Re: This is kind of a dirty trick

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I feel like I'm missing some context here. Who's calling themselves curators?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:12 PM
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And why?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:12 PM
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And who is this guy that I should care about his opinion on the matter?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:14 PM
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2: Because they're wrong on the Internet.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:16 PM
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Teo, Ben's been blogging here a long time. You might not recognize him because sometimes he calls himself something different. But we care about his opinion because he's one of us.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:16 PM
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1. Everyone and his brother. Magazines are curated by people. Probably coffee shops are curated by people. Bicycles are curated by people.
2. Class associations, mostly, I think, and to make it seem as if rare judgment and effort was involved.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:16 PM
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And who is this guy that I should care about his opinion on the matter?

Well, apparently he's a new curator.

He curated this wordle, for example.

More than that I cannot say (because I don't know it).

It's also possible that if you don't care about it at all (protip: I don't), you shouldn't care about his opinion either.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:18 PM
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I had to ask myself, so I'm not a curator. Imagine my relief, because the responsibility would have been too great to bear.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:21 PM
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Off with their thumbs!

We're pleased to have Ad Age curating the YouTube homepage today, in a spotlight that celebrates the creative revolution going on now in the advertising and marketing business.

So yeah, maybe he has a bit of a point.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:22 PM
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I had to ask myself, so I'm not a curator

Yeah, but maybe you were just being polite.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:23 PM
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I guess I just don't have the same associations with the term "curator" that these magazine/coffee shop/bicycle enthusiasts have.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:24 PM
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There's a lot of BS floating around about digital curation and link curation etc blah blah blah


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:25 PM
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i don't think this definition of wanker is broad enough.


Posted by: yoyo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:25 PM
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A number of examples in this NY Times article. Now that the trend has been pointed out I realize I had noticed it before, but I hadn't noticed that I noticed.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:35 PM
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It's really sickening.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:37 PM
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But why would you want to be a curator? It's barely a step up from being an administrator...


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:40 PM
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Huh. I mean, he does have a point, as the NYT article points out: traditionally "curation" referred to caring for things, not acquiring them. That's still the way it's used in archaeology, where lack of adequate curation for the vast collections of artifacts in museums is a big problem (often called the "curation crisis"). Maybe some of these would-be curators can help out with that.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:40 PM
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16 kind of sums up my feelings on the matter. I have not generally thought of curation as a high-status or sought-after job. I guess in certain contexts it is, though, and that cachet is what these people are going for.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:42 PM
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17.last: Maybe they could write blog comments calling attention to the problem.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:43 PM
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"Curator" is actually the name for a type of high-level administrator in some cultural organizations.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:45 PM
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Maybe they could.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:45 PM
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Is curator the next step, after we all were supposed to become our own editors in the digital super information highway revolution?


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:45 PM
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21: Probably, but would they?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:47 PM
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Much more than anyone could possibly want to know about the curation crisis in Colorado.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:48 PM
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23: Maybe.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-12-10 11:49 PM
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Is curator the next step, after we all were supposed to become our own editors in the digital super information highway revolution?

And now we're supposed to back up our own data as well...


Posted by: OFE | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:53 AM
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22:"Collector" and/or "archivist" are steps before curator, although many or most have already gone there.

Do you have art on your harddrive or shelves? Is it properly preserved and catalogued?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 4:54 AM
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27 misses 'decorator', which probably accounts for more people than all the collectors, archivists and curators in the world.


Posted by: OFE | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 5:20 AM
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God, I wish I was a curator.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 5:37 AM
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I blame All Tomorrow's Parties.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 6:21 AM
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I've been wanting to salt-curate some hams.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 6:36 AM
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I'm missing some context here. Who's calling themselves curators?

Misguided docents.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 8:40 AM
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Misguided docents.

If only Russ Meyer were still around to make a movie with that title.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 8:42 AM
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Brief Googling does not provide verification for my belief that Chaz Ebert forbade Russ Meyer from throwing Roger a bachelor party because he knew too well how Roger's tastes ran.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 9:18 AM
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It's a good story, though, so you should keep telling people that.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 9:41 AM
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A bachelor party thrown by Russ Meyer? Sweet christ.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 9:46 AM
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Mine was thrown by Bill Moyers. I suppose there was nothing that wrong with it, but it was a little dull.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 9:51 AM
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"Collector" and/or "archivist" are steps before curator,

The very first step is compulsive hoarder. That's where I'm stuck.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 10:13 AM
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That's where I'm stuck.

Under the collapsed stack of newspapers?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 10:41 AM
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Speaking of Russ Meyer.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 10:46 AM
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Being a curator gives you a leg up over mere content-creators.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 11:16 AM
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Man, Ebert is so fucking cool.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 11:20 AM
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Also great: In all the years I knew him, I never heard Russ Meyer say the word "fucking." Perhaps he had too devout a respect for the concept. He preferred such synonyms as "wail," "pound," "pummel," "belabor" and "conjoin," always pronounced with enthusiasm.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:23 PM
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Man, Ebert is so belabor cool.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:28 PM
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The # key is the fucking key.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:30 PM
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45: This thought may greatly enhance my future experiences dealing with elaborate voice-mail systems.


Posted by: peeo | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:41 PM
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Press fuck for more options.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:43 PM
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So that's what Sarge was always yelling at poor Beetle Bailey.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:47 PM
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Fuck at dollar sign! Fuck at dollar sign! Fuck star at percent dollars!


Posted by: OPINIONATED SERGEANT SNORKEL | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:54 PM
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Fuck star at percent dollars

Which star?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 12:55 PM
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45: I dream of one day encountering a voicemail system that tells me "Press the Octothorpe key for more options."


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 1:25 PM
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In those days, you dialed room service and a voice answered, "Greenblatt's Deli."

Now that's conjoining cool.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 1:39 PM
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Speaking of Ebert, Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is the kind of movie I don't recommend watching but I do recommend having seen.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 1:42 PM
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This thread is the first time in life I've encountered the name Russ Meyer.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:04 PM
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54 is sad. I highly recommend watching Faster, Pussycat, Kill! Kill! and Beyond The Valley of the Dolls at the first available opportunity. Which possibly contradicts Kraab, but that's okay.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:07 PM
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I don't remember which of them I tried to watch, but I thought it was unwatchable, as in I failed to finish watching it owing to it's unwatchableness.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:09 PM
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its


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:09 PM
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54: Too distracted to read the credits?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:13 PM
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I may have watched BVD ten times now. It is in rotation on IFC and I use it as eye candy (sound off) when I am online. When L'eclisse was in rotation I watched that.

BVD has Dolly Read (cute) Cynthia Meyers (double lashes on huge eyes), and Meyer at his peak of gonzo editing. Fastest jumpcuts ever, the editing is very much worth studying. Meyer got four hours of movie into 110 minutes without disturbing his audience. The craft is astonishing. Very influential movie.

I also sat through a triple feature when I was in NYC of Lorna, Vixen, and Cherry, Harry, & Raquel but I was so loaded on mescaline I don't remember very much.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:33 PM
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Yes, the editing. I only watch for the editing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:37 PM
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59:Cynthia Myers. Dec 1968


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:38 PM
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"Faster, Pussycat, Kill! Kill!" is similar to "Pink Flamingoes" in subject matter and quality, but it's a lot more enjoyable.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:42 PM
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59.2: Now that's rationalizing with finesse.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:43 PM
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61: Because Hugh also had a thing for a nice set of eyes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-13-10 2:46 PM
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