Re: Float Like a Butterfly, Sting Like a Nerd

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Similar: "round-the-house chess". No clock involved; you make your move, get up, leave the room, run round the house, and if your opponent still hasn't made a move when you get back, you get to move again. Obviously this is a game that you will triumph at if you are both a mathematical genius and a very good runner. It was invented by Alan Turing, who was.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:11 AM
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Didn't dsquared comment on chess boxing ages ago? Something about it being less fun than it looked.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:15 AM
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It doesn't look very fun.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:16 AM
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2: Yes.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:20 AM
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I am very bad at chess and do not enjoy being punched in the face. May I suggest thumb-wrestling checkers?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:21 AM
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I had no idea it was real, but it does look fantastic in The Nikopol Trilogy, which I should really reread.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:22 AM
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How I love Alan Turing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:28 AM
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I might have enjoyed chess-boxing in my chess-playing youth. I was a pretty good chess player, and fairly agile, so I would have tried to run away from my opponent during the boxing, so the match could be decided by the chess. But I'm probably underestimating my cowardice.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:30 AM
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So if you wanna come sweatin, stressin contestin / You'll catch a sharp sword to the midsection.

Can I say how great it is that the RZA sponsors the Hip-Hop Chess Federation?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:32 AM
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Obviously this is a game that you will triumph at if you are both a mathematical genius and a very good runner

Well...in my experience there is suprisingly little correlation between being really good at chess and being particularly good at anything else.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:35 AM
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run away from my opponent

Be sure to run faster than Chris Horodecki.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:38 AM
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Weird weather watch: Friday's predicted low for Houston, TX is lower than that for McMurdo Station, Antarctica.
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Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:51 AM
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Where I'm headed tomorrow, the predicted low is -10F. I am not pleased.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:52 AM
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11: Am I crazy, or did I just see that?


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:58 AM
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That fight was broadcast live just before Christmas, so probably.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 10:59 AM
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11: Also, if that were Herb Dean, I think he would have stopped it 30 seconds earlier.


Posted by: Klug | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:01 AM
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Well, now we have our next Unfogged DCon activity!

Or, we could try Wii-Dungeons and Dragons!


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:02 AM
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At least it's summer in balmy Antarctica right now.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:03 AM
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16: Has Mrs. Dean been complaining again?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:07 AM
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Reminds of that time during my undergraduate years when Ithaca was colder than Mars.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:13 AM
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They could make them play with the boxing gloves on, at least. But it sounds like a stupid game. Play cylindrical suicide chess or something if you think it needs livening up.

In other news, still shitloads of snow here.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:15 AM
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I would have commented if I could have been the first person to quote Da Mystery of Chess Boxin'


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:18 AM
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I cannot warm the fuck up in my office. I'm wearing a medium coat, zipped up, hood up, and my heater claims to be cranked up to 83, and my hands and feet are freezing and I'm getting really cranky.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:21 AM
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I used to be a really bad boxer, back in the day. I was 0-2 against the one guy who would fight me. But the dude had freakishly long arms so it was very hard for me to get close enough to land a punch without getting clobbered myself. He could probably beat me in chess, too.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:22 AM
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24: I bet you did better against those who wouldn't fight you, though.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:30 AM
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wd, you can still be the first person to quote the movie.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:35 AM
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Now I'm drinking hot water.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:38 AM
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But the dude had freakishly long arms so it was very hard for me to get close enough to land a punch without getting clobbered myself. He could probably beat me in chess, too.

You could put the chessboard closer to you.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:39 AM
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I finished my hot water and I'm only lukewarm, not truly warm. What utter bullshit.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:40 AM
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I think Leibniz would beat Newton in a well-refereed boxing match, but Newton would fight dirty and win in a brawl.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:41 AM
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29: Maybe if we all focus on sending you warm thoughts?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:43 AM
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I might have some difficulties with that, snark.


Posted by: washerdreyer | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:45 AM
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The heat in my entire office building is out. I somehow snagged one of two space heaters for a couple of hours, so I might survive the day.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:47 AM
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Think of something embarrassing, heebie.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:48 AM
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34: Like crapping my pants onstage? Mmm, that is working!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:51 AM
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Crapping your pants only produces a temporary superficial feeling of warmth. Then the dampness makes the cold worse.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:52 AM
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Well, what's more embarrassing than crapping my pants?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:56 AM
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Thinking about crapping your pants might work. I was just suggesting that you don't actually do it again right now.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:57 AM
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Earlier today I was out in my driveway in short sleeves, gym shorts, gloves, and snow boots chipping away the ice block of piled-up snow. The mailman looked at me like I was a crazy person and sort of resisted handing me my mail.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 11:58 AM
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If you crapped your pants, he probably wouldn't have handed you the mail at all.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:00 PM
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Exactly how ill do I have to feel before I'm justified in not going to work tomorrow? I don't feel like it's something contagious or and I'm still able to do my job, it's just an uncomfortable fever and headache. I actually wish I were feeling worse right now so I could take tomorrow off and be done with it.
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Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:00 PM
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I thought fever automatically meant "good sign of contagion/stay home from work".


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:02 PM
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41: Most fevers are contagious.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:02 PM
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39: My mailman is the only other person I know (apart from myself) who wears shorts throughout the winter. I'd probably be the last person to whom he'd resist handing the mail.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:03 PM
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Exactly how ill do I have to feel before I'm justified in not going to work tomorrow?

I think this depends on what kind of work you do.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:03 PM
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I'm always getting pwned on my health advice, but at least this time it wasn't buy Dr. Drew.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:03 PM
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41: Not all that ill. I've slowly, begrudgingly realized that coming to work sick costs me more productivity over more days than staying home and getting some rest so I feel better sooner.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:03 PM
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I bet if you looked at your official office policies (if your company is big enough to have them), it would say "don't come to work with a fever".


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:04 PM
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I've slowly, begrudgingly realized that coming to work sick costs me more productivity over more days than staying home


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:04 PM
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I better go home and rest until I remember the differences between "by" and "buy".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:04 PM
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42 & 43 are correct. Definitely stay home. If you'd like I can write you a note.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:04 PM
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Yeah, fever is supposed to be an automatic get-out-of-work card. I wish more parents knew that it's supposed to be an automatic get-out-of-school card as well.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:07 PM
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I knew a woman who wore shorts year-round in Philadelphia.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:12 PM
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I've slowly, begrudgingly realized that coming to work sick costs me more productivity over more days than staying home and getting some rest so I feel better sooner.

Stay home, but I don't actually buy this argument. I think you recover in the same amount of time whether you get out there and take it moderately easy at work, or stay home in bed.

The argument to stay home is either that your contagious, or you feel sufficiently crappy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:15 PM
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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:15 PM
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If you find yourself unable to form contractions properly, you're definitely too sick to be at work and should go home where it's warm.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:16 PM
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Guys, I think heebie's dying.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:22 PM
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Heh, glad to see such a consensus. OK, I'll prepare to take tomorrow off. It's already 2:30, though, so there's not really any point in leaving now. If I feel fine tomorrow morning I can just show up regardless.

45: Indoors with no heavy lifting.

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coming to work sick costs me more productivity over more days than staying home and getting some rest so I feel better sooner.

I've heard that reasoning before, but it's harder for me to listen to because it seems like I almost never get seriously sick. I mean, I can only think of one time since starting college when I was so ill that I couldn't go far from bed, and even in that case I'm not sure if it wasn't the result of food poisoning. This is good, of course, except that it puts me in my current situation a few times a year.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:22 PM
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57: Dying to go to Walt Disney World!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:24 PM
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Conrete floor?

Doesn't matter how high I set the heat in my home office, or even that I wear super thick socks and boots, or put a carpet on the floor, or how high I set theat, the cold that just comes up from the mf concrete floor beats all. Two hours of it and my toes are cold. Hot tea doesn't work. Nothing less than a few goods slugs on cognac/brqandy throughout the day. I'm so half in the bag7 by late afternoon that I keep wondering how Churchill could possibly function if he drank an entire bottle of brandy every day. I guess I'll have to build up to it - definitely make sit easierr to grade those late afternoon papers and exams, not sure if that works for fighting WWII.


Posted by: Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:24 PM
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I almost never get seriously sick

Walk into a day care center and lick one of the door handles. That will fix that problem.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:24 PM
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Looking at typing above, perhaps I should change that "late afternoon" to mid-afternoon.


Posted by: Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:26 PM
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58.2 is basically me, too, which is why I have a lot of experience with coming to work sickish, not getting much done, and stretching out both the illness and the lack of productivity.


Posted by: Not Prince Hamlet | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:29 PM
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I'm never going to live down my name, am I?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:32 PM
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60: I thought it was a myth that booze warmed one up, and that, contrary to that widely held belief, it actually restricted blood flow or something and actually cooled you off.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:37 PM
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I thought it was a myth that booze warmed one up, and that, contrary to that widely held belief, it actually restricted blood flow or something and actually cooled you off.

It increases blood flow to your extremities which can make you feel warmer temporarily, but it comes at the expense of your core temperature so is bad overall.


Posted by: CJB | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:40 PM
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I think it is that booze increases surface blood flow and thus makes you feel warmer while cooling you quicker.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:41 PM
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Again.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:42 PM
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63: Maybe that's the problem. My current job doesn't require me to be productive. Maybe if I was at a job where I had to do something and what I did mattered, I would be more quick to say "I'm not feeling well, so I won't be in the rest of the afternoon/tomorrow."

On the other hand, maybe I'd feel my position was more tenuous. Who knows. I can't remember specific similar situations at my previous job, but my best guess is that I would have cancelled my afternoon appointments and left early with little fanfare.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:42 PM
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65: it makes you feel but makes you more likely to freeze to death.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:42 PM
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Um, feel warmer.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:43 PM
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Um, pwned.


Posted by: Brock Landers | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:43 PM
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@65 coud be, but you tend to notice less as day goes on
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"warmer temporarily" Yes, that's why it's necessary to keep drinking. Sort of like the old joke about cocaine: "I feel like a new man when I take a hit of cocaine. Only thing is, the first thing that the new man wants is a hit of cocaine."
Also once spring and summer come it means finding a new excuse for taking the first nip of the day at 10 or 11 a.m.


Posted by: Middle Aged Man | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:44 PM
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I have found that drinking makes people more willing to get close to me, thus conserving heat. Unfortunately, it isn't my own drinking that is required.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:46 PM
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It's warm and sunny here. I just went outside to take in the trash can without a coat or anything.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 12:48 PM
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Yes. Next time, we'd prefer you wore pants.


Posted by: Opinionated Teo's Neighbors | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 1:07 PM
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I cannot warm the fuck up in my office.

The Fuck usually warms itself up.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 1:33 PM
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I'm surprised that it gets cold in heebie-ville.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 1:36 PM
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Depressing.


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Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 1:49 PM
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Ha ha. 72 degrees, blue skies, and I took the dog for a walk in the hills this morning. It will be chilly enough for a sweater this evening. Just another day in the world's most pleasant dystopia.


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I used to have a spinet virginals and just enough skill to tune it to quarter-comma meantone, more or less. Say I wanted to start playing again with a keyboard controller; what would I need to get a proper tuning? LMSO, or is it in Garage Band already, or what??
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Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 1:54 PM
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83: For starters, you'll need a fillet of a fenny snake, eye of newt, toe of frog, wool of bat, tongue of dog, Adder's fork, blind-worm's sting, lizard's leg, and a howlet's wing. After that it gets strange.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:06 PM
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clew: try this: http://www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/ or this: http://rainwarrior.thenoos.net/intun/index.html

(I haven't used either, but they were recommended on another board I'm on.)


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:08 PM
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It's not just me, is it - 82 started off normal and then went a bit mad?

It's apparently 16 degrees in the room where I am - one of the warmer rooms in our house I think. But I am feeling toasty warm - the 2 glasses of Merlot, or the fact that I am wearing handwarmers, long thermal underwear (top and bottom), a T-shirt, a fleece jumper, fleece pyjama bottoms, thick socks, and my lovely warm slippers that my mum gave me for Christmas?


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:30 PM
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86: 16 degrees!!!!

Oh...Celsius, right?

And I'm with you on 82.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:37 PM
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Was 82 the first tenuous sign of Di's prediction coming true?


Posted by: pain perdu | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:48 PM
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Nope.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 2:53 PM
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Celsius indeed, you backward people. 61 in your money, I think.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 3:18 PM
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90: Yeah, I converted it and had a moment of glee at the 16/61 number flip. It takes very little to amuse me.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 3:27 PM
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28/82 too Stanley!


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:17 PM
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Better yet: -41, -41.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:19 PM
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My mind just exploded!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:39 PM
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I have this iconized program that dynamically reads the temperature of my components. Thgere is one sensor that I think reads the air temperature inside the case.

I think, because it is currently reading 48 degrees F.

But even with the window open, and 51 outside, there is no way it is less than 55 in here. Body, lights, electronics usually raise the temp 5-10 degrees from incoming air.

I'm in shorts and t-shirt.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:40 PM
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It's about -10 or colder at the moment - this is all quite extreme enough for southern England without reaching -41 (however much Stanley and Knecht would like it).


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:41 PM
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I have this iconized program that dynamically reads the temperature of my components.

Bob is a robot?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 4:43 PM
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Attempting to get to work earlier today was shitty due to snow and general Oxfordshire incompetence [basically nothing was gritted, and even the fairly major road through our village was nearly 1ft deep in uncleared snow]. Not even going to bother trying tomorrow. I walked through the snow for a couple of hours there and back, and won't do that again.

re: chess-boxing

I spar pretty regularly, so I expect I probably wouldn't get totally owned in the boxing rounds. I'm fairly used to being hit and my hand-speed and technique is solid enough for a chubby 30-something. Although it's been a while since I had anyone really going full contact on me [I'm more of a 'controlled contact'/'light continuous' type], so it's quite possible I'd shit out of it if the person was genuinely good and/or hardcore. On the other hand, I'm a crap chess-player, so I'd really have to win in the boxing rounds, I think.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 7:29 PM
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thanks, Bave Dee. Er, is the board public? and does it have a claque of early-music enthusiasts? I expected this information to be a lot easier to stumble across -- harpsichords are a pain to maintain, surely other people are willing to try modern tools.

Possibly they all get sucked into microtonal Javanese scales immediately. Hm.

I was delighted to learn, over break, that musicians who are taught to improvise in jazz* practise the modes by their classical names (with attention to their classical emotional freight, even).

*As opposed to those who learn, untaught.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 7:51 PM
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basically nothing was gritted

gritted = sanded? salted? plowed?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 8:06 PM
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99: You mean ionian, dorian, phrygian, lydian, mixolydian, aeolian, and locrian? (A handy mnemonic I made up in college jazz class: I Do Phrenology Like Mixing A Local.)

The board is over at monome.org and has few if any early-music enthusiasts but does have a handful of people who are interested in modes, just intonation, and other tuning stuff. I'm into that kind of stuff in a half-assed way, so I remembered a thread with those links.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 8:22 PM
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99: Yes. Since I last heard of them in the _Republic_, I was delighted. (Also, since I have absolutely zero improvisatory skill, I was pleased to hear that a mere decade of devoted effort is often enough to develop some.)


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 8:46 PM
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I remember a video game, possibly out before 1992, in which chess pieces did battle for position during otherwise normal games of chess. No boxing that I remember, though.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 8:57 PM
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Battle Chess, right? I did own that game, whatever it was called. Very silly.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 8:58 PM
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Maybe. I remember it being a bit more sophisticated than the Battle Chess google just served up, but that was a simpler time.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 9:01 PM
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Mine was def Battle Chess.


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 9:15 PM
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100: sanded, I reckon.

99ff: That's fascinating; I had no idea. I wonder why the classical rather than the church modes.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 01- 6-10 9:55 PM
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re: 100

Salted [and often ploughed, too], but salted is what is meant in the UK by 'gritting'.

re: 102

You can learn jazz improv in much less than a decade. I'm not very good at it on the guitar yet, although I am trying (and can make fairly convincing 'swing' guitar sounds), but when I played sax it took a LOT less than 10 years.

It's worth noting that scalar improvising using modes was preceded for decades by improvising primarily using chord tones/arpeggios and diatonic playing. You don't need to, say, learn the modes of the melodic minor [super locrian, etc] to sound like Charlie Christian or Louis Armstrong.

The taught versus untaught thing in jazz is interesting. Django Reinhardt, for example, was doing very sophisticated things -- wholetone scales, heavy use of diminished, harmonic minors, quite 'outside' notes, etc -- despite no musical education at all.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01- 7-10 1:36 AM
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There was a chess-like game, but where combat between the pieces had a non-fixed outcome (that is, you'd 'take' a knight with your bishop, except that the pieces weren't standard chess pieces, and then go to a subgame where they fought), that a friend had in the eighties for his Atari 800. Might have been called Archon. (Hmm. Yeah, it was Archon.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 01- 7-10 5:33 AM
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i was the best soloist in jazz band back in 6th grade, and i don't think i'd really be all that much better today, even if i could make a good tone on a sax (which i couldn't, once my braces were removed). seems a lot like dancing, really.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 01- 8-10 2:34 AM
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heh, and that was about the last time i did karate too. and i lost my car to the tow truck today when it got immobile while driving in the snow. the fine or the walk to reclaim through coldass snow, both sure suck.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 01- 8-10 2:39 AM
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