Re: Hot and Saucy

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it's delicious.

also good: Marie Sharps. (carrot-based!)


Posted by: cleek | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:37 PM
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I too feel that Sriracha is delicious. That peanut-having hot oil intrigues me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:40 PM
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I feel as if sriracha is following bacon's path towards ubiquitous cliche*, and with love for it a bit of a shibboleth.

I personally find the specific flavor a bit off, and prefer nam prik for my SEA hot sauce needs. If I were limited to only 1 hot sauce, it would be Frank's.

*yes, I mean both


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:43 PM
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It's delicious, but JRoth is at least partly right: it's reputation, and more than that its role as a cultural marker, currently far outstrips its utility as a flavor-enhancing substance.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:46 PM
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I am intrigued by this.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:53 PM
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The problem is that it is apparently become sufficiently ubiquitous that it's losing its value as a cultural marker. The new cultural marker is to prefer other lesser-known hot sauces.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:55 PM
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It is maybe a notch too vinegary for me. I put it on things and like it, but I prefer plain old chili oil like they have on the table lots of places.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:56 PM
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This isn't related to the hoohah thread, is it?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:57 PM
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And what I really love more than anything else in the whole wide world is gochujang.

I don't know why I am so about afterthought comments today (or maybe always.)


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:57 PM
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And this!

There was some other commercial hot sauce that I found intriguing in some hot sauce thread on metafilter but I can't find it any longer. I also suspect this woman's stuff of being tasty.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:58 PM
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A good friend submitted "Sriracha Lime" in the Frito-Lay "Lend Us A Flavor" contest, and is now (rightfully) miffed that plain "Sriracha" seems poised to win the $1 million grand prize.


Posted by: Abraham Lincoln | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 12:59 PM
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I find sriracha a bit dank and unrefined, and not in a good way, but, speaking of spicy things my aunt gave me this orange-habanero stuff for Christmas and it is really good.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:04 PM
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4: yeah, my personal disfavor for it is neither here nor there; it's in the context of its cultural ascendancy that I'd call it overrated, because everyone now seems to be calling it the most amazing sauce ever, which is clearly bandwagony hyperbole.

I'd also note that my preference for Frank's is that I think it's a good, multitask hot sauce. In my actual world, in which I'm allowed multiple hot sauces, I don't actually use that much Frank's.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:05 PM
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5: that does look delicious. I've seen that brand, but I'm not in the habit of collecting hot sauces, so. But I may get that one when next I see it - I love Caribbean hot sauces.

I can imagine sriracha Fritos being pretty damned good, since the hearty corn could stand up to a lot of spicy flavor.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:09 PM
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I still recommend Julio's as the best hot sauce with the least functional web page around. Their verde sauce isn't even pictured, but pick some up if you're ever in Texas.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:23 PM
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Oh, but wait! I finally clicked through to the linked article in the OP, and I have a very strong opinion about 1 of the 5 sauces, which is that IMO Crystal hot sauce is the worst of the Louisiana hot sauces. Utterly 1-dimensional, utterly dull. First time I had it was at a place with a plausible claim to LA authenticity, and I was psyched, and then I was sad.

But I will probably end up buying the other 4.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:25 PM
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Inner Beauty Hot Sauce was amazing, but now is gone. (Don't tell me I can make it myself. I can probably make linoleum myself too with a little effort but I ain't gonna.)

I like tabasco better than sriracha on most things, but they're both good.

Mostly, I like hot sauce. Also bacon. Hot sauce on bacon less so, although I'd try it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:27 PM
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baconbaconbaconbaconbaconbaconbacon

BACON!!!


Posted by: Opinionated Overexcited Commercial Canine | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:29 PM
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Inner Beauty Hot Sauce...now is gone.

Wait, really? That's very, very sad.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:30 PM
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19: yeah, he stopped selling it a while ago. It still appears on dishes at his restaurants.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:31 PM
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Inner Beauty is gone as a commercial product, but All-Star still puts it on the Atomic Meatloaf Sandwich, don't they?


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:31 PM
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I still mourn Inner Beauty, and even more, poached eggs with Inner Beauty. It was the most perfect of breakfasts. Poached eggs with buchu kimchi is pretty good, but it's just not the same.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 1:40 PM
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3. Snarking about cliché bacon is the real cultural marker.

Bacon is energy-rich, protein-rich, salty, and woodsmokey, which means that tens of thousands of years of human evolution are screaming at us that this is the best thing ever found on the veldt; being ga-ga for bacon is basically saying "why yes, I am an omnivorous mammal whose ancestors learned the trick of applying fire to meat in order to sterilize it."

Looking down your nose at bacon fanatics is right up there with celibate priesthood in terms of denying your nature in order to feel special.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:02 PM
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I can't often find Pickapeppa sauce any longer, and I miss it. Not hot, but blends well with plain hot sauces, I think.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:29 PM
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I like sriracha fine. We haven't had it in the house for a good while because we don't use it that often, and the last bottle we had turned a disturbing dark color. (Yeah, we should keep it in the fridge.) At Backbar I had a sriracha version of a cocktail usually made with a more straightforward hot sauce, and the garlic flavor in the sriracha gave it an interesting twist.

I am quite partial to the Pickapepa peppadew hot sauce, but because it's harder to track down than plain old Tobasco, it is Tobasco that we go through by buckets here.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:33 PM
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25 before seeing 24!


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:33 PM
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I like bacon as much as anyone, but I am tired of hearing about it.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:33 PM
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23: Anti-semite.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:39 PM
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Tobasco

Well I'm just batting a thousand today with spelling on unfogged.


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:42 PM
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Trimidab and Tobasco.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:44 PM
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There was a thread a long time ago where Nosflow claimed he was unfamiliar with Sri Racha, after I mentioned that all the better restaurants in MPLS have a bottle on the table. Now it has vanished into the hoohole though.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:47 PM
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We go through a lot of the chipotle Tabasco sauce. I recently learned that you can buy it by the half gallon and am somewhat tempted.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:50 PM
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If someone put sriracha in the hoohole, that might explain why heebie is so uncomfortable. Also, maybe a truly novel (and horrible) sex act?


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:52 PM
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30:
And the big Mississippi
and the town Honolulu
and the lake Titicaca


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:55 PM
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I like Sriracha okay, but it's too vinegary. (I dislike Tabasco for the same reason.) Pico Pica is probably my favorite bottled hot sauce. Of course, I agree with the sentiment in 9.1.


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:56 PM
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I don't particularly like bacon. TWYRCL finds this rather odd.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 2:58 PM
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34: +1


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 3:03 PM
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I had some just yesterday in my canned chili and thought to myself I should have it more often. I brings dead food to life.


Posted by: trumwill | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 4:15 PM
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I've only seen that done with fresh octopus and soy sauce.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 4:25 PM
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Turns out the transgender student at Emerson actually had coverage for the surgery.

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Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 5:23 PM
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Sriracha is good but became a cultural marker, and is now subject to devaluation due to enthusiast inflation. Or what peep said.

Here are my two favorite hot sauces:

El Yucateco

Brother Bru Bru

I especially love the Brother Bru Bru. It's got some African pepper taste to it that's weird and awesome and is just fantastic.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 7:14 PM
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I find that the main difference between Sriracha and other hot sauces I've tried is that it's both sweeter and thicker (both probably due to the fact that it contains a ton of high-fructose corn syrup, IIRC). It's okay, but I generally prefer Frank's or Tabasco for everyday use.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 7:33 PM
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I can't often find Pickapeppa sauce any longer, and I miss it.

Wait, what? Do I need to cherish the bottle I have?

23: I love bacon. I just think the raving about it is tiresome. Also, I find its saltiness can be palate-wearying, but that's producer-specific.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:15 PM
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42: I don't think I realized that it has HFCS. AFAICT, it's not the sweetness that puts me off it.

I don't think I've seen Brother Bru Bru, but will keep an eye out.

My #1 use for hot sauce is with home fries and eggs, so not every one will do - crazy hot ones, frex, don't add enough flavor before becoming punishing. But it's not just that.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:19 PM
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I hate asshole poseurs who aren't living full POBAD and make bullshit like bacon flavored cupcakes. Bacon isn't some flavoring product, it's powerful fat and should be consumed for strength.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:21 PM
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Paleo Or Basically Atkins Dorkified?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:26 PM
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It's always interesting when some people hate something purely because they are so sick of people blathering about it, while others who seemingly consume the same sort of media and run in the same circles, do not ever hear people blathering about it.

I notice on Twitter that everyone in Britain is desperate to emphasize how much they hate Mumford and Sons because they are so sick to death of hearing Mumford and Sons and being pressured to like the most overplayed band since U2, Mumford and Sons. Whereas across the pond people's opinions of Mumford and Sons range from "indifferent" to "they are a good band, I like their songs".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:28 PM
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crazy hot ones, frex, don't add enough flavor before becoming punishing

I find this is a general problem with super-hot sauces, especially the ones that are marketed primarily on that basis and favored by the sort of people who make a big macho thing out of eating them.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 8:29 PM
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The bacon backlash continues.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 9:25 PM
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No love for Tapatío or Cholula? I am self-conscious about putting Sriracha on anything but ethnically-appropriate cuisine (e.g., phở, fried rice) since the backlash started. But Sriracha Peas are the greatest thing ever, I don't care who knows.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 11:28 PM
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No love for Tapatío or Cholula?

I like both of them.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 11:32 PM
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I am a big fan of Cholula on french fries.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 11:43 PM
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(both probably due to the fact that it contains a ton of high-fructose corn syrup, IIRC)

Sugar, according to the ingredient list on this here bottle.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03- 6-13 11:43 PM
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48: and favored by the sort of people who make a big macho thing out of eating them.

Relatedly, see many chili competitions in Texas.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 2:18 AM
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All your fey gastronomies
Are target for your enemies.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 2:24 AM
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I was going to link 49, so instead I'll mention NMM to Alvin Lee. I used to go and see 10 Years After when they had a Friday night residency at a small club in Soho (London). They were better than they would ever be again.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 2:31 AM
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And your enemy is
JP!


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 2:39 AM
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Google Glass Making Light with good comment thread. Hi ajay! I see you.

1) Lots of stuff to think about, partly contrarian, because the socialized stuff will be covered enough.

I don't carry a cellphone or tablet, am not on facebook or twitter, almost never use email, don't have a webpage, am really not active in discussion groups or web gatherings. I have no idea who or where or what most of you are, absolutely refuse meetups.

Ewwww. Creepy. Think about that. What is he hiding? I'm ugly, and don't care. Photos at a meetup between buddies probably can never count as "creepshots" The ex-girlfriend stuff happens after the breakup, in other words the nature of the content is defined by the relationship, and the more socialized get more privilege (in some ways, needs work) than the private. So much more here...

2) Someone in the ML thread, and I forget which is some kind of transgression, directly compared creepshots to a picture of her bank records. Hmmm...

Tiqqun Young Girl ...so good, so important

The young girl (remember we are all "young girls", although young girls have to deny the universality to increase her value) does not only think of herself as property, but thinks of herself as a commodity. Creepshots are only valuable to creeps for the exact reason financial information is valuable. Property that can be stolen.

3) Another line in the thread, something about the transition between when everything is public to when nobody gives a fuck.

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Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 6:08 AM
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Everyone should also read the Adolph Reed (at Jacobin) linked in a thread below, at least the last paragraphs. He is very close to the tiqqun.

Social capital, which includes anti-racist, feminist and I suppose in some groups socialist creds, is the only capital left, and now embraces everything, including all the labor of social production and social reproduction, meaning this comment and this persona and this body.

Everything has been commodified and is exchanged in markets.

Privacy or self-ownership is only about negotiating the market price. This why we are all now young girls. "Real" young girls have always been there.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 6:38 AM
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You want privacy and self-ownership?

Make yourself worthless, unattractive, something nobody wants

Won't happen will it?


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 6:41 AM
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Cholula is the default hot sauce in our house.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 7:32 AM
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40: Turns out the transgender student at Emerson actually had coverage for the surgery but the insurance company conveniently accidentally mistakenly told him he wasn't covered due to a perfectly understandable mistake which was quickly cleared up once the story went viral.


Posted by: Hamilton-Lovecraft | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:17 PM
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The real feelgood ending would be if the frat announced that money already raised for that purpose was going to go to some kind of trans advocacy or support group. (That may have happened -- I haven't read anything about it.)


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:36 PM
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The real feelgood ending would be if the frat announced that money already raised for that purpose was going to go to some kind of trans advocacy or support group a hit on insurance company executives.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:41 PM
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62: Matches my cynical understanding of how things went down.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:42 PM
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How about a really epic party??


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:42 PM
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Or they could pledge another trans person who isn't covered?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:44 PM
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Somebody's gotta get a sex change with all this money.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:45 PM
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I believe that a sex grotto is called for.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:46 PM
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47.1: Scott Lem/eux once claimed that hating on turkey at Tgiving was in no way common in the liberal blogosphere. Then he said that he wanted to see more pictures of cats, but couldn't find any online.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 03- 7-13 12:48 PM
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Sriracha is a bit too sweet for me (I dislike ketchup on anything). I'm a big fan of the smoky chipotle Tabasco.


Posted by: Neil the Ethical Werewolf | Link to this comment | 03- 8-13 6:48 AM
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