Re: Purity Day

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The bear was her father with a shotgun, right?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:16 PM
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This clip is from one of those vampire movies, right?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:21 PM
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Wait, what? This was intended seriously?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:27 PM
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They joined some kind of underground cult?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:27 PM
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"I know she's cuddly. Look at me, I"m cuddly."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:28 PM
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What, was this bear booked?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:31 PM
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It was a woman who brought sin into the world, you know.
A guy I know back in 1966 or so made the same virtuous choice the boy in the clip did. She grumbled about that and married a different guy who wasn't so scrupulous. I still see them around, still married. (True story. I could name names.)


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:34 PM
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Innocent-looking bears give surprisingly good value when properly aroused.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:36 PM
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That bear doesn't look innocent.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:39 PM
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The real purity bear is the late Knut, may he rest in peace. Maybe Siku?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:39 PM
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He's been properly aroused by the temptress. He had been cuddly previous to that.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:42 PM
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Relevant, but puzzling.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:44 PM
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11: Racist. Sexist. Sizeist. Oh, I don't even know anymore.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:44 PM
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Speciesist.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:45 PM
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Don't talk to Professor Linnaeus that way!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:47 PM
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The face he makes at 0:17 when being told he's not like the other guys suggests the real reason he turned her down is because he'd soiled himself.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 1:58 PM
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...being told he's not like the other guys....

Isn't that usually a preface to "I think of you as a friend"? "I think we should see other people"? "I don't think we're 'right' for each other"? "I'm moving to another country to pursue my dream of hosting a television talk show"? "I love you but I'm not in love with you"? "Your self-destructive workaholism has driven me away but we will never be free of one another as long as we live"?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:02 PM
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Compare and contrast.


Posted by: Brbo | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:04 PM
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The first rule of a gentleman is to protect others from embarrassment. A gent never says no to a lady, nor put her in a situation where she will say no. He should have quickly shook hands on the porch if such was his inclination.

As it is, this is patriarchy, in which the man is supposedly controlling the situation and protecting her from her worst instincts. This guy will always believe he is the one to determine when and how sex happens.

From her perspective, she should have gone down on him. When a guy's arms are extended at his sides, it is not so easy to push someone away. Hands on his ass keeps him from backing away. There are some excellent holds in Nu-gi, submission grappling, or Brazilian jiu-jitsu that are most useful for wise young women to learn.

After the securing hold, the young gentleman is back into the preventing embarassment mode, and will plead to move from the front porch. Mission accomplished.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:14 PM
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Just a start Lepri vs Gracie.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:17 PM
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This organisation, this video, this thread: they all happened just so that 19 could exist.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:17 PM
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Text on an other suggested video:

Sexual sin is destructive and always hurts someone! It grieves a holy God, it often brings disease to our bodies, it deeply affects our personalities and fills us with shame!

Somebody is doing it wrong, and I don't think it's me.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:19 PM
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How do I hire bob to narrate my next make-out session?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:19 PM
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A friend of my son's left HS a year early (with a degree) because of embarrassment traceable to turning a girl down. It may have been manageable but he told someone and they made it into gossip, and the girl's friends united around her in calling him a liar.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:20 PM
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I think 19 may actually be the funniest thing I've ever read.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:24 PM
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A friend of my son's left HS a year early (with a degree) because of embarrassment traceable to turning a girl down.

Wait, so, if he had his degree, wouldn't he have left school a year early anyway, even if he hadn't been plagued by embarrassment traceable to turning a girl down? (If he wouldn't have left, what would he have been doing?)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:25 PM
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Sure, he could have. But he could have taken more HS classes too. He found that he had met all requirements and could leave. A year more of schools would have given him a better resume for applications, though. He went to Montana.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:27 PM
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I failed all of my classes in 8th grade, and they let me go right on to the 9th. To this day, I don't know why they allowed that, and I don't care.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:29 PM
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Yeah, I basically shouldn't have graduated high school, but they let it slide.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:30 PM
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bob, please never confess whether you intended 19 to be funny.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:33 PM
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It doesn't feel right for him to go inside, but it feels right to have sex in a church in front of a big wooden cross? I should look into this purity movement.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:35 PM
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[I]t feels right to have sex in a church in front of a big wooden cross?

Mac: Why wouldn't we have a crucifix in the bar?

Charlie: Because we're a bar.

Mac: Right, but we're an Irish Catholic bar.

Charlie: We're an Irish bar.

Mac: Yeah, an Irish Catholic bar. Therefore a giant wooden crucifix is a celebration of our heritage.

Charlie: Giant? How big of a crucifix do you want?

Mac: Big. I mean, it should the the center piece of the whole room. It should dominate every conversation.

Charlie: That's going to be terrifying!

Mac: It should be terrifying. That's how you know God loves you, Charlie!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:37 PM
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30: 19 was clearly intended to be funny.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:41 PM
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19 is kind of awesome. Who knew bob could generate that kind of comment?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:42 PM
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23 How do I hire bob to narrate my next make-out session?

We really need someone like David Attenborough reading narration that has been written by bob, giving a nature-video perspective on human courtship.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:43 PM
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33: Speaking of gentle behavior, a nice woman at the gym called me a gentleman for letting her use the water fountain before me. I appreciate it, but you ladies might want to think about setting that bar a wee bit higher.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:44 PM
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She just thought you were wanting to discreetly admire her successful toning regime.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:48 PM
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OMG she was flirting. Your turn was to say something funny and explain that you just like being nice to other people.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:49 PM
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38: That would be a lie, which would violate his strict code of honor.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:51 PM
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and explain that you just like being nice to other people volunteering at the sea otter rescue while also helming your multi-million social entrepreneurship venture, cooking elaborate meals with locally-sourced ingredients, and prepping for an ultramarathon.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:54 PM
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Either she has a low bar or she appreciated not being exposed to your communicable disease.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:55 PM
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"What say you and I go turn that machine into an elope-tical?"


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 2:58 PM
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"Or an e-lick-tickle?"


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:01 PM
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"Please, bend over for another drink while I watch, ma'am. I can wait all night long."


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:17 PM
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"I'll just be over there in that studio, doing my German core-focused conditioning routine...Pilaydeez."


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:22 PM
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"I'm looking at your butt."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:30 PM
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"I'm looking at your butt, as only a gentleman can."


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:31 PM
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"Through my monocle."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:33 PM
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And the Unfoggetariat troops off lockstep to the dining hall.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:49 PM
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You mean "the one 37-year-old balding man troops upstairs to eat the dinner his mother made him."


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:52 PM
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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm eating peanut butter out of the jar with a spoon.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:57 PM
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I'm still at work, because certain jerk-off board members can't fucking shut up with their whining and grumbling. So. Far. Behind.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 3:58 PM
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The Unfogged mystique is crumbling under the hammerblows of inappropriately-released information.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:01 PM
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I'm eating peanut butter out of the jar with the peanut butter.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:02 PM
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I'm at work, because it's 2:00 in the afternoon.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:02 PM
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Was she wearing those fabulous Lululemon pants that make every ass look spectacular? (Obviously we hate them bc of the horrible company! But seriously, great pants!)


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:05 PM
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I was reminded of Hotel New Hampshire. Bear!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:06 PM
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The sign on the door reading 'use front entrance only' raised thoughts in my mind that this was going to be a spoof. Apparently not.


Posted by: Richard J | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:20 PM
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Wow. That's a horrible video. Anyone click through to their website? There are some gems. For example, in the "love letter" (under "Resources"): "With having an intense, personal and loving relationship with me alone, discovering that only in me is your satisfaction to be found."

** disclaimer: I don't entirely disagree with the theology described in this letter, but it is terribly expressed and theology was not meant to be used to bully teenagers. Tabernac.


Posted by: parodie | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:25 PM
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Ugh - bad acting. Wow. Yeah, the script was terrible, but the acting could have almost saved it. As it is - just a big waste of time and money.

But hey, you want to pay me for some bad acting - I'll take your money.


Posted by: Tripp | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:41 PM
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Was this video meant as a response to that "Just blow him already, but get off the intercom" one from a few years back? That's what it seemed like to me.

Also, anything with "Purity" in the name should somehow tie back to Nazi theories of racial purity, because that would be funny.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:48 PM
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The bear isn't telling the young man he shouldn't get laid, but rather that he shouldn't get laid with the young woman. Between the front porch scene and the chapel scene, there's an implied bear-sex scene.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:54 PM
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I mean, come on: "Look at me, I"m cuddly."


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:55 PM
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62: I don't think that's necessarily the case. I know a few bears, and I think it's just as likely they went out for brunch and then spent the afternoon looking at antiques.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 4:58 PM
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"Look, you're only sixteen. Rick Santorum didn't put his stuffed animals away until he was 23. That's what normal decent people are like".


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 5:00 PM
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It's probably true that any 16 year old who finds this video remotely persuasive shouldn't be having sex.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 5:02 PM
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Tabernac.

I am tickled.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 5:04 PM
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Late to the party, but long live 19.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 5:08 PM
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Little did the Unfoggetarians know that the terrorist attack about which they had been idly speculating was already underway, and would be directed at their compound. If any of them had lived, they would have appreciated the irony.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:21 PM
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So what's the significance of the bear? I must say it came across as creepy horror movie stylee; I guess it's supposed to remind a young man (or woman) of family values, but I, uh, did not see it coming expect it.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:32 PM
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The "angel on the shoulder" has been overdone, so they went with a bear.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:37 PM
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Now this feels right Nice tits.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:46 PM
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If the bear weren't so creepy-looking, sneaking up over his shoulder like that in life-size (for a teddy bear), and weren't such an unappealing bear to boot* ... I'd say it's almost clever. Let your teddy bear be your conscience! You remember, mom and pop tucking you in at night, how warmth and safety and security and family were everything ... you know they are everything! Don't listen to your bros at school; it's about the long game, the values your family demonstrated to you, love and honor and all that. I am teddy bear, hear me!

* My childhood teddy bear is/was much cuter.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:54 PM
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Don't forget the "you're worth it." Sluts are, of course, a completely different matter for the young master.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:59 PM
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Look, Parsi, the logic is simple and flawless There are some cuddly things, therefore do not fuck other cuddly things. Until marriage.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 6:59 PM
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After marriage, go ahead and sex-up what stuffed animals you want.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:04 PM
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74: Oh. Right. Our young female protagonist did, however, invite him in. But she was wearing a shapeless t-shirt and told him he wasn't like the others. Dilemma; clearly, when in doubt re: slutitude, postpone.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:05 PM
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She murdered the others. They are buried beneath the floor in the crawl space. When mom noticed the smell, she told her mom maybe a raccoon died in there. Her dad was wiser. He said, "Hold out for marriage and wait until he updates his insurance beneficiary."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:10 PM
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19 is awesome and makes me want to write a fantasy novel in which courtly young ladies are taught jiu-jitsu by some version of Bob.

That teddy bear is unspeakably non cute and not cuddly looking at all.

JE's story about the kid taking early graduation over bullying is sad, and I could totally see that happening even today.

I've seen so many of these bad abstinence campaigns I can't even imagine what a good one would look like any more. (OBviously, a really good one would be coupled with how-to-use-a-condom-if-you-must, but that part aside.)


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:11 PM
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The early graduation kid (now 38) is doing very well in almost every way.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:14 PM
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Was she wearing those fabulous Lululemon pants that make every ass look spectacular?

I'm sure I don't look at ladies' asses or recall that she was in regular clothes, obviously on her way out.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:23 PM
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77: You act as if the determination is up to her!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:42 PM
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Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 7:54 PM
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There's another Republican debate? It seems like they're almost every day now.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:06 PM
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If Ron Paul was the type of congressmen who voted in favor of things, some people might be upset that he's been jaunting around with the Santorum-Romney-Gingrich retired-grifter traveling medicine show for the last eight months or so.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:16 PM
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But what about the second video?


Posted by: Molly | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:20 PM
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84: The only good part is realizing how much Romney probably hates them right now.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:22 PM
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God help me, I'm watching too. Is this a less shit-stirring one than before, or am I just watching one of the sections where it's various unrelated questions in a row?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:25 PM
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But what about the second video?

It suffers from a distinct lack of creepy bears.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:29 PM
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I detected a bit of "goddammit, Massachusetts health reform was conservative!" behind Romney's last statement.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:32 PM
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89 to 88.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:48 PM
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OT: It seems as if dead bodies are disproportionately likely to be found near a certain museum. Is this because the current washes the bodies there, because people are looking at the river there, or because I don't recall the other corpse-finding places from news stories?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 8:50 PM
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It means it's a bad hiding spot for dead bodies, and you should find a new one.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:04 PM
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I love this Republican debate. I just watched Gingrich essentially call Romney a plutocrat, and Romney responded by calling Gingrich an influence peddler.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:06 PM
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They're both right aren't they.

(93 and 94, also)


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:08 PM
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92: Science!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:34 PM
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I've seen so many of these bad abstinence campaigns I can't even imagine what a good one would look like any more.

Emerson in the archives?


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:44 PM
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If reality TV doesn't work...


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 9:51 PM
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I've seen so many of these bad abstinence campaigns I can't even imagine what a good one would look like any more.

Attempting to keep human beings -- or any animal, really -- from having sex is a foolish waste of time, but a "good" sex-issues campaign might focus on the audience's preparedness for the responsibilities to themselves and one another, w/r/t health, respecting preferences and wishes, avoiding disease, discomfort and unintended pregnancy, etc., etc., without attempting to convince the audience that sex=Satan's Wal-Mart of Death.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:03 PM
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99: Some hippie took over my laptop and typed that libertine rubbish.

I, of course, think that everyone just ought to act like ladies and gentlemen.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:05 PM
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I think a lot of good could be done by a campaign encouraging young people to ask themselves if they like the people they want to have sex with. Let's not try to shoot the moon; just like each other, enough to be decent.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:14 PM
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That's hippie nonsense. Cold showers and coarse wool socks for all!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:16 PM
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Seriously, yes. A simple "Do you really want to do this with them? You don't have to do anything, you know" message might be manageable.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:20 PM
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Cold showers and coarse wool socks for all!

That is the traditional opening call at a orgy in Finland.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:24 PM
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No one wants to hear about how your koala got the pox, Moby.

Well, maybe Emerson.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:25 PM
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That final scene with the nearly makeshift cross and the blinds drawn still seems kind of creepy to me. I think what he means when he says she's "worth it" is that she will make a valuable new recruit for the shady cult* he's involved in and what he's really doing is trying to manipulate her desires in order to get her to join.

*The cult of purity, of course.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:38 PM
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I think a lot of good could be done by a campaign ...

Yes, well, that's not the point, is it? There are societies where people have healthy attitudes towards sex, and there are some filled with repression and guilt. The point of these ads is nudging ours toward the latter, and they're doing an awful job. Even if these people don't themselves sex about, surely they could hire people who do.


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:55 PM
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Wait. Repression and guilt are bad?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 10:57 PM
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Repression and guilt should be enjoyed in moderation.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 11:02 PM
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Repression and guilt are fine if you want to raise a generation of freaky perverts. I'm OK with those who know they are freaky perverts, but the ones who act out aggressively and don't know that they're doing it scare the shit out of me.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 11:05 PM
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109: Also true of smoked fishchicken.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 11:10 PM
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Repression and guilt are fine if you want to raise a generation of freaky perverts.

Don't look at me. Moby's the one with the koala.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 11:12 PM
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Damn! Now I'm missing my freaky perversions. Ah, the good old days!


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 01-23-12 11:27 PM
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I think my husband is more grateful than not that my parents, being a bunch of big hippies, let me read so many conan the barbarian comics as a young person. I mean, if you have to get freaky perversions from somewhere they may as well be wholesome howard-approved ones. I'm disinclined to speculate about my love of the ghost rider.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:13 AM
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114.last: Precocious recognition of Alan Vega's immense talent?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:19 AM
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114: The neckbeards would take tantrum-throwing issue with your "howard-approved." They've made quite a little business of defending the poor man's corpus from interpretation. Even John Buscema was never good enough.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:51 AM
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I'm disinclined to speculate about my love of the ghost rider.

Great character design is its own justification.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 1:04 AM
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The neckbeards would take tantrum-throwing issue

Apparently also known as "Newgate fringes" because the beard follows roughly the same line as the hangman's noose. Newgate prison being where the condemned cell was.

I watched the video and, I must admit, was utterly blindsided by the bear with the voice of Stephen Hawking. Was that deliberate, do you think? Implying that the bear is incredibly intelligent?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 1:51 AM
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If it's only going to be an Annual Day of Purity, that doesn't seem unduly burdensome to me.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 3:21 AM
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I mean, I haven't really read the link, but masturbation is still permitted, right?


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 3:22 AM
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 3:53 AM
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People who have not clicked the link in 111 should by all means avoid doing so.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 4:45 AM
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hey, I've read all the original howard stories and [many of--ed] the comics are great. I read them both at the same time. if you ask yourself "what would conan do" in a given situation (princess needs to be rescued from worshippers of evil snake-god; jeweled thrones of the earth need to be trod upon by sandaled feet etc.) the comics are quite accurate, in my estimation.
Even John Buscema was never good enough.
there is such a thing as too finicky, you know.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 5:06 AM
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"what would conan do" in a given situation (princess needs to be rescued from worshippers of evil snake-god

Well obvs he'd rescue her, because AFAICR (long time since I read any Howard) it was the only way he ever got laid. Which, for a barbarian hero struck me as slightly odd, but y'know...


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 5:12 AM
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Purity Bear should be careful.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAjDKdYcqnU


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 5:54 AM
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123: I like some of the new ones. The first artist they had worked really well, I thought, but more recently the art has been a mixed bag.

124: What about BĂȘlit the scantily-clad queen of the pirates? (Rather racist that she and Conan are the only ones on the ship not described as "coal-black," but it was a different, more racist time, etc., etc.)


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:20 AM
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And speaking of things that look like spoofs but aren't, Rick Santorum is launching a Conservatives Unite Moneybomb.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:31 AM
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126. I will defer to you or practically anybody on your memory of the details of Howard's oeuvre. It's been about 40 years since I read any of it. Have I been missing much?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:36 AM
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The pedia thing informs me that BĂȘlit is a good Akkadian word, which I had never suspected. Perhaps Howard did more research than I wot of. OTOH, Akkadia = northern Iraq, so pirates?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:47 AM
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Wiki says that she was supposed to be from Howard's semitic kingdom so the language thing is roughly appropriate; peoples who were naturally acquisitive. So I think we can acquit him of racism.

The covers and quotes on wiki are great. I've never read Howard, so wasn't aware of the Mills & Boon porny-ness of it.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:52 AM
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so wasn't aware of the Mills & Boon porny-ness of it

That was the whole point. After Howard cashed his cheque the franchise was continued by Lin Carter and L Sprague de Camp (possibly the best name ever), but the M&B porniness became more heavy handed and just got irritating.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 6:57 AM
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The original stories are a lot of fun.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:01 AM
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I bought a volume of the Sax Rohmer Fu-Manchu stuff a couple of years ago, thinking it would be camp fun of that ilk, but really struggled with the turgid prose. Might try some Howard.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:07 AM
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I think my favorite of that sort of stuff was CL Moore's Northwest Smith stories.


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133. Well worth reading, but you'll probably give them to Oxfam when you've finished them. I'd forgotten that Earth in the Hyborian Age was in fact Pangea.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:15 AM
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Leigh Brackett's pulp books are pretty fun. The reprint series "Planet Stories" picks up a lot of those works.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:18 AM
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I just want to be loved, is that so wrong?

"Know, O prince, that in the years when the oceans drank Atlantis and the gleaming cities, and the years of the rise of the sons of Aryas, there was an age undreamed of, when shining kingdoms lay spread across the world like blue mantles beneath the stars... Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand. A thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandaled feet."


Posted by: OPINIONATED ROBERT E. HOWARD | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:20 AM
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He sounds more emo than I would have expected.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:33 AM
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Macho types tend to be, he typed un-self-aware-ly.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:39 AM
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Speaking of melancholies, I hope the police have checked out the overly eager guy quoted.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:39 AM
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That would have also worked with "speaking of lacking self-awareness."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:41 AM
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It was funnier with hyphens.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:44 AM
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@133
but really struggled with the turgid prose. Might try some Howard.

I don't think that Howard could be accused of turgid prose. Although you might start to get tired of the phrase "mighty thews" after a while.


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143: Also, Conan is always leaping like a panther.

And the girls never wear anything that isn't flimsy, filmy, insubstantial, diaphanous, clingy, etc., etc.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:47 AM
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Sure. This was centuries before Ann Taylor.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:48 AM
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The golden age, really.

Story idea: Gentlemanly Cimmerian rescues well-brought-up Greenwich girl in cashmere twinset, returns her to Mummy and Daddy intact.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:53 AM
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Intact and with a stuffed bear.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:56 AM
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Love it. Is there a part for Shia LaBoeuf?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:57 AM
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The bear?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 7:59 AM
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147: the point being that the Greenwich girl remains unstuffed.

Sorry.


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146 et seq.
...and the father gasps, "That can't be. My daughter is dead. Yesterday was the anniversary of her death!"


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Alternatively, "Don't worry about it. The other barbarians usually leave her hanging in the tree."


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 8:02 AM
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You reprobates got no romance in your black hearts, you know that?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 8:03 AM
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My romance is in my red heart.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 10:35 AM
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No poetry either, apparently.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 10:41 AM
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The poetry is in my soul, my body, my every movement.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 10:56 AM
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The poetry is in my thermos.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 10:59 AM
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Not to every young girl is it given to enter the harem of the Sultan of Turkey and return to her homeland a virgin.

The most prosaic schoolgirl in England, Philippa Somerville arrived home from Stamboul in the summer, having travelled stoically through Volos, Malta and Venice where she received, with mild distaste, the unexpected bequest of a fortune.


Posted by: Opinionated Dorothy Dunnett | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:09 PM
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Heh. My mind went to Philippa Somerville, too.


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158 -- I'm not actually related to Helen Gloag, but my gggrandfather's sister married into that family.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:16 PM
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Poor Helen would have ended up in South Carolina, had the pirate not rescued her from that fate.


Posted by: John Emerson | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 12:21 PM
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Akkadia = northern Iraq, so pirates?

Akkadian was spoken throughout Mesopotamia at least as early as the Old Babylonian period, and later on it became something of a lingua franca throughout much of the Near East, so this doesn't seem so implausible.


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there will be no trash-talking of sax rohmer on my watch. my father's complete sax rohmer afforded each of us many hours of childhood pleasure. racist pleasure.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 01-24-12 9:13 PM
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Purity Bear, Purity Bear
Premarital sex he does forswear
Watch him lie
Alone at night
Purity Bear.


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164 is great.


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157: The poetry is coming from inside the house!


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