Re: Geogoofy

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My favorite for that sort of thing is the USPS international postage calculation site here.

Check out the drop-down menu at the top under Select a Destination.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 7:49 PM
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Eritrea is one that does not naturally pop to mind as a separate country for me as it was a province of Ethiopia through my formative years and a long time after that. And because I'm an imperialist.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 7:50 PM
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1: Neat. And reminds me that a Venezuelan friend reports USians often mishearing her nationality as "Minnesotan".


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 7:54 PM
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I also recently realized that I didn't have Yosemite and Yellowstone Parks mentally filed away as two separate places.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:01 PM
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1: That flag link that Carp linked the other day had tons of obscure places as well (of course included random cities etc.) ... but they are all places.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:04 PM
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There's even a South Sudan, these days.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:16 PM
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6: The friend in the OP had heard that news, actually.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:17 PM
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Does your friend know about East Timor?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:22 PM
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8: Dunno. I'd guess yes.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:38 PM
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What about Lower Slobbovia?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:39 PM
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Eritrea is interesting (in my very white-people way) because there was a point where the local "Ethiopian" restaurants had to double down on being Ethiopian restaurants or declare themselves Eritrean restaurants. Small sample size, admittedly.

I have yet to see Timorese cuisine.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:46 PM
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Anyone still remember Upper Volta? I once took the autogiro there from Siam.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 8:53 PM
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Eritrea? I've never even met 'er.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 9:27 PM
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I've been to Upper Volta! They kept calling it something else though. It was probably just whatever "Upper Volta" is in French.

11: I've seen that a little bit in MSP, there being one bar/restraunt that declared itself Eritrean/Eithiopian, while still being primarily known for hosting a lot of raggae shows and selling Red Stripe. Strangely, I haven't seen any restaurants declare themselves Oromo, despite a good chuck of the Eithiopian population here being Oromo nationalists, complete with separatist Oromia flags on the backs of their cars.


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 9:29 PM
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I've only learned the locations of many places, expecially the former SSRs, in the last couple of years by playing that Travl Findr map clicking game.


Posted by: Jimmy Pongo | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 9:32 PM
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15: Like freaking Bouvet Island.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 9:38 PM
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4 Jesus, Stanley.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-12-11 10:54 PM
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I have yet to see Timorese cuisine.

I have a friend who's a bit of a foodie and goes to East Timor fairly often. If you want a report, I'll ask him.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 12:01 AM
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14: Upper Volta is now Burkina Faso. Giant Panda Guerrilla Dub Squad can educate you on the finer points.

And nice try, Stanley, but your foodblogging has made your anti-Bhutanese stance plain for a long time now. Not one Bhutanese dish. Not one. Coincidence? I think not.


Posted by: DS | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 12:06 AM
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There's a New Zealand?


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 3:10 AM
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There's a Great Britain?


Posted by: Keir | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 3:22 AM
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There's a Bishop Auckland?


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 4:16 AM
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¦¦
There's a Sofitel in Nanjing, and I've been resisting the urge to point to it and say, "That must be where the rape of Nanking happens!"
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Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 4:40 AM
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Bhutan is lovely and the people are very nice, but the food isn't very remarkable.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 5:56 AM
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South California!


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 5:58 AM
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There's a New South Wales?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 6:39 AM
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There's a Democratic Republic of the Congo?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 6:51 AM
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There's a Nunavut?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 6:52 AM
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True story: I first learned of the existence of Eritrea as a young intern reviewing unsolicited manuscripts for a media organization. I opened an envelope from one J0shua H@mmer, who had submitted an article proposing that the U.S. support the plucky independence movement in this little corner of Africa. I put it in the reject pile.


Posted by: KR | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 6:56 AM
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25: Two states! We want two states!


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:01 AM
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My 10 year old loves maps and place names. He know by heart the names of the capitals of for example Micronesian islands. Kiribati or Nauru, say. I am looking at a hand-drawn map of a proposed metro system for Dar es Salaam, done after lots of poring over maps of the real city. He did Wichita similarly earlier this week.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:04 AM
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maybe send them along to the cities? they might could use the help.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:08 AM
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31. I would seriously suggest you advise him to design an El for Dar es Salaam. The ac issues would be a killer.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:13 AM
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I've heard Bhutanese food veers between bland and sort of terrible. Also, they serve meat dishes, but it's illegal to slaughter animals there. If you ask where the meat came from, they apparently say "oh, you know. Animals die."


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:25 AM
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31: I spent half my youth drawing maps (often imaginary places--but I'd also do things like my version of congressional districts); unfortunately I viewed it as kind of a shameful semi-secret*. Somewhere I stumbled on the fact that Claes Oldenburg was a big map drawer in his youth. And I've met a couple of folks in real life and the Internet who've admitted to doing the same. Here is a link to a site he might like, The Map Room, (although checking it I see the blogger has a post as of June 30th saying he is stopping--but a lot of good stuff in the archives). Strange Maps as well, of course. Unfortunately the website of the guy who drew the maps highlighted here is no longer active, but you can see a few examples.

*My mom: "No one's going to pay you to stay in your room all day drawing maps!" Unlike her alternative of going outside and setting off cherry bombs** with Barney Graves which was clearly on the road to the big bucks.

**OK, she wasn't fully clued into the cherry bomb part; she preferred the generic term, "playing".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:32 AM
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Thanks; We've glanced at those, but he vastly prefers doing his own stuff or google maps of real places. He's branching out to population and income. Kiev is shrinking, I hear.

He considers topography in his maps, but hasn't taken much of an interest in statics to work out about how strong the supporting columns should be. At least not yet.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:49 AM
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I knew about Eritrea very soon after its independence, because I routinely went through the chart of countries and their characteristics that came annually in a kid's current affairs magazine published by Scholastic whose name I now forget. I remember being highly intrigued to see an addition to the otherwise very static list (I hadn't been paying as much attention during the breakup of the USSR, I suppose), and similarly again when Palau became independent the following year. When looking at world maps, I would always check their currency by looking for Eritrea and Palau. I had stopped doing that by the time East Timor came along, though.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 7:56 AM
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I used to suck at African geography, particularly at visualising the actual spatial relations, but now I rock. Why? Because my daughter keeps roping me into playing Ten Days in Africa. (Capital of Mauritania? Nouakchott, natch.*) A bonus is the hilariously semiotically overdetermined design (Neuland-style typeface all over the place, a board that looks like some BOAC poster from a 1960s travel-agency, etc.). And you can get games for the other continents too, so geographical mastery of the whole globe becomes a possibility.

*There's a Nouakchott?


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 8:01 AM
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Per usual, Wikipedia has a useful aggregation. And it does not really support my informal memories which was that of a relative dead spell between the massive de-colonization of the late-50s and early-60s until the USSR breakup. But a lot in between were various island colonies becoming independent with relatively little impact on maps (likewise other "late" full colonies like Portugal's). Bangladesh stood out. The various British colonies/protectorates kind of slipped under my radar--and most of their actual prior relationships to the UK were confusing.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 8:39 AM
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8: Does your friend know about East Timor?

Timor-Leste, please.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 9:00 AM
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If we arm Eritrea then we won't have to pay her and everyone can go home.


Posted by: mark f the occasional delurker | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 9:10 AM
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BR and I played some quiz where you have to type the names of all of the countries within some time limit. (Maybe 9 mins.)

Our friend's 14 year old daughter crushed us. I think we got 120 in the time period whereas she got 133.

It was humbling.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 9:14 AM
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40: Leste he forgot.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 9:17 AM
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39: I am rather proud of what happens when you sort that list by "date of last subordination".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 9:52 AM
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I've heard Bhutanese food veers between bland and sort of terrible. Also, they serve meat dishes, but it's illegal to slaughter animals there. If you ask where the meat came from, they apparently say "oh, you know. Animals die."

"Terrible" seems a little unfair. The national dish is cheese and chilies (one sees the latter drying on rooftops everywhere). I think it's a pretty old practice in the Himalayas to drive push lead nudge the odd yak, sheep or goat off a cliff so its meat can be taken but, you know, sometimes a snow leopard leaves a dead animal with some meat on its bones, too. But there is even a pizza place in Thimphu. The crust was pretty chewy, but, you know, cooking at altitude is tough.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 10:16 AM
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44: Yeah, I did that , and saw that.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 10:18 AM
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There's a surprising link between Bhutan and the University of Texas-El Paso.


Posted by: Grant | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 11:48 AM
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Geo-creepy: "They were made from highly tensile and elastic polymers and the first ones were trialled in ">Jersey."


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tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 3:45 PM
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Try again...

Geo-creepy: "They were made from highly tensile and elastic polymers and the first ones were trialled in Jersey."


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 3:47 PM
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(Starts hohum-supercreepy, becoming creepy-but-interesting stuff some way down...)


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 3:50 PM
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In 1911, how many Germans would have predicted that within 40 years their government would be testing polymer sex dolls on the Channel Islands?


Posted by: Knecht Ruprecht | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 4:49 PM
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35 --Hey, me too. Actually got the government to publish one when I worked for a state agency. (I thought it ought to be questionable if descendants/assignees of white people were claiming that their ranch was settled (and irrigated) during a time when the particular area was subject to a treaty with an Indian tribe that forbade White occupation. Sure, there were squatters. You think you are a descendant of one, let's see some proof. So, I had to review all the treaties, and assign a trigger date to each part of the state.)


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-13-11 5:01 PM
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51: In 1911 Germany was fairly scientifically advanced - in particular in the fields of chemistry and synthetic materials - had an aggressive naval and foreign policy and was frankly a bit kinky (see, for example, the death of the Chief of the General Staff from natural causes while dancing in a tutu and ballet slippers for the entertainment of the Kaiser), so, while the average German probably wouldn't have guessed it unprompted, if you'd suggested the idea to him he'd probably have thought it plausible.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 1:20 AM
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[The Nazi sex-dolls] were made from highly tensile and elastic polymers...

Imipolex G, no doubt.



Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 4:39 AM
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Natch, Jackson.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 5:11 AM
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54: Racist.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 5:47 AM
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Note the byline: DAILY MAIL REPORTER.

DAILY MAIL REPORTER is equivalent to the movies' Alan Smithee director credit - the reporter in question refused to have their name on the final product.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 5:50 AM
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I took that to mean "Actually we just copied all this stuff from this guy's book, which go read."


Posted by: tierce de lollardie | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 5:54 AM
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And I guess the roots of Barbie in a German "sex" doll were fairly well known (mentioned in Wikipedia)--but not by me.

'I was actually researching the history of the Barbie doll that was based on a German sex doll of the 1950s.
'Ruth and Elliot Handler from America visited Germany in 1956 and saw the Lilli dolls that were sold in barbers' shops and nightclubs - and were not for children.
'Ruth didn't realise this and bought one and realised later they were not toys. But Ruth and her husband used the doll as a foundation for what became Barbie.
So Rat Race was onto something with the Barbie/Klaus Barbie Museum.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-14-11 6:01 AM
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