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Rory informed me that she had about that many last month. I can't even begin to imagine.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 9:58 AM
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Anyone who suggests counting numbers of comments left here in a typical month will be banned.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:03 AM
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Are a lot of the messages things like "LOL" and such? You could drag an exchange into a dozen or more texts doing that. Just look at the length of many unfogged threads.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:05 AM
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Oops.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:05 AM
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LOL


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:06 AM
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3: Yep. Not so much with the LOLs, but many an OMG, K, GTG, BRB....


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:07 AM
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Sent and received. A lot of those could be, I dunno, texts from news services you subscribe to? (I am out of touch with the kids. Do they do that?)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:08 AM
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I have received five text messages in my life, all on the burner I was carrying during the first UnfoggeDCon. My entire texting history consists of Tweety, Fontana Labs, and SP.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:12 AM
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8: That's very sweet.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:13 AM
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A lot of people do route twitter to their cell phones.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:13 AM
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I came across a lawsuit that relates to the surrogacy abortion thread. In this case, the question is whether a Muslim truck driver can be fired for refusing to transport beer. In case you find it interesting, here is the link. It's being discussed at the Volokh Conspiracy so there are many links to other cases and statutes. Enjoy!

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Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:13 AM
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I try to keep up on this stuff because it's so essential to my job. So I'm rather embarrassed with my first reaction to receiving a text on my iPhone, which was to think, "How did this box get here?"


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:14 AM
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Does the coaster/beeper thing that Panera gives you to say when your sandwich is ready count as a text sent? If so, the kids with jobs might be boosting the average.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:15 AM
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Maybe I'm just too focused on lunch. But, in honor of Natilo, I skipped Jimmy Johns and that is the closest place to my office unless you count Arby's as a place to eat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:28 AM
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Panera sucks. Text that to your children


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:38 AM
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It doesn't suck as much as Arby's.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:39 AM
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I suppose that depends on your level of interest in curly fries.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:42 AM
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2: I'm not *suggesting* it, but the archives layout and comment scheme make it an easy number to estimate--which I've done.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:44 AM
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15: Text, your children well.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:47 AM
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I'm glad I read LB's #2 before posting the first thing that came to mind.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:48 AM
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My kids buy their own phone credit. I.e. they are not sending 30 texts a day.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:49 AM
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I know you're a mathematician, not an arithmetician or even statistician, but this is one of those areas where the median would probably be a lot more informative than the mean, if you had to pick just one.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:51 AM
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I want a stem and leaf plot.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:53 AM
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So vote yes on Prop 19.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:54 AM
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In this case, the question is whether a Muslim truck driver can be fired for refusing to transport beer.

I hope so, because I hope that eventually somebody will rule that pharmacists can be fired for refusing to sell contraception.

But I don't believe there's any prohibition in Islam against transporting beer, or even selling it to non-Muslims. You can't drink it; what other people get up to is not your problem.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 10:57 AM
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25: Later on in the post Volokh quotes cases stating that it doesn't matter if your belief isn't the majority belief of your religion as long as the claimant sincerely believes it.


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:01 AM
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Heretics deserve protection as well.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:02 AM
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So does beer.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:08 AM
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This is not right. Texting so much means that these kids don't have to call each other to set up dates. Which means that they are having a lot more dates and more fun than I did in my awkward teens, and probably my awkward twenties. I want to take all of these phones away.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:12 AM
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In the interest of science, I checked my bill for last month. Since getting a smartphone, I'm pretty sure my texting frequency has gone up.

-Phone calls (total): 246 minutes
-Texts: 467
-Data: 1,100,700 Kb*

*I don't really know what to make of this number or why it's given to me, since the plan is unlimited. I'm supposed to brag about it, perhaps?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:13 AM
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My entire texting history consists of Tweety, Fontana Labs, and SP.

I'll bet Sarah Palin sends very articulate texts.


Posted by: Populuxe | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:19 AM
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In the interest of science, I ate three "Fiber Plus" bars because that added to 100% of the recommended daily allowance for fiber.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:21 AM
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A lot of people do route twitter to their cell phones.

This is an excellent point.

but this is one of those areas where the median would probably be a lot more informative than the mean, if you had to pick just one.

This is not, since I'm most curious about the people on the high end.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:21 AM
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14: Yay!
25: In the case here (which was made much of by local rightists, but was actually a tempest in a teacup), the issue was that one of the local imams (from basically the most conservative mosque in town) issued some kind of sub-fatwa ruling that taxi drivers whose passengers were *openly* transporting liquor home from the duty-free at the airport, should refuse those passengers. Other local imams disagreed, but there were some drivers who felt bound by that. The backstory is that what was really going on was that there was an organizing drive among the cabbies to get better rates for airport trips. Then, the organizing drive fizzled, the airports commission ruled that if you refused a fair, you had to go back to the end of the line, and it all came to nothing in the end, except for giving the rightists another club with which to bash local Muslims.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:22 AM
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This is not, since I'm most curious about the people on the high end.

"The average. The average kid is sending an average of about 90 messages a day."


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:24 AM
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30: I like to compare the number to various use plans. I'm grandfathered in under the iPhone unlimited plan, but if I were to switch to their incremental use plans so far I would save a little bit of money. But I'm deeply suspicious of any plan that charges you extra when you exceed the data threshold so I'd never switch. What if I suddenly need to view YouTube videos 24/7?!


Posted by: LizSpigot | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:27 AM
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35: Okay, but what the hell else can you do when all I've got is the average to work with? You have information about how this graph is skewed?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:30 AM
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To the OP, I suspect group texts can partially answer this: if you send a single text message to 30 people, that counts as 30 text messages for billing purposes. I believe group texts get used a lot to co├Ârdinate things.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:31 AM
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38: The problem with group texts is, there's no reply-all function, so you miss out on the kind of accidental hilarity that ensues on big-group-of-people-CC-type email exchanges.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:34 AM
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I would be less surprised by a median of 2 than a median of 90.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:35 AM
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21: My kids have to pay too. They still send/receive many many texts.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:38 AM
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I would be more surprised by a median of 2 than a median of 90, but more surprised by a median of 90 than a median of 30. If I were to rank my surprise, it would go: 2, 90, 30.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:38 AM
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I'd be surprised by a median of 3.14159.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:39 AM
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I'd be very upset to learn that text messages contain a hidden geometrical constant.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:39 AM
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If you are often surprised by medians you should consider texting less while driving.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:40 AM
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Heebie is Bayesian.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:40 AM
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I'd be very upset to learn that text messages contain a hidden geometrical constant.

Shhh...the cognescenti know it as heebie-geebie's number.



Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:42 AM
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I laughed at 45.


Posted by: cree | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:46 AM
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else can you do when all I've got is the average to work with?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:46 AM
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There's a place in Puerto Rico named Ciales?

Unfortunate name, amigos.

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Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:49 AM
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50: Yeah, I hear they're pretty hard up.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:52 AM
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No, no, they're up and coming.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:53 AM
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50: The resort there has two bathtubs in every room (so friends have told me. I wouldn't need, er, know first hand).


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:57 AM
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50. Presumably Cia/lis is a regular third declension Latin noun like "pen/is", so Ciales would be several of them, maybe a week's worth.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 11:58 AM
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two bathtubs

Is there any explanation for the 'two bathtubs' thing? That always leaves me with my head cocked on one side like the RCA terrier, trying to figure it out.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:00 PM
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What "two bathtubs" thing?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:01 PM
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That always leaves me with my head cocked

They don't list that one in the possible side effects to discuss with your doctor.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:01 PM
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That always leaves me with my head cocked

You can use an erection whatever way you want.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:03 PM
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The only thing I can figure on the two bath tubs is that obviously the people are naked, so, you know. Implied naked people implies sex.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:03 PM
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What "two bathtubs" thing?

The "one shower" thing would seem to have more possibilities.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:04 PM
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54: we are Google proofing pen/is now?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:05 PM
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61. Dittography, dear boy, pure dittography.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:06 PM
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58 to 56.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:06 PM
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56: Cialis (I think? Maybe Viagra) TV ads always or often finish up with the attractive elderly couple soaking in separate bathtubs somewhere outdoors. And, you know (a) how does the plumbing work and (b) how are you supposed to have sex, regardless of pharmaceutical enhancement, if you're not even in the same bathtub? I'm sure I'm just overly literal minded here.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:09 PM
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What "two bathtubs" thing?

There's a commercial with an older couple looking lovingly at each other, presumably after he's all pilled-up and ready to go, while each sits in a separate bathtub (facing the sea, I think?). The implication is supposed to be that they're feeling randy, but the more likely end result is someone having a slipping accident (cue segue to Medical Alert "fallen and I can't get up" commercial).

On preview, pwned, but I added a dumb joke!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:10 PM
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Perhaps it's the outline created by the negative space below and between the tubs.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:12 PM
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Open, touchy, physical people who want the drug are customers already. The commercial is aimed at people who haven't yet started buying, modest well-groomed normal people just like the ones in the commercial, not people with questionable morals who use shared hot tubs.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:14 PM
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I'm sure I'm just overly literal minded here.

You can watch your geezer porn on the internet, LB, if that floats your boat. But please keep it off my TV. I'm trying to watch a football game.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:16 PM
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68: I'm still repressing the image of Mike Ditka throwing a football through a tire swing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:19 PM
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65--67. Thanks.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:19 PM
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All other things being equal, I'd rather buy people with questionable morals.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:21 PM
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In France, the slyly suggestive ads are a bit less subtle.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:24 PM
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Yowch.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:25 PM
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All of those commercials are really interesting-- there was one that seemed life-affirming (Viva Las Vegas as the jingle, except with the drug name, which my kid promptly started singing in a cheerful, innocent way for the next week or so. Anyway.).

But the guy failing to throw the football through the tire, the schmuck lovingly washing his antique sports car, the twilight-colored outdoor lighting, the emphasis on happy stable relationships. Just as liquor companies avoid marketing explicitly geared to heavy drinkers, none of these ads feature people dressed to meet Mr or Mrs right now.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:27 PM
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To circle back to the OP, having a smartphone means having a way click on apo's links while at work without worrying about jeopardizing my continued employment.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:27 PM
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74: Afraid you didn't stock enough one-use Viagra for your 36-hour Singles Cruise? Tired of leaving Tina and Stacey high and dry? Those ladies aren't going to fuck themselves... or will they? Take Cialis and forget it!


Posted by: A White Bear | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:31 PM
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I'm just struck by the contrast between those ads and ads for cigs, beer, or sports cars, all of which seem much less focused on dignity and quiet.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:43 PM
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Maybe you don't get fired from your job as a pharmacist for refusing to dispense birth control, but one does, apparently, get tossed from the cheerleading squad for refusing to yell your rapist's name.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:49 PM
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I'm sure pointing this out makes me Captain Banality, but it is outrageous that Viagra and Cialis ads are acceptable during Sunday afternoon family sports programing, but the sight of an exposed nipple is not. Why, it's as if the world was run by rich old men.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:52 PM
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It occurs to me that I can't think of the last time I've seen a cigarette ad. (Obviously it would have to be a print ad, but even those seems scarce nowadays. Maybe I'm reading the wrong magazines.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:52 PM
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79: Rich old men don't like nipples?


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80: They've been banned. I think it was a voluntary ban as part of a consent degree in the big tobacco liability settlement that the state AG's negotiated.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 12:57 PM
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82: Huh. Well, that explains that.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:01 PM
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Smoking causes cancer so no nipples are allowed on the TV?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:04 PM
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Actors have no nipples. They're painted on when need be.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:07 PM
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OT: In this election, Rhode Island is taking a vote to shorten its formal name (Rhode Island and Providence Plantations) to "Delaware 2.0."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:09 PM
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83: It wasn't a bad deal for Big Tobacco. By banning advertising, they more or less freeze into place the current market shares (ensuring that no upstart competitor can get in) and save themselves hundreds of millions of money wasted on a zero-sum game.

The only positive sum value of advertising to the industry was in recruiting new smokers to replace the ones that tobacco kills off, and in that sense U.S. advertising was facing starkly diminishing returns. The money is better spent on foreign markets, where restrictions on advertising are looser and the social stigma against smoking doesn't leave them fighting an uphill battle in the media.


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:09 PM
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"20+ pictures of Marky Mark's third nipple inside..."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:09 PM
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86: I love RI's stupidly long name. Leave it be!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:11 PM
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89: I don't get a vote.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:11 PM
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Further to 85: areola and aioli are two totally different things, and confusing them when ordering dinner can be quite embarrassing.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:12 PM
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88: he dedicated his autobiography to it! ("'cuz the bitches like to suck on it", if I remember the phrasing right)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:13 PM
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Further to 85: areola and aioli are two totally different things, and confusing them when ordering dinner can be quite embarrassing.

I walked past a newish restaurant in the Mission recently, whose menu noted that a certain dish involved "ailoi".


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93: Was the restaurant named something like The Moorlock Arms?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:50 PM
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94: Their Eloin chops are simple but just to die for.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 1:53 PM
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I was afraid for some reason that 72 was going to be the unsettling Orangina ad with the hot guy and his half-cat, half-person boyfriend/trick/pet who shaves with Orangina and no I promise this is not me starting in about shaving cream again.

like the RCA terrier

Nipper!


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:21 PM
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|| Have we discussed Racist Fuckwit Charles Murray's op-ed (in the Washington Post, natch) about how liberals aren't Real Americans because they aren't Rotarians who read Left Behind and Harlequin romances? Ignoring the general fact that Murray has no idea what he's talking about, what was his bizarre claim that Jimmie Johnson, NASCAR driver, trumps Jimmy Johnson, former Cowboys and Dolphins coach, on the Real American scale? |>


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:32 PM
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Jesus Christ. Will someone clean that up for me? My mouse button stuck or something. Thanks.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:33 PM
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98: Only because I'm feeling particularly magnanimous on a Monday when I've done several really dopey things, including locking my roommate out of the house when she was standing right next to me on the porch smoking a cigarette.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:35 PM
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And because Kobe.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:36 PM
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Jimmy Johnson, former Cowboys and Dolphins coach, on the Real American scale

Anybody hating on Jimmy Johnson can't be all wrong. Fucking Hurricanes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:36 PM
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97: Next thread over.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:37 PM
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Fucking Hurricanes.

How do they work?


Posted by: juggalo | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:38 PM
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Those text messaging stats seem weird. An average of one a day for the over-65 set? Really?

But I also boggle at the voice-minute numbers. I rarely break 100 in a given month. When is all of this talking going on?


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:51 PM
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whose menu noted that a certain dish involved "ailoi".

I certainly can't imagine eating more than one ailos at a single sitting.


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I also boggle at the voice-minute numbers. I rarely break 100 in a given month.

I see where you're getting confused. Those are *metric* minutes.


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If they would only get off our lawns while they text, it wouldn't be such a big deal, but my grass was just ruined last year by those kids.


Posted by: x. trapnel | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:56 PM
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I suspect group texts can partially answer this

Many problems can be solved by group texts, true, but then your usual text partner gets jealous.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 2:59 PM
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When is all of this talking going on?

When? Well, judging from the people one sees gabbing on cell phones, it's going on while walking down the street, at the pharmacy, at the liquor store, in line at the bank, and so on. Possibly also in the evenings, at home, but we wouldn't really know about that.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 3:01 PM
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When is all of this talking going on?

Personally, I wear one of those Bluetooth earpieces, just so I can get away with muttering to myself in public without raising suspicions.


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110: you and legions of schizophrenia sufferers.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 3:12 PM
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OT: Good takedown of Waiting for "Superman."


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 4:04 PM
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I suppose that depends on your level of interest in curly fries.

Someone just gave me some free Arby's curly fries, explaining that they were out of large containers so they gave him two mediums. This occurrence greatly increased my level of interest in curly fries.


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8: Really? Sorry to say I can't remember texting you specifically (I remember trying to locate the bar but not using text to do so.) I'm not even sure I had a text-capable phone at that point- if I did, I had just gotten it and you were one of my first.


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... The average kid is sending an average of about 90 messages a day. ...

45 actually since (as pointed out in 5) each message has a sender and a receiver.


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45 actually since (as pointed out in 5) each message has a sender and a receiver.

LOL


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-25-10 7:27 PM
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95: 94: Their Eloin chops are simple but just to die for.

After the singularity, we'll all have eloins.


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