Re: Farmer Bill

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Right, food stamps started politically as a way to deal with agricultural surpluses.

I'm kind of surprised the non-SNAP components only add up to $17.5b. Are there other subsidies not included in the farm bill?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 8:48 AM
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OTOH, this graphic suggests that even $17.5b is a significant percentages of all farming net income.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 8:50 AM
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Maybe there's an "energy bill" which contains all the subsidies for corn ethanol.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 8:51 AM
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Somehow I hadn't realized that the bulk of the farm bill is food assistance programs - I'd thought it was just the controversial subsidies to Con-Agra and Big Corn Syrup

RTFA.


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 9:01 AM
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I'm going to Nebraska tomorrow. If anybody wants any information on corn, I can ask around.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 9:03 AM
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4: If I practiced that advice, there would be a dramatic drop-off in posts.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 9:12 AM
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3: Good point. Though it looks like they converted the ethanol subsidy from cash to a regulatory form.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 06-12-12 9:13 AM
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OT: Is there a good site for appliance reviews that people would recommend? We need a dishwasher, and Consumer Reports has been useless the last few times I've tried it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 10:13 AM
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Is there a good site for appliance reviews that people would recommend? We need a dishwasher, and Consumer Reports has been useless the last few times I've tried it.

What's wrong with Consumer Reports? When I bought a dishwasher a few years ago I got one of their recommended models.


Posted by: James B. Shearer | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:43 PM
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When our refrigerator died, I got the subscription to CR and found out that they didn't review any of the models that would fit in our kitchen, which annoyed me. I remember having another failure with CR the time I tried to use it before then, but I can't remember what went wrong.

On the other hand, of course, it doesn't look as if anyone has a recommended site for reviews. It's maddening: there's no way I can figure out to tell actual reviews from spam.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:49 PM
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I like my Kenmore OK. It had rats living behind it for a while and has never broken, so there's that.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:52 PM
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Does it come with the rats?


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:53 PM
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They're optional.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:55 PM
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I've always had great luck with CR. I can look up something for you.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:57 PM
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We have a Kenmore Elite we like. The kitchen is open so getting the quiet kind was worth it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 4:59 PM
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Yes, I think mine is "Elite" as well.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 5:01 PM
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Classest.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 5:13 PM
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14: Eh, I should pay for CR if I'm going to use it, but thanks.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-13-12 5:13 PM
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Isn't this what the sales people at the department store are for? To run through the pros and cons of the different models?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 11:52 AM
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You could try Which?, which is the UK equivalent of CR. Won't help with prices, but consumer durables are much the same everywhere.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 11:56 AM
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19: That is what they'd have you believe, and to the extent that they judge that it increases their likelihood of selling you something right then they will do that. On the other hand, if they think it increases their likelihood of selling you something right then by feeding you a line of total bullshit, that is what they'll do.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:00 PM
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but consumer durables are much the same everywhere.

Your washing machines are very different (or were). They take much longer to go through a load, and the clothes seem less clean. Of course, they're more environmentally friendly.

Related question, why is dry cleaning in the UK so different from the US? My current dry cleaner advertises that he uses environmentally friendly products, so it can't just be that British drycleaning methods are less harmful. British drycleaning seems to smell funny too.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:02 PM
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These aren't car salesmen.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:19 PM
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23 to 21.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:19 PM
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At least I hope not. Buying your applicances from a a car dealership is not recommended.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:20 PM
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Right, they're appliance salespeople. Or increasingly in "department" stores, salesperson currently assigned to appliances.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:21 PM
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Are you questioning their level of product expertise, or their sales ethics?


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:26 PM
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Sales ethics? SALES ETHICS!!!??

Are you questioning the sales ethics of car salesmen?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-14-12 12:37 PM
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