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I seem to recall from my 70s-era Omni magazine reading and scare-science bookmobile purchases that the Killer! Bees! would rise from Texas. And so it begins.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:26 AM
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I'm pretty sure you should head to the gym and turn off the heating. That's what Hollywood told me.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:28 AM
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2: Oooh! That one works for the Blob, too. If Heebie U. ever gets one of those.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:29 AM
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How does being in the gym stop bees? Or the Blob? (I get the help from lack of heat.)


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:32 AM
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This is Texas, right? Aren't there barbecue pits like every 10 feet? Smoke those little fuckers into laconic bliss. Plus: lunch.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:35 AM
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You don't eat the Blob.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:36 AM
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Call Nicolas Cage and Neil LaBute?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:36 AM
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Also, I am amused that the text message didn't provide any actual useful suggestions about what to, you know, do. Just...be scared? "Something is happening! EVERYBODY PANIC!" seems like a poor use of a University-wide text.


Posted by: donaquixote | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:40 AM
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When the G-20 was in Pittsburgh, they texted everyone at the unversity with a message that basically said, "Don't go check out the possibly super cool riots and may be starting near the plaza. Use caution and stay shut away because the riot police don't have enough tear gas for everybody."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:43 AM
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There's no getting through to you young lady, is there?


Posted by: יהוה | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:43 AM
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s/b "that may be starting"


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:44 AM
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9: A FOAF was a radio DJ at one of the early pioneers in private broadcasting in Russia during the coup in 1991. The soldiers who commandeered his radio station kept the station on the air to project an image or normalcy, but stationed armed guards in the broadcast studio to keep the station from broadcasting any kind of anti-coup content.

So this DJ continues to play music, recites the weather report, then commences with the traffic report. He sort of lulled the guards into boredom by reciting the customary roadworks and what-not, and then -- summoning a kind of courage I doubt I would ever possess -- said something to the effect of "Motorists should give a wide berth to the area around the Parliament building, where massive demonstrations are severely disrupting traffic.

His minders never even noticed what he had done.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:52 AM
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Advice: if Vada asks you to help her find her mood ring in the woods DON'T DO IT.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 10:54 AM
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So do the bees look more like John Belushi or Elliot Gould ?


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:00 AM
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13: I had to google that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:03 AM
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I had to Google the name line in 10. I would try at an Obama joke to the OP, but it seems too obvious to be worth the bother.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:10 AM
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You'll catch more bees with vaseline than with butter.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:16 AM
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17: More VDs, too.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:19 AM
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have to assume one of you all scaredy-cats desired that these bees would visit my campus, but I haven't yet divined your ulterior motive.

Look, we all knew it was a bad idea to piss Megan off. And we went and did it, and she left, and now we see what happens.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:42 AM
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Basically what I'm saying is: Don't fuck with people who can control swarms of bees.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:43 AM
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1: and scare-science bookmobile purchases that the Killer! Bees! would rise from Texas.

Didn't the really bad movie with Michael Caine that might have been titled The Killer Bees have the killer bees invading Houston?

OK, the movie was called The Swarm.

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Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:53 AM
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The time to get scared is when that swarm takes the form of a Nazi made of bees.

(I think I've linked this here before, but who cares? It's a Nazi made of bees!)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:56 AM
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22: Haha. Yes, I remember The Swarm, but I was thinking about those little paperback anthologies about "unexplained phenomena," which were a major part of my reading in 1978. The chapters could be about ESP/telekinesis/past lives type stuff or nature turning against us type stuff, like killer bees, and the coming Ice Age. (I don't know where the plants hooked up to lie detectors and catching murderers fit in.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 11:57 AM
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23 to 21, it appears. Is that book on "the coming Ice Age" where all these right-wing propagandists get their anti-climate-science material?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:00 PM
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22: The Deadly Bees was always the biggest grosser in my HS's lunchtime movie series (aka nerds showing movies to nerds).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:02 PM
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25: Stormcrow! Do you remember! What was it that made the return of the Ice Age a "thing" in the 70s? It was peddled in my lurid pop not-even-science kiddie books, but was there some actual adult book pushing it, too?


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:05 PM
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Wasn't The Swarm based loosely on fear-mongering news reports of the era?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:05 PM
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The chapters could be about ESP/telekinesis/past lives type stuff or nature turning against us type stuff, like killer bees, and the coming Ice Age.

I think one of my classrooms had a complete set of Time Life Books of mysterious phenomenon or something. Somehow all the same topics.

The pyramids! Easter Island! Killer bees! A lady fell out of a helicopter with no parachute, bounced twice, and lived to tell about it!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:09 PM
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The Swarm, which I've never seen, appears to have one of the greatest, or possibly most bizarre, casts ever assembled. Ahhhhh, 1970s disaster movies:

Michael Caine ... Brad Crane
Katharine Ross ... Helena
Richard Widmark ... Gen. Slater
Richard Chamberlain ... Dr. Hubbard
Olivia de Havilland ... Maureen
Ben Johnson ... Felix
Lee Grant ... Anne MacGregor
José Ferrer ... Dr. Andrews (as Jose Ferrer)
Patty Duke ... Rita (as Patty Duke Astin)
Slim Pickens ... Jud Hawkins
Bradford Dillman ... Maj. Baker
Fred MacMurray ... Clarence
Henry Fonda ... Dr. Walter Krim


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:10 PM
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28: Edgar Cayce! Bridey Murphy! The Bermuda Triangle!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:12 PM
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29: Holy crap. I just downloaded Mega-Shark Versus Giant Octopus, but that may have to wait.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:13 PM
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My favorite cast is from Domino.


Posted by: Crytic ned | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:15 PM
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30 continued: Erich von Däniken!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:17 PM
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Keira Knightley ... Domino Harvey
Mickey Rourke ... Ed Moseby
Delroy Lindo ... Claremont Williams
Mo'Nique ... Lateesha Rodriguez
Mena Suvari ... Kimmie
Macy Gray ... Lashandra Davis
Jacqueline Bisset ... Sophie Wynn
Dabney Coleman ... Drake Bishop
Brian Austin Green ... Himself
Lucy Liu ... Taryn Mills
Christopher Walken ... Mark Heiss
Tom Waits ... Wanderer
Erich von Däniken ... Hiccuping waiter


Posted by: Crytic ned | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:19 PM
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26: What was it that made the return of the Ice Age a "thing" in the 70s?

Well, from about WWII through the 70s there seemed to be a minor global cooling trend based on some relatively early attempts to really put together global temperature data and there was some sloppy and sensationalistic media pickup on that. Plus there were some brutal snowy winters in the Eastern US around then. I think the book that pushed it the most was The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age but it looks like that only came out in 1977. There is good discussion of the whole thing on the Global Cooling Wikipedia page. It has been controversial recently with some of the climate hacks claiming that it was the scientific consensus at the time, which it wasn't.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:22 PM
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33: My biology teacher in Junior High was an advocate of the crazy lost continent of Mu theories. I think He got me to buy three or four of the nutty James Churchward books.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:25 PM
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I showed The Muppet Movie to my two little ones this past weekend. I hadn't seen it since I was a kid myself, but that was quite a cast.

Unrelatedly, all Tom Bosley-related self-pleasuring should cease immediately.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:25 PM
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That title clearly belongs to the Transformers animated movie:
Peter Cullen
Judd Nelson
Orson Welles
Leonard Nimoy
Robert Stack
Neil Ross
Susan Blu
Frank Welker
Lionel Stander
Gregg Berger
Michael Bell
Paul Eiding
Eric Idle
David Mendenhall


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:27 PM
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Edgar Bergen was alive when they made The Muppet Movie?!? That's more astonishing than The Old Gringo, starring Gregory Peck and Jimmy Smits.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:28 PM
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THE LOST CONTINENT OF MU PPET IS REAL.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:29 PM
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Erich von Däniken -- wow! I looked him up and he's still alive and apparently still promoting his aliens built the pyramids, etc. theories. In seventh grade one kid in my class very seriously believed in von Däniken's theories. I chanced upon him a few years ago commenting on a blog -- now he's an economics professor, a big defender of the Austrian school, one of those guys that gets in furious arguments with the Berkeley economist. Maybe he still believes in von Däniken too.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:30 PM
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Although it would have been more astonishing if Jimmy Smits played the old gringo.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:31 PM
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There was a paper providing strong support for existence of Milankovic cycles that was published in the late 70s. Ice cores. Before that, people did not know much about prehistoric temperature variation and theories about causes were even wackier, since there was so little data.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:35 PM
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Caligula had a great cast, but I can't look it up because it's too depressing. John Gielgud, Peter O'Toole, Helen Mirren, WTF were you thinking?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:38 PM
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41: A favorite Sagan quote: Von Däniken sees the intervention of extraterrestrials in everything he doesn't understand, and he seems to understand nothing so everywhere he looks he sees evidence of extraterrestrials.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:39 PM
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44 is so true. I assume that Peter O'Toole was thinking "I am really, really drunk" but the motivations of others are mysterious.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:42 PM
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44: Curious about seeing other cast members naked?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:44 PM
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44. 46. Malcolm McDowell said they were making an epic, then Guccione added the porn. I think that epics are harder to pull off than people realize, and Guccione added the porn to get his money back.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:45 PM
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44: Curious about seeing other cast members naked?

If they all were, they could have made some kind of arrangement that didn't require making a movie. Probably would have had more fun that way.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:49 PM
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49; Sure, but they might have been too shy to do that on their own.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 12:52 PM
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there is an active swarm of Africanized bees on campus.

Let's see the birth certificates.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 1:05 PM
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Edgar Cayce! Bridey Murphy! The Bermuda Triangle!

Biorhythms! Pyramid Power! Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln!


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 1:22 PM
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26: Are you thinking of nuclear winter? That mananged to scare me as a child, even though I never really understood the giant nuclear war prerequisite, which would have scared me even more.


Posted by: Carl | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 1:53 PM
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Biorhythms! Pyramid Power! Kennedy had a secretary named Lincoln!

Oak Island! The Lizard King lives! Paul is dead!


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 1:54 PM
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Does anybody else remember the Burt Reynolds telephone card urban legend /fiasco? It was so stupid, maybe I made it up.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 1:56 PM
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55: I heard of the rest, but not that one.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:24 PM
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55: The Encyclopedia of Urban Legends remembers it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:25 PM
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57: What it doesn't say is that people were circulating a number that was supposed to be the credit card number that you could use to make free long distance calls. This may seem strange to the young 'uns but in 1981 for kids starting college free long distance phone calls was a big deal. A bunch of kids in my dorm bought the whole crazy story and used the number to make supposedly free long distance phone calls. Eventually they were caught and had to pay for the calls.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:34 PM
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I can remember when you had to pay for local calls, unless you were Burt Reynolds or were calling somebody else on campus.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:36 PM
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Actually, I can't. Unlimited local calling happened when I was in high school.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:36 PM
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My teenage shenanigans involving payphones was limited to calling that number you could dial that made the payphone ring, like, 30 seconds after you called it. Then you watched some dope answer the phone—but there was no one calling! Ho-ho!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:40 PM
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I assume that Peter O'Toole was thinking "I am really, really drunk"....

"I drink now. But not like before. Christ, who could?"


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 2:44 PM
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19: Wait -- is Megan gone because one of you lot drove her off?


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 3:01 PM
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The coming ice age, 1958.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 3:05 PM
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Per LB, she decided after the last Bob fracas to give Unfogged a rest. Thus making many of us sad.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 3:07 PM
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after the last Bob fracas

That's the 2nd time this week it was described this way.

Was this Fight Club, Unfogged edition? Did I have a fracas with myself?

Lurking has not made the heart grow fonder.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 3:47 PM
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Lurking has not made the heart grow fonder.

Huh. I wonder why they always say that then.

Skulking makes the heart grow fonder? Stalking? Sneaking? Something.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 3:52 PM
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Alfalfa seed makes the heartland grow fodder.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:01 PM
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Not about me.

Why, Halford, was "Megan found the atmosphere at Unfogged uncongenial" not possible?

Did your phrasing give you some kind of particular physical or emotional pleasure?

67:Stop talking about me, sadists. Cease the gratuitous insults and defamation.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:11 PM
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65: Awww! This makes me very sad. Especially when I have active grudges to nurture. No one understood that kind of thing the way Megan understood.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:12 PM
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(To be clear, none of these active grudges relate in any manner to bob or to any other unfogged fracas past, present or contemplated.)


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:15 PM
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69: Stop talking about me, sadists. Cease the gratuitous insults and defamation.

I've actually founded a McManus Discussion Group out in my neck of the woods where we speculate about your medications and whether or not you rape squirrels. You saying you're not okay with that?


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:24 PM
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Bob, just referring to the event that seemed to be the triggering point. Personally, I hate it when people leave, including both Megan and you.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:34 PM
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I wonder if any human has ever in fact successfully raped a squirrel. Sure doesn't seem easy.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:42 PM
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Bob, Whenever you delurk it's like the return of the Unf'ed repressed.

I'm sure some people miss you, btw. I certainly do.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:46 PM
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I think you'd have to use tools.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:46 PM
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74: They probably wiggle around something fierce, it's true. Of course, I'm not saying Bob's found a way around that. I'm just not denying it, either.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:47 PM
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(Like, when someone comes up and asks me, "Does that McManus guy rape squirrels?" I'm all like: "Meh. *shrug* Maybe, maybe not. Hard to say.")


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:54 PM
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You're assuming that the squirrels are unwilling, DS. You may be right, but there is one near my office that keeps giving me the eye.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:57 PM
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They probably wiggle around something fierce, it's true.

Not if you lace their acorns with Rohypnol. Or, uh, so I've heard.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 4:58 PM
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79: I think we've all been there. Truly the temptress of the northern woodland, the squirrel. So one possible theory is that Bob succumbed to just such blandishments, one thing led to another, et voila.

80: That's the other possible theory.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 5:07 PM
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Hey! Megan wanted moderation around here! I mean. Snort.

Just doing my part to spread the aspersions around .... And hi, Bob.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 5:38 PM
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Sorry, folks I'm trolling Kotsko this month.

He has a Monday Movie thread that he usually starts with Godard and gets two comments about True Blood and one about Bruce Willis. So I'm filling it up with a daily Yasujiro Ozu review. (Tokyo No Koruso 1931, is the key film. Explains everything.)

Japanese Cinema, and me, seems to have brought read back to Kotsko's place.

Just, you know, LB's "Have Mercy on Foreclosure Mills" post made my brain explode and broke my resolve.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 5:48 PM
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Thor Heyerdahl! Zener cards! Uri Geller!


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 5:48 PM
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Oh, sorry about the italics up there.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 5:51 PM
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If the thoughts in the To-1000! thread are going to turn somewhat political, I'd like to threadjack this one in a political direction. The 1000 thread is long and creaky. Sorry.

Massachusettsians! Apparently Barney Frank is having trouble? Can anyone who is able, not just those in Mass., contribute to him? We need this guy.

You can help via Act Blue, if you're able. I trust we can all click through from there. It's very straightforward -- you can target your donation to selected candidates if you wish. Or just give directly to Frank's campaign without going through Act Blue.

We do, all, need Barney Frank to retain his seat over his challenger.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:32 PM
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Addendum: Maybe Frank's okay. I became alarmed. My home state! Barney Frank! Massachusetts turned weird over Scott Brown. But maybe it's okay.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:51 PM
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What if he wins, but gets swarmed by Africanized bees?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:53 PM
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If Barney Frank loses that race, I'll wrestle a bear or eat glass or whatever all else you want. And really, if you want to give money to an endangered Democratic congressmen outside of your home district (unless you're Stanley), give it to Tom Periello.


Posted by: ari | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:54 PM
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I'm all freaked out about the midterm elections here, Moby. Buying gold bullion and attacks by killer bees aren't really on the radar. Harrumph.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:57 PM
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89: Word is nobody should bother giving money (outside their state) to endangered congresspeople anyway: focus on the Senate. There's a point there.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 8:59 PM
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Huh? The Republicans could, but are unlikely to turn the Senate, and your dollar goes further and is generally needed more in house races. Nate Silver has a good list.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:02 PM
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Any Congressional election is unlikely to be close enough that your vote matters. But having an EpiPen when the swarm hits, that might save a life.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:04 PM
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89: Perriello (ahem) was feisty in the debate tonight, and he seems to have a fighting chance. (For starters, his GOP opponent actually shows up at the debates now, realizing it's not going to be a walk.)

You can also give money directly to me, and I promise to host a really great victory and/or commiseration party for people in Virginia's Fifth District.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:09 PM
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That said, I'm not sure I could jab myself with a needle while I've nearly mastered the new touch screen voting.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:09 PM
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I was trying to talk to myself here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:10 PM
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Oh, I, um. Oh, man. Geez. Sorry. I should have knocked, Moby.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:12 PM
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This morning, I saw the city work crew in the park pulling down Pat Toomey signs. If they bothered, it must be close.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:17 PM
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92: It's not really a question of turning the Senate, is it? More a question of how much of a Senate majority the Dems retain.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:17 PM
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Kobe!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:23 PM
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You noticed while doing a front page post. Alertness.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-19-10 9:25 PM
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I thought "killer bees!!!" were some sort of Reaganite myth? The death panels of 1985?


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 1:52 AM
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No, the freakout about the Killer Bees happened during the middle and late 70's IIRC. It was enough of a freakout that they took about a book about killer bees and made a movie about it (The Swarm above), which was possibly one of the worst movies ever made. I know, I saw the thing in the theatres when I was like 10 and boy, was that a really bad movie.

Apparently you can't get the 114 minute version I saw at the movies and instead you can get the 156 minute version which, conceivably, might actually be an improvement. Doesn't seem like likely. It might be worth watching for its awesome badness but I doubt it.

Ooo! I found The Swarm trailer on Youtube. It sounds like something out of the 50's except they're all wearing leisure suits! (Oh, hey, they've also got an Orca trailer (man, that was bad) and Empire of the Ants.)

54: Nuclear winter, on the other hand, was a big thing starting in 1983 or 1984 (I think) when someone published a paper. The Union of Concerned Scientists publicized the hell out of it, and that became part of the background zeitgeist in which we were all doomed. It was supposed to be scary because the Russians could get into it with the Chinese with nukes and we'd all freeze even if we weren't at war. They had a lot of trouble getting that point across so nuclear winter sort of blended together with the general horrors of nuclear war.

35: Well, from about WWII through the 70s there seemed to be a minor global cooling trend based on some relatively early attempts to really put together global temperature data and there was some sloppy and sensationalistic media pickup on that.

Asimov wrote an essay on the science of climate in the 50's (I think it was the 50's might have been published in the early 60's) predicting that we'd have a couple decades of cooler weather based on I forget what exactly. (I remember the essay pretty clearly because I read it in the 70's when it appeared to have come true, but good luck finding the thing.) The meteorologists really did find a short-term cooling trend but they blew that all out of proportion.

Plus there were some brutal snowy winters in the Eastern US around then.

There were some brutal winters in Texas right about then. Six inches of ice on the ground in the winter of '79. I remember newspaper and TV people kept wondering if were entering a new ice age. That's probably what the denialists remember.

max
['I wonder if we're going to have another really nasty winter this year?']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 4:05 AM
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92: Huh? The Republicans could, but are unlikely to turn the Senate, and your dollar goes further and is generally needed more in house races.

I think that's generally true but I bet Harry Reid, Jack Conway, and Sestak could use the money. I'm sure reps in house races could ALL use the money though.

Bleh. We're outnumbered by the swarm of mulitnational cash this time kids.

max
['Give til you bleed sting.']


Posted by: max | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 4:26 AM
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86: IMHO the Barney Frank race is at an optimal level of closeness: just close enough that the Teabaggers scent blood and waste their Social Security and farm subsidy checks sending money to his opponent, but not so close that he's at any real risk of losing. And if Barney does lose, then it will likely be in the context of a 70-80 seat tsunami anyway.

Ari gets it right: give to Tom Periello, who, in addition to being in a nail-bitingly close race, is actually more symbolically important than Frank. Periello is unapologetically running on his voting record in a conservative-leaning district. He's selling the Dem platform in a tough district. If he loses, the infuriating tendency of Dems to try to win in swing districts by pretending to be Republicans will only be reinforced. Something similar applies to Alan Grayson in Florida, but he looks like he might already be toast. So Periello it is.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 5:37 AM
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I was trying to talk to myself here.

Oh, I, um. Oh, man. Geez. Sorry. I should have knocked, Moby.

Now I've got

I don't want anybody else,
When I think about you I talk to myself...

going through my head. I'm thinking it's about a platonic relationship where the conversation is really great.



Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 7:31 AM
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But, you know, she's far away from him, so what's a girl to do...


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 7:37 AM
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Well, she could phone, I guess.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 7:38 AM
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Or maybe he's dead! Poignant!


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-20-10 7:46 AM
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This just in. Apparently you can kill the killer bees right back with a clear conscience. So there's that.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-21-10 4:18 AM
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