## Re: It's Spanish for "the even"

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Perhaps this is an argument in favor of playing other numbers today. Because if you win, you'll probably be splitting the pot with fewer other people.

Also if they use up all the 11s, you can improve your odds by avoiding all numbers with straight lines. Stick to 3s and 8s.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 10:04 AM
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I thought that for most lotteries you had to pick a series of different numbers, because no single number can come up more than once. Like, for the powerball, there's only one 11 ball in there, right? So either this is monumentally stupid, or they were messing with the audience.

Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 10:08 AM
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2: I suspect they were referring to something like Pick 3, where numbers can be repeated, and an "11 11 11" ticket would make sense.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 10:12 AM
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Hmm, except Texas' Pick 3 game only allows picks of 0-9. So I'm not sure what they were talking about. But probably something like that.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 10:13 AM
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Eleven!

Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:11 AM
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...the even-more-unlikely-than-regular-lottery-betting-odds bet that the lotto comes up all elevens on 11/11/11...

My intuition is that the odds of getting all 11s would be the same on 11/11/11 as on any other day (were it possible to pick the same number more than once). Is this correct?

Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:12 AM
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4: Maybe the radio DJs in Stanley's state were talking about Stanley's state?

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:12 AM
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7: They just checked in to see what condition his condition was in.

Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:14 AM
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6 is circling around the birthday problem: it's likely 2 out of 23 people to have the same birthday. It's unlikely that 1 out of 23 people has my birthday.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:14 AM
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Did we forget to send you a card?

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:16 AM
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In this ever-gambling state in which Stanley lives in...

Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:19 AM
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It's unlikely that 1 out of 23 people has my birthday.

But it's no more or less likely on your birthday.

Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:21 AM
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MAE's 5 got the best timestamp possible in the entire history of the website. Congratulations. I think a prize is in order.

Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:21 AM
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I have had several conversations with myself as to why exactly "In which we live in" is dumber than "In which we're living" and to be honest, I don't get why it's worse. It sounds funny, though.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:22 AM
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You don't get why it's wrong grammatically?

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:25 AM
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It's dumber because it's completely incorrect. The phrase requires only one "in."

Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:26 AM
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Thought I'd just answer Minivet's question for you.

Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:27 AM
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13: I promise to divide the cash prize with Urple on a quasi-equal basis.

Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:27 AM
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18: You were six comments too early and urple was four comments too late.

Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:29 AM
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Math professors never have to break things down into parts to determine if they follow an internal logic.

Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:29 AM
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You were six comments too early
Euphemistically speaking, never good to hear.

Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:33 AM
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I suppose.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:33 AM
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Halford, I started reading Debt last night. (I put it on hold at the library on your recommendation and it just came in.) It's great so far. Thanks.

Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:35 AM
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18: You were six comments too early and urple was four comments too late.

We'll just have to rig the most eleventest thread ever, for this evening.

It'll be the most exciting thing since last October!

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:35 AM
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Somebody plan ahead so we can get comment 12 on 12/12/12 at 12:12 and comment 13 on 13/13/13 at 13:13.

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:38 AM
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Someone making a soundtrack for last year and this year should undoubtedly include El Ten Eleven.

Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:38 AM
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And somebody else change the servers so that the timestamps are in 24-hour time rather than AM/PM.

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:42 AM
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Oh, wait.

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:43 AM
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13: Ha! I just thought 5 was a response to 4 and/or celebrating MAE's four-fingeredness.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:46 AM
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27: An invent Decemuary.

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:47 AM
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And invent Decemuary.

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:48 AM
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11 isn't scared of 7, like that sissy 6.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:48 AM
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"Sissy 6" would be a great name for a queercore band.

Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:55 AM
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7 ate my top!

Posted by: 6 | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:57 AM
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23 -- yes, it really is. I thought academics weren't allowed to write books like that anymore; it reads like a 19th Century general theory of everything. But a very smart one!

Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:59 AM
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Jammies is out of town, and my tenure package is due Tuesday, and I just need some clear-headed time to finish writing some short parts. But I write best in the morning, and the kids wake up around 6, and I'm exhausted, and haven't had a morning when I could have snuck off to the library in the past month, and wah.

Right now is my free time to wrap this thing up, but I'm completely mentally spent.

Including "tenure package" makes this sound really big and scary, but it's really not. I'm just tired and whining.

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Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:09 PM
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I still want a modicum of sympathy. I could go erase the last paragraph if that would help.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:25 PM
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Write nice things to me now.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:34 PM
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I tried sympathy, but it came out sarcastic, so I deleted it.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:40 PM
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If you don't get tenure I'll riot on the quads, heebie.

Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:40 PM
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nice things

Truly, that sounds like an exhausting holiday weekend.

Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:40 PM
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Good luck getting tenure and completing the package.

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:42 PM
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No, say it like you mean it.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:43 PM
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If you don't get tenure, heebie, I'll riot on nosflow's quads.

Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:45 PM
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Suddenly my loyalties are divided.

Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:46 PM
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I am glad that I do not have to complete a tenure package this weekend.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:46 PM
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NICE THINGS!!!!!!!!!1!!!!

Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:46 PM
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My package is getting tenure at your mom this weekend.

Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:46 PM
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I'd watch your kids if you lived in Montana. Of course, I'd probably end up throwing plates all over the floor and just leaving the pieces there, so you might not want me to.

Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:47 PM
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49: Maybe I can just skype you in and sneak off.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:47 PM
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47: You forgot TO ME NOW.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:48 PM
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"Stop pinching your brother! Hey! Hey! Get back in the screen! No, a little to the left. No, I meant my left. Your right. Now tilt the screen back a little. Okay perfect. Now stop pinching your brother or I'm going to count to 3."

Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:53 PM
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You're hired!

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:55 PM
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I'll mail you a check.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:55 PM
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Off to go jogging.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:56 PM
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51. Now it sound like the rallying cry of a band of (very odd) ruffians.

Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 1:59 PM
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55 in light of 36 is why 39.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:02 PM
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excuse me, sorry to interfere, but my god, a tenure package due TUESDAY and applicant out jogging is an inacceptable situation

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:08 PM
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I just got a firm-wide email that says:

"In honor and remembrance on this Veteran's Day - particularly poignant on 11/11/11 - let us salute all the [blah blah veterans blah blah ultimate sacrifice for our freedoms and protections blah blah blah]."

My question is: what the hell is the part in the dashes supposed to mean? I genuinely have no idea, and I doubt the author does either.

I honestly want to reply to the email: "What makes Veteran's Day on 11/11/11 particularly poignant?" But I'm not going to.

Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:08 PM
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Yeah, no one should go jogging or do anything else self-caring if there's any sort of deadline looming. Who cares if you're mentally spent! Keep working on it anyway!

Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:09 PM
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Maybe because there used to be a lot of harping on how the armistice came on November 11th, 11:11AM, and this year there's one more 11?

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:11 PM
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Or actually 11:00, now that I check.

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:16 PM
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Nobody's harped on that much for a while, though, have they? At least not in public discourse in the US, where most people don't even know the holiday was originally called Armistice Day.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:25 PM
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Today is Veterans' Day?

I thought all holidays were on Mondays.

Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:28 PM
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No, only most.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 2:36 PM
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Apparently this morning in Yokohama, at 11:11 AM, it was 11.1 degrees Celsius. I'm told it was a big deal in the Japanese media.

Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:13 PM
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It's Remembrance Day in Canada. On all other days Canadians just forget everything at midnight. Fact.

Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:16 PM
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There are worse things than having a big and scary package.

Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:27 PM
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So how many people are now waiting around to comment at the 11:11 PM timestamp?

Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:32 PM
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55 in light of 36 is why 39.

Well, I can't go jogging once the kids are in bed tonight. But I can start working on my tenure package late tonight, on a Friday night, and dutifully toil while you're off making history by sexing a gray monster.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:41 PM
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In the dark, all of history's monsters are grey.

Posted by: ben frankin' | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:51 PM
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Sent an email to try to arrange a work-related meeting with someone I barely know. Got back the response:

De/al! ;-) (Ho/pe one can say th/s. |t means we have an appo/ntment on MOnday 10am.)

This totally weirds me out. Who writes like that? Why the wink?

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Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 3:53 PM
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Did you googleproof the comment or did they really type it like that?

Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:14 PM
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72: e-flirting.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:17 PM
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Inside of a dog, all of history's monsters are too cramped to breed.

Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:20 PM
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My only google-proofing changes are the slashes and the "|" for an "I".

Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:22 PM
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If it's e-flirting I hope it's e-h-flirting and not the other kind.

Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:23 PM
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Eh, some people just write like that in e-mails. I wouldn't worry about it.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:26 PM
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What's with the nose thingy? nobody writes a nose.

Posted by: | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:36 PM
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Halford, I started reading Debt last night. (I put it on hold at the library on your recommendation and it just came in.) It's great so far. Thanks.

I've also been reading Debt, and also liking it, but had been uncertain about whether to tell Halford, because I'm reading an unlicensed copy, and I feared that the knowledge would turn the taste of victory to ashes in his mouth. Oh, well.

Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 4:43 PM
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66: Flummery, seeing as Japan lost all of 415 people in WWI, none of them civilians.

72: My thinking is, a person whose self-image is as "the kooky one" in their situation comedy of preference.

Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:03 PM
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because I'm reading an unlicensed copy

I took it up with the football coach.

Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:14 PM
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Michael Hudson has been writing about the history of debt, back to the Sumerians, for at least a decade. Makes me wonder about theGraeber. Can Hudson not find a publisher? How much do they overlap? Stuff like that.

(And of course there is Steve Keen)

I know I'm gonna prefer Hudson, because of the class & Marxist perspectives logically preceding the state problem. Although Hudson does say that debt/banks are state's way of financing war. And I wish everybody else wasn't reading the Graeber, that makes it difficult.

I'll read Direct Action first.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:19 PM
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Hudson definitely gets cited.

Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:26 PM
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Indeed, there are 8 Hudson works in the bibliography.

Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:29 PM
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Hudson's

Here is Michael Hudson archive for March 1992

"The Lost Tradition of Biblical Debt Cancellations"

"Did the Phoenicians Introduce the Idea of Interest to Greece and Italy - and if so When?"

Archive for March, 1999
"From Sacred Enclave to Temple to City"

"On the origins of cities as offshore banking centers"

Which mixes Lefebvre/Harvey Marxist spatiality with history of banking and debt.

I am not at all calling out plagiarism, but just wondering about possible sources of inspiration for Graeber. So to speak. If Graeber hadn't studied Hudson, he isn't worth reading.

Graeber definitely is not in Hudson's class as an economist, he is an anthropologist. Maybe he is like Jared Diamond.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:30 PM
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84,85:My apologies or something. Maybe Graeber adds something. I've got the book. just need to find time.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:34 PM
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I haven't quite finished yet, but the early history does draw on Hudson, and I believe that the last chapter (which deals with more recent events) also relies on him heavily.

Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:34 PM
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My sense is that it's intended to be a big-picture theoretical synthesis rather than an original research monograph. I guess in that sense you could say, yeah, like Jared Diamond, but I dislike JD and I suspect Graeber does, too.

Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:47 PM
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Argggh

Gotta go. Today is my Wilfred Owen day, and I have been fretting for hours about getting to him.

I am sticking with Armistice Day. We already have Memorial Day, and the period around 1918 is way too important to me to generalize away from it.

Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 5:51 PM
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78 gets it right. I have trouble restraining emoticons in emails to people I don't know, because I can't give all the FRIENDLY I'M SMILING cues I would give in person. Nowhere near flirting, just indoctrinated as female.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 6:19 PM
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Or maybe English is her second language.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 6:20 PM
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just indoctrinated as female

Isn't that a just a thing. Grr.

Re: Debt, I've just figured out that you all are talking about (I gather) David Graeber's Debt: The First 5000 Years. Graeber has some sort of odd relationship to OWS, the nature of which I can't quite figure out.

Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 6:52 PM
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I was hoping that xkcd today would make some calculation of how many times in a century you can get xx/xx/xx by using different bases. Perhaps heebie can include such a calculation in her tenure package.

Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 7:39 PM
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The general pattern would get pretty fucking monotonous in binary.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 8:03 PM
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Eleven eleven eleven!

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:11 PM
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Malkovich malkovich malkovich?

Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:21 PM
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"Once" twice, three times a day.

Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:25 PM
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That should have been "thrice."

Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:32 PM
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Kobe.

Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:33 PM
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"Once, twice, Kobe times a day" doesn't make much sense.

Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 11-11-11 11:37 PM
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Right, it should be "once, twice, three times a Kobe."

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 12:15 AM
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Huh, slow night. It's as if you people had to work today.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 12:39 AM
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it was my sister's 30th birthday on 11/11/11! I texted her at 11:11.

Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 4:08 AM
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I have sister wit an 11/11 birthday. More than 30 on 11/11/11, however.

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 6:25 AM
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One of my office mates has a sister who's birthday it was on 11/11. Their dad died yesterday. At 98.

Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 8:22 AM
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105: +h

Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-12-11 9:05 AM