Re: Not Actually A Joke

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Also, if anyone has Halford's email address, or can remember any other CA lawyers who comment and know their addresses (unimaginative is a CA lawyer, right?), that'd be a help as well.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:08 PM
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None of the attorneys I know are criminal defense. (Just criminals). I would be happy to contact any of them to ask for a referral, if you want.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:12 PM
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Thanks -- let me hold off on that until I see if anyone knows someone firsthand. Is your linked email good?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:17 PM
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yep


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:19 PM
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(To anyone who's worrying, we made contact with a bail bondsman and posted bail. I've never posted bail for anyone before. So I think that means he'll be out of jail tonight or tomorrow morning, and finding a lawyer isn't immediately urgent -- more a matter of getting one before whenever his court date is.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:36 PM
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Just sent you a message. I'm not very well plugged into the criminal bar, particularly up North, but I sent you one name and will ask around for others. Good luck.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:36 PM
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You and Buck are good friends. I assume we can get an interesting post out of this someday?


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:38 PM
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If there's a good story to be had, maybe. This kid getting arrested is way, way, way out of character -- enough that Buck thought the collect call from jail was a joke. There could be a 'jackbooted thugs abusing innocent travelers' thing going on, but we don't know what the story is at all.

And I love you guys. Three referrals in half an hour, which should be plenty. This blog is my security blanket: something goes wrong, Unfogged will fix it!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:46 PM
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7: I think she's married to Buck, so "good friends" seems a bit off the point.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:46 PM
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Well, we've considered our history together the equivalent of a formal introduction.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:53 PM
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This blog is my security blanket: something goes wrong, Unfogged will fix it!

Just don't ever ask its commenters to participate in a collaborative song-recording project.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:55 PM
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I think she's married to Buck, so "good friends" seems a bit off the point.

Maybe when they were first married, but two kids later, who knows?

Sex in marriage:

Phase one: Anywhere and everywhere sex. As implied.

Phase two: Hallway sex. Muttering "Fuck you" as you pass each other in the hallway.

Phase three: Courtroom sex. Fucking each other by proxy, sometimes known as family law attorneys.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:57 PM
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Good luck to your friend. He's traveling? I kinda assume Buck's gotta be the person in the area he's closest to, as he called him from jail...I'm wondering if he'll be staying with you. If you do plan on having continued contact w the unfortunate jailbird, just, you know, be sensitive? Jail is apparently traumatizing. I say this bc I once posted quite a bit of bail money for someone, and made the mistake of trying to lighten the mood when I went to pick him up. TOO SOON. We no longer speak. He kind of hates me.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 4:59 PM
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Oh, I got nothing on the lawyer front.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:00 PM
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Waitaminute. Waitaminute. LB doesn't live in SF...


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:02 PM
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12-- you gave your friend a crack pipe as he was walking out of his cell?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:03 PM
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We're pretty close -- Buck's known him since he was two or three, and I've known him since thirteen or so. But he won't need a place to stay or anything once he gets home from SF. He's going to need a plane ticket back to CA for his next court date, which will be seriously shitty for the poor guy, but nothing to be done about it.

I will take your warning under advisement, and not make jokes about him.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:05 PM
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Well. At the time I didn't know he was being charged with something so insanely serious (thanks, since-investigated Suffolk Co DA!), and my manner might have been...inappropriate. Also, you never know what they had to deal with in there. Could be hilarious, could be tragic? Let them set the tone, would be my advice for any aspiring bail posters.

In addition: way cute, that you and Buck have known each other (one assumes) forever. Waaay cute.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:39 PM
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In retrospect, I'm thankful that I didn't go with my initial thought, which was to bring balloons and a cake. Apparently a goofy grin, two thumbs up, and a jig were inappropriate enough.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:42 PM
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This blog is my security blanket: something goes wrong, Unfogged will fix it!

Doesn't that mean the post title should have been in orange?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 5:46 PM
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and not make jokes about him.

If you do make a joke, probably try for something topical like asking if they tried to carry on 4.2 ounces of shampoo.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:06 PM
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18: Only fifteen years in December, but that's long enough for an adorable teenager to grow up and get in trouble with the law.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:20 PM
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I'm a PA lawyer, not a CA lawyer, so not much use. Although my firm has sued various governments for malicious prosecution of the innocent, and for conditions of incarceration for the guilty. . . .


Posted by: Unimaginative | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:40 PM
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Do you need me to drive down there and bail him out? If so, just let me know.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:41 PM
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I suppose I could have read the thread, but it somehow seemed urgent that I let you all know immediately how very self-sacrificing I am. Anyway, glad he's out. I've called a few friends in San Mateo to warn them that there are criminals afoot tonight.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:42 PM
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From donaquixote:

Jail is apparently traumatizing.

And from LB:

This kid getting arrested is way, way, way out of character

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who has done a night in jail, but one of the most "traumatizing" things about it is the assumption you have that everyone thinks you're guilty of something - even if it's only antagonizing a cop unnecessarily.

So LB, if you want my advice, keep in mind that getting arrested really isn't "out of character" for anyone. Police have a vast amount of discretion, especially when it comes to something like pulling a person off the street and locking them up overnight.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:42 PM
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11: Shit. Sorry.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:48 PM
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Just don't ever ask its commenters to participate in a collaborative song-recording project.

Who the hell has that thing? k-sky?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:49 PM
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24, 25: The offer is very much appreciated, even though we don't need it as it turns out. Any of your friends get arrested in NY and need help, I'm there.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:52 PM
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26: Good point. Knowing nothing except what this guy is like, my guess is that the real gravamen of the offense was something like exasperated eyerolling.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 6:56 PM
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29: I don't know, LB. If the recent meetup experience is instructive, ari's all hat and no cattle when it comes to offers to drive to the Bay Area.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:01 PM
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Do you need me to drive down there and bail him out? If so, just let me know.

You'll come down here for that but not for a meetup? Hmph.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:02 PM
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Goddammit.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:02 PM
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I'll drive just about anywhere to help a hardened criminal who's a friend of a friend. But if Josh is going to be there, count me out.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:08 PM
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What if tell you there'll be sheep?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:20 PM
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Er, "if I tell you".


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 7:21 PM
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Many people have the song-in-progress, right, and could record their contributions? Last I saw, only three people or so had contributed tracks. I feel guilty about it, too.


Posted by: Bave Dee | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 8:45 PM
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I have a bleg - not sure this is the right place to put it if this post is going to be disappeared soon, but I'll go for it.

My little sister is currently doing a study abroad in France, and she's going to be meeting up with a friend doing a study abroad in England at the end of their term, before heading home. They'll start and end in London, but are going to head out for 10 days of travel. They need a place to stash their giant bags in the interim. Suggestions, from my more worldly travelers or London residents?


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 8:52 PM
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Not sure about London, but I stashed my bags at a locker depot in Malaga for a week. It was at either the bus or train station - I'm not sure. Did the same in Plzen. It was years ago (2003?) and was, I want to say, euro 25 for the week in Malaga. In any case, I've found Europe a much easier place to stash bags than stateside since 9/11.


Posted by: Alfrek Macsteinie | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 9:30 PM
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39 sounds right. I've never stored bags in London, or anywhere for more than four days, but most large train stations in Europe have left luggage facilities. It's not like New York where you can't leave a bag anywhere because of TEH TERROR!1!!!.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 9:39 PM
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Thanks, 39 and 40. That was my first thought as well, but I haven't done something similar since 2002, and I was thinking that perhaps the bus attacks (in 07? Man, I can't remember) had changed things. IOW, I could google, but I went the easy route.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 9:43 PM
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Paren, I had to look into this recently. Check here.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 10-11-10 9:48 PM
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London is unreliable for bag stashing. Usually there are places in stations etc. as per, but from time to time the powers that be decide that the police budget is less than they'd like there are some terrorists in Afganistan, and close them all with much fanfare.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-12-10 4:19 AM
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