Re: America's energy crisis

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I don't think it's the premise for the ENTIRE Republican campaign, but the Republican attitude specifically toward environmentalists has been "They are communists and traitors who think animals are more important than people" for as long as I can remember.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 12:37 PM
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The LGM commentary isn't quite what the video is about. It's more about how America will FAIL without ENERGY and Democrats are shutting down all our possible ways to get energy and we desperately need energy. Any energy. Now.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 12:40 PM
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Fracking frackers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 12:43 PM
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Energy is necessary for life. You could look it up.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:05 PM
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More energy used means more entropy. The Republicans want disorder.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:29 PM
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The only brown person I saw in that video was one of the evil anti-capitalism protesters.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:40 PM
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"Present day civilization rests on oil and motors. . . . We do not feel justified in giving up what has come to the industry like a gift from heaven on the possibility that a hazard may be involved in it."

--Frank Howard, Standard Oil 1925 on tetraethyl lead


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:50 PM
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I found the the overly-long conditional/counterfactual format of the video confusing, until I realized that it's just providing a detailed answer to the logic puzzle in which you are standing at a fork in the road, and there are two people there, one of whom is from the village where they want America to fail, and the other is from the village whose motto is "America! Fuck yeah!", but you can't tell which is which, and you only get to ask one of them one question.


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:54 PM
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If I wanted America to fail I'd repeal the clean water act and coat children's playground equipment with lead paint.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:58 PM
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I am genuinely confused by the part at 0:24 where he says "I couldn't take it [energy? oil?] by force . . ." So is he saying that if you don't want America to fail, then you're in favor of invading other countries so you can pillage their natural resources?


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 1:59 PM
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So is he saying that if you don't want America to fail, then you're in favor of invading other countries so you can pillage their natural resources?

That would be a legitimate inference from the way these people go on in their day jobs.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 2:04 PM
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I would sat it was about the fucking pipeline, but McCain was about offshore drilling. Obama is nothing to cheer about on oil.

Post somewhere today about the oilarchies saving, instead of spending their profits, and why that hurts the global recovery.

There is just too much profit in extractive energy, disproportionate to a commodity that supposedly beats alt-energy on costs. My inner classical economist always wants to attack excessive profits as an obvious market inefficiency.

So yes, invade the Gulf States and take their fucking money. They can keep the oil.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 2:15 PM
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8: How about we run both of the frackers over with a philosophical trolley and then go for beer and pizza?


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 2:21 PM
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So yes, invade the Gulf States and take their fucking money. They can keep the oil.

Good plan; then we'll have enough money to buy the oil from them, instead of taking it by force.


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 2:21 PM
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And everybody has a share.


Posted by: Milo Minderbinder | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 5:59 PM
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How is BP doing these days? Still existing?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 7:53 PM
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15: The environmentalists and moochers don't want the American people to have chocolate-covered cotton!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 8:19 PM
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On a positive note, it looks like our governor's latest attempt to cut oil taxes has failed spectacularly.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-27-12 8:37 PM
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I object to the term "oil production". The more accurate term is "oil extraction".


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 5:54 AM
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Wouldn't the production process encompass both extraction and refinement?


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 6:01 AM
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I complain when I produce phlegm, but really the extraction is the problem.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 6:03 AM
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But its not oil that's produced during the refinement process, its gasoline, tar, etc.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 6:13 AM
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"They are communists and traitors who think animals are more important than people"

I hate communism and love animals in roughly equal measure.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 6:26 AM
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You know, Flip, there are reasons not to want to literally be Sterling Archer.


Posted by: Beefo Meaty | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 6:31 AM
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I can't think of any.

("I've never seen an ocelot! ... Look at his little spots! Look at his tufted ears!")


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 7:25 AM
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24: I don't see any important ones. Given his childhood and mother, he's coping well and is enjoying himself.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 8:01 AM
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I probably love mammals and birds more than I hate communism, but I hate communism more than I love most invertebrates.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 8:10 AM
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I hate Zergs.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 9:52 AM
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I don't hate Zergs, but I don't think you can deny that on average they don't do as well on standardized testing as Terrans.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 10:43 AM
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Sure, because of the cultural bias.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 10:50 AM
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Wouldn't the production process encompass both extraction and refinement?

In Alaska it's mostly just extraction.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 11:42 AM
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31: Right. Except the way they phrase the tax thing is, "lets cut taxes on oil production." Yet the stuff was "produced" eons ago, by mother nature. What they are doing now is oil extraction.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 3:26 PM
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That's a useless grammatical point based on dubious reasoning argued way too stridently. That doesn't happen enough anymore.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 3:41 PM
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32: I don't disagree, but as I see it that's not even close to the most objectionable thing about these proposals.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 3:42 PM
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Given his childhood and mother, he's coping well and is enjoying himself.

Thanks, Bh. I try.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 3:57 PM
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I see it that's not even close to the most objectionable thing about these proposals.

No, of course its not. I was just pointing out their framing is bullshit.

The AP article linked to in in 18, which was otherwise reasonably objective, referred to oil extraction numerous times as "production," and it struck me as an interesting and overlooked example of how our language has been shaped by The Man.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 4:29 PM
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The AP article is okay. I think the Anchorage Daily News's own coverage of this has been better, but it's in the form of a bunch of separate stories on the parliamentary machinations rather than a convenient summary like the AP gives.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-28-12 4:42 PM
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Have you ever considered journalism, teo?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:13 AM
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I saw that, and briefly considered applying for it. It sounds like they want someone with actual experience, though.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:20 AM
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39: They want someone who can do the job; actual experience is just a simple-minded proxy for that.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 6:28 AM
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37: Local newspapers tend to either have the absolute best or absolute worst coverage of local politics and politicians. For me the ADN passed that test brilliantly during the Sarah Palin VP candidate episode, consistently had good probing, but factual stories. She hated them.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 6:31 AM
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Sorry to be a horrible horrible downer, but my mother passed away suddenly yesterday and most of my friends in California are sleeping right now. Does anyone feel like listening to me talk about how awesome she is?
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Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 9:28 AM
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Sorry for your loss. Tell us how awesome she was.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 9:46 AM
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I'm so sorry, Ile. How awesome is she?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 9:46 AM
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Sorry to hear that. Do hold forth.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 9:50 AM
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That's terrible, Ile. Anything you want to say, I know that everyone will want to hear.


Posted by: One of Many | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 9:54 AM
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BTW, nice Repo Man reference.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 11:39 AM
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Bring it, Ile!


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 11:52 AM
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My thoughts for you and your family.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:00 PM
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Oh, Ile.

My mother passed away suddenly a few years ago. It hurts, it's shocking. You might be in shock.

Say whatever you want to say.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:21 PM
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I don't know, but I'm going to guess, that Ile might not have much to say for the next while, at least in a public space. Or, maybe she will. We are all different creatures.

Dear Ile, it's tough. You have friends here if you need them.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:33 PM
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Sorry, I left that post and then all hell broke loose on the telephones.

Thanks everyone. .thanks Parsimon. . .I think I am in shock . . .She was totally awesome. She lived and worked on four continents. This house is chockful of all the amazing paintings and painted things she made. She was a ridiculously, absurdly, unbelievably loving mother. I'd come home for a visit and sit on the couch and she'd ply me with coconut water and my favorite foods and then sit on the couch with me and let me snuggle with her while we looked at the week's New Yorker cartoons together. I dunno. She was awesome.


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:44 PM
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She still is awesome.

This is gonna be hard, sweetheart. Save and cherish everything you can.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 12:54 PM
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I mean, it's going to be one step at a time for a while, don't forget to breathe.

And your mom was, is and always be awesome. Which you know. Four continents.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 1:02 PM
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And, do you need any help, Ile? On practical or logistical matters?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 1:05 PM
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I'm so terribly sorry, Ile, and would genuinely very much enjoy reading absolutely everything you would like to say about your mother's awesomeness.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:04 PM
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How awful, Ile. Count me as another who very much wants to hear about your mother's awesomerageousness.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:13 PM
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Oh no, I'm so sorry, ile. Please do share.


Posted by: heebie-heebie | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:15 PM
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So sorry for your loss, Ile. Add me to those who would love to hear more about the awesomeness of your mom.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:21 PM
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My thoughts are with you and your mother, Ile. Deepest sympathies.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:22 PM
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Very sorry to hear that, Ile.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:24 PM
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My sympathies, too, Ile. That's terrible.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:25 PM
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Sympathies, Ile. And of course you shouldn't worry about bending our collective ear; tell us stories.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 2:26 PM
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So sorry Ile. And I'm pretty sure that you had at least one comment here before describing how amazing she was. She sounds like a wonderful woman, and please share, not just now but in the days weeks and months ahead.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 3:38 PM
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Oh, Ile, I'm so very sorry to hear it. Please do share anything and everything you want -- today and whenever. Sharing your mother's lively spirit is such a wonderful way to honor her.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 4:12 PM
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I think I am in shock . . .

Yes, sudden loss does that. My sympathies, Ile. Try to remember to eat, sleep, and so on.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 04-29-12 4:22 PM
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Ile, your mother sounds great, and a terrible loss to you and yours. My sympathies.


Posted by: emir | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 1:34 AM
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Oh Ile, I'm so sorry. Please share. I'd love to hear about her.


Posted by: wink ;) | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 3:37 AM
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So very sorry, Ile.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 4:27 AM
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Oh Ile, that's terrible and terribly hard to deal with. I'm very sorry.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 4:38 AM
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I'm sorry for your loss, Ile, and I'd also love to hear any memories you wanted to share.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 6:37 AM
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Ile, I'm so sorry. I, too, would love to hear more Awesome Mom stories!


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 6:56 AM
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My sympathies as well. Reading together on the couch is awesome.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 8:02 AM
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BTW, nice Repo Man reference.

I also enjoyed the warm embrace of my generation there. I remember seeing that as a midnight movie.

I am very sorry you've lost your amazing mother, Ile.


Posted by: simulated annealing | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 8:31 AM
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Really sorry Ile, not quite sure what to say.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 04-30-12 3:44 PM
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