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Awkward, certainly, but he actually makes some good points.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 8-11 9:52 PM
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I thought it would be much worse than it was. 90% of my cringeing was in anticipation of awkwardness that never arrived.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 07- 8-11 10:40 PM
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What was he going for in that exchange?


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 1:27 AM
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3: Going for "cool", I think. If only he played the bass [*snicker*].


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 7:06 AM
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 7:18 AM
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3: Well, the first half looks like it would vaguely appeal to the center and right. Lists half a dozen country singers, but says his all-time favorite is Bruce Springsteen, who is personally liberal but was used by Reagan and sounds all blue-collar and shit. Then in the second half, he talks really in-depth and approvingly about Lady Gaga. He's not gushing, he's not a die-hard fan, but he makes it clear that he's familiar with her work and enjoys it.

So is the first part just calculated pandering, or the second part, or both? The second part actually seems more detailed and genuine than the first part, but it's hard to believe. Before the nomination he should still be pandering furiously and shamelessly to his base, not citing Springsteen by name and spending more time talking about Gaga than anyone else.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:04 AM
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I think the Gaga part seems pretty genuine.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:10 AM
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7: I do, too, if someone staged (as in, he knew he was going to bring it up). I just think he's a total dork.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:18 AM
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Yeah, I dunno, I think that didn't have to sound as corny as it did. There's plenty of Republicans that go to the Basilica Block Party or the Fine Line. I don't believe he actually likes either Lady Gaga or a bunch of country singers. Springsteen I could see. If he just copped to mostly liking dad music, people would believe it, and he might actually score some points for being honest and charmingly unhip. As it was, he just sounded forced.

If I was doing Pawlenty's messaging, I'd keep him on "I lowered taxes and I like playing hockey". Might not do much better that way, but trying to fit him into some Obamaesque model of hipness is never, ever going to work.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:34 AM
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P.S. "Born This Way" reminds me of nothing so much as that part in American Psycho where Patrick Bateman is talking about all the insipid early-80s pop.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:37 AM
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If I remember it right from last night, the most aggravating part was the three reporters faux "what a crazy conversation he's taking us down!" -ness.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:38 AM
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11: I thought their pose was, "Hey, *we* ask all the idiotic pointless questions around here!"


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:46 AM
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9: Springsteen isn't "dad music" these days? Pawlenty was born in 1960.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 9:02 AM
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Springsteen appeared on the covers of Time and Newsweek in 1975. Time and Newsweek were what we called "newsmagazines" back in the day. They were printed on paper.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 10:13 AM
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I have a slip 'n' slide!


Posted by: Pauly Shore | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 11:50 AM
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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 1:42 PM
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Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 2:47 PM
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13: No, he is dad music, perhaps I was unclear.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:34 PM
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Ah, I read too quickly.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 8:44 PM
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I thought that was some kind of comedy impersonator type thing at first -- never seen Pawlenty on TV before. That is one man who is never, ever, ever going to be President of the United States.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 07- 9-11 9:46 PM
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17. Yes I saw something about that. Astonishing. Unfortunately my second thought was, "How are the ID nuts going to spin this?"


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-10-11 3:07 AM
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21: "How are the ID nuts going to spin this?"

Righty-tighty, lefty-loosey.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-10-11 6:39 AM
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The very end was the most awkward part, I thought. His political instincts led him to bring up the fact that most good artists aren't conservatives? Oh well, at least he can fall back on his looks.


Posted by: eliot | Link to this comment | 07-10-11 11:37 AM
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