Re: We Don't Actually Have To Go To Fresh Salt, There Are Other Bars

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How about Roosevelt Sports Bar in Queens?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 6:45 AM
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I'll actually be moving to Queens (but not Flushing) on that very day (so not sure if I'll be able to make it).


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 6:53 AM
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I like Fresh Salt and haven't been in a while so I'm fine with that. On the other hand, if the preponderance of us who are coming live uptown we could try to break free of the benevolent tyranny of the Salt. No, I'm just kidding, of course. Fresh Salt it is.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 7:15 AM
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Come to think, the Upper West Side would be more convenient for you, me, Blandings... I don't have a go-to bar on the UWS, though.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 7:46 AM
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I don't either, really, but there's got to be somewhere. I mean there's the long communal table one can sit at at Landmarc, which is super convenient as it is on top of the Columbus Circle stop on A/B/C/D/1. They have decent cocktails though I don't know about the beer selection.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 7:55 AM
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The real problem is that most other bars are terribly noisy, and I don't hear well.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:27 AM
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I am your sister in poor hearing. We tried The Ginger Man a couple of times back in the day, and I was smiling blankly at people while wishing I could lipread better.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:31 AM
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We have lovely smiles but are better known for our badinage, which means we've got to be able to hear.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:32 AM
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And who would sex Mutombo must first hear his call.


Posted by: Opinionated Dikembe Mutombo | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:41 AM
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Landmarc isn't too loud, I think. Or we could go to that place on 85th St. Blandings recommended to me a while back. Oh hey I like how that came out. It could be "that place on 85th Street that Blandings recommended" or "that place on 85th that Saint Blandings recommended." Um anyway it was quiet.

I'm not sure why I am continuing to talk about this since we will obviously end up at Fresh Salt.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:44 AM
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I can't remember what book it was with a character who worked for a phone book publisher commenting on the Church of All Streets and the Fifth Saint Bar and Grill.

If there's a quiet place on 85th, that gets me home much faster, and I'm all for that.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:49 AM
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Stale Pepper?


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:51 AM
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11: Little, Big. I'm almost sure.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 8:54 AM
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3: Oh good, I'm glad to hear people actually like Fresh Salt, rather than grimly enduring it for the sake of sociability.

BTW, if anyone has any suggestions for other bars or restaurants I should check out while I'm there, I'm all ears. I've got a list the length of my arm at the moment, but that's mostly compiled from anonymous Internet recommendations.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:28 AM
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Yeah, meetups at Fresh Salt have consistently been better than meetups elsewhere. It really is all about the noise level.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:29 AM
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Betraying my total goddamn squareness, but if you want places to talk, aren't there coffeehouses in New York? Which are great for the purpose as long as you avoid open mic night?


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:37 AM
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Who can talk without beer?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:39 AM
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14: Raines Law Room.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:39 AM
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18: Now that looks intriguing!


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:46 AM
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I heartily endorse 18.

Hm, New York has a grillion good restaurants. One thing I love is the David Chang places. Noodle Bar for reasonable, Ssam Bar for a bit of a spend, and Ko if you are feeling fancy and are good at logging in at the exact right second to get reservations at a tiny restaurant.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:48 AM
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I hate it when people who don't even live in my city know more about the cool hidden spots.

Pretty bold of Raines Law Room to open a fancy cocktail place right near the Flatiron Lounge.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:52 AM
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We don't have to go to
Fresh Salt
To have a good time, no no.
We can dance and party
All night
And drink some cherry wine, yeah yeah.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:54 AM
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20.2: I would love to go to Ssam Bar or Ko, but unfortunately my girlfriend is vegetarian and would thus starve. Is Noodle Bar actually worth it? The reviews I found were basically "good but not remarkable".


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 10:56 AM
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What is so mystifying about that song is that cherry wine (even if not a euphemism) is surely one of the most direct routes to taking your clothes off ever invented.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:19 AM
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23: No! She should go! David Chang is all about accommodating vegetarians!
(Lies. All lies.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:22 AM
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I like Noodle Bar but acknowledge that it is maybe a little bit hit or miss. Like the ramen is problematically salty. The Momofuku restaurants are, though, truly not good for vegetarians, as you say. Lemme see if I can think of somewhere good for leaf-eaters and animal-eaters alike.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:23 AM
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25: I'd forgotten until I looked at the menu recently that Chang made a big stink a few years ago about how much he hates vegetarians. Oh well.

Anybody been to Acme or Aquavit? I'm mostly looking for stuff I can't get out here (although part of me totally wants to go to Mission Chinese Food).


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:31 AM
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I always try to get old-school Italian or French food in NY, for similar can't-quite-get-that-here reasons. I've been to Aquavit a few times, although I think most recently 5 years ago, and it was really excellent. Easily satisfied the can't-get-that-here thing.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:36 AM
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Josh, there's a fantastic vegetarian place called Dirt Candy in the East Village.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:37 AM
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I'm pretty sure Aquavit is closed.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:38 AM
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29: Already got reservations there!


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:39 AM
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Wait it totally is not closed. Sorry about that. I liked it when I went.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:40 AM
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30: Their website is still accepting reservations...


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:40 AM
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I've been to Aquavit, but that was maybe a decade ago.

It was good, Josh. You really missed out.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:45 AM
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I haven't been since they switched chefs (which was a few years ago now), but Café Boulud is very good at feeding both vegetarians and people looking for duck and foie gras, etc.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 11:46 AM
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Dirt candy is so good.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 12:22 PM
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I haven't been to Aquavit in years, but while it had been tired for a long time, I hear from friends I trust that under the current chef it's as good as it's ever been.

Do not go to Pure Food and Wine.

Do go to Ten Bells and Terroir.

Also maybe a tapas/pintxos crawl hitting Txikito/El Quinto Pino/Tia Pol (which you could combine with a visit to the High Line).


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 12:41 PM
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37: I have a soft spot for Pure Food and Wine, but I would only ever go there in the summer when you can sit on their lovely patio and drink sangria. (Also, who wants to eat cold, or at best warm, food when it is cold out?)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 12:59 PM
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24 gets it exactly right.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 1:05 PM
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Tia Pol is great but always packed.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-19-12 1:09 PM
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Alas, I will only be getting to New York the next day. 24 hours too late!


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 2:31 PM
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41: We'll actually be in town until the 4th...


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 2:49 PM
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Based on my dinner last night, I can also highly recommend Empellon Cocina.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 5:43 PM
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7: I believe I met many of you at The Ginger Man. It was a nice place, but once it filled up, there was no talking to anyone farther away than your elbow.

That was also a good shopping day for me. Damn I miss UNIQLO.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 6:22 PM
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Definitely don't take a vegetarian to Fette Sau. I think the only thing on the menu I would eat was bread.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 7:19 PM
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41, 42: Should we reschedule? I'd thought Ajay was coming to NY at the end of November, not the beginning.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 7:37 PM
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I can't do Saturday.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 8:17 PM
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Damn I miss UNIQLO.

I am super-excited that we finally have one here, but I'll probably make it the one in NYC before ours; it's been crazy busy since it opened. They had a tiny little pop-up store for a few months before the full opening, which only had maybe 5 things on sale, and it was still mobbed.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 10:41 PM
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Saturday or Sunday is probably fine but I'm somewhat unlikely to schlepp to Fresh Salt on a weekend. It's like an hour away.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-20-12 11:08 PM
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Well, yeah, same here; all the arguments in favor of Wednesday do still hold. But if Thursday worked better for everyone else, while I can't make it, it might be an improvement otherwise.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 4:52 AM
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Saturday or Sunday probably better for me this time. Friday is very iffy.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 5:00 AM
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I thought the point of considering rescheduling was to add Ajay, which would mean Saturday. Why do we need to mess with it otherwise?


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 5:44 AM
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What's so exciting about UNIQLO?


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 5:45 AM
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53: Don't know, but they recently had a zeppelin flying around advertising their new SF location. They tried to fit so much on the side it was practically illegible at a normal viewing distance on a sunny day; I had to squint for some time even to see the brand name.

(First time I learned anything from a YouTube comment: the only comment on this video was from the airship proprietors identifying themselves, so I avoided calling it a blimp and found a better photo.)


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 7:01 AM
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52: Yeah, but I thought ajay was able to attend simply if it was later than Friday, which is why I mentioned Sunday as well, since you had only said you couldn't be there Saturday.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 7:52 AM
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53: High-quality, stylish, relatively-inexpensive clothes. (Kind of "Japanese Gap", only more fashionable than that sounds.) Also good for slimmer folks.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 11:06 AM
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55: Well, we leave mid-day on Sunday, so unless folks want to have breakfast it's probably not the best choice.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 11:08 AM
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Ah, I see. Sorry for contributing to muddle.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 11:42 AM
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58 yeah, me too. So what's it gonna be?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 10-21-12 12:07 PM
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Wait, November 2nd now? OK, can't do that.

And, yes, I will be in NY at the end of November. Last week of...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 10-22-12 1:20 AM
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What's the current thinking on this? Are we back to the OP's 11/2 @ FS?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 10-27-12 6:42 AM
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Yes you are.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-27-12 6:49 AM
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And I though Botanica's backroom was loud.


Posted by: Econolicious | Link to this comment | 10-27-12 7:47 AM
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So... this isn't happening, right?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 5:37 AM
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If it doesn't happen the terrorists will have won. Didn't Blandings say he was still up for a meetup?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 5:50 AM
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Blandings is UWS, yes? Anybody want to set up a competing Brooklyn meetup?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 7:42 AM
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If it doesn't happen the terrorists oil companies will have won.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 7:44 AM
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Lee just bought our airline tickets for NYC in December. I am so excited about meetup prospects, which I'm assuming is because you are so fantastic and not because my life is so pitiful.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 8:21 AM
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I'm ordinarily in Brooklyn but not there now.

The city might be a little too disastermath for a meet-up.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 8:38 AM
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Getting from Brooklyn to the UWS (and back) would be a huge pain since there's no subway service between downtown Brooklyn and 34th.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 9:57 AM
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69.2, 70: Right. That said, if the two or so people whose locations and transportation options would make it feasible for them to join me and JM for a drink want to do something, we can certainly manage it.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:03 AM
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71: Meet-up at the Marathon generators!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:07 AM
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Bring monkey wrenches!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:07 AM
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69 & 70 at least make me feel a bit better about our decision to give up on trying to make it to NYC. Still bummed to be missing y'all, though.

(BTW, does anybody remember where exactly the Flophouse was? It occurs to me that we may have been right near it recently.)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:16 AM
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Attica! Attica!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:23 AM
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74 -- W just off 14th?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 11- 2-12 10:41 AM
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