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Or, since it's also Florida, I suppose we can talk about the Zimmerman thing, which apo noted in the other thread just took a big turn towards the weird.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 8:30 PM
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The Miami Marlins are not a new baseball team. They are the same Florida Marlins, still playing in Miami, but changed their name to the Miami Marlins because they got Miami to foot the bill for the stadium.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 8:44 PM
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2: Oops. I had the impression they had moved to the new stadium from Elsewhere, Florida. Obviously, I was mistaken. Er, I think the broader point of the OP still stands? He's the new ambassador, anyway.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 8:49 PM
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Yeah, point stands, and I certainly think less of the team because of it. I also think less of the team because the alliteration of "Miami Marlins" really grates on my ear. Although its not as bad as the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 9:00 PM
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Can there be an "Oakland Warriors" now? They don't have to win - they must be the worst longstanding franchise in the NBA at this point - just no more of this Golden State crap.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 9:08 PM
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1: Seriously weird. "You can stop looking in Florida," [Hal Uhrig, former attorney for George Zimmerman] said. "Look much farther away than that."

So: look where, exactly, or even approximately? and how much farther away (Lima, Peru? Kamloops, BC? Uhrig's basement in [Sanford? or some other town?], Florida?)?

This is like a really bad reality TV show gone off-script in a very bad way, except that it's all too real.

I still doubt that Zimmerman will ever serve a day in prison for his killing of an unarmed 17-year old kid. I still maintain that "stand your ground" laws are totally crazy, and actually quite recent, vigilante-enabling perversions of centuries of common law castle doctrine (be your own cop; call the public square your own home; assume the roles of judge, jury, and executioner in defense of your own private sense of ownership of whatever ground you might happen to be standing on in the public sphere: just nuts, and completely antithetical to any sense of a shared public space, of a commons [Well, right: Gated community. In Florida. The lack of a commons is exactly the point. But does that mean that everyone should be running around armed with deadly handguns? Oh, maybe it does, actually. But totally nuts, obviously.].


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 9:30 PM
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the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim

You mean the West Covina Angels of Burbank? (The one good thing I have to say about M/att W/elch is that he used to mercilessly make fun of their name in this particular manner.)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 10:14 PM
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Ozzie is great. I love listening to him talk.

I missed opening day today at Dodger Stadium (ownership iv: a new hope) and am sad.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04-10-12 11:58 PM
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"You can stop looking in Florida," [Hal Uhrig, former attorney for George Zimmerman] said. "Look much farther away than that."

Hell? (Is that very far from Florida?)


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 3:20 AM
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I wonder if he's just fled the country to avoid prosecution? I forget where his mother's family is, but maybe he's got relatives to visit?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 3:52 AM
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Peru, as MC mentions.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 5:00 AM
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A "noisy withdrawal" from representation is very sensitive. Certainly Zimmerman's now-former attorneys should not make teasing allusions to his location.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 5:09 AM
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Also, we ought to sell Florida to Germany and have done with it.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 5:14 AM
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[T]he alliteration of "Miami Marlins" really grates on my ear

Their theme song, on the other hand, totally doesn't grate.


Posted by: mark f the occasional delurker | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 5:41 AM
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13: Half Germany, half Quebec. That'll work out fine!


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 5:50 AM
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15: I'm close to "We'll pay you to take Florida off our hands," so any taker with access to a van, really.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:04 AM
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16: I will never tire of this.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:09 AM
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12: Yeah, IANAL, but this struck me as wildly inappropriate.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:29 AM
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I also think less of the team because the alliteration of "Miami Marlins" really grates on my ear.

And the Philadelphia Phillies? Boston Bruins? Los Angeles LDodgers?

Miami Marlins was the name of the minor league team that used to play there. Venerable.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:31 AM
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The thing I hate the most about Castro is the way he punishes unpopular political opinions OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE.


Posted by: Gonerill | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:35 AM
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Here is a nice picture of baseball commissioner Bud Selig sitting next to Fidel Castro.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:37 AM
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The other evil dictator in that picture is Orioles owner Peter Angelos.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:42 AM
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20 took my joke.


Posted by: JupiterGee | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:43 AM
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I still maintain that "stand your ground" laws are totally crazy, and actually quite recent, vigilante-enabling perversions of centuries of common law castle doctrine

Not to rehash the other thread but the law in very plain language does not protect Zimmerman's behavior. The police wanted a manslaughter charge. Again, I don't know what the hell is up with the prosecutor's office down there but apparently they're the only ones on earth who can't discern an obvious illegal killing.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:47 AM
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21: I sat next to Bud Selig in a teeny restaurant once. All the busboys were totally fanboi-ing him.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 6:56 AM
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Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:06 AM
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Ozzie Guillen has a long-standing habit of saying things in interviews that would make sense as part of a stand-up act but seem a bit insensitive out of that context.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:14 AM
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8. I played hooky from work and I went! I was with a Pirates fan, who felt compelled to dress, loudly, as such. I've never been booed by so many people in my life.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:28 AM
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Not to rehash the other thread but the law in very plain language does not protect Zimmerman's behavior.

This is completely compatible with stand-your-ground laws being a fantastically bad idea that turns American states into a combination of Deadwood, Tombstone, and Mos Eisley Spaceport.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:29 AM
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Dodgers down the Pirates 2-1, but there is hope for a new season. Beat 'em Bucs!


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:30 AM
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21: Here is a nice picture of baseball commissioner Bud Selig sitting next to Fidel Castro.

Yes, like the picture but the commentary at both your link and the original make my head explode. Apparently this is a "skeleton in Selig's closet" and Selig is guilty of sitting next to a man who "has terrorized his own people for decades". To be fair this is no different than any other aspect of the US/Castro relationship or the US-based commentary on it. The only valid conclusion you can reach is that Castro is our man in Cuba the way we've so effectively propped him via our policies these many decades.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:32 AM
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the alliteration of "Miami Marlins" really grates on my ear

I would support renaming the team the Miami Vices.

(On a related-ish note, I was just hired to play at a college party whose theme is, according to the contract, "Miami Vice". I'm genuinely curious whether the hosts of the party are commemorating the '80s TV series or the 2006 cinematic release.)


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:35 AM
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Or just the vicious practices associated with Miami.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:39 AM
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Or a missing apostrophe.

Store layout is very nice, clean. I highly recommend this store over Playthings (aka. creepy porn store that's filled with curious high school girls).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:41 AM
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This is completely compatible with stand-your-ground laws being a fantastically bad idea that turns American states into a combination of Deadwood, Tombstone, and Mos Eisley Spaceport.

Yes, every shift I'm forced by law into ignoring a bunch of gunfights in the streets.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:41 AM
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32.3 Wow! Can you do Phil Collins covers?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:48 AM
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29: I think the NRA ideal is Deadwood/Mos Eisley. I have had dealings with a fair number of hardcore 2nd amendment types and it's really clear that their idea of the way the world ought to be is heavily informed by Buffalo Bill Cody's wild west mythologizing.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 7:52 AM
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Yes, like the picture but the commentary at both your link and the original make my head explode.

I think the point is less that Selig is evil for sitting next to Castro than that Selig is a damned hypocrite. But I agree that calling it a skeleton-in-the-closet is ridiculous.

As an Orioles fan, I'm quite proud of the games my team played against Cuba in 1999, and think it was a good example of civil society engaging in diplomacy in a case where governments are being jackasses. I've even got a cool shirt from the game that the Cuban team played in Baltimore. Didn't go to the game, though - bought the shirt for $5 off a clearance rack...


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 8:00 AM
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Things Ozzie Guillen Says.

Ozzie's blog.

Ozzie on Moneyball:

Everybody is a good general manager when you have fucking Hudson, Zito and Mulder. It's easy to be a GM like that. It's not a fucking secret.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 8:06 AM
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24: I agree. It's a stupid law, but not that stupid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 9:00 AM
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32.3: I saw Miami Vice four times in cinemas. I cannot even pretend to have disliked it to be cool. I thought it was the best movie that I saw that year, after The New World. And I don't even like Colin Farrell. Or Jamie Foxx.* But I am a huge sucker for man-of-action-is-silently-dying-inside-as-he-watches-woman-he-loves-departing-forever scenes.

Also gunfights.

* Whose wussiness scotched Michael Mann's plan to set and film the final confrontation and shootout in the Triple Frontier area.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 11:25 AM
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But I am a huge sucker for man-of-action-is-silently-dying-inside-as-he-watches-woman-he-loves-departing-forever scenes.

Casablanca?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 11:33 AM
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Don't even know ha.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 11:49 AM
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Off topic (but treating this as the sports thread) -- does anybody else find it creepy that the next major basketball phenom* has (almost) the same name as Ender Wiggin? If he does make it to the NBA that is going to seriously mess with my head.

* I don't follow the college or prep ball at all, I'm strictly an NBA fan. He is the first HS player since LeBron James whose name I've seen multiple times. So I assume that most likely he is really, really good.

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Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 12:03 PM
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43: They're about 2.47 of God's little acres.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 12:07 PM
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45: [Cleverer joke about hogsheads and furlongs than I have time to make.]


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 12:21 PM
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41. No gunfights, but Tarkovsky's Solaris might be an interesting complement to Hollywood treatments, if you don't know it already. Also a great date movie.

Clint Eastwood from Unforgiven onwards is interesting for these in the US. I keep meaning to see Pursuit of Happyness in the same vein, haven't yet.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 12:21 PM
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41:Jdorama! a trend a fad, "a license to print money in both homes and theaters" The Japanese ain't afraid to cry, don't sneer at the beautiful.

(about to be remade with Jennifer Garner)


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-11-12 4:51 PM
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I have soft spot for Ozzie Guillen since the one time I ever saw him play live he hit his only career grand slam. (Once for spring break in college, some friends of mine and I went on a tour of the baseball stadiums of the midwest. Apparently youth really is wasted on the young.)


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04-12-12 12:32 AM
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