Re: Welcome to the microbiome.

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I haven't read these articles yet, but it's true that a calorie is not a calorie. Different people break down a certain food quite differently.

Also, effects on hormones etc. Will read later.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:45 PM
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Gore me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:45 PM
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My brain translates goarmy as gormy -- the opposite of gormless?


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:47 PM
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Right, but it's the website for the US Army, so they're expecting you to read Go army!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:50 PM
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Are they playing Navy?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:51 PM
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Because I usually back Navy over Army, football-wise.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:51 PM
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Still not in the same league as the classic Pen Island url problem.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:52 PM
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7: Some asshole turned that into a pron site.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:53 PM
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(Which, now that I google it, is apparently an urban myth/joke site.)


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:53 PM
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It wasn't that long ago that they sold pens and reminded people of a simpler time.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:54 PM
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NNM to Dick Trickle.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 2:57 PM
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The UK electricity company Powergen's Italian website, Powergen Italia, was real, I think. Too good to check anyway.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:06 PM
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There's a site for horse-racing handicappers called www.bris.net; when I first noticed it I enjoyed imagining a counterfactual owner for that URL, who would of course use the slogan "You've got mohel!"


Posted by: joyslinger | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:13 PM
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The cowards at Ferreth and Jobs have changed their url, but the old one still redirects. And they sell t-shirts!


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:21 PM
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Sorry, better link: Ferreth and Jobs


Posted by: foolishmortal | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:24 PM
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Some auto insurance company for the elderly used to advertise its URL on TV as aarphartford.com. Not that funny, but I still laugh.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:36 PM
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Peter Dinklage is going to play Micro-bio-me in the movie.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:46 PM
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www.ladrape.com is still going strong.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:47 PM
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link


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 3:48 PM
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My brain reads it as Microbiodome, which, hey, who doesn't like Pauly Shore?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 4:43 PM
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The antibotics are causing us to be fat argument is an interesting one. It can explain the obesity epidemic as well as explain why the obesity epidemic is associated with increasing lifespans.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 5:00 PM
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ExpertSexChange.com was better before they put a hyphen after the S.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 5:46 PM
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I have a friend whose C. diff. infection finally had to be treated by replacing her intestinal flora with somebody else's. Literally a microbiome transplant.


Posted by: Chet Murthy | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 6:03 PM
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22: I had never noticed that before. I ban chastise myself.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 6:03 PM
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23- We in the business prefer to call that a Shit Swap.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:03 PM
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Yeah, I definitely agree with Pollan that fecal transplants will need to be rebranded to become more popular.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:07 PM
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Amitai Etzioni? My gosh.

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Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:10 PM
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Further to 27, to be clearer: My gosh, I didn't think he descended from the heights, didn't think he was still active, didn't expect to see his by-line at the Atlantic.

As you were. Sorry.

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Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:13 PM
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First sentence ofthe OP to the tune of "Big Coat" by Wiretree:
Everybody talkin bout the microbiome
You know they got a lot to learn
Everybody diggin up some new e coli
You get what you deserve


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:17 PM
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I've nearly found a place to call biome.


Posted by: Constipated Genesis | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:20 PM
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Polish it in the corner.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 7:31 PM
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I'm quietly worried about this for Teapot, as he was born in the caul and won't have gotten the benefit of my nice healthy microbiome. (Obviously he's getting some of it now with nursing plus general contact, but not like he would have done during delivery. Poor bugs, after they'd migrated from the gut to the birth canal specially for him.) I totally want to do the American Gut project for all three of us. Lord knows collecting stool samples has never been easier.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 9:48 PM
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I was faintly wondering how the duratiion of pushing affected that. It took Ace all of 15 seconds to come out, after my water broke. (The most intense 15 seconds of my life, but that's all.) Whereas Hawaii lolly-gagged there for over two hours.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 9:53 PM
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So far as I know no one's studied that yet. But I imagine there's some effect; the bugs have to do a good enough job of clinging to the canal walls that they're not all flushed out when your water breaks, and then presumably for efficient transfer they need either extended close contact with the baby or time to receive and process some signal that tells them it's okay to let go the walls.


Posted by: Gabardine Bathyscaphe | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 10:08 PM
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My wife worries about that for our son, since she was on antibiotics during delivery (her water broke a day before the GBS test had been scheduled, so they assumed the worst and gave her antibiotics).


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 10:42 PM
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I don't care what they say, "Welcome to the Microbiodome" is a hip-hop classic.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 11:00 PM
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The same part that insists on reading "snow peas" as "Snoopies"

"Please call Stella. Ask her to bring these things with her from the store: six spoons of fresh Snoopies, five thick slabs of blue cheese, and maybe a snack for her brother Bob."


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-16-13 11:35 PM
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Do you like Etzioni, parsimon? The few times I've read anything he's written, I thought he was wrong on everything. For example, here he's wrong that it should be harder to impeach the President, and wrong that it should be easier for the government to find out who leaked to the AP.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 12:32 AM
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I enjoyed imagining a counterfactual owner for that URL, who would of course use the slogan "You've got mohel!"

Rather than just "DON'T COCK IT, IT'S MOHEL".


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 4:24 AM
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Welcome to the Microbiodome! 100 trillion enter, ...


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 5:28 AM
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38: I was friends with his son in high school!

I agree with you that he is generally wrong on everything, but I'm not sure how I feel about impeachment.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 6:13 AM
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I get the impression that Etzioni is a bit of an authoritarian, but that's based on reading a single book and a few articles before more or less dismissing him.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 6:34 AM
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42: Yeah, I think of him as an example of how feel-good, left-communitarian thinking can quickly just become ordinary authoritarianism. But I'm not even sure what I've read that left me with that impression.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 6:49 AM
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32, 33: The Calabat, with the help of forceps, went from stuck behind my pubic bone to born in one push. (I told them I was pushing hard!) Anyhow, one doesn't know how robust the effects of vaginal delivery on the microbiome are, let alone whether time lounging in the canal matters, and personally, I figure gut bacteria are probably the least likely area that I'm going to screw him up.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 12:14 PM
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44: Congrats, Cala! I don't think I've been lurking diligently enough to have caught the original announcement, though I do recall a week or two of "Ok, kid, you are welcome to come out any time now!" Glad he's here and hope all are doing well.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 12:38 PM
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I get the impression that Etzioni is a bit of an authoritarian

You say authoritarian, I say communitarian. Tomayto, tomahto.


Posted by: OPINIONATED AMITAI ETZIONI | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 12:49 PM
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Do you like Etzioni, parsimon?

I seem to have, or have had, if not an affirmatively positive association, a respectful one. Reviewing his publications now, I don't immediately recognize or remember whatever of his I've read (back in the early/mid '90s, it would have been). I must have encountered him when I was toying with a 'liberalism vs. communitarianism' dissertation topic -- I was reading Charles Taylor and Sandel at the time, so I probably ran into Etzioni then. No idea what I read, though. Maybe I knew him in this context.

So no, I have no well-formed opinion. I was just surprised to see someone I thought of (perhaps wrongly) as a theoretician writing the sort of banal piece you see in the Atlantic. Plus the dude is 84.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-17-13 5:05 PM
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32: Did you at least auction it off to some sailors to get the college fund started?


Posted by: Ile | Link to this comment | 05-20-13 1:45 PM
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