Not really, ever since they changed "Pol Pot Day" to "Arbor Day."
If you limit yourself to Americans called Jackson, that bastard on the twenty looks worse from here.
And not because of New Orleans, which was fair play.
What's wrong with hating prog rock?
At least they changed it from Lee-Jackson-King Day.
Yeah, Lee-Jackson-King as a combined official holiday was weirder. I hadn't realized that had changed. Which one is observed as a school holiday?
Which one is observed as a school holiday?
MLK Day, although some cities and counties are doing a Teacher Workday (i.e., no students) today.
On the other hand, state courts are observing today's holiday, as are the local Commonwealth's Attorneys' offices.
Maybe we could instead celebrate today as less unneeded radiation shot at my balls day.
It's actually less groping my balls day for me because I always took the alternative screening.
Also, kudos to Stanley for continuing the grocery store theme from the other thread.
Surely one of you madcap fools has designated an International Ogged Day.
10: I have never been through one! If you're carrying a baby, they send you to the regular machine.
I was groped on my last trip though. The groper was very nice. The person who sent me for groping was an asshole. (I had a squeezy fruit packet in my bag. Since it couldn't be opened for testing, he said I had to be groped. I didn't quite understand how one affected the other, but hey.)
Nathan Bedford Forrest? http://www.tennessee-scv.org/Camp1828/projects/proclamation/nathan_bedford_forrest_day_proclamation_2004.htm
I wonder if he did anything after the Civil War. Maybe he could also be honored for that?
17: He was a pioneer in men's fashion, right?
Also a case to be made for Columbus
"I'm sorry, Officer, but that lady wouldn't let me open her fruit packet. As you can see, I had no choice but to grope her."
13: Be the madcap fool you want to see in the world, Smearcase.
I actually think having two holidays one either side of a weekend is a great idea. A weekend in January, not so much.
I grew up in Virginia but have never before heard of this holiday. I call wikipedia hoax.
26: I grew up in Virginia and Lee-Jackson-King day was only one of the Confederate horrors I discovered on moving down from NJ. (The others included high school teams called the "Rebels" and Lynyrd Skynyrd.)
The Governor's official proclamations for Lee-Jackson Day:
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/OurCommonwealth/Proclamations/viewproc.cfm?id=237
and Marin Luther King, Jr. Day:
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/OurCommonwealth/Proclamations/viewproc.cfm?id=239
Lee-Jackson-King day
Wow. I'd never heard of that. It's an even bigger "fuck you" to MLK day than Arizona's canceling of the holiday altogether.
Darn it. Katherine beat me to it with Forest.
Gotta love Virginia. We have discussed how the Confederate lovers march around the Virginia Museum every day, right??
Darn it. Katherine beat me to it with Forest.
Gotta love Virginia. We have discussed how the Confederate lovers march around the Virginia Museum every day, right??
Someone explained to me recently the French bafflement at the British and Irish set-up where bank/public holidays are nearly all on a Monday. "Mais on ne peut pas faire le pont!" (the French practice where you bridge the gap between a public holiday and the weekend with one of your ample supply of annual leave days, to enjoy a five-day weekend).
In Alaska we have Seward's Day, which is pretty weird even though Seward is by most measures a much better person from that era to commemorate than Lee or Jackson.
There's also Seward, Nebraska. The man got so much glory.
Also the neighborhood of Seward in Minneapolis.
There is of course a bunch of stuff in Alaska named after him in addition to the holiday.
Anchorage for example. Alaska is known for bad spelling.
Alaska is known for bad spelling.
This is actually kind of true. The most famous example is the town of Kennicott, named after the Kennecott Mining Company.
And of course placenames of Native origin are often spelled all sorts of different ways.
On a road trip I once took with a boyfriend, we saw signs for the Stonewa/ll Jack/son shrine, and couldn't help but stop (because: shrine). The park ranger began our tour with a recitation of relevant history, but then stopped himself mid-sentence to say, "Then again, if y'all are here, you probably already know the history."
And then we found a bill upon which another asshole Jackson's face was printed.
I'm pretty sure Stonewall Jackson isn't going to google himself and find this thread.
People here know what Stone Mountain is, right?
I ask because I never heard of it until visiting Atlanta.
An exceptionally unimaginative name for a mountain?
It lacks the nuance of "Rocky Mountains".
Anyway, the name sounds vaguely familiar, so I think I have heard of it at some point even though I can't remember anything about it now.
It's like Mount Rushmore, except without anybody who didn't support slavery.
Not the visitors, many of whom are probably on the fence, but the giant people carved in stone.
I suspect the visitors probably lean more pro-slavery than most Americans these days.
And now that you describe it I'm pretty sure I had heard of it before.
My favorite weird ass thing like that is the Hermannsdenkmal, which is way less offensive (in fact, i am objectively pro Hermann) but ultimately creepier because Nazis.
51: I suspect the Visitors probably lean more pro-tearing your face off to reveal that you are actually a Lizard Person than most Americans these days.
I don't think the Lizard People, or any other reptiles, are behind Stone Mountain, because it's not to scale.
Damn, Seward was a hard man fe dead!
A better, warmer, part of Sherman's March takes place up on Stone Mountain.
42: Sure, but other people might google it. Or something.
Sure, but if they do a) they're unlikely to end up here, and b) so what if they do?
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A woman was just humping nosflow's leg.
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60: If ever there's a time to violate the sanctity of off-blog communication, it's now.
And to do my part, the situation described in 60 does not appear to have kept our neb from commenting at The Other Place.
The leg-humping came after the film criticism.
And then she tried to set him up with one of her friends.
66 to 64, but it works even better to 65.
65: It's always good to test out someone's leg before you suggest them to someone else.
Also, nmm to Proposition Joe Stewart day.
She was attempting to 'freak' with both of us, but neither of us was really feeling the music calling to our blood, so to speak. it was a bit awkward.
Never heard of Stone Mountain before, in case you wanted responses.
More information on Stone Mountain. The current park website downplays the Confederate connection.
Just followed the stone mountain link. Jesus Christ. What the fuck, Alabama?
Which, if we're honest, may have had something to do with why that woman was freaking with us and humping nosflow's leg.
Of course it dates to the Revolutionary War, but Virginia's use of Sic Semper Tyrannis as its motto* is a bit jarring (Sarah Vowell points out the incongruity of it appearing in its state motto capacity at the site in Virginia where John Wilkes Booth was captured). If the VA license plate which featured it were still available I'm sure it would appeal to the same set who rushed to snap up the Sic Semper Tyrannis t-shirt that Timothy McVeigh was wearing (which featured Lincoln's face and was available from Southern Partisan magazine).
*And as we've discussed here before it appears in Maryland's state song penned during the Civil War and adopted as state song 70 years later.
I did not realize that Gutzon Borglum (went on to do Rushmore) was the original sculptor at Stone Mountain. But apparently none of the work he did ended up in the final piece. Some interesting stuff via Wikipedia, (Stone Mountain Memorial half-dollar from 1925).
On November 25, 1915, a group of robed and hooded men met at Stone Mountain to create a new incarnation of the Klan. They were led by William J. Simmons, and they included a group calling itself the Knights of Mary Phagan. A cross was lit, and the oath was administered by Nathan Bedford Forrest II, the grandson of the original Imperial Grand Wizard, Gen. Nathan B. Forrest, and was witnessed by the owner of Stone Mountain, Samuel Venable.
Fundraising for the monument resumed in 1923, and in October of that year, Venable granted the Klan easement with perpetual right to hold celebrations as they desired. The influence of the UDC continued, in support of Mrs. Plane's vision of a carving explicitly for the purpose of creating a Confederate memorial. The UDC established the Stone Mountain Confederate Memorial Association (SMCMA) for fundraising and on-site supervision of the project. Venable and Borglum, who were both closely associated with the Klan, arranged to pack the SMCMA with Klan members.The SMCMA, along with the United Daughters of the Confederacy continued fundraising efforts. Of the $250,000 raised, part came from the federal government, which in 1924 issued special fifty-cent coins with the soldiers Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson on them, but would not allow the politician Jefferson Davis to be included. When the state purchased the mountain in 1958, they had removed the Klan and voided Venable's agreement by condemning the properties.
I only learned recently that Borglum was of Danish extraction. If there were some way for an ethnicity to completely renounce and repudiate one of its members, I would definitely start a campaign in that direction for him. What a fucking jackass.
I dunno, if you're a sculptor specializing in dynamiting mountains you can't be too choosy about clients.
84: He had quite an early history, child of a Mormon bigamist in Idaho who cast of Gutzon's mother when the family moved to Nebraska and he had one too many wives.
The cult of Lee is slowly diminishing, though. We used to have a museum/shrine at Lee's Boyhood Home, but the number of visitors fell off and the trust went bankrupt. The house ended up being sold (I think to a cashed out dotcom entrepreneur) and is now a private residence.
And desegregration had an odd effect. The "colored schools" had been named after Southern Civil War heroes (presumably to rub it in). After integration, in Alexandria those were the ones closed (since you couldn't send white kids to such a place). So the erstwhile Stonewall Jackson school now houses a takeout barbeque business.
The cult of Lee is slowly diminishing, though. We used to have a museum/shrine at Lee's Boyhood Home, but the number of visitors fell off and the trust went bankrupt. The house ended up being sold (I think to a cashed out dotcom entrepreneur) and is now a private residence.
And desegregration had an odd effect. The "colored schools" had been named after Southern Civil War heroes (presumably to rub it in). After integration, in Alexandria those were the ones closed (since you couldn't send white kids to such a place). So the erstwhile Stonewall Jackson school now houses a takeout barbeque business.
NMM to Earl Weaver. (You know who you are.)
Ah, one of the great old crusty managers.
"Every time I fail to smoke a cigarette between innings, the opposition will score."
"Coaches are an integral part of any manager's team, especially if they are good pinochle players."
When outfielder Pat Kelly shared with Earl, "It's great to walk with the Lord.", Weaver replied, "I'd rather have you walk with the bases loaded."
"Economics played a role. Raleighs have gone from six fifty to nine dollars a carton, but there's a three-quarter cent coupon on the back. You can get all kinds of things with them, blenders, everything. I saved up enough one time and got Al Bumbry."
God, I had no idea Earl Weaver was still alive. One of the great old crusty managers to be sure, but also one of the best (maybe, the best ever, it's hard to measure) of all time. Hard to think of a manager with more impact on the game, and he intuited a bunch of the Moneyball strategies what, 40 years before Moneyball?
92: Well he certainly was a believer in the power of power, and not so wild about base-stealing.
Weaver in a random encounter with an umpire. Ump was wearing a mic for a documentary, so you get the real uncensored scoop.
And this is basically the smartest thing ever uttered by a baseball coach: "There are only three outs per inning. Give one away and you are making everything harder for yourself."
Hmm, he was only 82 and died on an Orioles fantasy cruise in the Caribbean. So that's a supposedly fun thing he'll never do again.
87: When my dad was stationed in Norfolk we were bused to the otherwise all black JEB Stuart Elementary. Oy. Stay classy Norfolk. From what I can tell, it's now closed.
