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Ent so sure. First four notes, yes, but then they go in different directions. I don't know much about this sort of thing, but couldn't those four notes just be a chord they both chose?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 8:45 AM
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It (the Pumped Up Kicks tune) sounds like a descending minor arpeggio (Fm or m7 starting on Eb, maybe?). They both have a descending 4/5 note bit at the start of the chorus but it doesn't sound, to me, like the same notes.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:21 AM
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However, I have a really shitty ear, and have been hilariously wrong about what the actual notes of tunes are in the past.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:22 AM
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Just another example of Cleveland getting ripped off.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:30 AM
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I have a tin ear, but after hearing the Foster the People song I usually end up with "all the little chicks . . ." stuck in my head. Now I know why!


Posted by: mark f the occasional delurker | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:30 AM
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Right, I shouldn't have said the same notes; I meant the same chord in a different key.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:42 AM
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The Foster the People singer's voice is incredible generic though, which might be why it sounds like something else. High pitched and harmonised. In that long line of 'people who sing a bit like Neil Young.'

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I think one's major and the other's minor and they aren't the relative minors of each other. So more general than the same chord in a different key, more like: 'a descending arpeggio', although the rhythm of the melody is very similar, too. Although I'm happy to be corrected if someone else has a better ear than me.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 9:47 AM
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I just put a record on, and as the bassline for the first song came on, I thought "huh, that bassline sounds a ton like this bassline. I wonder if they (the linked act) ripped it off?"

It was a Stevie Wonder record. I am an idiot.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 10:08 AM
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Heh at 8. Innervisions (along with Talking Book) is pretty much the only Stevie Wonder album where I can stick the whole album.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 10:24 AM
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Thef irst time I heard the former song I actually thought it was a cover of the latter song. Possibly by Peter, Bjorn and John.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 10:34 AM
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Hah. 10 was true for me as well. Also, the video really brings home how young these kids look today.

9 surprises me. Songs in the Key of Life? Hotter than July?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 10:52 AM
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Don't like Songs in the Key of Life much at all. For me that's well into the downward slide. I don't really like the sort of melody writing he got into, or the noodly playing, or the over-sweetness of some of it. It's got good songs on it, but, meh. I bought it, years back, thinking it was supposed to be great, when I was listening to Innervisions a lot, but I barely listened to it as I didn't really get on with it. He was better when other people were more heavily involved with production. For me, anyway.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:06 AM
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Is this the thread where the relatively tin-eared can ask about songs that sound similar to them? When I heard "It Don't Come Easy" back in the day, the guitar riff reminded me of Creams's "Badge". So via the 'tubes it appears both have arpeggio guitar riffs using Leslie speakers and were probably written by George Harrison (it seems he only played on the Ringo Starr song). Does the music similarity extend beyond that to actual note and chord sequences? Or am I just associating the "effects".


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:17 AM
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Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:33 AM
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14: I was quite surprised to discover that no part of it was euphemistic.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:37 AM
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15: "Diamond-encrusted Soda Stream" caught me a bit off-guard at the end.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:43 AM
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Yeah, I expected badger den to be UK slang for strip club.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:44 AM
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I can't image there _really_ is a lot of money in Ramsay-lookalike dwarf porn.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:46 AM
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Who encrusts with diamonds a device used for cheaply making carbonated beverages in an environmentally-friendly fashion? (Gordon Ramsay's dwarf porn double Percy Foster, that's who.)


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:47 AM
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I think the real appeal of the headline is that it's almost entirely trochaic.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:47 AM
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I'm thinking it is some kind of complicated hoax at this point. "Diamond-encrusted Soda Stream" for one thing and as noted on Gawker, It's more than a little curious that the internet, aka God's porn dumping grounds, contains not a single reference to either Percy or Dexter [Yamunkeh, his alleged producer, who is quoted - JPS] prior to these two news items. But that's just the cynic in me talking.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:49 AM
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21: My searches came up empty as well.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:51 AM
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21: Gawker says hoax now.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:54 AM
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Yamunkeh MUST be a made-up name. With his co-producer Tongz Yabass?


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 11:54 AM
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(it seems he only played on the Ringo Starr song)

I was 100% certain he played on "Badge". Yes! Under the pseudonym "L'Angelo Misterioso".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 1:02 PM
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Anyway, this is a way better version of that Foster the People track and the dude's not half bad at dancing either.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 1:03 PM
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25: Hmm. Yes, I do recall the L'Angelo thing, but did not have it linked to "Badge". I was relying on this from earlier in the article [citation needed] Harrison himself, however, has stated that he didn't play the aforementioned riff on "Badge". But, of course, I was imprecise and only meant to say he had not played that part rather than on the song as a whole.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 1:14 PM
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Foster the Ukelele, People


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 2:40 PM
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What's with her pronunciation of "faster"?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 3:11 PM
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She's English. Or is there something else I'm not picking up?


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 3:23 PM
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Ugh.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 3:35 PM
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Racist


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 3:37 PM
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Somewhere on the internet, I stumbled across the phrase "ultime favorite," and Google shows me it's everywhere. People really don't know this is the words "all time"? It's not exactly an eggcorn, since it doesn't obviously change the meaning at all, right? Or maybe it's conflated with the word "ultimate" somehow?

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Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 3:51 PM
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33--ultime is italian, is it not?


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:01 PM
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My favorite is the preverbal nail.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:02 PM
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Anybody know what the tooth fairy is giving these days?

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Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:06 PM
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I just ran across "gravy chain" yesterday.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:10 PM
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36: Taking inflation into account, it must be up to about $20 and a Batman action figure.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:13 PM
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36: We gave gold-colored dollar coins. But you probably need to have procured those ahead of time.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:14 PM
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Hannukah gelt! pour encourager les autres.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:19 PM
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A stern talking-to.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:20 PM
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40: Gesundheit.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:20 PM
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OT: (i) "Hey, Ben-Hur is on! I'm going to stay on this elliptical machine until the chariot race!"

(ii) "Intermission?"

(iii) "Entr'acte?!"

(iv) "Gore Vidal wrote this scene of gambling negotiations in the bathhouse? The devil you say!"

(v) "That horse is eating Heston's scarf."

(vi) "Yes. This is the day."


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:26 PM
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A stern talking-to.

Bringing new meaning to "avunculus Hector".


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:44 PM
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It's always enjoyable when I start to write a pause-play query or plaint, but putting it into words for this forum leads me to answer my own question.

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 4:53 PM
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That's more enjoyable than drafting such a thing and realizing you should probably toss it and try harder to figure it out yourself, since you can't even explain it properly.

Which, er, is to say that if you try to put it clearly enough, you probably can answer your own question. So yeah. Not enjoyable, though.

I hate gmail.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 5:38 PM
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We gave gold-colored dollar coins.

Excellent idea. I turn out to have two of these.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 6:06 PM
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If you've got white vinegar in the house, it shines them up nicely.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 6:41 PM
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Meanwhile. I am mulling this over: Amazon is charged with promulgating inhumane working conditions in at least one of its packing and shipping warehouses, in PA. Apparently temperatures in-house may tend into the triple digits (F), and paramedics were on duty outside for any employees who find themselves overcome.

The bookselling discussion lists were on this topic a few days ago, and I hadn't noticed at the time. Does one need more information? Perhaps one does.

I was surprised to see that Balloon Juice has something up about this. One early commenter in that long thread provides this reply from Amazon in response to his or her concerned query:

At Amazon, the safety and well-being of our employees is our number one priority. We have several procedures in place to ensure the safety of our associates during the summer heat, including increased breaks, shortened shifts, constant reminders and help about hydration, and extra ice machines............................................... Our fulfillment team was dealing with record hot temperatures this past summer. We have air conditioning in some of our fulfillment centers--Phoenix, AZ for example--but we haven't historically had air conditioning in our East Coast fulfillment centers. We're in the process of adding air conditioning to additional fulfillment centers so that we're prepared in case what we saw this past summer becomes the new normal.................................... Thank you for your feedback. We hope to see you again soon. Best regards,

Sounds fair enough. The thing is, the bookselling discussion lists turned up this place which appears to recruit employees, tons and tons of them, for Amazon warehouse work. Just read the intro text there! It is amazing: who wrote that stuff?! COME ON. This is a shit job, from what I can tell, but someone has some stellar spin generating skills.

Anyway, if you look at the individual job listings, the description of work environment, job requirements, and work expectations, well, give one pause.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 6:50 PM
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And I can't help but recall that the email that Amazon sends to customers who buy from third-party sellers (e.g. used book sellers) includes the line: "Remember, you should expect the same level of customer service from this third party seller as you expect from Amazon."


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 6:54 PM
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BTW, 51 is not me. Was having my tin ears massaged by Mussorgsky via Ravel via the PSO at the time it was posted.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 7:52 PM
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52: Was this at the PSO? If so, saw it last night. That ending is pretty stellar.


Posted by: Rance | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 7:55 PM
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Or, I didn't read well, since you said pso. was pretty great, I don't think I had heard that before live.


Posted by: Rance | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 7:56 PM
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Yes, it was quite good--whenever one of the musicians has to climb a ladder to play their instrument, you know you're cooking with gas. And the audience seemed almost more responsive to Rudolf Buchbinder's performance of the Gershwin Concerto (not a favorite of mine), inducing a pre-intermission encore.

My wife had happened to hear Pictures performed by the Cleveland Orchestra just this summer and liked the performance a bit better. I would now sometime like to hear the original piano work live.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 8:10 PM
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the s/b that performance


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-24-11 8:20 PM
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45: I dunno, I think I like it better when everyone tells me I'm a privileged idiot with unsympathetic problems.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 1:07 AM
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You're a privileged idiot with unsympathetic problems.

Glad to help.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 1:14 AM
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hey, thanks! you'll all be glad to hear that I got used to the huge dose of lyrica I'm taking for my mystery immune system problem, and its interaction with all the pain pills I take, and now I can have multiple orgasms again no problem. maybe it takes like 1 minute longer. and maybe total 7 per, um, interaction, rather than 10 or whatever. so that turned out ok. not perfect, but you have to make trade-offs in life; I have way more energy now and can do many more things, like run a (cross fingers, so far, touching wood) successful business. and I am in terrible pain less of the time.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 2:37 AM
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I know you were all playing on the tiniest violin in the world a sad song in D minor to my clitoris, but you can stop now.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 3:01 AM
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Noah lost his first tooth recently, and $1 does seem to be the going rate.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 3:11 AM
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The clitoris fairy pays much better, but nobody's happy to see her visit.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 3:12 AM
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OT but hilarious: Cain Beats Perry In Florida Straw Poll Upset

Hahahahahaha.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 3:49 AM
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P.S. Find your own damn link. Typing one on a phone is too annoying.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 3:51 AM
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Speaking for my clients -- the world's children -- $1 per tooth seems low. We all know that demand for baby teeth is at historic high. Why don't we let you sidebar to consult with the business side?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 4:34 AM
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63: And most of the headlines do not do justice to the size of the victory . I think ABM (Anyone But Mitt) is the operative concept for a good-sized segment of politically-active Republicans.

2657 votes:
Herman Cain: 37.11%
Rick Perry: 15.43%
Mitt Romney: 14%
Rick Santorum: 10.88%
Ron Paul: 10.39%
Newt Gingrich: 8.43%
Jon Huntsman: 2.26%
Michele Bachmann: 1.51%


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 4:56 AM
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Probably worth noting that Romney wasn't participating in the straw poll.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 5:10 AM
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How we discuss how they boo'd the gay soldier at the debate?

That commercial should run 24/7.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 5:22 AM
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60:

Barber has been quoted at saying that a 30 percent reduction in orgasms was his inspiration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450&feature=related


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 5:41 AM
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67: Yes, Romney was going to do poorly in this poll no matter what. My observation is on the serial alternatives they are running through, Bachmann -> Perry -> Cain. My God, Santorum was within shouting distance of Perry, and Perry did work this one hard. Bad timing for him in that it came so close on the heels of a public exhibition of his mad debate skillz.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 5:48 AM
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69: That explains why that song is so Platoonic


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 6:22 AM
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68: agreed. republicans booing at a soldier actually deployed in Iraq at that very minute. I want a continuous loop.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 6:38 AM
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69: whuh huh? I mean, I can see totally abstaining as a potential source of creative energy, and certainly many artists and athletes have believed this in the past, but a 30% reduction? 40% wasn't doing it? did he hire mckinsey or something?


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 6:42 AM
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I had always filtered that Foster the People song out as being, basically, bland filler. I'm a little surprised to find that the lyrics are so violent. It is of course an old trick, but the idea is that you create an irresistible melody and then sing about blood and revenge over it, not just pablum.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:05 AM
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Also, that Ramsay story is cited to the Sunday Sport, the newspaper whose USP is that it openly admits to making up all the news.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:07 AM
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Romney crushed Perry in the Michigan straw poll, with 51% of the vote. Perry finished 2nd with 17%. Romney is a sentimental favorite there, but still.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:33 AM
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Romney is a sentimental favorite

As odd a phrase as I'll read all day.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:35 AM
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77:

Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney says he isn't competing in any straw polls --not even the one this weekend on the island where he spent summers as a boy and where pictures of his father adorn the Grand Hotel and George Romney's legacy as a popular governor hung over the proceedings.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:44 AM
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77: We remember his dad.


Posted by: mcmc | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:54 AM
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Ahh.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 7:58 AM
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I will put down the quill on my arrangement of Debussy's "Chansons de Clitoris" for tiny violin now.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 8:24 AM
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When I think tiny violin, I think of the one eighth size violins played by some beginning Suzuki students. Smearcase, you pervert.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 8:43 AM
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When I think tiny violin

For the foreseeable future, tiny violins will make me think of alameida's hoo-ha.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:20 AM
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Maybe now we know why his guitar was gently weeping.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:33 AM
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It does give new imagery to, "I'm so playing my tiny violin over here."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:36 AM
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Alameida has many strings to her bow.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:42 AM
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Don't just saw away at your lady's tiny violin like some tasteless brute. If that's what you like, you'll find playing jeté or col legno just as much to your taste—and they produce a more sophisticated sound. A smooth legato stroke is a graceful effect and creates a most welcome feeling of connectedness, whereas staccato or ametrical tremolo playing are useful for driving a musical effect home.

A variety of bowing techniques is yours to explore together—and remember, you can always shake things up with a bit of pizzicato!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:47 AM
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Careful with col legno, though; wouldn't want to damage your bow. Maybe borrow someone else's inferior one for that.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 9:57 AM
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Keep your pinky firmly positioned near the frog at all times.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 10:02 AM
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Use sufficient rosin.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 10:07 AM
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88: players who concern themselves with such matters are no true lovers of music.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 10:13 AM
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Is it just me, or are people taking the straw polls more seriously now than they used to? If they are, why?

Also, is it just me, or is the dwarf porn badger thing still hilarious even if it was a hoax?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 12:33 PM
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If by taking seriously, you mean news organizations filling the gaping maw of needs for content -- feeding the beast with pitchforks -- then there's probably more of that this time around. If by serious, you mean does anybody think these things have any import outside the circus tent, then no, it's just you.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 1:11 PM
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87: Sometimes a spirited rendition of a jazz tune is in order. You know, a real cunning Mingus.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 2:02 PM
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Stanley, even you should be ashamed of that.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 2:04 PM
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In case it has not been told here before, I suppose this is the right place for the doubtless apocryphal tale of Toscanini saying to a principal cellist with whom he was unsatisfied, "you have between your legs, madam, the most beautiful instrument in the world, and all you can do is scratch it."


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 2:46 PM
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96: Rubbin, rubbin, rubbin on the darn old thing


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 4:18 PM
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Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 09-25-11 4:43 PM
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88 et seq. made me involuntarily cross my legs with "ow." the tiny violin was only meant to be playing nearby, in a spirit of directedness, you know, like the fellow with the lute down at the bottom of the picture and the lady leaning out the window to listen, or not, depending. ow rosin ow ow.


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83: given the "carrie" thing and my solid work here, perhaps that will soon be true of nearly every word, phrase or concept!


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