Re: Always shut up

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TBS about human miseries is charity.

Wait, what?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:38 AM
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I think that means it's charity not to bitch to everyone about your own problems, not that you shouldn't speak up for others in misery.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:40 AM
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Jesus fuck. I recently met a few fellow recent PhDs here who talk this way, like, oh I am the sort of person who struggles against my desire to speak up for myself, and sometimes I just have to tamp down that part of myself that thinks I should be happier. Freaked me right out. They seem to think that if they give even an internal voice to desire, they'll end up dead or in hell or something. Freaky.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:41 AM
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2: Oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:43 AM
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The last one seems like a get out of jail free card if you want to talk a lot.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:45 AM
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I had the exact same reactions as 1 and 5.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:50 AM
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1/2: It's really weird to use "human miseries" to refer to your personal miseries, especially when they use "your own hurts" and "yourself" in other lines. They probably did mean personal miseries, but it's going to be misread more often than not.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:50 AM
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5: Heh

I can't get that worked up about it, because the poor woman has to deal with the public all damn day. Customer Service sucks. I think it's just her way of saying f-off.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:51 AM
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I thought the last line was sort of the point. Like, sure, okay, there are lots of times where shutting up is valorized but when we must speak up, we must? I don't really get the "always shut up" reading.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:52 AM
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9: Always shut up about anything about yourself. I mean: "To be silent when they insult you is love" is a whole lot of WTF.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:53 AM
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10: that's not just a rephrasing of "turn the other cheek"?

But anyhow I still maintain that the final one is the point.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:55 AM
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Of course, those comments were based on not actually looking at the link. That thing is pretty weird I guess, yeah.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:56 AM
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I do wonder why it is allowed to be where the public can see it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:57 AM
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I think of "turn the other cheek" as meaning "don't lash back and insult them in response". Being silent altogether is a really loaded idea.

I get that the last one is tossed in there, but I don't see it as the punchline, given that there is an entire column dedicated to when you should be speaking.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:58 AM
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I do wonder why it is allowed to be where the public can see it.

I assume because it was clearly her personal opinions and belongings. Tons of religious stuff all over her desk. Also probably because her managers are also religious and no one sees any problem.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:00 AM
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14: yes. I see that now.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:02 AM
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Er, to 14.2. 14.1 is I think ignoring the relatively straightforward textual interpretation of the bible passage (that is, ask 'em to hit you again).


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:05 AM
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Oh, sure. I just think it's terrible advice. And weird for this to be the most important thing you think people should see.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:06 AM
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Shut up, hooker.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:10 AM
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Calm down, tweaker.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:11 AM
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Fuck you, clown.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:12 AM
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I don't know. Third base!


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:14 AM
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Important to keep the context of the job in mind here. "To be silent when you are insulted is love" is terrible relationship advice but may be decent pragmatic advice if you're sitting at the customer desk at the assessor's office.

I mean I'm not saying its not weird and stupid.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:23 AM
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Ah, so she's preemptively warning the public that she is rude?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:25 AM
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I was thinking it was a self-reminder going the other way (ie "if I shut up while they're raging at me about taxes, it's out of love") but you could read it the other way too.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:31 AM
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I too assume she's more often on the receiving end of the insult.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:33 AM
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I want to put "Calm down, tweaker" on my office door, but I'm sure it would be a bad idea.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:40 AM
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Man up, stoner.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:43 AM
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Pants off, hunter.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:48 AM
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Knives out, motherfucker.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:50 AM
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I bet if you found a Far Side cartoon with some related picture, you could get away with "Calm down, tweaker" on your office door.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:01 AM
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Important to keep the context of the job in mind here.

Damn straight. Customer service at the tax assessor? Silence in the face of constant sputtering constituent rage and insults is a MAJOR job requirement. Whatever you have to put on your computer to do that seems fine.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:01 AM
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3: I assume you clued them in as to the true nature of their superego?


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:14 AM
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19-22 and 28-30 are just about the best things ever.


Posted by: Ubu Imperator | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:44 AM
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31: "Calm down, tweaker" could be the new "Christ, what an asshole."


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:44 AM
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Ring ring, hooker. Ring ring.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 10:59 AM
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If you liked it then you shoulda put a hook in it.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 11:01 AM
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It's feeling kind of weird to me that marriage equality and a ban on employment discrimination against LGBT people are part of the Democrats' platform. I'm sure the wording of the economic parts are more meaningful changes, but this is just something.
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Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 12:01 PM
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Heebie, what do you think of the minivan?


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 1:21 PM
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37: Nantucket sleighride!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 1:45 PM
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My only real response to this list of most profound wisdom is:

To love is to suffer.
To avoid suffering, one must not love. But, then one suffers from not loving. Therefore,
To love is to suffer,
Not to love is to suffer,
To suffer is to suffer.
To be happy is to love, to be happy, then, is to suffer, but suffering makes one unhappy, therefore, to be unhappy one must love, or love to suffer, or suffer from too much happiness.
I hope you're getting this down.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 2:13 PM
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I never want to marry


Posted by: beamish | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 2:25 PM
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I want 41 on a plaque...


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 3:00 PM
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Agreed with 43.


Posted by: AWB | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 4:02 PM
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Geez people. I don't try to screw with your income. Marry. Early and often.


Posted by: Will | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 4:41 PM
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The woman who helped me had this taped to her computer, facing the public. (Along with a dozen other little quotes and such.)
What the fuck.

I suppose the woman's list is a little weird and potentially offensive, but it would be worse if she had "What the fuck" taped to her computer.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 6:07 PM
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34 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 6:35 PM
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Heebie, what do you think of the minivan?

It's totally pimped out, so I love it. Aside from that I haven't really driven it much, since we just got the plates this morning. When I test-drove it, it seemed fine...for a minivan. I'm not very thrilled to be driving a minivan, but the bells and whistles take the sting out of that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 6:55 PM
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Does it have electric sliding doors?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:01 PM
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Yup. Boogie-oogie-oogie.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:02 PM
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The rich parents have those doors so school drop off is easier, so their kids have a better start to their school day, so they'll learn more, so they'll form a new master class.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:13 PM
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so they'll form a new master class
race


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:17 PM
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It seems to be a mix of races here. White, South Asian, regular Asian.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:24 PM
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At our poor school, the principals and whatnot open the doors to let the kids out without the parents having to get out, but I ruin their plans by putting Nia on the side away from their sidewalk and in a booster seat.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:26 PM
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38: The complement to that is that aside from Huckabee, there was very little marriage red meat at the RNC. Definitely feels like a sea change. I have no doubt that they'll all find reasons to slow walk ENDA because it hurts the feelings of heroic Christian Job Creators, but at some point the wind from the marriage sails is going to be too much.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:26 PM
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Being driven to school must be weird.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:30 PM
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"They drove me to it!"


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:33 PM
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Most six year olds can't drive themselves.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:34 PM
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I don't think I walked at six, come to think of it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:38 PM
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I was at a meeting with the superintendent tonight and he shared that he'd authorized a 3-block bus ride for one of the second graders at Nia's school because when her family called to complain about her commute he realized he wouldn't want his own second grader to cross that street. I wouldn't be comfortable with Nia walking the 12 or so blocks to her school on her own, so I drop her off on my way to work every day.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:41 PM
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59: You probably were still sleeping.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 7:43 PM
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8 gets it right.

I read it as a passive-aggressive message to the public: I will be patient with your annoyingness because it is my Christian duty; you should consider not being the lion to my martyrdom.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 8:02 PM
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59: Where you see only one set of footprints, I was carrying you. Because you were six fucking years old and couldn't walk. You're welcome.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:12 PM
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Four to seven were the jetpack years.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:14 PM
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63 was me.


Posted by: OPINIONATED HACKNEYED DEITY FROM BATHROOM NEEDLEPOINT | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:17 PM
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Yeah second grade I definitely started walking by myself. I assume Jesus got fed up with the laser space battle noises.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:34 PM
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Four to seven were the jetpack years.

There's a certain sweet spot when kids are dexterous enough to handle the controls without killing themselves but still light enough that the rockets can lift them.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09- 4-12 9:37 PM
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regular Asian

From the Bosporus to the Bering Strait, from the Nicobar Islands to Wrangel Island, the cry goes up, "WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK!?"


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 2:58 AM
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I walked with my Mom (the school was really close and we walked everywhere on Beacon Hill) until the second grade. In third grade I walked on my own.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 3:57 AM
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8/62: I don't think I'm shitting all over the public servant to boggle at the fact that someone else wrote and distributed that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 4:29 AM
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South Asian, regular Asian

WHAT ARE WE, CHOPPED LIVER?


Posted by: OPINIONATED CONSTIPATED ASIANS | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 5:35 AM
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I walked a few blocks to kindergarten when I was five years old, but I had a lot of brothers and sisters, so I was expendable.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 5:56 AM
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but I had a lot of brothers and sisters, so I was expendable.

Mrs Basil E Frankweiler is outside and would like a word.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 6:03 AM
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I don't remember how I got to half-day preschool or full-day kindergarten - probably walked with my mother. Walked to school grades 1-8, with older kids at the beginning, with siblings (as a seasoned pro!) the next year. In high school, I often half-ran to school, five blocks away, due to a mixture of sleeping late and infinite capacity for puttering around. Fun fact: Fifty years ago today was my first day of first grade!


Posted by: honigessig | Link to this comment | 09- 5-12 7:58 PM
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