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The Spirit issue with the Spirit lying in an alley all day with a gunshot wound during a New York heatwave was great.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:00 AM
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New York still has a shocking amount of non-airconditioning, at least for the modern-day equivalent class of people described in the article.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:09 AM
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You think you would like to have been there but gah that area of the country is not habitable in August.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:12 AM
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I would like to have been there and slept in the park with everyone.

White privilege!


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:21 AM
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I can't dig up a quote, but I seem to recall an H. L. Mencken piece where he praises air conditioning as one of the greatest advances of modern civilization.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:35 AM
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I hate not being air conditioned.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:38 AM
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This reminds me a little of one of the bits of Agee Samuel Barber uses in Knoxville: Summer of 1915.

"On the rough wet grass of the back yard my father and mother have spread quilts. We all lie there, my mother, my father, my uncle, my aunt, and I too am lying there....They are not talking much, and the talk is quiet, of nothing in particular, of nothing at all.....with voices gentle and meaningless like the voices of sleeping birds."


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:38 AM
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RWM hates summer, and particularly hated NYC summer. Our new town (which needs a pseud) has roughly the same temperature range in the summer as NYC, which I was worried would be a problem. Turns out just not being NYC improves things immensely. Temperature drops better at night due to lack of heat island, no waiting on subway platforms, no hot garbage smell everywhere, central air, etc. Same high temperatures but without all the miserable.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:39 AM
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It feels a bit ridiculous complaining about English summer heat compared to New York's, but without air conditioning it really has been hellish trying to sleep the last week or so. I can't even open the windows in my bedroom because they're floor to ceiling and I'm on the ground floor.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:43 AM
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A lot of folks complain about the fact that SF doesn't have a "real" summer, but then I remember the hell that is NYC at 90 degrees and 100% humidity, and I happily shrug into my long-sleeve shirt and jacket. Fuck that noise.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:43 AM
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Topically, it is 64 right now in Pittsburgh. After the last couple of weeks, I'm so glad. I still think I'm going to try to swim this afternoon.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:49 AM
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Our secret.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:56 AM
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72 degrees every day in summer sounds like heaven to me.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 9:59 AM
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The invention of air conditioning was a necessary precondition for the the migration of white northerners to the Sun Belt, the second most momentous demographic event of the latter half of the 20th century, the reverberations of which are still being felt in our politics.


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:00 AM
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In fairness to New York, it's rarely the hellish combination of heat and humidity it was last week. The hot garbage smell is something I won't miss, though. Or maybe Oakland is garbagey and I won't have to miss it, I don't know.

(My memories of Town Where I Seem To Remember Unfoggetarian Lives in summer is that the heat and humidity were pretty brutal. Also speaking of Unfoggetarian now that I am doing evil British crosswords ((slowly, angrily)) things sometimes look like evil British crossword clues that aren't.)


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:01 AM
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Our secret.

That comic seems to have confused San Francisco with Santa Barbara.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:07 AM
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15.2. "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) is a cryptic crossword clue. Did you not solve it?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:10 AM
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I am also glad that it is not awfully hot this week. A garbage truck went by me on my walk to work yesterday, and the fumes off of it, which lingered in the vicinity long after it had passed, were enough to gag a maggot. Horrid.

Copenhagen sounds like a perfect climate to me -- hat and gloves in the winter, but no danger of your eyelids freezing to your glasses, and pleasant upper-60s to lower-70s summers.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:10 AM
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71 degrees outside right now. Admittedly, we have about 1 1/2 months of somewhat unpleasant (but really not that bad) weather that hasn't started yet.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:12 AM
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Certainly the summer weather here is objectively pretty bad (humidity is high, highs are a few degrees higher than in NYC, but lows are a few degrees lower), but the point is that it's not just a simple correlation between weather and miserableness. Just taking subway platforms out of the equation is a huge difference.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:15 AM
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11: Yes, a nice shot of "Polar" air* for this time of year. Significant enough to influence the east coast (Central Park slated to go lower than 70 this evening for first time in nearly two weeks--normal is 69).

*They really blew it on airmass names -- The "Polar" ones that affect the US are actually generally over the North Pacific, Canada and the North Atlantic, over the pole is the "Arctic" airmass.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:17 AM
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The downside of Copenhagen is that that mild winter comes with extreme darkness.

I think the best summer weather in the US is Seattle (slightly warmer than the bay area). For year-round maybe Santa Fe?


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:19 AM
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Not counting Hawaii, of course.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:20 AM
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San Diego (the city, not way inland in the county) has unquestionably the best year-round weather.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:23 AM
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As shown here.

Santa Monica is also very good..


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:25 AM
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By comparison with Santa Fe, NM.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:27 AM
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I think the best summer weather in the US is Seattle (slightly warmer than the bay area).

Anyone who doesn't think the best summer weather in the US is in Northern Michigan either has never been to Northern Michigan in the summer or is stupid.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:28 AM
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You forgot about people who have never been anywhere other than Northern Michigan in the summer, unless that counts as stupid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:29 AM
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Halford's right that it seems difficult to beat San Diego year round, if you like your weather to be forever boringly pleasant.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:29 AM
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25: Yes, I think there are a string of non-fog-favored coastal places along the southern half of California that are best year round for continental l US. How far they extend inland controlled by local topography. I lived in Fullerton and found it pretty good--a bit far inland, but with an attic fan very tolerable without AC except for a few anomalous nights in the summer.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:30 AM
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27: That area still gets caught up in the uncomfortable humid air masses from time to time unlike Seattle.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:32 AM
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I would take Santa Fe weather over East Coast weather. (I worry about all of New Mexico drying up and burning, but set that aside.) East Coast weather produces some nice moments, but it is generally hell. Summers and winters suck. Spring is too wet and too short. Fall is generally quite nice unless something goes wrong, like heatwave, early snow, or hurricane. I am so fucking happy to be almost done with East Coast weather.


Posted by: Bave | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:35 AM
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27: And I've been there quite a bit in the summer. (But yes, it is generally quite pleasant although "summer" can end a bit early; it got to near freezing at the end of August on one trip to the UP).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:35 AM
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uncomfortable humid air masses from time to time

This is essential in order to make an occasional swim in a lake that much more pleasant.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:37 AM
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I would like to live in Santa Fe because I've always wanted something adobe.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:37 AM
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(Full disclosure: I've never actually been to Michigan.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:40 AM
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Yeah, I'm happy to admit I was wrong on the San Diego point.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:40 AM
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I've just developed strong opinions on their weather based on field reports.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:41 AM
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34: Like at 2 AM when you can't sleep because the vacation cottage doesn't have AC.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:41 AM
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That said, I do think there's an argument to be made for seasons over not-seasons assuming you actually get the pleasant version of the season. (Of course, it's really hard to find places where you get the pleasant version of all seasons. In particular, everywhere with a great fall has at least two other terrible seasons.)


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:42 AM
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Montana is lovely in the summer. But so is northern Michigan.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:42 AM
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re: 9

It's pretty nasty at the moment. It was 29 degrees (c) in our bedroom a couple of nights ago, and has been averaging 26 or 27 every night for a week or two.

I wake up literally soaked in sweat, as if I'm suffering from some sort of 19th c. ague.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:44 AM
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Hah. Copenhagen is about the same latitude as northern England.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:45 AM
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It's not really that far off in longitude either.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:46 AM
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Northern England is also really dark. Hell, Belgium is pretty dark in the winter.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:48 AM
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My never-to-be-actually-built retirement website project has a lot of neat ways to compare and contrast climate and weather information that are right up this alley.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:48 AM
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You've gotta keep in mind that NYC is south of Rome. Europe is just a dark dark place in the winter.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:50 AM
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This is essential in order to make an occasional swim in a lake that much more pleasant.

Like at 2 AM when you can't sleep because the vacation cottage doesn't have AC.

It's like you guys are brainstorming for Friday The 13th Part XV.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:54 AM
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Just taking subway platforms out of the equation is a huge difference.

I'm a little bit sheltered from this because my subway station is way underground, so it's never terribly hot or cold. (Compensating factors include the guy who shuffles around by the doors of the entrance and occasionally shouts at people and the guy who sits in the tunnel playing I-vi-ii-V* on his guitar incessantly and singing "everybody have a good day today....everybody have a good day today....everybody have a good day today" &c &c &c, and the weird way the tunnel gets incredibly wet and slippery and low hanging fruity in wet weather.)

*this may be totally wrong.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:55 AM
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And of course the fact that my subway station is in my neighborhood.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 10:56 AM
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I have to stand outside and catch the bus like a hobo.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:04 AM
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51: Canonically, I believe it is "like a schnook"


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:06 AM
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The bindle was supposed to be a hint that I wanted a new messenger bag for Christmas, but nobody got the message.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:06 AM
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You should get a ReLoad bag, they're awesome. Or a Black Rose -- made by anarchists!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:09 AM
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Isn't Northern Michigan kind of humid? I guess that's not as much of an issue if it doesn't get too hot.

We've had a very hot month now, but so long as you can get yourself into the river every day, it's not so bad. (I have AC in my office, but not my house. Temps in the 50s every night, anyway, so sleeping isn't an issue). One has to be careful, though, when visiting EMo the Redneck Riviera.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:15 AM
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re: 49

Rhythm changes! Also a pretty generic pop or folky-pop sort of progression.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:17 AM
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Myrtle Beach was what I heard was the Redneck Riviera.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:17 AM
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57: Confirmed.


Posted by: Opinionated Kenny Powers | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:19 AM
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The guy who told me would make White Castle Pâté, so I figured him as an expert.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:25 AM
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Not Panama City?

It's a 40 minute float or so from the fishing access in East Missoula to downtown, and on a hot afternoon, hundreds of people make the trip.

Which reminds me, I need to head down to the river for lunch (with music) right now.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:27 AM
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60.1: Florida had to moved into its own class for that kind of stuff.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:29 AM
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Converting to Fahrenheit, it's 84 or 85 in our bedroom at night. Which is shite.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:31 AM
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Annoyingly, right now I have the windows closed because the 'kids' [I think actually in their early 20s] two doors up are rapping in their back-garden studio. Where rapping seems to mean screaming tunelessly and out of time over some beats.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:32 AM
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62: That's only six degrees above what we keep our AC at, though the AC does cut the humidity nice. Also, I sneak it lower than 78 when my wife isn't looking.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:34 AM
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+ly


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:34 AM
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60.1: Yeah, Redneck Riviera is Florida Panhandle area, and most include Alabama Gulf Coast east of Mobile Bay.

For decades he has been a part-time resident and full-time observer of the Gulf Coast from Mobile Bay eastward to Panama City on the Florida panhandle - a strip of seashore dubbed the "Redneck Riviera" by New York Times Editor Howell Raines (!!-JPS) in a 1978 article about the offseason antics of NFL quarterbacks Ken Stabler and Richard Todd.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:35 AM
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re: 64

I think there's a threshold. I find that anything from 18C (65F) to about 23C (74F) is comfortable enough to sleep in. As it goes much below or much above it starts get unpleasant. In the SE of England, we can keep our bedroom in that range most of the time with normal use of heating in winter, and windows open in summer. It's too hot now, though, for that to work.

According to the BBC, the current humidity where we are is about 50%.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:44 AM
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The climate in northern Utah is fantastic. It's been hot and humid (for here) lately, but there's so much sunshine! And in winter, when it snows, the snow goes away when the sun comes out! Hurray powder snow!


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:46 AM
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It's currently 68 degrees regular.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:49 AM
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I'd better go get a hot chocolate.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:49 AM
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I dunno, a red spotted handkerchief bindle and a stoneware jug would be... I guess they would be hipster.

The actual slung-under-the-boxcars hobos I saw, midnights, in the 90s, had stoneware jugs.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:57 AM
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68: Word. A lot of people here have never lived anywhere else and don't appreciate it.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 11:59 AM
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You've gotta keep in mind that NYC is south of Rome. Europe is just a dark dark place in the winter.

I guess we're just used to it. When I think "dark in winter", I'm thinking of Iceland or Norway. Arctic Circle, basically.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:07 PM
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I dunno, a red spotted handkerchief bindle

Left shoulder or right shoulder, big boy?


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:10 PM
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68, 72: my only issue with the climate in Colorado was the huge snowstorms every year in late spring. Other than that, the weather was exceptionally good year-round. Sure, it got pretty cold for a week or two each winter, but that was a small price to pay to have seasons (suck it, San Diego). Anyway, does Utah have those late-season storms -- it must, right? -- because staying up all night and banging snow out of the poor trees that had foolishly leafed out early in May really sucked.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:15 PM
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Why not let evolution lead to smarter trees?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:17 PM
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76: you'll have to ask the Lorax, Moby. He speaks for the trees.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:18 PM
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Why not let evolution lead to smarter trees?

Be careful what you wish for.


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:22 PM
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The last old-Florida family I know there still doesn't have air conditioning. They never cut down the sparse piney woods, so it's always shaded. Also, the house is very nearly a windscoop in all directions.

Hurricane-resistant, too. And none of their neighbors have copied them, not in decades.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:25 PM
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It feels a bit ridiculous complaining about English summer heat

I will complain, loudly. This humidity is more miserable than all of the time spent at my parents in California in 40 C plus weather without air conditioning. (I suspect I would not do well in New York.)


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:26 PM
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My grandmother was a Key West native (born, 1919). Her and her family made it sound like a deserted isle when she was growing up -- they've never really adjusted to what Florida has become since air conditioning.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:28 PM
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A lot of people here have never lived anywhere else and don't appreciate it. cutely ask me if I've seen snow before.


Posted by: Cala | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 12:33 PM
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81: My grandmother was a Key West native (born, 1919). Her and her family made it sound like a deserted isle when she was growing up

Hmm, well yes, it was only connected by rail in 1912 (which became a highway in 1938), but compared to other cities in Florida it was fairly well-populated. Population of 18,000 in 1900 and biggest "city" in Florida compared to ~25,000 population today. But for Florida overall and south Florida in particular it is very true. Miami was 2,000 in 1900 and only 29,000 in 1920 (over 100K by 1930).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:40 PM
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83: Could well have been nostalgia colouring their memories, though that's still not very populated compared to Cleveland, where she ended up!


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:47 PM
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I'm glad I'm getting out of here (Zurich) before it brushes 40C this weekend, since useful AC seems to be illegal. OTOH, it would be a great time to go jump in a lake (as the hotel staff super-politely and sincerely suggested to me).


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 1:59 PM
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84: Well, certainly a Key West connected only via rail to a very sparsely populated south Florida would be quite a different place despite the actual population. It was actually as much in the orbit of Havana (to which it is a fair bit closer than Miami). Pan Am airways founded there in the late '20s with an inaugural route between Key West and Havana.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 2:01 PM
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Well, certainly a Key West connected only via rail to a very sparsely populated south Florida would be quite a different place despite the actual population.

No idea of order, for one thing.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 2:09 PM
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The Bitches have been deposited on the river and are presumably tubing their way back to our house.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 2:26 PM
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The invention of air conditioning was a necessary precondition for the the migration of white northerners to the Sun Belt, the second most momentous demographic event of the latter half of the 20th century, the reverberations of which are still being felt in our politics.

Subject of a classic article (link to a google search that may or may not help you find a copy of the article).


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 3:16 PM
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86: Yeah, that branch of the family is Anglo-Irish via the Bahamas, I believe. (Or maybe some other island. My memory is apparently as hazy as her's was.) Lots of tales of uninhabited keys, lobster bakes, wreckers and lighthouse keepers.*

*Great-great-grandfather was one such. Oh, romantic life, that ends with lead poisoning via water barrel.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 3:27 PM
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Missed the 33 degree heat in London; had the 30 degree heat in Hamburg. This is the second year running I went to Germany and got a deep tan. That said, the city stank.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 4:52 PM
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OTOH, it would be a great time to go jump in a lake (as the hotel staff super-politely and sincerely suggested to me).

No matter how hot it gets here, if you jump in the river, you come up cold. If you do it in the late evening, you can forget the whole hot day.


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:15 PM
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Megan, have you done any camping up in the Klamath Mountains? The Smith River is fantastic, a great river for swimming holes.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 5:26 PM
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Regarding crappy east coast weather, I wish it would stop raining. It hasn't stopped since I moved into my new place, and the front door has been sticking since day one. But I don't know how much of the sticking is from humidity vs. sucky doorness, so I'm reluctant to plane* the door bottom until I know what it looks like not-waterlogged.

*Is that the right word? Really I mean asking my dad to teach me how one goes about fixing a door that sticks at the bottom.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 07-24-13 7:31 PM
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I live right next to a river, but we have had so much rain that I haven't been able to get in it much. Very sad.


Posted by: will | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 5:24 AM
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92: You live near the Lethe river?


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 6:13 AM
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Regarding crappy east coast weather, I wish it would stop raining.

This has been a bizarrely rainy summer down here. Usually we're into drought-driven water restrictions by this point in the summer so I guess I shouldn't complain, but they're going to have to change the state flower to a mushroom if this keeps up.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 6:20 AM
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I've had trouble keeping a dry pair of shoes, but today was just beautiful so far. I walked to work in the sun without it being warm enough to sweat.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 6:27 AM
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Our average precip for July is 1.09 inches. Thus far this month we've had .039. In May we got .09 of our average 1.95 inches.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 6:57 AM
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I can't bring myself to do anything at work right now and it's too hot to step outside. So here's a mediocre translation of the song I'm humming to myself:

On hot summer nights
Nothing else going on
Perhaps a star winks out
Through the open window
Perhaps a cricket is heard far away
But even the clock does not tick
On hot summer nights
Nothing else going on

Beneath the village berry tree
We sit and chat
Read a book with the scent of old pages
Close our eyes and keep silent
Nothing else going on
On hot summer nights
Beneath the village berry tree
We sit and chat


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 7:02 AM
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What I remember changing in Florida in the 1970s, as the pre-air people got outnumbered, was the old schedule -- work in the early mornings and the long evenings, but nap or laze in the day. Unless one was on the water. But when I was a kid, there were a lot more fish. Also, people still went outdoors when I was a kid. Going back as a grownup, and walking the old route down to the beach, we only met Caribbean cooks on bicycles -- "You all aren't from around here, are you? You keep your hats on!"

Key West might have been its quietest at the last turn of the century, since the transcontinental railways had finally killed off the coastal steam lines and land links hadn't been made yet. IIRC, it was an important stop for East-West loops as well as a link into the rest of the Caribbean.



Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 10:43 AM
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64: That's only six degrees above what we keep our AC at, though the AC does cut the humidity nice. Also, I sneak it lower than 78 when my wife isn't looking.

Yes, AC correctly proportioned for the space should get you down below the 50% humidity on days when it runs for a sufficient period of time. A relatively easy set of numbers to remember is 80°F at 50% humidity is 60°F dewpoint. Which is about the top end of most people's comfort range (probably a couple of degrees cooler indoors if no significant air flow).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 7:48 PM
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I've been prepping the spare room to paint. It turns out it is much hotter near the top of a 15 foot ceiling. Also, that I have to break the "Don't Stand On This" rule about the second from the top step.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07-25-13 8:03 PM
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I'm in west Wales, and it's lovely, mid twenties, and so much fresher than the sweaty hell hole I'd been in for the previous couple of weeks. *smug*


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 07-28-13 1:15 PM
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