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Thought this was going to be the Weiner thread.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:18 PM
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We can always make it one, JM.


Posted by: Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq. | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:29 PM
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Not yet you can't. I've gotten messages at work that, when opened, said the sender wanted a return receipt. However, it did offer you the option of not sending said receipt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:36 PM
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I think it was labeled "passive-aggressively stall". But when it is really important, they also email my boss's secretary.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:41 PM
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I request the receipt when I send secure messages to my parents medical team. They haven't been prompt about some financial stuff at the health center portion. For me that's like sending something by certified mail.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:42 PM
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I believe it took me about 5 seconds to turn that function off when Apple added it to iMessage in an iOS update. Sent shivers down my spine, it did.


Posted by: widget | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:46 PM
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Man did I wish I knew if my AIM messages had been read, back in college.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:48 PM
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I'm not fond of this feature, or ones like it. But far far more do I hate Gmail's new multiple inboxes. NOT HELPFUL.

(Yes, I know I can turn it off -- but it also means that the emails my organization sends out will be auto-routed to nevernever land. Bummer.)

In other news, I wasn't following the Anthony Weiner story at all until my Twitter feed started filling up with women bemoaning Huma's stand-by-my-husband moment.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 2:54 PM
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Carlos Danger is almost as good as Ron Mexico. Almost.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:01 PM
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Sometimes I imagine Huma Abedin looking like Marisa Paredes on account of Huma Rojo, her character in All About My Mother. (Yesterday I started talking to a friend about how I found How I Met Your Mother only moderately funny only I said All About My Mother and moderate hilarity ensued. "I thought that was about a bunch of people with AIDS....?") I am really not on topic. I'm sorry Huma-Geebie.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:02 PM
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8.1: I've grown to like that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:06 PM
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I'll say this about Anthony Weiner: at this point, I wish he were a more useful public servant because someone this entertaining would be fun to have to kick around for awhile.

He might make a good borough president.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:15 PM
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9: God, nothing, NOTHING is as good as Ron Mexico.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:24 PM
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Post read by fake accent.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:25 PM
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God, nothing, NOTHING is as good as Ron Mexico.

I know of a few dogs who might disagree.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:52 PM
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14 was cute, but I'm sure she diligently checks the IP logs anyway.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 3:59 PM
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Can we all agree that anyone who requests a read receipt by default on every email is insane?

(Not quite as insane as anyone who sends every email "high priority" by default, but close.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:08 PM
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You remember how there are anthropomorphic personifications of abstract concepts in Terry Pratchett? I think at this point, that Anthony Weiner may be the actual personification of a penis.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:09 PM
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The head of my old firm used to send every single email high priority, regardless of the topic. !YOU ARE INVITED TO A SUMMER BARBECUE. That the emails often arrived between 4-5 am was also a nice touch.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:10 PM
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Can we all agree that anyone who requests a read receipt by default on every email is insane?

(Not quite as insane as anyone who sends every email "high priority" by default, but close.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:12 PM
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Can we all agree that anyone who requests a read receipt by default on every email is insane?

(Not quite as insane as anyone who sends every email "high priority" by default, but close.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:12 PM
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Oops.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:13 PM
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Uh oh. He's finally starting to lose it.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:13 PM
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... I wasn't sure he ever had it.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:15 PM
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I can't even imagine the likely mental state of someone who set their default settings to send every email high priority AND request a read receipt. I just feel lucky that I've never encountered such a person. They must be out there.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:16 PM
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18: Is that anti-semitic? I've always felt a bit embarrassed by my antipathy to the man, but his confirmed sleaziness has gone a long way toward remedying that.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:20 PM
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18: Looking forward to The Penis of Rats.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:21 PM
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How do I turn off this gmail feature?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 4:47 PM
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28 to 27.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 5:32 PM
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28: Click on the little gear in the upper-right corner. Select Settings. Choose Inbox. UN-check all of the boxes except Primary. Save changes.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 5:36 PM
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26: No, it's not anti-semitic if you can find a Semite to agree with you, and that's so, so easy in this case. The guy might be talented but he's got the judgment of a horny teen. Fine for them, not for anyone with power.


Posted by: Biohazard | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 5:36 PM
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In other news, unanticipated consequences of wearing a full-skirted sundress: Just got the inner-thigh patdown from the TSA.

Maybe I just look dangerous. Probably the pearl earrings.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 5:37 PM
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31: On the other hand, if after all this he can get his wife on stage with him, he might just be the best mayor ever because he's so persuade.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 5:42 PM
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8: Yes, I know I can turn it off -- but it also means that the emails my organization sends out will be auto-routed to nevernever land. Bummer.

How so? How so the organizational emails get sent to nevernver land? I turned it off after a couple of hours of experimentation, and as far as I can tell, my gmail inbox now looks exactly the way it used to.

(I can see some use for tabbed, multiple inboxes -- after all, that's how I have thunderbird set up -- but gmail seems to want to make guesses for me, which is a no-go. It's not customizable enough.)


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:22 PM
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Or actually, thunderbird doesn't provide actual tabs for the multiple folders (inboxes); I think Eudora used to. I liked Eudora :(


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:24 PM
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She was so mean to Darrin.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:30 PM
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27 is clarified by 7


Posted by: turgid jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:36 PM
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@3

Fair enough, I should have qualified my comment.


Posted by: Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq. | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:40 PM
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On the other hand, if after all this he can get his wife on stage with him, he might just be the best mayor ever because he's so persuade.

The woman must be deranged.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:43 PM
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39: well she's got to be getting there by now, if she wasn't before.


Posted by: turgid jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 6:47 PM
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I feel sorry for Weiner. He has to choose. If he is mayor of New York, the whole world looks at him, but no one looks at his penis. On the other hand, if he finds some nice lady on the internet who wants to look at his penis, he can't be mayor of New York and have everyone looking at him. What is an exhibitionist to do?


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:11 PM
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I sometimes have a sort of solidarity-based crankiness response to certain versions of genderqueerness that seems related to LB's. It goes sort of like: "do you think that the rest of us don't chafe at the social construction of our gender? And also, hey, don't just jump ship and disavow femalekind, that's not nice or responsible!" (This is then followed by a similar "Oh shut up, me, you don't know what you're talking about.")


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:12 PM
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Oh good, wrong thread! Well done, me.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:12 PM
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I believe that 41 gets it right.

On the other hand, if after all this he can get his wife on stage with him, he might just be the best mayor ever because he's so persuade.

Hang on now, didn't he say when he announced his candidacy that there would probably be more revelations of waywardness? I assumed, then, that he'd already told Huma about all that.

I totes don't get why he's persisting in running for office. Maybe he thinks he's in France or Italy.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:28 PM
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44.last: be the filanderer you want to see in the world


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:37 PM
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Anyway, it's all role-play! He did not actually have sex with that woman! It's like cosplay.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 7:47 PM
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I am stuck for hours in the airport listening to these IDIOTIC television anchors blather on and on about the royal baby.

Comment, people! I need entertainment.

(I'm honestly debating whether to start timing the number of minutes devoted to this story compared to other news.)

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Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:14 PM
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Good grief. The anchor just said "That's Diana in Milan in 1985, and that's Kate in London in 2008. Notice anything similar? That's the SAME SHADE of pink."

I really really wish I had one of those remotes that let you shut off televisions.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:22 PM
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listening to these IDIOTIC television anchors blather on and on about the royal baby.

And these are American anchors, I take it? It's a bit ridiculous.

41 made me laugh. So: is Weiner still a viable candidate at this point (if he ever was one)? Or is the latest, er, revelation enough to do him in?


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:26 PM
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48.1: Obviously America needs its own Royal Family. I'd like to propose Kanye West and Kim Kardashian.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:31 PM
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50: No, that seems like a perfect position for Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin to take.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:32 PM
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I'm sympathetic to the Privatize the Royal Family discussion, I'll tell you that.

Geeze Louise. I just realized I can actually see (not just hear) this TV. The station is CNN. Holy smokes. I had no idea how far they had fallen.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:34 PM
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Just imagine: King Weiner!


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:36 PM
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The station is CNN.

Isn't all airport television CNN?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:37 PM
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54: I have no idea. I have a lifelong habit of staying as far away from airport television as humanly possible. I'm hoping that now that it's 8:30pm here the rest of the airport has emptied out enough that I can move soon, since I still have another 2+ hours to sit around.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:39 PM
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55: I think in Dallas it might be Fox News.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:39 PM
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53: I'm not sending you a picture so you don't need to bother imagining. Stop asking.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:40 PM
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I wasn't asking you to send a picture.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 8:51 PM
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I'm sympathetic to the Privatize the Royal Family discussion, I'll tell you that.

"We pity the plumage, but forget the dying bird," as Shelley once put it.

But living in the States has really softened my anti-monarchical stance, I have to say. I used to be outraged -- outraged, I say! -- by the meaningless archaic pomp and circumstance of the spectacle of so-called "royalty," by the frilly collars and the folderol. Watching US state governments turn out the lights, however, because they can't agree on a budget to pay for the electricity (because the state budget process has been captured by wingnuts and weirdos) has been a bit of an eye-opener.

I still support democracy over monarchy. But republicanism over monarchy? I'm not sure.


Posted by: Mary Catherine | Link to this comment | 07-23-13 9:17 PM
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Can we all agree that anyone who requests a read receipt by default on every email is insane?

No we can't. We can assume that they're being ridden by a deadline fixated boss with too much time on their hands.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 3:59 AM
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60!!!! So true. The person doing the requesting might have an insane boss.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 4:16 AM
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Stupid late capitalism.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:34 AM
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The early capitalism gets the worker.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:40 AM
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If a politician could just say "my partner and I have an open relationship" and still get elected, we'd have a lot fewer fake scandals.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:48 AM
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I don't know. I suspect that the couples where both are fine with an open relationship exist now and aren't making scandals.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:57 AM
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"We have an open relationship, but don't tell my spouse."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:58 AM
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Yes.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:03 AM
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Yes, that is what I was thinking of. Plus, when you see somebody acting like Weiner, I think maybe he gets off on the risk more than the women.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:04 AM
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If a politician could just say "my partner and I have an open relationship" and still get elected, we'd have a lot fewer fake scandals be ruled by a bunch of hippies. Do you want to be ruled by hippies? Nothing on C-SPAN but Phish concerts and hacky-sack marathons?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:05 AM
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Not to psychoanalyze when I've had no training and never met the guy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:09 AM
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Although hacky-sack marathons could add a certain frisson to the filibuster rules.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:10 AM
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I liked the fact that in the movie Bulworth that Bulworth and his wife had a completely sham marriage where the wife had a new boyfriend, without spelling it out in dialogue Hollywood-style.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:12 AM
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Hacky-sack ... to the death!


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:13 AM
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I would like to be ruled by hippies.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:14 AM
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73 to 74.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:16 AM
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74 to 73, my friend. 74 to 73.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:17 AM
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68 is right. A guy in Weiner's position has easy access to extramarital nookie if he cares to pursue it. Doing it by means where the chance of getting caught and humiliated is high has to be part of the draw.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:18 AM
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Maybe Weiner should have an aide write up a white paper titled, "The advantages of having an affair with someone you can physically touch and who has reasons of her own not to talk to the press and/or whatever the fuck 'The Dirty' is."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:22 AM
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Doing it by means where the chance of getting caught and humiliated is high has to be part of the draw.

He doesn't seem humiliated. Politicians (and their insane spouses) want to be on television, talking about whatever they can. If it has to be a confession, they can make themselves comfortable with that.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:23 AM
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73: The most dirtiest game.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:23 AM
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79: I think he's to some extent getting off on the whole thing, so maybe humiliation is not quite the right term. His wife certainly seems humiliated. Poor woman. DTMFA.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:30 AM
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I've always gotten the sense that Weiner's favorite part of politics was dashing from microphone to microphone.


Posted by: Jackmormon | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:38 AM
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IYKWIM.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:41 AM
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When Huma's sexts come out, that's when the scandal will get fun.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 6:53 AM
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You're just raising my hopes because you enjoy seeing them crushed.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:06 AM
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Oh, she'll be fine. Every press conference just adds to the value of her inevitable book contract.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:08 AM
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84: The Gift of the Magi/Pina Colada Song twist ending would be that, unbeknownst to each other, they'd been sexting each other all along. ("Huh. Turns out it's surprisingly hard to identify someone from their genitalia.")


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:10 AM
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87: As a song I was familiar with that trope via Kate Bush's "Babooshka" (although certainly not my favorite song of hers). I see that it came out relatively soon after Pina Colada.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:26 AM
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Babooshka as a sexily adulterous pseudonym? I thought that was the word for a little old Russian woman in a headscarf.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:28 AM
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From Wikipedia: Kate Bush said that's "something I didn't realise at the time," when she learnt that Babushka is the Russian word for "grandmother" (although the stress in Russian falls on the first syllable, not the second).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:30 AM
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"The Russian language has no word for 'grandmother.'"


Posted by: Opinionated Ronald Reagan | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:33 AM
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Way OT: This study, via. I am annoyed at the emphasis on spillover effects (and the implicit assumption that black workers are payed less because they are less productive (due to fewer social contacts and the skills thereby gained)) in the abstract and the NPR story, when any effects could easily (and more intuitively, to me at least) be explained by social networking's benefits in job hunting. Also, am I being unfair by scrolling down to Figure 1 and deciding there's no way you can conclude anything as complicated as what they are proposing from that data? This is a tiny trend, and I can imagine any number of stories that could be consistent with the data. But I'm not a $RELEVANT_OCCUPATION, and I only skimmed the article, so.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 8:35 AM
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Is it just me or did the adds on gmail get much more obtrusive and annoying yesterday?

[Perhaps they just figured out how to get around the adblocking plugin I have -- but even so it seems that the adds have moved from the sidebar to the top line of the inbox. Annoying.]


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:00 AM
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64: Or "my partner and I have a non-sexual relationship because I get off on sexting strangers and she's Hillary's girlfriend."


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:03 AM
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92. Laughably bad. shitty fit, shitty attempt to identify other relevant variables (eg distance from Atlanta).


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:10 AM
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Whoops, via MeFi, which has a link to the credulous NPR story.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:35 AM
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Oh, what the hell. Here.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:35 AM
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Huh. The woman who was my "other mother" from roughly toddlerhood through 1st grade, and who has remained a close family friend over the many years and miles of separation, now has a grown, redheaded son of her own who is running for Congress in Iowa. I didn't realize until just now, as I was listening to MSNBC on the satellite radio and heard him interviewed, that the seat he's running for is the one held by insane racist Steve King. Go, Jim!
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Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:54 AM
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98: Huh. At first I couldn't tell if he was a Democrat or Republican, but okay, Democrat. Maybe he has a shot, between his soldier cred and the fact that Republican leadership is kind of pissed off with Steve King (and none too happy with Marco Rubio, either) over their stances on immigration reform. Jim should totes talk up a pro-immigration reform stance. Go, Jim!


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:38 AM
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Oh, but there are a lot of 2016 presidential hopefuls sucking up to Steve King, so.


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:43 AM
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I'm sure everyone knows by now, but the the royal baby is another George.

How much must it suck not to have much of a say in how your baby is named?

Also, wait: George. Alexander. Louis. What is this, an agglomeration of greats?


Posted by: parsimon | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:00 PM
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How much must it suck not to have much of a say in how your baby is named?

I know a lot of men who don't.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:53 PM
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How much must it suck not to have much of a say in how your baby is named?

Yeah, it's not so bad.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:06 PM
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103: Not so bad -- as long as you get to choose the baby's internet pseudonym.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:11 PM
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Boy George. Ok, but I still think Spencer wouldn't been more forward leaning.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:16 PM
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would've


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:16 PM
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I thought they might be fans of Prince and Joseph Heller and so decide to name the kid Prince.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:18 PM
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Or else maybe they would be angling for a reality TV crossover, and name the kid, South.


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:20 PM
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The Prince Formerly Speculatively Known as Prince.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:25 PM
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Slate dares to ask the big question!

Will All Babies Be Named George Now?

I haven't read the article, but I'm guessing the answer is no.


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109: Very good!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:29 PM
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Royal Labor Has Royally Begun:94 -> one-half of 108.


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