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Now we've got about 6 meals in rotation

In that case, you need more fiber.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:06 AM
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What are you doing with your hair? Just letting it get wet in the shower, or scrubbing your hands through it as if you were shampooing?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:09 AM
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Chopping gets easier and faster, thank God. That's one thing that's really worth practicing and checking your form on, because once you know how to chop everything up fast, you stop saying, "Eh, I'd add that ingredient but I don't want to chop it up."


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:15 AM
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Chopping is the best part of cooking. I don't like cleaning lettuce.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:17 AM
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I also don't like eating lettuce, so it all works.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:18 AM
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2: Kind of finger-scrubbing, but just absentmindedly because it feels good.

3: I'm sure my form is terrible. We do have good knives because my parents gave me a set, but I'm super slow.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:18 AM
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Roberta does nearly all of the cooking in our house, but I do most of the chopping.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:20 AM
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6.2: They make chain mail kitchen gloves.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:21 AM
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IME, the most important parts of being better at making a healthy, interesting dinner with a variety of ingredients are (a) chopping everything up pretty well ahead of cooking (until you know you've got the timing down), and (b) planning when to put everything on the heat. Incidentally, these are the reasons why I cannot watch my roommates cook. It takes 2 hours to make dinner. Oh the lentils are done? Huh, maybe we should have some rice too. Oh the rice is done? Maybe I'll make a loaf of bread. We have ended up having dinner at 2am on occasion.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:22 AM
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9: They're drunk or stoned, right?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:24 AM
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10: South American and Eastern European, and fond of snacking while cooking. I am not a snacker, and far prefer making exactly what I want for dinner as quickly as possible. But yes, it's an issue that when I'm making dinner, they biff off somewhere for an hour because they can't imagine it will be done in 15.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:27 AM
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I think cooking is also kind of social for them, like an opportunity to sit together in the kitchen and talk? It's great, and I admire their sociability. I'm not sure it says anything nice about me that I really really don't want to share the kitchen with anyone when I'm cooking GETTHEFUCKOUTOFMYWAY.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:28 AM
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After our previous comment thread, I went without shampoo for most of the past week. I finally washed it this morning because it had been feeling skanky and my wife told me how bad it looks.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:33 AM
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Obviously, don't feel skanky right in front of your wife. There's hotels for that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:37 AM
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I made a protein smoothie with oatmeal, carrots and blackberries. The blender did all the chopping for me!

Then I washed my hair.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:38 AM
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9: I can tolerate that sort of thing if I'm visiting friends and we're just going to be hanging around talking anyway. But I haven't done much of that kind of social cooking since college (maybe I should!). If I had to live with people who cooked that way routinely, it would slowly drive me mad.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:39 AM
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I miss out on things because I don't tolerate it. This morning, for example, we all got up at the same time, and I finished making and eating eggs and toast before one roommate decided to make what ended up looking like some really nice strawberry pancakes. The store had to be gone to twice, and the other roommate decided to go to the laundromat, before they were done, but they probably had the nicer breakfast.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:45 AM
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And cleaner clothes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:47 AM
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Heh. Just had a housemate who cooks dishes in series rather than parallel. He was pretty intrigued by my technique. Put the rice on first, because it will take the longest?! Fascinating! When he had dinner parties, he thought nothing of feeding his guests at 10:30 or 11, which I sabotaged by bringing out other snackies every half hour. There are people in my house! They must be fed constantly!

Also, AWB, it seems like you could solve your dilemma by eating two breakfasts. No one should be left out of strawberry pancakes.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:04 AM
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He would also wander out of the kitchen to chat with his guests. Why? That five minutes was the turn-around on getting the dish browned at the same time as the... never mind.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:05 AM
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20: How do people leave the kitchen with someone cooking on high on the burner? The smoke alarm goes off every single time. Every time. Because you're not supposed to sear anything for 10 minutes.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:07 AM
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something. we're not cannibals.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:08 AM
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21, 22: You could do without the correction if you insist on the difference between "cooking" and "being cooked."


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:10 AM
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I am cutting back on soap too! It feels good so far. The issue for me is the oil in my hair. Conditioner gets some of the oil out, but I guess that's cheating. I don't think I smell any worse than before.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:29 AM
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If you're really doing the full-on no-shampoo thing, isn't there a powder that is used to absorb some of the oil?


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:52 AM
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powder is cheating!


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:54 AM
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I am not very familiar with the hippie version of the no-shampoo thing, but in the curly-haired version one is supposed to leave the oils alone, as they are essentially being repurposed as product.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:56 AM
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I feel like when I've heard people talk about no shampoo, they used something (baking soda? baking powder?) to wash their hair, every once in a while, and then something else (vinegar I think) as a conditioner.

Maybe I'll look for some links.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:58 AM
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I'm pretty sure using vinegar as a condition would be a bad idea.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:59 AM
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I have curly hair. I usually just use conditioner, as it gets rid of the right amount of oil. But that's purely out of vanity. So the right thing to do is: no conditioner! No anything! They didn't have powders on the veldt.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:00 AM
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Apple cider vinegar. I have no idea if this actually works or not. Also it seems like the vinegar might need the baking soda to work right?


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:01 AM
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Whoops.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:01 AM
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31: Without baking soda, no volcano.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:02 AM
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I'm going to just put lye in my hair like the Gauls. And paint myself blue!


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:04 AM
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31: If you throw in some red food coloring I'm in.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:04 AM
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From that link "If your hair feels too dry, use less baking soda, or try using honey instead of vinegar."

I cannot imagine how that could possibly work. Is honey acidic? Does the honey rinse out? Will you be surrounded by bees and/or bears when you go out?


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:06 AM
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Cornstarch, I thought, was the thing.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:08 AM
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34: See you at the meet-up.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:08 AM
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Honey is apparently very moisturizing. (No clue how or why, but it is pretty common for folks with dry but breakout-prone skin to use it as a facial moisturizer.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:09 AM
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37: That's what they use on people in hospitals or who otherwise can't bathe.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:09 AM
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South American

Argentinian, I bet. Eating at 2 am is normal there, though cooking serially for six hours maybe not so much.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:11 AM
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Nice, apo.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:12 AM
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Colombiano. His cooking style is more like put something on, go chat on Skype until you're done, come back, put something else on, call someone and talk a while...


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:13 AM
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If I'm going to use honey or vinegar or baking soda, I might as well use shampoo. I'm not clear on why any of those other products would be better than something specifically designed for hair.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:28 AM
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I've done the baking soda wash thing occasionally. You pour a solution of baking soda on your head and scrub it around for a while, and it saponifies your head grease. Exciting! Science projecty! Kind of time consuming!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:29 AM
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I think the idea with the baking soda thing is that you are minimizing the amount of weird stuff you are introducing to your scalp-hair ecosystem -- you can calibrate it to make your own head grease into exactly as much soap as you need to get rid of the excess grease. Also it is very cheap. (I got bored by it, plus it doesn't work as well in hard water areas.)


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:32 AM
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Don't our heads make grease because we need grease? I think we've been interfering in the markets too much.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:35 AM
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44- as far as I can tell, the people who do the baking soda/vinegar thing are mostly anti-establishment hippie sorts who would rather buy baking soda and vinegar than shampoo and conditioner. Also the shampoo and conditioner have Chemicals in them, and come in wasteful plastic packaging.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:42 AM
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41: Argentinian, I bet. Eating at 2 am is normal there

Someone I knew here in Pittsburgh opened a relatively short-lived Argentinian restaurant here about 20 years ago. Among the problems it had was the absolute disconnect between Pittsburghers' views of dinner time (in my experience early even by US standards) and those of her and many of her staff (who tended to be Argentinian).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:43 AM
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I want to know what your 6 meals are!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:45 AM
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the people who do the baking soda/vinegar thing are mostly anti-establishment hippie sorts

Ah, that explains why it didn't work for me, because I'm part of the establishment these days. I guess its punishment for selling my soul to the Man.

Also the shampoo and conditioner have Chemicals in them, and come in wasteful plastic packaging.

When I'm in the shower, I kinda prefer wasteful plastic to damp cardboard or breakable glass.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:47 AM
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A decent person would transfer their baking soda to a reusable metal container for bathing purposes.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:55 AM
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After buying it from the bulk bin at the co-op, of course!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:55 AM
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Maybe we ought to get back to dousing in oils and then scraping ourselves.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:58 AM
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I want to know what your 6 meals are!

Fixed recipes:
1. Blackbean/corn/bell pepper thing with tortillas or tortilla chips
2. Egg salad
3. White bean chicken chili

Rough templates:
1. Roasting vegetables and chicken in the oven, or throwing vegetables in a pan with fish
2. Pasta with a bit of cream, whatever vegetables, cheese, or shredded meat is on hand
3. Potato flakes with spinach stirred in and whatever else dumped on top or stirred in.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:00 AM
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Also the shampoo and conditioner have Chemicals in them, and come in wasteful plastic packaging.

I think you meant Toxins.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:01 AM
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I want to know what your 6 meals are!

Oat, corn, bone, fish, cottonseed, and schle.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:03 AM
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whatever else dumped on top or stirred in

This is my favorite dish to make.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:03 AM
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I think you meant Toxins.

I think if you packaged shampoo in bottles shaped like miniature barrels of toxic waste, you could totally sell that stuff at Spencer Gifts.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:10 AM
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Egg salad for dinner?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:10 AM
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I'm glad to see that the "bean thing" food group is represented. Holla!


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:12 AM
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Also the shampoo and conditioner have Chemicals in them

56. No, she means chemicals. People who aren't hippies wash their hair with pure quarks.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:17 AM
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59: Spencer Gifts

They still exist? There was a Spencer in our local mall as I was growing up and even as a kid I used to marvel out how transcendentally useless every single thing they sold was.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:18 AM
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61: I haven't quite gotten around to doing beans the right way yet. We're still dumping out of a can. But I feel apologetic about it, at least.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:20 AM
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Heebie, you might find an Spanish-omelette-like thing easy to add to the rotation.

Veggies, sauteed, with whatever cheese or meat or beans are to hand. Lots of oil in the pan. Pour beaten egg over them, put lid on. Move pan around so it doesn't burn in one location. Take off lid, look to see whether eggs are cooked, put plate over frying pan, flip pancake onto plate. Serve.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:20 AM
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The white bean and chicken chili sounds like the kind of thing we'd do mid week. What else goes in it besides the obvious?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:21 AM
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64: I always used canned beans, except for making bean bags.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:22 AM
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Beanbags filled with cans would be a problem.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:24 AM
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Lentils are hard to mess up.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:24 AM
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What else goes in it besides the obvious?

Green beans.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:27 AM
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I made fried rice for the first time last night. I'm sort of amazed it's that easy.

Meals sound good! Yay for cooking!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:27 AM
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The only canned beans I like are chickpeas, which are slightly frustrating to get the right texture from dried.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:27 AM
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What else goes in it besides the obvious?

Salsa! A whole jar. And finely crushed corn chips to thicken it up.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:30 AM
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Yeah, ditto on the chickpeas. Much easier/nicer from tins whereas other beans are often strange mush from tins.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:30 AM
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I've had the same two cans of chickpeas for about four years now.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:32 AM
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Hm. I prefer my chickpeas cooked at home and I feel like I get the texture right more often than with other beans. I wonder if it has to do with hard water or something.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:32 AM
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When I'm in the shower, I kinda prefer wasteful plastic to damp cardboard or breakable glass.

You can have two plastic bottles (you should get them from your neighbor's recycling container). After you buy the baking soda in its cardboard box (which you will recycle, or use in an art project, after it is empty), you can mix some of it into some water and keep it in one of the plastic bottles. When the portion of the cider you made that you set aside for the purpose has turned to vinegar, you can keep some of that in the other plastic bottle. You will have to reuse these two plastic bottles until you die, at which point you should will them to one of your descendants who does not yet have any plastic bottles of his or her own, but has been sharing with a sibling and will be so excited about MY VERY OWN PLASTIC BOTTLES that you will probably get a shrine to your memory built in the bathroom, next to the shower, where you may or may not wish a shrine to yourself to actually be so maybe you should just stick with Head & Shoulders, you earth-killer.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:32 AM
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Here's the recipe. It's really good. And easy.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:33 AM
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I would even say surprisingly good.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:34 AM
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I used to marvel out how transcendentally useless every single thing they sold was.

Mood rings? Fart spray? Mugs with pithy phrases on them? Black-felt Bon Jovi posters? Penis-shaped candy?

Transcendently useless? I think not....


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:34 AM
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I am pretty good at multitasking in the kitchen and used to think I cook reasonably quickly but I then I shared a house with a guy who was a chef. Aussie malaysian chinese fusion dude. He used to come in from his shift with some left over wine and produce a big bowl of noodles, a couple of meat dishes and some little veggie things in about twenty minutes flat. From zero to banquet in the time most people take to chop the veg.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:36 AM
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I love the words connected with "sapon-"; saponification, saponify, etc.

I am an appreciator of saponisme.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:42 AM
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77 When the portion of the cider you made that you set aside for the purpose has turned to vinegar, you can keep some of that in the other plastic bottle.

See, I'd be concerned that the toxins from the plastic would leach into the vinegar. Probably best to just use a hollowed-out gourd.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:44 AM
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83: The gourds mostly hollow themselves.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:45 AM
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Saponaceousness is in the Scrabble dictionary.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:47 AM
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85: That's the dictionary you keep on your desk?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:48 AM
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Too long. Don't see how you could do it.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:48 AM
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It doesn't split either.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:49 AM
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If only there was a way to make a really bad joke about 87.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:49 AM
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82 made me think that sapodilla/sapote fruits might have that root, but turns the name is from the Nahuatl word tzapotl.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:49 AM
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87: Perhaps by connecting SAP, ACE and ESS?


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:51 AM
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nosflow is what some might call a saponite.


Posted by: neil | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:53 AM
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That's the dictionary you keep on your desk?

No, that's the one I've memorized.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:53 AM
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Speaking of gourds, that grooved-gourd-one-plays-with-a-stick instrument is miked way the hell out in front in "The Man Who Sold the World." I imagine the recording session was a bit MORE COWBELL, but, you know, whatever that gourd-n-stick thing is called.
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Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:54 AM
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90: Hmm, but then it appears that sapodilla contains a lot of saponin (90: Hmm, but then it appears that sapodilla contains a lot of saponin (


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:56 AM
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95 cont.: < French saponine < Latin sāpōn- (stem of sāpō ) soap + French -ine -in2)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:57 AM
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91: Explain. How would you play that in turns?


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 11:59 AM
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Oh, SAP, ACE, and ESS are all on one line and you connect them? Hm.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 12:00 PM
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78/9 Thanks, that looks good (for my taste I'd quadruple the garlic, but that's just me).


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98: Yes. This would never ever happen, but it could. In real life tiley games I'm mediocre to terrible at Scrabble, so I know that I'd never pull it off.


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 12:15 PM
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Just now: 16 minutes, start to finish, for fusilli pasta in a light cheesy saffron bechamel with onions, red peppers, and asparagus.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 12:46 PM
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101 Sounds good.

For Heebie, have you ever considered making big batches of stuff that you can eat twice in the week and freeze the rest for a lazy night? Most stews work great for this, so do pasta meat sauces. So do some soups. And then there's the carnivore's standby: pan fry a hunk of meat, drop some wine and broth on the pan with shallots or garlic, and reduce. Very quick dinner. So are certain stir fries. My favorite is chopping chicken breast into large chunks, shaking it in a bunch of flavored flower, then frying it at high temp with loads of chopped parsley and adding garlic right at the end. Sweet and or hot peppers optional. Make sure you use tons of oil and/or butter. And it keeps quite well, as does the rice you serve with it.

Reason not to cook: cleaning up. The first part at worst a very minor pain and at best a ton of fun. The second state is at best a major pain and at worst something that must be avoided until you need the dishes/space/get the weird colored stuff out of your kitchen sink.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 12:59 PM
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101: with or without boiling the pasta water time? If with, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 4:39 PM
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103: We have a super-hot burner. It boils water ridiculously fast.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:03 PM
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I generally take forty-five minutes or an hour to make dinner -- about half the time because something has to simmer or bake for a while in there, and half the time because I dawdle for the alone time. Also, we never have pasta, alas, for the sake of Snark's pancreas.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:08 PM
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I think the only way I could prepare the dish in 101 in 16 minutes is if I already had the veggies washed, the onion peeled, the flour taken out of the freezer, and so on. And, I guess, if I didn't clean up in stages as I cooked (I tend to wash the knife and the measuring cup when I'm done with them, put the flour back away, put the remainder of the veggies back in the fridge, stuff like that, before proceeding).


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:18 PM
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the flour taken out of the freezer,

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Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:32 PM
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I have recently cut my pasta water boiling time in half (or, you know, some other fraction) by heating it in an electric kettle and then pouring into the pot. But even when I had my "professional" range I don't think it could boil water fast enough to make fusilli in 16 minutes.

What altitude are we talking about here?


Posted by: emdash | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:34 PM
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107: Somewhere along the line I got the idea that flour should be stored in the freezer. My household doesn't use it very often -- a bag of wheat and one of white flour can last six months or a year. So they go in plastic bags closed with twist-ties, in the freezer. Some of this may have to do with my locale: it's horribly humid in summer months.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:41 PM
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that grooved-gourd-one-plays-with-a-stick instrument

Güiro? I confess that, off the top of my head, I know only the Nirvana Unplugged version of that song, and it has no güiro that I'm aware of.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 5:53 PM
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The water boils in under 5 minutes. It wasn't a huge huge pot.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:00 PM
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104: I think I could hit your 16 minutes if the water boiled in ~6 minutes, but I would have to blaze to get the asparagus prepped in time. More likely would be 20 minutes.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:03 PM
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Y'all are doing something fancy with that asparagus. Rinse, pick off the ends, chop into rounds--30 seconds, tops.


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Further to 110: found the original; holy crap, that's some loud friggin' güiro.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAK! bick bick BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAK!


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1. Put pot on with water.
2. Chop onion, pepper, and asparagus.
3. Put pan on with butter.
4. Add onion, cook 2 minutes, add pepper, cook 1, add asparagus, cook 1.
5. When boiling, salt the water, add fusilli.
6. Sprinkle flour over cooking veg.
7. Stir to cook flour, 2 min.
8. Stir fusilli.
9. Sprinkle milk into veg, bit at a time.
10. Simmer low until thickening.
11. Add a ladle of salty pasta water. Stir. Add pinch of saffron. Taste. Add another if you want it looser. Add salt if it needs more.
12. Add small cubes of cheese and allow to melt while stirring.
13. Stir veg over low heat until pasta is done.
14. Combine. Eat. Yum.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:11 PM
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Maybe people are thinking of peeling the asparagus, at least the bottom, thicker lengths.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:14 PM
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Ah. Our spring asparagus is still pretty small.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:16 PM
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Put steak on broiler, 5 minutes a side, fry up some chopped kale in the pan, totally done in 15 w/only two things to clean.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:17 PM
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Also, I assume that whoever started the no washing/bathing thing was playing a prank, and is chortling now that he/she has sucked so many of you in. Kudos, commenter I can't remember.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:24 PM
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Wasn't there a NYT article on the no washing/bathing thing?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:26 PM
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120: Boing-boing, maybe?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:28 PM
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There was an NYT article, and, as I recall, it was mostly wringing hands about how some people might even go to work without having fully soaped up that day. Eeee! It seemed so freaked out about that sort of thing that it ignored the possibility that not everyone showers at least once every day.


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119: Chopper started it in the "Momisms" thread.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:35 PM
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Paleo hygiene.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:42 PM
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I just made asparagus-lemon risotto. Nom nom. I've also drunk most of a bottle of cremant.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:42 PM
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Maybe people are thinking of peeling the asparagus,

People think about peeling asparagus?!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:42 PM
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126: Some of them, when they don't have access to the internet or reading material.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:43 PM
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I'm drinking gin and tonic, but with vodka instead of gin.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:43 PM
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125: Nice.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:47 PM
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126: Yeah. Non-baby, thicker, more mature asparagus - which is still perfectly delicious - is better off with its bottom halves (the part that's not the top one or two inches of the tip) peeled. You do it with, like, a potato peeler, at a very shallow peel.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:47 PM
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I don't even own one agus, let alone a spare one.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:50 PM
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It peels off on long green strips. Some people who are more articulate than I might call this portion of the asparagus the stalk.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 6:50 PM
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I've only skimmed the thread. Is someone showering with their asparagus? That sounds very European.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:42 PM
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Asparagus golden showers? That can be arranged.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:48 PM
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119: what, you seriously don't paleo bathe? Good luck killing your skin, there, bro.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:48 PM
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I see I was pwned, but on the veldt healthy competition for a joke made for robust, red-blooded jokes.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:51 PM
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135: READ MY NEW YA NOVEL ABOUT HACKING THE BATHING PROCESS AND FIGHTING BIG SOAP, GREP Dirty/REPLACE Clean.

UPDATE: I'M TURNING OFF COMMENTS ON THIS POST.


Posted by: OPINIONATED C/ORY D/OCTOROW | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:58 PM
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I just made asparagus-lemon risotto. Nom nom. I've also drunk most of a bottle of cremant.

Interesting. I just marinated a skirt steak in a mixture of shaoxing wine and chili bean paste, then cooked it quickly in a bit of oil in which I had previously heated a bunch of sichuan pepper and chili peppers, following which I deglazed the pan with more wine and cooked in it a bunch of wild radish greens with garlic and preserved lemon.

It's pretty good.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 7:59 PM
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To drink: water.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 8:00 PM
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128: Or you could be drinking a vodka and tonic, but with gin instead of vodka, but with vodka instead of gin.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 9:32 PM
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119: Totally me, totally not a prank. I am, however, entertained.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:48 PM
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I see I was pwned, but on the veldt healthy competition for a joke made for robust, red-blooded jokes.

I actually tried it, though I broke down after a couple days and used some conditioner. Didn't mean to scoff at anyone, more to riff. It works better in real life. Then again, maybe I was the only one taken in at all.


Posted by: text | Link to this comment | 05-24-11 10:51 PM
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I have started on an obsessive quest to find different sorts of things you can bake salmon with. Last night: dill and white wine. The night before: capers and lemon zest. Tonight, who knows? Parsley and butter? Lime juice and chilli? Peanut butter and mango? Cream cheese and gherkins? Beer and paprika? Dark chocolate and garlic?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 1:53 AM
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Leeks and yoghurt. Red wine and porcini. Pisto manchego.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 2:30 AM
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144 me


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 2:32 AM
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Oh please don't spread the acceptability of this. I have a client who hasn't showered or bathed in about 6 years. It's a horror for her housemates, and it's bad for her health. She gets skin infections, the details of which I'll spare you. Of course, she says that she'll start menstruating again if she bathes, so she can only wipe herself down occasionally. Anyway, it makes me so sick. Not that anything oanyoen says on this blog will affect her, but I really wish that peer pressure would.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 3:59 AM
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re: 153

Mix some natural yoghurt with curry paste,* coat and then bake. Shame I'm not a big fan of salmon, as it takes so easily to so many different things.

* Patak's type stuff.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 4:44 AM
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Interesting that Hebbie counted 6 recipes in circulation. I wonder what the average number is? I expect even those of us who cook a lot probably still have half a dozen to a dozen things that are the core of what we regularly make.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 4:45 AM
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Heebie. Damn typos.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 4:46 AM
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148. Thinking about it: Tomato tuna sauce with fusilli (with variations); Broccoli with anchovies, raisins and pine nuts/spaghetti; Anglo-chili; Curried whatever vegetables are around; Peas/broad beans and pancetta; Bits of chicken thrown in the oven with seasonal veg.; Jacket spuds in winter. That probably accounts for about half our meals. Six or seven, yes.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 5:19 AM
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149 me again. The name box is amnesiac today.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 5:28 AM
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Yeah, our core list would be something like:

pilau + stuff -- rice with whatever veg/meat/seafood/spicing
pasta + tomato sauce -- various different pastas, slightly difference sauces [puttanesca, bolognese, etc] but variations on a theme
bechamel/stroganoff/generic-white type sauce with stuff -- fish/white-meat and whatever veggies/herbs we have, with pasta or new potatoes if in season
gulas or similar meat + stock + spices
paella
various chicken or veg curries
chicken/pork tagine w' brown rice, or couscous, or bulgur wheat
veg soup
puy lentils with bacon/sausage/pork + seasonal veggies
tortilla/frittata
chick-peas/beans w' tomato based sauce

Potentially that's lots of dishes as the spicing/herbs/ingredients will vary, but really 5 - 10 core dishes that just vary depending what's in the house.

Plus once or twice a week, something 'proper', i.e. with side-dishes, and more fancy prep, and so on, usually following something from a book/tv-show/web-site.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 5:33 AM
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Hmm, yes, can we come to tea? We'd substitute the bechamel and stuff for the broccoli and some of the chicken and what's there in winter, but I understand where you're coming from. The tagine is a good idea, might add that to the list. For some reason we tend to associate tortilla/frittata with having people in, as part of a tapas/meze thing. That's daft, should do them more often.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 5:53 AM
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My favorite is chicken marsala night, but usually it is much simpler.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 5:56 AM
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NPR tells me just now that Obama says he sees eye to eye with Cameron on a number of issues. My sympathy to the Americans.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 6:05 AM
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144, 147: thanks to both, will try some of those.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 6:45 AM
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whoever started the no washing/bathing thing was playing a prank

I've stopped wiping after going to the bathroom to save trees and money. It takes a couple of weeks for your butt to get used to it and re-adjust, but now it feels twice as clean as before and completely natural! Everyone should try it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 6:50 AM
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different sorts of things you can bake salmon with. [...] Lime juice and chilli?

Mmm, and then drizzle on some dressing made from rice wine vinegar and dark sesame seed oil. (This as a post-heat dressing, since sesame oil doesn't do well with heat.)


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:19 AM
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I have started on an obsessive quest to find different sorts of things you can bake salmon with.

I think you can slather dijon mustard and some olive oil on anything and it tastes good.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:23 AM
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Indeed, and especially for oily fish- salmon of course, and my favorite, bluefish.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:26 AM
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I don't think everyone's going to feel your butt, apo, no matter how enticing you make it sound.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:28 AM
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I've stopped wiping after going to the bathroom to save trees and money.

Apo wipes his butt with trees and money.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:30 AM
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I think you can slather dijon mustard and some olive oil on anything and it tastes good.

Some things are just versatile that way.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:35 AM
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143: I have started on an obsessive quest to find different sorts of things you can bake salmon with.

You might have better luck with intense heat, ideally in a fairly small, confined space. Some method of adjusting the heat precisely would also be useful.

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Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:38 AM
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I think you can slather dijon mustard and some olive oil on anything and it tastes good.

I question whether this would apply to Apo's butt if he's stopped wiping it.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:48 AM
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Apo wipes his butt with trees and money.

Not any more!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:52 AM
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So I am not currently denying you trees or money.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 7:58 AM
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I thought the neck of a goose was canonical?


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 8:33 AM
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Apo wipes his butt with the neck of a goose?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 8:35 AM
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"A baby doesn't wipe its ass."
"A cow doesn't wipe its ass."
"Apo doesn't wipe his ass."

This last at any rate—one would like to say—is obviously true! It is even surer than that a cow doesn't do it. And yet it is not so clear. For with what could Apo's ass be wiped? A cow doesn't use toilet paper. And neither, of course, does it use a bidet; but no one means that when he says a cow doesn't wipe its ass. Why, suppose one were to say: a goose comes along and moves its neck between Apo's ass cheeks, so Apo has toilet paper in the neck of a goose. This would not be absurd, because one has no notion in advance what could possibly serve to wipe his ass, which is more disgusting than the Augean stables.


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Apo wipes his butt with the neck of a goose?

You ought to see him take a gander.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 8:49 AM
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more disgusting than the Augean stables

See, that's what you'd think. But after a couple of weeks of not removing your ass' own natural self-cleansing oils, it practically sparkles! No more of that not-so-fresh feeling!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 8:50 AM
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re: 169

Well, it's the nicest thing (allegedly).

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gargantua/Chapter_XIII


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:02 AM
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your ass' own natural self-cleansing oils

If it's oily, you need to cut back on the olestra-fried stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:03 AM
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...reinforcing my own translation of "rabélaisien" as "not very funny".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:08 AM
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Well I'll be.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:12 AM
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re: 175

I quite like the manic energy of some of it, and the fake erudition, but yeah, it's not generally very funny.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:20 AM
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175, 177: Thank God. I was afraid I was the only one.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:27 AM
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To paraphrase the late Robert E. Howard's Solomon Kane, "[i]t has fallen upon me, now and again in my sojourn through the world, to ease various evil men of their lives wipe with some pretty unusual stuffs." Out of gallantry, I shall refrain from listing them.

OT: My hamstring feels somewhat better. As if any of you cared! [Sobs.] Seriously, I think I dodged most of a clumsy, inflexible bullet.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:27 AM
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I'm having trouble coming up with anything to post. I've got a few things I already ruled out as not actually being interesting, though.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:48 AM
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Nobody wants to hear about how the sausage gets made, Heebie. Just feed us some sausage.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:53 AM
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Nobody wants to hear about how the sausage gets made, Heebie. Just feed us some sausage.

Every thread tends inevitably toward food. Let's see how far afield we can range without breaking the trend: Board games? The latest sock technology? The jagged humiliation of calling people, day after day, to ask for help finding work? Charles M. Schulz: threat or menace?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 9:59 AM
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Work harder, heebie! More posts!

I had a vague thought that might have led to a post yesterday, but it passed. It was probably about my bike.

I think I may be in the process of entirely stopping having thoughts, as such. Moving into a more spinal-cord driven process of reacting reflexively to things. I figure either this will work okay, or if it doesn't I won't mind. Or, really, notice.


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Let's see how far afield we can range without breaking the trend: Board games? The latest sock technology? The jagged humiliation of calling people, day after day, to ask for help finding work? Charles M. Schulz: threat or menace?

I am willing to bet that urple has eaten, or is considering eating, all of the above.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:04 AM
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Should I get lunch at Arby's, which would be very cheap because I have a coupon, or go to a Chinese restaurant, which would cost more but I would get something passably healthy like beer with broccoli?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:05 AM
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All the major food groups: Carbs, hops, and cruciferous vegetables.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:06 AM
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I can't have beer until 2:00 on Friday.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:07 AM
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The philosophers around here might be interested in this interview with Laurie Paul that got linked someplace. Her description of how she got into philosophy after not doing any in undergrad makes her sound like a superhero of the implausibly-advanced-mental powers type.


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185: Arby's is probably as healthy as the Chinese food. In that "valedictorian of summer school" sense.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:14 AM
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Two new posts! I'm a little reckless at times.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:28 AM
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189: Done.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:36 AM
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But now you don't have a coupon anymore.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:36 AM
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I had gazpacho for lunch and it was awesome. And I got to park for free in that parking lot about which they made a movie. (And I haven't had a post idea in days, so thanks for being prolific, heebers.)


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192: There are more coupons available than there are days before the coupons expire that I am willing to eat at Arby's.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:40 AM
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so thanks for being prolific, heebers,

My strategy is to act like a catty bitch.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:41 AM
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I'm having trouble coming up with anything to post. I've got a few things I already ruled out as not actually being interesting, though.

How about a music thread - that might not turn into a food thread.

My suggestion would be to ask for recommendations for music that's squarely mainstream "classic rock", from decades ago, nothing progressive, that is just as good as the Bostons and the Kansases and even the Blue Oyster Cults but never got added to the tiny classic rock canon. There are tons of obscure records out there, what are the good ones? I just discovered the band "Stone the Crows" and like them a lot.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:46 AM
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Oooh, that's some really subtle trolling, Ned.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-25-11 10:47 AM
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And I got to park for free in that parking lot about which they made a movie.

This one?


Posted by: M/tch M/lls | Link to this comment | 05-26-11 5:14 AM
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Most mums cook just nine different meals, study says http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/6574462/Mothers-rely-on-just-nine-different-meals-to-feed-families.html

quite a few of those sounds alike. I consider these to be my meals:

stir fry
curry
tacos
slab o meat with side veg (usually steamed broccoli or grilled aspergus)
tomato and peanut stew with kale and cowpeas

less often:
boillabaise
chili
chinese stewed chicken hearts and gizzards with bocchoi

I think the main challenge is finding a word that is used by someone in an english language cookbook to describe a variation on my usual themes.


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i post 199


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Any of the front-page posters who is facebook friends with Emerson should just steal links from him. Then maybe he'd come around.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-26-11 5:58 PM
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And I hear that apostropher's mother prefers her lovers soaped.


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