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You should try wearing pants!

I will not.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:39 AM
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No way! All the moms in commercials wear pants like that, with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:43 AM
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If they sell them at J. Crew, they're probably reasonably fashionable.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:51 AM
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2: So it sends the signal that I'm edgy?

3: You'd think, but I actually had to hunt at the J. Crew site. None of their pants look like this anymore, except for the on-sale possibly-being-discontinued "classic cut" or whatever they called it.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:54 AM
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with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.

Hott.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:04 AM
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I'm always hoping the old-fashioned German (Austrian?) cleavage-spouting dresses will come back into fashion. Not sure what they called.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:09 AM
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Dirndls. There's some sort of Czech variation, too.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:09 AM
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6: I'm afraid that, as actually worn, they don't spout so much cleavage.

OTOH, you can always go to the new place on the South Side for your Slutty Dirndl fetish. It's like Slutoberfest over there.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:20 AM
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with their unbuttoned button-down shirts.

What exactly are these commercials for?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:20 AM
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8: Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:21 AM
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8: Between slutoween and Slutoberfest autumn has way too many slutty events. I'd like my sluttiness more evenly distributed across the year.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:22 AM
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11: on purely anthropological grounds, you'd expect there to be more in the spring. Fertility rites and so on.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:25 AM
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Ci$li$? Lace your partner's waffle, wear your shirt like this and you'll get laid.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:26 AM
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That's what a dirndl is? I thought it was just the skirt bit, not the whole outfit. Not that it's terribly relevant to my fashion choices.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:27 AM
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You're supposed to wear a white shirt under the dirndl, you contributors to the downfall of society.


Posted by: Liesel | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:38 AM
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Between slutoween and Slutoberfest autumn has way too many slutty events.

To say nothing of Slutsgiving.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:42 AM
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12: Yes, but do we have a May rite, celebrating the return of the tank top? No. Instead, we have an October ritual celebrating fishnet stockings. October! This is the downfall of society.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:43 AM
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According to wikipedia:

The dirndl is mentioned in the song "Turn Around", composed in 1959 by Harry Belafonte, Alan Greene, and Malvina Reynolds. "Dirndls and petticoats, where have you gone?"

I find this fact fascinating, if for no other reason, than because I didn't know that Malvina Reynolds and Harry Belafonte had collaborated. (though, the entry on Reynolds says that she wrote the song and Belafonte just covered it).


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:45 AM
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17: The USSR used to have all of the tanks parade every May 1. Maybe we could adapt a bit?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:45 AM
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Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.

Not true! There's the public transportation and the cheap student tickets.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:46 AM
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Sorry, it's all black leggings with belted neon type sweaters now and pants with extremely tapered ankles and long necklaces. It's 1986 again.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:48 AM
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21 to 20.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:49 AM
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I hate when pants wear necklaces.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:51 AM
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22 is pretty accurate.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:52 AM
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It seems that the public transportation disappoints as well.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:53 AM
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I do despair of being able to find non-tapered, non-skinny jeans or pants in the near future, though. What's a girl with big hips and thighs to do?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:54 AM
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15 to 26.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:55 AM
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The only possible datedness about those pants, Heebie, is the boot-cut. The current hip silhouettes are a) leggings and b) harem-y. Feel free to ignore that, though. These pants are fine, and I like J. Crew chinos too.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:56 AM
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I'm just going to wear my old clothes forever. I'm not down with this new 1986. The 80s were supposed to be for jest and dance parties only.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:57 AM
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To say nothing of Slutsgiving.

And Sluteran's Day.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:58 AM
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25: Wow, that guy is grumpy.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 10:59 AM
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30: It's actually Slutmemberance Day in Canada. And Slutistice Day elsewhere.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:05 AM
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Again, November is not the best time of the year for outdoor slut memberance.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:07 AM
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Slutistice Day

Sort of a reverse Lysistrata celebration, where we all put out to achieve peace.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:09 AM
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I just saw the leggings/sweater look on a moderately heavy thirtysomething woman in my building -- while it was limited to teens, I could ignore it, but it seems to be mainstreaming.

I do remember it from my teenage years as awfully comfortable and easy, but it's hellishly unflattering on a grownup. I suppose I'll spend the next year or so debating whether my laziness and desire to wear stretchy clothes is more powerful than my vanity.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:10 AM
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I'm just having trouble getting behind the tapered and skinny jeans. I think I'm beginning to officially be left behind by Fashion.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:17 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty much ignoring the leggings/sweater look as well. I can't seem to find the right sort of baggy sweater at the Goodwill, and belts have always annoyed me, etc. For various reasons, my current fashion mood is more "shit-kicking vampire-killer" or "early Soviet potato-flinger" and I figure I'll just run with those for now.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:19 AM
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There are versions of the look that aren't as bad for adults or for heavier people -- maybe swap out the sweater for something more like a swingy dress. But the look does depend on being generally skinny, with skinny legs in particular. There's no iteration of it that will work for me, with my thick legs and hourglass shape.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:19 AM
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I think I'm beginning to officially be left behind by Fashion.

You could go for the Hepburnesque wide-legged pants. Or are those already out?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:46 AM
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For various reasons, my current fashion mood is more "shit-kicking vampire-killer" or "early Soviet potato-flinger" and I figure I'll just run with those for now.

These are both excellent choices.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:53 AM
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|| No more masturbating to The Equalizer. |>


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 11:56 AM
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You could go for the Hepburnesque wide-legged pants.

Not flattering on any woman the wrong side of the willowy/skeletal divide.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 12:28 PM
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People think that, but I swear, if they're cut right and if you have a small waist, you can pull them off even if you're not skin and bones.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 12:37 PM
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43: Isn't height/length-of-limb an issue? I've never seen (and I try to write this without moralizing my aesthetics) a woman shorter than 5'8" or so wearing Hepburn pants (you know, we might as well just call them that; most people who would care wouldn't associate them with anybody else) and looking remarkably good.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 12:45 PM
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It would be a hoot if you wore wide-leg pants over leggings in the Chicago winter.


Posted by: Frostbite | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 12:48 PM
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45 reminds me that I have a down-filled parka that I have not needed to wear since 1999 or so. Not that I've ever lived in Chicago, but I'm not longer on the plains and exposed to the wind from Canada.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 12:59 PM
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41:Never watched The Equalizer, not once, so I mostly know Woodward from Wicker Man and Breaker Morant. But those will suffice for immortality.


This previous
hardman series has a great reputation, but apparently most of the first two seasons are forever gone.

The Monty Python history explained that the BBC had a practice of recording over their old videotapes, and if Terry Jones had not preserved them, Monty Python would be a memory. Most of Spike Jones and Dudley Moore/Peter Cook work from the era us gone.

Incomprehensible.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:02 PM
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47: I am going to burst into tears just from reading the words Breaker Morant. Sob.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:10 PM
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Huh, my comment didn't post. JM, what do you mean by harem-y?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:15 PM
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Harem pants.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:21 PM
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50: Wow, I had no idea people really wore pants like that. People really wear pants like that?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:24 PM
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Why, Jackmormon has posted a picture of herself in such a pair in this very forum.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:26 PM
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I guess I must have missed that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:31 PM
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Here, but the photo appears to have jumped bail.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:37 PM
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but it's hellishly unflattering on a grownup,

Cute as a button on 5-y.o.s. Actually, not sweaters, but "tunics," a term that in practice seems to mean either dresses from 2 years ago or shirts that won't fit for 5 years.

8: Everything about Germany dissappoints in the end.

Our review for the aforementioned South Side beer hall (licensed by a famous M√ľnchen establishment) riffed on the fact that Germans (and Austrians) really do live up to a lot of the stereotypes - heavy food, oompah music, dubious fashion choices - and AB's mom (who's from Philly) told us that AB's German relatives probably wouldn't look kindly on the article. We weren't trying to be mean - we love it over there!


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:38 PM
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I remember not reading that thread.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:38 PM
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I was hoping to find a picture of the members of Procol Harum wearing really goofy pants, so that I could make a "Harum pants" pun, but unfortunately their pants look disappointingly unremarkable. You may nonetheless be interested in (available at the link) a 17 year-old Danish girl's argument that we should all "open [our] hearts to the music that Procol Harum plays".


Posted by: Otto von Bisquick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:40 PM
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55: Pretty cute on ten-year-olds as well -- Sally's loping around looking like a broadshouldered gazelle in a series of stripy tunics and leggings.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:41 PM
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The pants in 50 are for the woman who wants to look like she tied a sweatshirt around her waist but doesn't want to own a sweatshirt.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:49 PM
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Combine the harem pants with a bulky olive cardigan, stompin' boots, and a red kerchief, and you're all set to fling potatoes at the Imperial Guard!


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 2:53 PM
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I've never in my adult life owned a proper pair of trousers like those ones in the photo. I had to look respectably smart (though not at all stylish) for a Remembrance Sunday parade last week and wore my eldest's school trousers.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 3:49 PM
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Did you throw potatoes, asilon?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 3:51 PM
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No Sifu, I was trying to show respect. And anyway, those school trousers have no pockets for potatoes.

Currently I'm aiming for a slightly mad old tweedy dog lady look.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 4:33 PM
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The pants in 50 aren't what I expected to be harem-style pants. Huh, I have a pair or two of those that I haven't worn for a long time, because. Can't pull it off. This is not the environment. ('What the hell are you wearing?' isn't really a reaction you want to be fielding all day long, or at least I don't, any more. Go JM!)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 4:48 PM
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I wear ones of leather/nylon, and imagine rubber would chafe a lot more.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 4:48 PM
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I haven't worn for a long time, because. Can't pull it off.

That reminds me of that charming old folktale about Br'er Rabbit and the tar harem pants.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 5:29 PM
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"Please, Br'er Fox, don't throw me into Filene's Basement!"


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 5:31 PM
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Racist.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 5:33 PM
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8: I'm afraid that, as actually worn, they don't spout so much cleavage.

The first page of the Google image search for "dirndl" is a battleground between the chaste and revealing deployment of same. I was also amused by mydrindl.com's apparent use of the translation game for some of its English, For the MyDirndl Team only content customers are a basis for our right to exist. We try hard to reach all sorts of things therefore around this status at our customers.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 5:43 PM
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20 cheap student tickets

when i was there, noone would give me the discount, because my grad school ID didn't have a year printed on it, so they didn't know if it was still valid

and those beerwench dresses are for seeing some nipple poke through, as celebration of return of cool weather, not for cleavage.

those harem pants in 50 just make me think of doughy pantload


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 6:05 PM
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10: Amen. (Rory gets back tonight, so hopefully she feels otherwise... )


Posted by: Di Kotimy. | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 6:08 PM
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|| Also, I am sad. My anticipated trip to NYC is on hold as the friend I'd planned to travel with was just diagnosed with breast cancer. Caught early and prognosis looks very good at this point. But people my age are not supposed to fucking get cancer.|>


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 6:15 PM
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Di, very sorry to hear about your friend.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 6:36 PM
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That sucks, Di. Best wishes for effective treatment and a speedy recovery for your friend.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 6:39 PM
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Oh, man, Di. That sucks. Very sorry.


Posted by: emdash | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 7:34 PM
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Oh, that's sad news. Hope all goes well with her.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 7:53 PM
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So sorry, Di. Best wishes to her. Fucking cancer.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 8:55 PM
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Best wishes for your friend, Di. Also, hope you get to go to NYC soon too.


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:18 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that, Di. Damn cancer.


Posted by: eb | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:20 PM
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Cancer sucks, even 'caught early and treatable'. I second MM and hope that both of you will be able to.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:24 PM
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Amen. Good luck to her, Di.

max
['One of those days.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 11-16-09 9:29 PM
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Thanks all. I feel like a jackass for complaining that the trip is postponed. It's just what made this "real" and now so abstract and distant.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-17-09 1:12 AM
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I'm sorry to hear that, Di. As I've reconnected with old acquaintances on Facebook, I've been taken aback at the number of people my age and younger who have dealt with or are dealing with breast cancer.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-17-09 6:14 AM
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Yeah. Since my friend foung out i've had a number of other friends share stories of people our age and younger who've had breast cancer -- and have walked away strong, which is encouraging.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 11-17-09 9:07 AM
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I'm so sorry, Di. Best of luck to your friend.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 11-17-09 1:58 PM
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Good luck to her and to you.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 11-17-09 2:10 PM
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