrong answer so far. But it's still wrong.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:14 PM
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better than Moose A. Moose

Berries are the fruitiest
Shoes are the bootiest
Puppies are the cutiest
Treasure is the lootiest
Teams are the rootiest
Horns are the tootiest
EVERYWHERE I GO


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:14 PM
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23: Yeah, that was amusing. But later in the day they were playing recordings of wackos at town hall meetings, which would have been amusing in another context. It's bad when ya can't remember them talking points...


Posted by: DominEditrix | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:15 PM
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49: Does the "A" stand for acid?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:16 PM
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Those aren't the words to "Everywhere I Go".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:17 PM
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The drinking-vodka-from-the-buttcrack thing disturbs me. Ethanol is a solvent, people. Ick.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:18 PM
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47: Good feeling about this team.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:19 PM
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49: And the animation is of such high quality.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:20 PM
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By the way, Ramil Guliyev is the only white athlete among finalists of 200-meter race.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:20 PM
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I tried my best, but I just couldn't run any faster.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:22 PM
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53: At least it's antiseptic.

56: Azerbaijanis aren't white, they're Mexican.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:24 PM
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Ethanol is a solvent, people.

Oh god, I hadn't quite put that together. Ick is right.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:25 PM
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58.2: But, if the keep working hard, they might be promoted to Greek.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:26 PM
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58.2: You wouldn't believe how fast Freddy Mercury was.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:32 PM
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You don't often see a sentence like that in a news article. And by "a sentence like that" I mean a sentence starting with "By the way". Who's doing the copy editing at Today.Az anyway? This article is highly confusing.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:32 PM
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And I think the opposition party is showing its hand a little bit here. You can't announce a bloc before it's fully formed, man. A block's just gotta come together on its own. Don't rush things.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:34 PM
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-k


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:34 PM
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ack. 65 was me, an anonymous almost-exclusively lurker.

Um. I'm known IRL to at least, and I believe exactly, one semi-regular.


Posted by: pm | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:47 PM
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65: Well, crap. I deleted your comment out of haste. Re-post it? I was delete-happy.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:48 PM
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But... which one of us?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:48 PM
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I'm sure someone can even turn up a fruitbasket for you.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:49 PM
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The Bush DOJ?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:51 PM
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The C Street house?

This in response to 66 which was in response to 65 which was in response to the original 65 which was in response to this.


Posted by: pm | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 9:54 PM
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Don't tell me we've lost the fruit basket. I can't find it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:02 PM
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Look here.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:03 PM
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I believe the first time I encountered "clear as mud" was in A Wrinkle in Time. I found it discombobulating.

In a book about tesseracts and the physical manifestation of evil, "clear as mud" was the thing that threw you off?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:04 PM
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Can I ask a totally OT question about something that confuses me?

BBC headlines often include single quotation marks, like "Somali camps 'unfit for humans.'" I understand this to mean that some report has been done in which the phrase "unfit for humans" appears in relation to Somali camps. Fine.

Next is "Galaxy 'cannibalism' revealed." Here, "cannibalism" is scare-quoted because, you know, galaxies aren't animals consuming one of their own species. It's imagery. Fine.

Then: "Garrido's wife 'misses children.'" Maybe a quotation, but in context sounds unfortunately sarcastic? Oh, I "miss" my "children."

Then, consecutively, "Child obesity drug use 'soaring'" and "Downturn in US economy 'ending.'" Later, "Phones of Princes 'hacked into.'"

Am I the only American reader who finds this constant use of quotation marks confusing or a bit dulling to the idea of quotation marks? I always look in the article to see if it's a direct quotation from someone, but usually it's not, and not just when it's a scare quote.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:05 PM
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72:Oh thank god. Now, pm, just pick a pseud that won't bother LB and we're all golden.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:06 PM
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Or maybe it's all scare quotes and the BBC is easily frightened of words?


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:07 PM
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You know in Britain they use single quotation marks where we use double quotation marks, right?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:09 PM
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No one would ever say or write, I think, in this case, "Oh, you know Garrido's wife misses children." She misses *her* children. It's not a quotation.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:09 PM
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IOW, aside perhaps from "cannibalism", they're probably all quotations inserted into the headlines.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:09 PM
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74: I think the Beeb is more circumspect in announcing things like the end of an economic downturn than, say, the U.S. media, so they make it clear that they're quoting someone's opinion. I quite like it.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:10 PM
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78: quotations modified for headline style, perhaps.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:10 PM
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77: Of course. I'm asking what quotation marks are for when it's not a direct quotation or signaling a non-standard use of words.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:10 PM
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I read the misses children bit the same way nosflow did. Also, if you say it aloud in a fake British accent, it seems to fit better than misses her children.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:11 PM
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80: Yet they have the most dipshit science reports known to humankind. The headline might be circumspect, but the article itself often isn't.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:12 PM
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No scare quotes in "We are all mutants, scientists find."


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:14 PM
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85: Well, of course. It's like people don't realize that X-Men is a documentary.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:18 PM
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'We' are all mutants, scientists 'find'.

Why are we discussing the BBC rather than Today.Az? :-(


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:18 PM
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Also, if you say it aloud in a fake British accent, it seems to fit better

I find this is true of many things.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:23 PM
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72, 75: Um. I liked the fruit basket teo offered me more. Take your pick, I guess, pm.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:23 PM
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pm, did you use to be ptm? Until, I guess, a tragic accident cost you the "t"? But you've recovered enough to comment again?

Or maybe you're someone different.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:24 PM
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The Oldest Established Permanent Floating Crack Game in New York?


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:25 PM
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I don't think I even got a fruit basket.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:25 PM
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87.2: OK. I like this headline: "Armenian diaspora in UAE is dead: head of Azerbaijani diaspora organization "

And from the article, the spirit of Serdar Argic lives on:

Only then Armenians, taking advantage of the opportunity, were able to print in a newspaper that allegedly with the support of Turkey Azerbaijan has imposed a blockade on Karabakh and wanted to occupy it. After reading this article, I decided to force the newspaper to correct the errors and punish them for their lies. I succeeded to do it in a month . It took a lot of efforts. All the authorities were informed in a written form that the paper was engaged in anti-Emirate propaganda.
As a result, after a great pressure from local authorities, the newspaper published a new article, which included the following: "Karabakh is historical Azerbaijani land occupied by Armenian extremists, thus killing thousands of innocent people." We must always be alert and monitor the press, both Arab and English speaking.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:27 PM
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89: That is not the canonical fruit basket.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:28 PM
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92: Hertz Donut?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:28 PM
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I don't think I ever got a fruitbasket either. My delurking process was long and tentative.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:28 PM
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Check it out: Japan's Dennis Kucinich just became prime minister.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:29 PM
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92, 96: It probably helped that I delurked by defending New Mexico in a thread teo was reading.

94: I was afraid of that.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:30 PM
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93: Also "Armenian expert: Armenia has a role of ball in football diplomacy".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:32 PM
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I never got a fruit basket, either.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:34 PM
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AWB sprang forth, fully delurked, from Labs's head.


Posted by: arthegall | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:39 PM
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I was trying to shift the fruit basket thing in a more dignified direction.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:46 PM
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Also, the New Mexico thing.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 10:47 PM
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so the answer is middle school, isn't it?


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 11:00 PM
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The answer is the reason, and the reason is because.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 11:06 PM
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And because is why.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 11:09 PM
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Back when I was reading lots and lots of headlines, I wondered the same thing about the BBC. Why use the marks if the quote's not in the article? I've wondered if maybe there was an audio/video version of the story with the quote, but never looked one up.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 11:19 PM
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There's probably a really geeky joke about Cecil Woodham-Smith waiting to be made here.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 09- 2-09 11:22 PM
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Maybe it's a marker of indirect discourse.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 1:04 AM
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The presence of quotations in BBC headlines is an indicator that the BBC itself is not reporting the claim, it is merely reporting that someone else is making the claim.

So, the headline "Somali camps unfit for humans" would indicate that the BBC are making this claim themselves. But the headline "Somali camps 'unfit for humans'" is the BBC reporting that some other person or organization (in this case, Oxfam) has made this claim. It's headline shorthand for "[Someone says that] Somali camps [are] unfit for humans".

The use of quotes does not mean that someone has actually said these exact words: usually they are a paraphrase of something someone has said. In this case the claim was originally "barely fit for humans" but this was too long for the headline.

This form of headline-ese is ugly and often misleading, but it's standard in UK media.


Posted by: Gareth Rees | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 5:15 AM
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"BBC headlines 'misleading'".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 5:36 AM
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What 110 said - this is the standard British headline idiom. My guess (and it is a total guess) is that it originated from court reporting. Basically, fair and accurate reports of court proceedings are exempt from libel - which otherwise is an everpresent danger for British newspapers. So it would make sense when reporting some potentially defamatory claim made in court (X killed Y, say), to make it very clear that the claim is a reported one, not the newspaper making it itself.

Alternatively, it's possible it originated in the tabloids. The red tops are notorious for putting really punchy, totally made up "quotes" in their headlines, that ostensibly convey the gist of the story. "My drug hell", that sort of thing.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 5:41 AM
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102: I was trying to shift the fruit basket thing in a more dignified direction.

Or it could be shifted in this direction (entitled "Fruit Basket"). But that would be *WRONG*.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:01 AM
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Somali humans 'unfit for camps'


Posted by: Cryptic nmed | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:03 AM
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Meanwhile from Today.AZ, " Iran sets record for number of simultanmeously hung prisoners".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:17 AM
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So single quotes in British media == the word "alleged" or "allegedly" in American media? I think I'll take the former.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:57 AM
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Doesn't matter if it's single or double. What matters is whether it's in a headline. Basically, if something is in quotes in a headline, don't assume it's actually a quote. If something's in quotes in the body of an article, it's supposed to be a direct quote. Of course, it's far from unheard of for the tabs to just fabricate quotes.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:59 AM
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Also, allegedly doesn't have quite the right connotation, although it's often what it means. The connotation is that someone other than the newspaper has described the story's subject in that way (but not necessarily with those precise words). It could be an official report, a witness, the subject, whatever. It's (usually) a distancing device.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:02 AM
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90: yes. And that tragic accident was me forgetting exactly which unimaginative letter combination I had chosen.


Posted by: pm | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:07 AM
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119. Well, if you hang around, LB will start bullying you to adopt something more memorable anyway, like Pip Emma or something.


Posted by: OFE | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:23 AM
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Pro-Magnon


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:33 AM
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Pogo Mahone


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:36 AM
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Póg Mo Thóin is available and an excellent choice.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 8:57 AM
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Fine, if you insist.


Posted by: Póg Mo Thóin | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 9:02 AM
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Silvio Berlusconi, at it again.


Posted by: Lambent Cactus | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 9:53 AM
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Can I just be Silvio Berlusconi?


Posted by: ptm | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 10:14 AM
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126: Assolutamente. I hope you like pasta. And espresso. And that other thing.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 10:46 AM
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And the BBC news website is clearly written by blithering idiots anyway, so don't fret over any of it.

I read the story that Stanley's post is about today in the paper, and wondered whether it would be commented on here. The Guardian article included the quote "peeing on people, eating potato chips out of [buttock] cracks, vodka shots out of [buttock] cracks (there is video of that one)". The [buttock]'s cracked me up.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 5:07 PM
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Today's follow-up world-in-brief-type story in the Washington Post print edition (can't find the blurb online) had the unfortunate headline "Probe Underway of Embassy Guards".


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 6:09 PM
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They should probably just write "[gluteal clefts]".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 6:16 PM
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Pm is a nice pseud, I'd love to adopt it if pm abandons it and one can change it according to the mood pm/am


Posted by: read | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 6:19 PM
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A headline with single quotes that achieves wankerdom in a different way: "GOP calls VA pamphlet a 'death book.' Experts say it isn't." From the (usually better than this) folks at McClatchy.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 6:33 PM
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115 is a masterpiece of sublimated journalism major frustration (I hope).


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 3-09 7:21 PM
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I think you should stick with 'read', read.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09- 4-09 7:11 AM
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