Re: Haha, Baylor, go to hell.

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Link that works. (Just took the "baylor" off the front.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:04 PM
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Whoops, thanks. I'll go fix that.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:05 PM
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Also, that first paragraph at the link seems like total nonsense for any lesbian playing professional sports.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:07 PM
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Who could have guessed that the Baptist university which thought it was a peachy idea to hire Kenneth Starr as its president would have problems with gays and lesbians representing it?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:11 PM
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I'm sure Baylor President Ken Starr will sort things out real quick and do the right thing.

Although he sings hymns on his morning jog and keeps a calendar with daily Scripture verses at his private residence, he did not bring his religion into the workplace, they say.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:15 PM
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4,5: Truly one of the most despicable and morally bankrupt operators in Washington during my lifetime. And that is saying something.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:20 PM
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Success at Baylor basketball = Not getting killed by a teammate and having it covered up by your coach. So she shouldn't complain.

The sanctions [in 2004] so crippled the Bears that they didn't have another winning season until 2008. It is one of the harshest penalties ever imposed on a Division I program that didn't include a death penalty.

4 years without a winning season! Harsh!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 3:30 PM
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Wow, I don't think I ever knew the full story of that murder.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 4:04 PM
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It's not the cover-up that gets you, it's the recruiting violations.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 4:41 PM
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Baylor has 38 words for murder.


Posted by: Bave | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 4:43 PM
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Baylor is totes uninvited to unfoggedecon.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 4:50 PM
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Baylor is awful, but perhaps Griner could have chosen to accept a scholarship from a place that wasn't so hypocritical and where she could have been out in public.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:01 PM
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God damn it, I'm gonna troll this place alone. Would we be so accepting of a white UMC athlete who deliberately hid her sexuality in this manner? Are we not giving Griner fair accountability because she is black?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:04 PM
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Also, while women's basketball is admirable, the quality of play and level of excitement simply isn't comparable to the men's game.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:06 PM
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Doesn't an institution like Baylor have a responsibility to its alumni and its principals to avoid highlighting an out athlete? If this were a public institution, it would be one thing, but are you seriously suggesting that private religious institutions can't ask their students to, at least in public, adhere to the rules of the institution?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:08 PM
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It's of course typical of this blog that a story like this is highlighted but the AP Press scandal is dutifully ignored. Enjoy your smugness, liberals.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:10 PM
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I think Griner is kind of hot. I wish her uniform were a little more revealing.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:11 PM
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I'm unclear why we consider Griner a great athlete when there are at least 100 men in the NBA who are demonstrably better than she is.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:13 PM
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Settle down, tweaker.


Posted by: Chopper | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:16 PM
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When line fishing doesn't work, throw out a grenade.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:16 PM
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I admit that 12 gains some traction with me. I mean, I have no idea if Griner had other options. I'd never heard of her.

That first paragraph at the link does seem like overkill:

When celebrities come out these days, it is almost always a carefully choreographed PR song and dance intended to garner maximum attention while controlling the message from every angle. Magazine covers, talk show appearances, pre-written personal tweets and blog posts. It's brave, yes. But most celebrities massage the situation to be as lucrative as possible.

I've gotten the impression that it's just not true that most athletes orchestrate a great song and dance. Apparently any number have come out quietly, no big deal (I heard this explained on the teevee, so it must be true).


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:37 PM
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20: It doesn't work as well when you tell everybody the grenades are fake first.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 5:50 PM
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Halford, have you listened to the old Bill Simmons podcast where he asked NBA Commissioner David Stern about the NBA supporting and subsidizing the WNBA? It wasn't revealing, exactly, but you might find it sympathetic.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:00 PM
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I seem to remember the ABL having a higher level of play than the WNBA, but it didn't exist for very long.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:02 PM
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Impressive work, Halford.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:08 PM
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In terms of geological time, even association football is barely a blink.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:08 PM
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In terms of geological time, even association football is barely a blink.

The Lord sees even the fall of an XFL.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:10 PM
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Bill Simmons' head is unfortunately still way too not chopped off.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:21 PM
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What do you have against sports fans from Los Angeles, Halford?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:31 PM
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4,5,6: And as if on cue, Bill "Retire Already" Keller with a column in the Times entitled I kid you not.

It's actually not quite as stupid of a column as the title would lead you to believe, but it's pretty close.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:31 PM
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No one made you take Simmons' advice about your fantasy teams, Halford.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:32 PM
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By the way, Griner is totes hot in that second photo at the link, in the white tuxedo. However:

another gay Baylor grad, told the NYT: "Someone always has to be first. And when there's a great shining beacon ... [blah blah blah]. There's so much commercial benefit to Baylor and its national profile. And you can't separate that from who she is."

What's that? Commercial benefit? To Baylor? For harboring a master athlete, I take it.

Sports is - are - so weird. I've been only vaguely aware of Baylor, but wikipedia tells me it's a highly respected research university -- a Baptist one -- which also does sports. Lots of sports. I'd rather institutions of higher learning not be sports driven; it is just so fucking weird.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:37 PM
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wikipedia tells me it's a highly respected research university

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Wikipedia is wrong.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:48 PM
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Thanks, wikipedia!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:48 PM
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Don't thank me; thank thousands of bitter, grudge-holding nerds, busybodies, borderline personalities and pettifogging scolds!


Posted by: OPINIONATED WIKIPEDIA | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:49 PM
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Case in point.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:49 PM
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bitter, grudge-holding nerds, busybodies, borderline personalities and pettifogging scolds

New mouseover?


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:50 PM
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Huh. So this is wrong?

Baylor is now a preeminent research university with a distinct undergraduate focus. Its emphasis on education is demonstrated by a small student body and 14:1 student-faculty ratio, among the lowest in the top American universities and the state of Texas. The university has produced various Fulbright Scholars, Truman Scholars, Marshall Scholars, and Rhodes Scholars. The university has a very high level of research activity for its size. Baylor is also notable for its Law, Business, and Pre-Med programs.

Sorry for the lengthy quoting - it's just to indicate what I'm talking about. It sure does sound like it's written by a Baylor PR team, but still: wikipedia!

So what's Baylor actually like?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 6:55 PM
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"Highly respected" and "preeminent" are exaggerations, I think. But it may be true that it has a high level of research activity for its size. But now that I look it up, it has 15000 students, which isn't that small.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:00 PM
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36: I see. Why did Griner go there, again?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:01 PM
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I knew via her own twitter that she was gay from the time she started at Baylor (because I followed a girl with an obsessive crush on her) and saw her get progressively more closed about it. I was honestly shocked that she came out before leaving Baylor, which to me seemed like a huge, brave leap.

I have not lived a life of brave Halfordismo. I married a man because I thought I didn't deserve to have a happy or satisfying relationship and that no one decent would want me anyway. Brittney Griner chose a homophobic school but was the best player in the country anyway and did it by being quietly honest but not closeting herself and while dealing with outrageously homophobic and transphobic discussion online almost constantly. I think I'd judge a teen of any race who made the same decision just as non-harshly. It's a fucked-up heterosexist system wherever you go and she managed to keep a lot more sanity and grace than I did, so I have no stones to throw.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:02 PM
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40: Just a guess, but academic value may not have been on the top of her list of criteria.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:02 PM
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I don't follow the sport, but she was surely one of the most highly-recruited players in her class. She went to HS in Houston.


Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:03 PM
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"Halfordismo" would make a good name for a blog.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:10 PM
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I married a man because I thought I didn't deserve to have a happy or satisfying relationship and that no one decent would want me anyway.

There are other reasons?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:13 PM
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So what's Baylor actually like?

Rich baptist asshole school full of hypocritical teetotalers?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:14 PM
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Bless their hearts.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:15 PM
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41: I think I'd judge a teen of any race who made the same decision just as non-harshly

Oh, to be clear, I'm not judging her harshly at all. I just honestly don't know how college recruiting of athletes works. I wasn't sure why/how Baylor offered her a more attractive option than other schools which might have made offers, assuming she was that good an athlete. Maybe she just wanted to stay close to home.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:24 PM
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45: Security?


Posted by: OPINIONATED JACK LEMMON OR TONY CURTIS | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:34 PM
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Parsimon, student athletes are often concerned with the quality of the team and athletic program at the school in question.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:42 PM
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49: You mean the security deposit on the hall?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:50 PM
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I think the Baylor Medical Center is, by some measures at least, a world-class institution. That said, I totes rejected an offer to speak at Baylor recently -- though, not surprisingly, not at BMC -- because no thanks. I also recently was barred from speaking at the Reagan Library, which was fine with me.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:58 PM
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I'm sort of notorious, is what I'm saying.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:58 PM
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I also think Greiner is totally baller. And, as a bonus, she seems to be pretty not-horrible as a human being, so I'm a fan.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:59 PM
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I have things to say.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:59 PM
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50: Okay. I apologize for being so dense about this. I gather that the quality of the team and athletic program at Baylor is superior.

It seems like it must have been, since Griner has gone on to greater things. I really just don't speak this language. I was just finding it baffling that someone who happens to be a lesbian would go to Baylor.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:59 PM
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Recently? They've never even considered having me speak there since they opened.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 7:59 PM
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I also recently was barred from speaking at the Reagan Library, which was fine with me.

Interesting—say more?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:00 PM
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I would have liked to have said my things serially, but, you know, the best-laid plans.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:01 PM
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"Baller" is a term?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:01 PM
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"Baller" is a term?

Wow, you weren't kidding when you said you didn't speak this language.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:03 PM
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"Baller" is a term?

No. What gave you the idea that it was?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:03 PM
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58: I was supposed to keynote a fundraiser for an organization with which I'm affiliated, but their advance people said absolutely not. Believe it or not, this was because of a pretty innocuous blog post I co-authored (with a mutual friend of ours) in which we spoke sort-of-but-not-especially unfavorably of his Gipperness. Give this to movement conservatives: they police the boundaries of memory very carefully.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:04 PM
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52: I think the Baylor Medical Center is, by some measures at least, a world-class institution

Yes it is (DeBakey was there). However, it is located within the Texas Medical Center in Houston and has very little connection with the campus in Waco. (Oops, via Wikipedia, it has been independent from Baylor since 1969, only retaining the name.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:05 PM
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To finish my thought -- serially, I hope -- the show went on, though at the Autry instead. It was a nice event, but I don't think as much money was raised as the organizers had hoped. I expect that richer people would have graced the halls of the Reagan Library. Moral: blog posts can follow you around!


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:06 PM
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The "their" in 63 refers to the Reagan Library's advance people. Also, I did not know that BMC had nothing to do with Baylor, though I'm not surprised. In that case, I'm not sure there's anything world-class about Baylor -- except the depths of the institution's assholishness.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:09 PM
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No. What gave you the idea that it was?


It's more of a t̜̻̻̓͌͑̿͛ͨͯ̀͘͝e̖̲͍͑͌͝͝r̭̞͖̞ͤͪͣ͆m̸̺̲͕̣̼̝̮ͪ̾͒̇̕͜.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:11 PM
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I thought the Reagan library's partisan years were supposed to be over now. I continue to think the presidential library system is a bad idea. I blame FDR.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:14 PM
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61: Assuming it's a sports term, I was not.

On preview: good lord! 67 appears as gibberish. Do I need to download some special character set or something?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:18 PM
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SOMEone isn't familiar with all internet traditions.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:20 PM
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Do I need to download some special character set or something?

You may just need to switch browsers. Chrome sucks at rendering special characters, but 67 comes through fine for me in Firefox.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:21 PM
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I'm using Firefox!

I'm going to assume that "balling" is an untoward term best rendered as a string of garbage.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:38 PM
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Oh, sorry, "baller" was the term.

I'd had vague thoughts that it had to do with a particular playing style. Sports-wise.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:41 PM
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"Baller" is used to refer to someone who's still using a mouse with a rolly ball in it.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:47 PM
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Baller is the Spanish infinitive for "to ballet".


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:51 PM
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"Baller" as a noun refers to a (basket)ball player. ("Balling" meaning to play [basket]ball, for reasons which are hopefully pretty transparent.) As an adjective, "baller" therefore means "like a basketball player," i.e., awesome. When applied to an actual basketball player, as in this example, it is a clever play on words in addition to being a compliment.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:54 PM
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74 is funny. We can meld this thread with the OMG thread yet.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:55 PM
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"Baylor," on the other hand, despite being superficially similar phonetically, is etymologically unrelated.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 8:56 PM
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"Baylor" is a corruption of the original, "Bailar". It started out as a dance academy founded by Antonio López de Santa Anna himself. Then the Texans baptized it.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:01 PM
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76: I thank you, teofilo; it's kind of you to explain. I'd been coming to that conclusion. I have never heard anyone use that term, ever, of a [basket]ball player, so, you know.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:04 PM
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79: Actually it gets its name from originally being an educational outreach mission of the The Great Sept of Baelor in King's Landing.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:09 PM
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Parsimon suffers from debilitating agooglia, but with your help—and inordinate patience—we can help her yet.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:10 PM
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Gah, I wish I hadn't repeated "help" like that.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:10 PM
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I'm having some kind of laughing fit: 79 is also funny.

Fucking baptists.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:11 PM
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Gah, I wish I hadn't repeated "help" like that.

You wish you'd repeated it some other way. "Help! Help!" perhaps.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:13 PM
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Did Santa Anna found the dancing academy before or after they buried his leg with military honors?


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:13 PM
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82: Oh, neb, you know my view is that compulsive googling is the way of the beast, for how shall conversations be had, short of an exchange of links?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:25 PM
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In general, in these cases, the exchange of links goes like this:

PARSIMON: I don't understand this isolated term or reference and I'm unwilling to find out for myself.
SOMEONE ELSE: here, I'll google up an explanation for you: [link].

Conversation!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:28 PM
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86: More Santa Anna leg trivia: Santa Anna famously used a prosthetic cork leg; during the Mexican-American War, it was captured and kept by American troops. The cork leg is displayed at the Illinois State Military Museum in Springfield. The Mexican government has repeatedly asked for its return. Santa Anna had a replacement leg made which is displayed at the Museo Nacional de Historia in Mexico City>

But Stanley probably knows all of this via the King of the Hill episode.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:33 PM
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I learned about the Santa Anna leg thing in a history class, and King of the Hill fucking blows.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:37 PM
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I just learned about the leg today.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:39 PM
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Such anger in one so young. A pity really.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:40 PM
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90.last: Yep.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:41 PM
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Don't encourage him.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:44 PM
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92: I was just trying to relate my opinion in the vulgar tradition of Stormcrow-speak.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:45 PM
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People like King of the Hill?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:46 PM
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To tie the subthreads, I was thinking that Baylor College of Medicine might be on San Jacinto St. (pronounced with the soft 'J" sound), but it ends just north of the Medical Center.

Other Texas Medical Center trivia: The TMC includes the site of the Shamrock Hotel built in the '40s by Glenn McCarthy who was the model for Jet Rink in Giant (and the famous gala opening party is at at the end of that film). It had a huge fricking pool. Swam in it once or twice.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:53 PM
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95: Well you didn't do it right. Asshole.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:54 PM
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96: Not me. Evidently somebody did.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 9:57 PM
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Time to repeat this comment.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 10:00 PM
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The summer after my first year of grad school I went to a colli/der phy/sics sum/mer scho/ol at a certain institute in central New Jersey. I had to share an apartment with two douchebags, one of whom was a grad student at Baylor. Aside from being a misogynist, he thought he was smarter than all the other students at the school, because of his groundbreaking work on warp drives. He seemed a little fuzzy on the distinction between science and science fiction.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 10:03 PM
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30: Folks should read @jamisonfoser's epic twitter rant triggered by Bill Keller's Ken Starr stupidity.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 10:18 PM
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30: Oops, see I lost the article title. It was "Bring Back Ken Starr."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 10:20 PM
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101: Are you saying he couldn't "make it go"?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 05-21-13 10:26 PM
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King of the Hill fucking blows

That boy ain't right.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:26 AM
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48: My (gossip-driven) understanding is that in fact she wanted to stay close to her girlfriend at the time and wasn't too interested in leaving Texas and I don't follow college basketball closely but certainly can't think of a better basketball school in Texas off the top of my head, though there are plenty of good programs in surrounding states.

It's sort of interesting to me that she could be semi-out at a school like Baylor and yet perennial powerhouse UConn apparently still refuses to bring in openly gay players and is notorious for queerbaiting and driving lesbians off the basketball team. I am probably saying something about myself here, living as I do in what's not exactly a liberal paradise and the sort of place people are supposed to leave when they're gay to go somewhere friendlier, and yet I see the value to myself and to the straight people around of being here. (I also talked with a new-to-the-neighborhood gay couple at Garden Club last night and I think it's time to start organizing official gay neighborhood get-togethers.) I do think there are benefits to stealthily infiltrating less-hospitable situations, though that has obvious downsides too.

Back on Griner specifically, I'm paying attention to her because she's really impressed me as someone who keeps her cool, coming out in her early teens despite lots of anti-gay and appearance-based bullying before she did so, finding a way through college that obviously worked for her, and now writing eloquently for the NY Times and also giving interviews about her love of skateboarding. To be that genuine and together when she's a star athlete AND coming out publicly AND the subject of nasty gossip for years AND black AND 22 years old is part of what makes her unusual and cool, IMO.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 7:06 AM
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88, 100: Did she succeed in trolling this thread? Yes, yes she did!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 9:22 AM
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To be that genuine and together when she's a star athlete AND coming out publicly AND the subject of nasty gossip for years AND black AND 22 years old is part of what makes her unusual and cool, IMO.

Her remarks about working with Kareem were also absurdly charming. Baller.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 9:31 AM
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I thought "baller" was a terms for a big spender or flashy person. I didn't realize it was used for "basketball player".


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 9:33 AM
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And from the where-are-they-now files, the former Baylor coach (the "dead player was a drug dealer" men's one, not Griner's coach) is the Dean of Students/Athletic Director at a small college prepatory school in Texas. And where within less than a year of his arrival he was sanctioned by the high school sports association they competed in leading the school to withdraw and join an association of smaller Christian schools so he could continue to coach and where they have apparently done very well (winning at least on state title).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 10:32 AM
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Was it as delightful as every other instance of trolling ever? Perhaps!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 10:36 AM
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88, 100: Did she succeed in trolling this thread? Yes, yes she did!

FOAD


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 10:37 AM
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Jeez, neb. Lighten up? I tease you guys sometimes.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 10:57 AM
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109: Me too.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:20 AM
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Wish I was a little bit taller!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:21 AM
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In matters of slang, the speech and writing of Jewish history professors from the interior of California shall be determinative.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:23 AM
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114: Whenever somebody order guac at Chipotle, I say, "You go big baller."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:27 AM
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I mean, if I'm there and I'm eating with them. I don't stake out the place or shout at strangers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:27 AM
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115: wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six-four impala.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 11:31 AM
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neb's 112 is upsetting me a little bit: are you / is he really that angry with me? I do reserve the right to be playful from time to time; and of course I have a reputation here now for being unable to look things up, so it's not hard to play to that.

Maybe it's a cost of the trade I'm in: I google things throughout the day. What is gemcitabine? Who is Francisco Ayala?

In the event, there are times when I'd rather just ask people (who obviously know). I don't know -- I'm sorry I made you mad, Ben.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:01 PM
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Your "playfulness" regarding your inability to function around unfamiliar terms is indistinguishable from your ingenuous inability to function around unfamiliar terms. Each is highly annoying, the former more because you're doing it on purpose. Why you would expect anyone to respond well to it is beyond my comprehension. Calling it "playfulness" doesn't make it playful.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:21 PM
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I think saying that you successfully trolled the thread was a little inflammatory -- I understand that to mean "I asked for help in a way that I know people find annoying because I wanted to draw that reaction, and you were stupid enough to give me the reaction I wanted. I win!" Which is going to irritate people.

If what you meant was that you actually did want people to explain the meaning of "baller" to you -- that is, that your requests for help were sincere -- your 107 was a bad way of putting it.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:21 PM
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I google for a living, too. Gemcitibine is a cancer drug, generic for Gemzar. Ayala is that philosophy of biology/evolution guy. I can tell you that stuff without googling and other things I google. If I want to learn something from someone here, I want to learn something interesting and an easily searchable thing doesn't hit that mark for me.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:29 PM
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Just for reassurance, it's totally charming when I troll the blog, though. Right?


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:33 PM
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Of course, Eggplant.

<3 <3 <3


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:35 PM
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124: Of course, Eggplant!

Honeslty, I thought nosflow's reaction was over the top.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:37 PM
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124.1, 125.1: Comity!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:38 PM
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That's my last commenter
On the wall
You better not
Provoke me, peep.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:38 PM
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121, 122: Understood. I won't do it again.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:39 PM
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Grammar jokes, frequent one-liners, and in-jokes don't always work either.

Both here and on twitter, neither sincerity nor sustained irony work all that well, I think.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:39 PM
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130: Silence is only foolproof method of communication, but I lack the strength to sustain it.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:45 PM
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But did you have to goggle "FOAD"?


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:50 PM
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128.--It's like having ogged back! As in, terrifying.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:50 PM
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Oh my god, I cannot believe I typed "goggle". I AM A WINNER!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:50 PM
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Oh JM, you know just what to say to a guy.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:53 PM
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132: I did. I remembered seeing it before, but not what it stood for. I was a little shocked when I saw it written out. The discussion had seemed so silly and harmless.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:54 PM
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132: I did. I forgot what it meant. Don't travel in circles that would use the term much, or at all.

The other day I was jointly reading something online with my work partner, and he kept pausing to ask, "What's MSM?" "What's s/b? I guess that person is replying to someone called s/b" (no.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:57 PM
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131. Right, so one extends an assumption of at least partial good intentions absent demonstrated mental illness.

I goggled FOAD also, seems synonymous with fuck you, clown, right?


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 12:58 PM
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I think of baller as meaning, depending on context, many things, including some variant of cool. For example, "The Cheese Board has my favorite pizza of the day today. Baller." (This happens to be true, though I would never say such a thing.) That Greiner happens to ball, professionally, was a happy accident.


Posted by: vw | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:15 PM
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Is everybody in California afraid to mention eating carbs?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:23 PM
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119: For the longest time I thought the line was "6' 4" father" -- you know, so he could be a little bit taller.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:27 PM
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141: Some of us may not have realized that until comment 119.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:30 PM
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126.2 Me too.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:47 PM
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142: Some of us may have had to google those phrases to figure out what in the world this was about, but even the commenters at songmeanings. com weren't sure why the fellow would wish for a rabbit in a hat with a bat. And so one question answered just leads to another question, and the neverending quest for knowledge continues.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:49 PM
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I'd always been curious about the lyrics, but never curious enough to look them up. Thanks, Sifu!


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:50 PM
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bat is rum, yac is cognac.

trick, maybe? years ago, trick could be either an act that you paid for, the person who was paid, or a synonym for snitching.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 1:55 PM
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I've finally come up with a satisfactorily non-racist reason for my inability to appreciate hip-hop -- I'm just not smart enough.

The fact that it took me so long to figure that out though -- that was probably racism.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:03 PM
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You know who else never appreciated?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:09 PM
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148: Hitler?


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:10 PM
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Florida real estate?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:11 PM
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Hip-hop.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:14 PM
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I'm invoking the "If you can't even type a short sentence get off the internet" rule.

Off to work on budgets.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:16 PM
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I can proudly say that I never thought he wanted to get with a Yoshi.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:37 PM
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We did in fact give our kid a so-called ghetto name, but neither Lil Hoopdie nor Big Al.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:41 PM
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146

Illusion, Michael. A trick is something a whore does for money ... or candy!


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 2:54 PM
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Big Al is a ghetto name? Huh. This amuses me based on the Big Als I know IRL.


Posted by: Di Kotimy | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 3:14 PM
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According to Skee-Lo.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 3:35 PM
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Personally, I find my own deliberate attempts to provoke conversation by stating strong claims, or what some may refer to as "trolling," charming and fascinating, though as already revealed I'm fairly delusional.

Still, I feel that simply acting like an idiot and refusing to Google simple terms while demanding that others do so for you is at best a very low form of trolling, one hardly worthy of the name. This blog demands a higher standard of trolling, in the names of masters Ogged and Urple.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 4:15 PM
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I refuse to believe urple is trolling.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 4:20 PM
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It's a genuinely novel trolling act.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 5:28 PM
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160: I think that was Hitler.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 5:31 PM
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Faux and/or intentional naivete is the lowest form of trolling.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 5:50 PM
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I like my trolls like my dehumidifiers, reliable and efficient.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 05-22-13 5:58 PM
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