I love Kelly Link. I named my cat after one of her stories.
Ms. Link: welcome. You should know that custom here dictates that people generally not be Outraged, but OPINIONATED.
You call what you got a teamblog?
I always thought it was weird to have twins named Claire and Samantha. Too-matchy twin names are obviously weird and wrong, but these verge on being too different. Disliking Jessica and Elizabeth for similar reasons may have been the reason I was able to avoid the Sweet Valley books.
The best twin names are in Edmund Crispin's Glimpses of the Moon: Titania and Tatiana. Titty and Tatty for short.
Jessica and Elizabeth don't sound like they come from the same family to you? Huh.
Sometimes, rfts, even they didn't believe they were from the same family. Jessica was so wild-spirited, and Elizabeth so bookish and sweet -- who would have guessed, aside from their looks, that they shared a mother and father?
7: They COULD, but it was just so obvious that their different temperaments had been magically imprinted on them just with names that I didn't have to bother reading to make sure my assumption was right. I mean, twin names don't have to be Freddie and Flossie or whatever and in fact shouldn't, but I don't think J&E match well as twin names even if they're quite plausible within a family. Naming twins must be very hard, though.
Shouldn't there be a distinction between being a grad student and being a Grad Student?
If I have twins, I'm going to name them Hitler and Hatler.
I know twins called Jenny and Serena, which seem wildly incompatible and always jar with me. Jenny and blonde and sweet. I don't know Serena to talk to, but she is dark, and I like to think of her as the evil twin.
My mum once met twins called Noah and Echo.
I went to college with a guy who was an identical twin and had been named after his father, which seems kind of fucked up to me.
How about Er/in and Me/g/h/a/n? My supervisor's name and her twin sister who works at the same company and is often in our office.
"This program is haunted," Claire says.
"I know it is," the ABD says. "I used to study here."
I went to college with a guy who was an identical twin and had been named after his father, which seems kind of fucked up to me.
How is that so different from naming a singleton after his father?
My twins are Snow White and Rose Red. While in the womb they had what's called a twin to twin transfusion, one gets too many red blood cells or something. So when they were born, one was very pale, the other ruddy. One look and the names just popped into my head.
23: I think it's different because there's a twin who isn't the one named after his father.
Man. So.
Here's an interesting ethical issue. There's a group, Odd Future. They are a rap collective. They rap about fucking bitches and faggots.
They are booked to play at a festival on city council owned property.
A white, male, gay activist (Dr. Calum Benachie*) complains to the city council, who then put the hard word out on the group. The promoters drop Odd Future from the gig.
Odd Future have a gay female black producer. She won't perform at this gig now.
So:
(a) if this was the US, would the council have broken the First Amendment?
(b) should I be outraged at the intrusion on free speech, or pleased that hate speech is being curtailed?
(c) what the fuck. The universe is not supposed to set exam questions, right?
* His doctorate is awful. He discuss legal issues but is way way out his depth.
(a) If they have across-the-board rules on acceptable language, they're probably okay (like, if the interaction was the activist pointing out that Odd Future is slur-heavy, rather than the activist singling out Odd Future from a group of equally problematic bands).
(b) It'd depend on specifics -- I don't know Odd Future, but I'd probably be more on the "Don't need to have hate speech at a city festival" than "free speech absolutist" side.
(c) It's like you don't want the universe to have any fun at all.
They rap about fucking bitches and faggots.
It's considerably more confrontational than that. If you aren't familiar with Odd Future, there's a pretty interesting story going on there. Start with this post, then this one.
And just for you, LB, the Samoa connection.
Hey, Odd Future doesn't just rap about smacking a bitch, they smack a bitch! (Female photog at one of their gigs.)
Also, fucking Albini thinks they're too assholish to deal with. (Links gor both when I go get my laptop.)
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Albini is not impressed.
Smacking a photog.
I think it's different because there's a twin who isn't the one named after his father.
And how, then, is that different from two non-twin brothers, one of whom is named after their father?
I'm trying to scope out what the Unfortunate Implications might be, and I can't think of anything that's not serious jumping to conclusions - like being a namesake means the father favors him over his brother, or something.
Maybe since they were identical they could trade off every few months or so which got to be their father's darling namesake? Some dads really want namesakes. I graduated hs with a female "Jon" and a female "Mike" because Daddy wanted a boy.
(Thinking of twin names from high school: Scott/Jeff, R/o/xann/e/Stacey, Brenda/Laura. Neither interesting nor matchy.)
My understanding is that I ended up named after my dad (which is sort of unusual, in that I'm the second son, not the first) mostly because the name my parents had picked out, Maureen Elizabeth, wasn't going to work, and they felt put-on-the-spot for a name.
Hmm, twin sets?
Chloe and Willow
Annie and Daisy
Monte and Chris(?)
Dana and Anne(?)
I also know one set of identical twins in which one twin has transitioned. So their new name doesn't really count for these purposes.
The cat was going to be Diamat or Histomat, and if we got more, we were going to name them Tiamat and Automat, but we didn't start down that path, so if anyone wants to use those names for a set of quadruplets, feel free.
My father/uncle twins were Richard & Bertram, although they called themselves Hugh & Freddie. One had two family connected names, the other none. Meant nothing.
My father is an identical twin; he and his brother were the first two boys in the family so their younger brother got their father's name. Names were James and Dean--born about six years before the late actor.
I learned yesterday that a friend's uncle is a country singer who goes by Johnny [invented last name], because his real name is Johnny Cash.
It seemed trivially obvious to me that Rex Stout was a pen name, until I discovered it wasn't.
Albert Brooks's real last name is Einstein.
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I'm impressed how Fer-de-Lance dates itself to within nine months by referring to Wolfe shopping around for a good-tasting legal 3.2% ABV beer so he can stop buying bootleg.
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Chevy Chase's real name is Cornelius Chase.
Nick Nolte's real name is Gary Busey.
Gary Busey's real name is William.
How about Er/in and Me/g/h/a/n?
I think that's just called "Boston."
Bill Pullman's real name is Bill Paxton, and vice versa.
Colin Farrell's last name is actually pronounced "Awomanneedsamanlikeafishneedsabicycle" but he started answering to the more common pronunciation to aid his career.
If a father wants a namesake and has identical twins, he should name the first one "[father's name] Junior", and the second one "[father's name] the second", leaving people to wonder if the latter was named after the former or the father.
Returning to the original thread, I need to defend the Cape Cod Reduced Fat Potato Chip. Not a diet product at all, of course. Read the background information.
Fried first, then flashbaked.
My parents claimed if any of us had been twin boys we would have been named Od and Even, both of which are perfectly normal Norwegian boys' names. Knowing my parents, I'm not sure they weren't telling the truth.