Re: USian Music

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Awesome.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:10 PM
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However, the original video seems to be wide-screen and it gets cut off on the right side when embedded.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:13 PM
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That's pretty great, but the drummer is so tense. Are all drummers that tense?


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:19 PM
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As a friend recently said to me, "Sometimes a small group of white men can change the world."


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:21 PM
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I love this.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:21 PM
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2: Proposed fix?

3: It's hard to drum and sing. I can't do it very well at all. I also can't sing well at all, so.

5: There's plenty more at teo's link at comment #2.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:32 PM
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Proposed fix?

It may not be fixable; I don't know enough about how the embedding works to say. It's not a big deal. There isn't much more to see.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:34 PM
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Speaking of white people, I learned this evening that Janine Turner, who played Maggie on Northern Exposure, is now all about the Tea Party. Fucking Alaska, man.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:42 PM
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6.1: It might be possible to fix by changing the width/height. The embed specifes width="640" height="385". What happens if you change it to 640x360?


Posted by: Suomen Radioamatööriliitto | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:43 PM
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Fucking Alaska

How does it work?! (Answer: a hefty influx of federal investment, that's how.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:44 PM
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Actually, the connection there probably should have been childhood crushes: Susanna Hoffs and Janine Turner.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:44 PM
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If it turns out that Chrissie Hynde is a birther or a truther, I'm going to be really pissed.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:45 PM
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9: Doesn't do anything for me; how 'bout you (and plus ten points for being a helpful new commenter!).


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:47 PM
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That's pretty swank.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:52 PM
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I don't see why keeping the width and decreasing the height would help its being cut off on one side.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:52 PM
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11: Have you seen Janine lately? She's . . . done bad things to herself.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 10:52 PM
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Their cover of Hocus Pocus by Focus is pretty good.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:02 PM
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Wow, did she ever. What could have possessed her to do that to her lips?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:02 PM
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16, 18: You people just can't stop hating real Americans, can you?


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:07 PM
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13:

Whoops. I didn't notice that that unfogged crops everything at 480. Try width="480" height="270" -- I tried that on a local copy and it worked for me.

BTW, there are two width/heights specified, but you only need to change the second pair, which is right before the embed closing tag.


Posted by: Suomen Radioamatööriliitto | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:09 PM
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20: solution! Someone give that Finlander a fruitbasket.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:12 PM
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Reminds me of the music of my childhood: music produced and performed of/by/for white people who don't seem quite to realize that they are white. Ottawa Valley Dance (skip the boring interview, in a yurt, apparently, between Paddy Maloney of the Chieftains and a cute British presenter who's doing her best to not make it obvious that she's phoning it in...the fun starts at 2.47, and they're really cooking wit' gas from 5:34. Yes, I can dance (or, um, "dance") like that [I even took lessons and stuff when I was a kid], but I probably won't).


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:14 PM
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The drummer was told his kids would die if he didn't put on his A-game.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:23 PM
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22: A bodhrán! A decorative one hangs shamefully on my bedroom wall, reminding me I should learn how to use the bone. Uh, laydeez.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:24 PM
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For some reason that clip reminds me of this clip, MC. Am I a bit weird? Yes, yes I am. Also, there's this: Paddy Maloney is a fucking dick. Like, the biggest dick ever. Self-promoting little weasel dick is what he is.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:26 PM
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25: There's a great story about that song:

One night, as Sam and Dave were recording, Dave had to stop and make a trip to the men's room. When Dave took a little longer than what Issac Hayes thought was necessary. He yelled at Dave to "hurry up!" Dave heard him on the speaker in the men's room and replied, "Hold on; I'm coming". With a few additions this became the title track of the album, and a hit for Sam and Dave.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:30 PM
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Also, Protip to cover bands: you can run that song right into "Soul Man" pretty much seamlessly.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:32 PM
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The other great story about that video is that because Sam and Dave killed it every night on the Stax-Volt tour, Otis Redding, who was headlining, apparently began to refuse to play after them.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:39 PM
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Am I a bit weird?

Well, no, I don't think so, Ari. The parallel seems obvious to me (but I may be a bit weird, too, of course). I'm a bit puzzled by your egyptological hostility to Mr. Maloney, though: he just seems like your basic glad-hander to me; what am I missing?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:42 PM
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I was once a back-up singer for The Chieftains. True fact.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 6-10 11:46 PM
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30: What, really? When? Did you meet Derek Bell? I'm a (seriously, now, and unapologetically, and not at all, or not very, ironically) fangirl of his. But he's been dead for a number of years.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:05 AM
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It was about 12 years ago. They had a couple numbers on their touring program that called for a small chorus (one was "Shenandoah"), and they hired locally rather than tour with the 8 or 10 extra personnel. The guy who was asked to put it together was a friend I sang with at the time, and he recruited me. We didn't meet them, but Bell was with them then.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:19 AM
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re: 22

Verity Sharp, she presents a lot of arts programming, and is one of the co-presenters on a very good eclectic late night radio programme.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_junction


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:41 AM
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If it turns out that Chrissie Hynde is a birther or a truther, I'm going to be really pissed.

Wouldn't surprise me. Dumb creationist eedjit.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:53 AM
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For her sins, Ms. Turner has recently appeared in the following unfortunately named movies:

The Night of the White Pants
Christoga - Christian Yoga
Primal Doubt


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 6:28 AM
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12: Isn't Chrissie Hynde a vegan? I think she doesn't even eat bees.

35: She was also on at least one season of Friday Night Lights, alas. I just started seez IV so perhaps she will be darkening my perceptual door again.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:31 AM
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Where on earth is everyone? Has the Hermine deluge we're currently experiencing in TX brought down the intertubes?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:09 AM
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37:I'm here, Kraab. Just back from walking the dogs. It was wet, but very nice.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:13 AM
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37: I had to be in a thing training some new hires, which thing has been stressing me for like a week. I just got back. It went very well. I successfully punted the PowerPoint presentation that had been used in years prior and cut the training time in half, which probably gets me on this week's list of nominees for History's Greatest Heroes.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:23 AM
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Eggplant checking in. I don't have anything interesting to say, as I am struck dumb by the Democrats almost magical ability to spin straw from gold, and I don't think anyone wants that conversation again.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:27 AM
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I'm trying to form a deeply held view of the politicial economy of Egypt's Old Kingdom.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:37 AM
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41. Sir, I salute your indefatigability.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:44 AM
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Re: the Republican primary in Delaware for Biden's Senate seat, Tea Partier Christine O'Donnell is generating plenty of support:

"I'd do anything for you," declared Mr. Bentz, 39, a project manager for an office furniture company.

But will he stop masturbating for her?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:48 AM
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Why, has she died?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:51 AM
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42: I'm a bit heavy, but I'm not "fat" fat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:52 AM
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40: I know I'm treading on Bob Mcmanus' turf here, but the Dems have been pushing the "GOP majority in the House is inevitable" line so hard that I'm genuinely unable to come up with any explanation other than they want to lose.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:57 AM
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44: "For," not "to." See:

The Bible says that lust in your heart is committing adultery. So you can't masturbate without lust.

and

The reason that you don't tell [people] that masturbation is the answer to AIDS and all these other problems that come with sex outside of marriage is because again it is not addressing the issue. ... You're just gonna create somebody who is, I was gonna say, toying with his sexuality. Pardon the pun.

(I do give her props for the pun.)


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:00 AM
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But will he stop masturbating for her?

Death wishes seem a bit extreme, Kraab. Just to maintain the site's civility equilibrium, I'm going to masturbate to her right now. Back in a bit.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:00 AM
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I didn't preview in time to see 47.1, but I'm not going to let a little detail like that get in the way of anything.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:02 AM
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Five, four, three, two, one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:03 AM
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42 to 49.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:04 AM
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but the Dems have been pushing the "GOP majority in the House is inevitable" line so hard that I'm genuinely unable to come up with any explanation other than they want to lose.

I've had this same thought.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:30 AM
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Before Suomen and donaquixote settle on their online names, I'd like to note that the Dr. Seuss story "Too Many Daves" is an excellent source of pseudonyms.

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Posted by: Zanzibar Buck Buck McFate | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 9:30 AM
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Cleopatra and Hakim recorded a cover of "Walk Like An Egyptian" that was a huge hit among belly dancers.

I prefer the Rachid Taha or Solar Twins covers of "Rock the Casbah"


Posted by: JennyRobot | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 10:01 AM
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"Rock the Casbah"

A song forever ruined for me by a cow-orker implanting the lyrics "Lock the Taskbar" as he, you know, locked the taskbar.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 10:04 AM
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55: Stanlif don't like it?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 10:11 AM
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46, 52: I would almost prefer that be true, as it would imply the Democrats were capable of achieving a goal.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 10:14 AM
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46, 52:
Expectation management? Attempting to control the narrative? ("This is what happens the two years after a president is elected" rather than "This is a referendum on the Democrats' policies and on Obama.")


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 11:40 AM
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53: I agree!


Posted by: Dave | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:43 PM
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|| Apropos of nothing, but Christ has Warsaw housing gotten expensive. The average price per m2 (10.7 ft2) in the central district is about $5500, about $3000 in the surrounding districts, and $1500-2500 out in the boonies. Average salaries in Warsaw are very high by Polish standards, but that still only works out to about $20K for the average full time job.>|


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:54 PM
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Is that for new houses in Warsaw or for those hideous flats?


Posted by: JennyRobot | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 12:58 PM
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New apartments in and around Warsaw. The stats for houses in the burbs are presented differently so you can't get an average but it looks like they run between around a quarter million dollars (cheap house in a cheap suburb) and $800K (expensive homes in Konstancin).

The stats are here if you're curious.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 1:07 PM
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Average salaries in Warsaw are very high by Polish standards, but that still only works out to about $20K for the average full time job

Holy mackerel, are you serious? Really?

That does put a new light on some of the EU labor-mobility griping.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:05 PM
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62.2: I was curious, but not curious enough to learn Polish. Also, a quarter of a million will get you one of the the nicest houses in Pittsburgh's Polish Hill neighborhood.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:09 PM
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Polish Hill

Let me guess: it's actually in a valley; that's the joke. Buncha jerks.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:13 PM
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I don't mean to interrupt Stanley's run of puns and what-not, but:

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Actual data on the "Does the NYT review more male authors than female authors?" question that was discussed here the other day.

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We now return you to your regularly scheduled wordplay.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:15 PM
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It's a hill, or part of a hill. It isn't a very big area, but it seems nice enough. It is supposed to be in the pre-gentrification phase, except that it was never very dangerous.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:16 PM
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67 to 65. Thanks for the interruption.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:18 PM
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Why are you shocked? Polish salaries have skyrocketed over the past fifteen years, but it was a very, very poor country by Western standards at the end of communism. Per capita GDP (PPP) was about half that of Mexico in 1990. Inequality was far lower, but even with half-way decent income distribution there wasn't much to spread around.

People lived in tiny apartments (e.g. upper middle class two professionals plus kid in a 500 sq. ft place) mostly had no cars, had few appliances, could not afford meat on a regular basis, etc. And that's in the cities. In the countryside large swathes of the population were basically subsistence farmers living off a few acres of land, a couple cows, and some chickens (and if lucky they had some relatives abroad who sent them cash, like my rural relatives).


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:24 PM
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Just by comparison, PPP GDP per capita in Poland is now about fifty percent higher than Mexico, and while inequality has grown, Poland's still better on that count.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:32 PM
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69: I dunno, I guess it was just ignorance. I have a vague sense of Poland having been a place with exceptionally high unemployment, out-of-date infrastructure, and real issues around education. Still, I think I'd have pegged avg FT salary in a city as more like $30K.

I'm trying to think whether it's my international-affairs reading or personal experience that's more to blame. I think it's the former -- strike one for reading enough that I *thought* I was decently well informed. Mea culpa.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:33 PM
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I'm still missing something. 69 and 70 actually make things less clear for me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 7:34 PM
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you have to look at how incredibly unequal mexico's division of wealth is, I think. not as bad as US though, I think?


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:02 PM
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"People lived in tiny apartments (e.g. upper middle class two professionals plus kid in a 500 sq. ft place) mostly had no cars, had few appliances, could not afford meat on a regular basis, etc."

That more or less describes how a branch of my family in Krakow lives now, except that they're more accurately described as working class.

71.1: I don't believe that education has been a big problem in Poland, at least not compared to the infrastructure and employment issues.


Posted by: JennyRobot | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:14 PM
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73: Huh. I was under the impression that it was significantly worse in Mexico, but Mexico's Gini coefficient has been dropping and ours rising, and they've nearly converged.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:19 PM
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73: Gini coefficients:

Mexico - 53.1 (1998), 48.2 (2008)

US - 40.8 (1997), 45.0 (2007)

At this rate, Mexico could be less unequal by 2012.

Also, Poland - 31.6 (1998), 34.9 (2005)


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:20 PM
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McPwned.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:20 PM
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Education is good to very good in urban areas, variable in small towns, and often not existent at all beyond elementary school in rural Poland. Access to higher education is also de-facto location/class based. Places in the 'day', that is free sections of the public universities is very competitive and you still have to live some place in the city. If you're poor but already there, you just live at home; if you're not from somewhere with a university and you're parents can't help out, you're fucked.

That more or less describes how a branch of my family in Krakow lives now, except that they're more accurately described as working class.

Sounds about right, though most employed working class households in urban areas do have a car these days. In general, for those who are employed things have gotten much better since communism. Rural areas have suffered a lot, but EU membership has helped considerably over the past few years. Most retirees and those unemployed who can't or don't want to go abroad are in pretty horrible shape.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 09- 7-10 8:26 PM
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56: A song forever ruined for me by a cow-orker implanting the lyrics "Lock the Taskbar" as he, you know, locked the taskbar.

I do that!


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 09- 8-10 12:07 AM
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