I mean, whatever, doesn't have to be the 25th, doesn't have to be at our house (it might have to be those things in order for us to attend). We definitely won't have any aquavit on hand if that does happen, so yeah, people would have to bring their own.
Also, if it does end up being here, there are lots of good bars nearby to which people could decamp if we got all boring.
Also, if it does end up being here, there are lots of good bars nearby to which people could decamp if we got all boring asleep.
The gun is good. The penis is evil. But you really can't display either in a bar.
Depends what kind of bar.
(I don't think there are any of those kinds of bars near our place.)
Hmm, usually Boston meetings are right before I'm going out of town, but I'm not as far as I know. That is my kid's 7th birthday though.
Maybe there will be baseball that can be explained to ttaM. Infield fly rule?
(I'm watching the Boston-Detroit game and am feeling no comfort.)
Ugh. Remember when Boston was up by 4? Those were good times.
There were men on first and second, and Detroit hit a line drive to left field to score another run. I felt excited by this critical event.
Oops, wrong thread.
The Roberto Tigre persona is dying to come out, but what such a disaster last time.
You could be Tigre Bosques (Spanish for, roughly, Tiger Woods).
Bike thread! I had my first driver threaten me today. He was in a delivery van stopped behind a garbage truck on a single lane one way street, I passed them all, then the truck pulled over so he caught up, passed my with about a foot of clearance honking, rolled down his window and said I have to move over to let cars by. I said I don't have to when there's no bike lane and the street is narrow, he yelled back, "Then that's how you'll get run over," I yelled back that the law says I can use the whole lane, he gunned past me and drove away honking continuously.
Actually had two drivers yell today, the other was earlier, a lady who yelled that carrying my kids by bike wasn't safe. The second guy was after I had dropped off the kids.
Asshole bikers, never use pause/play symbols.
Sounds good to me. 25th and Chez Blume-Tweety-Zardoz and/or nearby bars.
Baseball? Pttph [or whatever the correct onomatopoeic rendition of spitting is]. Ptah!
There is a good cricket bar down the street, ttaM.
Anyhow, do people actually want to do this? It will be BYOwhateveritisyouwant because we don't really have the wherewithal to prepare that much, and our place isn't like giant, but we'll do it if people want to. And you'll get to meet Zardoz.
Oh wait, ttaM just said he wanted to do this. Focus, Sifu.
I'm happy to fit around whatever people's general plans are. Current plan sounds good, anyway.
Plus if I meet Zardoz I get to demonstrate my l33t 'a mere few weeks further down the line' level of baby-understanding.
This works for me. Eager to meet Zardoz. Will she be awake and floating about the house?
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19: she goes to bed at around 7:15, so you'll want to be on the early side to meet her/receive her gift of weapons.
I should bring my quadcopter home so we can practice flying during the meetup. No way that could go wrong.
Yes! I'm sure it would work out wonderfully.
Is there a sport (game?) where people fly quadcopters with small balloons and needles and the winner is the last one with an intact balloon? Because it seems obvious.
Tell her I'm checking Orbitz for plane tickets just in case you're saying both.
Hmm. I have to figure out how this interacts with my own child-related obligations. I could probably show up late, though I would be sad to miss Zardoz.
One of these days we're just going to have all Boston meetups be playdates. (What, you don't already drink on Saturday mornings?) All the childless commenters can bring their quad copters.
If this is scheduled for the time/place indicated in the post, who do I ask for directions? If I can make it by 7:30 or so I'll try to be there but I have to map out possible routes (car + train, I guess).
You can email me at mypseud (no spaces) at the large free email provider/privacy eroding behemoth/notably luxurious employer of record.
Thanks. I think my pseud email was closed for lack of use so I may take the privacy destroying step of using a real account.
In Obamamail, you're perpetually signed in to the NSA hangouts feature.
Announcing the new Obamamail Share Everything PLan!
37: I'll keep it to myself. Also I think I might already know your real name. We'll see!
When you finally get through and all signed up through the Exchange, the return prompt is: "Actually we knew all that".
"Also, your phone's GPS says that your morning run was only 4.8 miles, not 6."
If one wanted to go and watch Arsenal v. Dortmund tonight, is there a bar in Cambridge/Boston that might be showing it?
43: yeah, there are a few that definitely will, and a fair number that probably will. Precinct in Somerville certainly will, as will Phoenix Landing in Central Square in Cambridge, and Hit Wicket in Cambridge. All three of those are pretty sure bets and in easy walking distance of you. But there might also be something closer, since EPL is now on regular cable channels over here.
I'm at a hotel near Lechmere. Cool, looks to be about a 30 minute walk to the Phoenix Landing. Ta!
If you're fond of ice cream at all, Toscanini's in Central Square is the best I've ever had.
Christina's in Inman is also good. Herrell's in Harvard closed, but JP Licks opened a store. You can do a decent ice cream crawl through the city.
Feel free to bring ice cream to the meetup.
Also, feel free to bring whatever else you want because we aren't necessarily going to have much or anything on hand. (You know, if everybody, like, forgets, there's a liquor store around the corner. But bring things! Not just aquavit!)
We can order pizza or something when people get hungry. Or anything, actually. We have an incredible number of takeout options.
How late will you be there? We decided not to hold the seventh birthday party at your place so I can't come until kids are in bed.
I don't know that we have a set time but I would say that Blume and I can usually make it until at least 10 before passing out on our feet and I assume that if other people want to keep upmeeting after we've fallen insensate against a bookcase or whatever they'll head someplace near our apartment.
I'll be there, on the earlier side, having ducked out of evening-time duties.
I'm getting envious. Whither the Fresh Salt meetups of yesteryear?
Whither? That can't be right. Whence, probably. Or just where are, if I would get off my goddamn high horse and write like a human being.
That's okay. I just noticed that comment 51 is a fifty-seven word sentence with internal punctuation. Take a breath, Sifu!
Looking at the drive and my recent tendency to fall asleep early on Fridays after not sleeping enough during the week, I'm thinking I might have to wait until there's a weekend meetup.
I will be there on the earlier side as well, drinkables in tow.
57: In a general, it exists sort of way? Anyway, I will probably get coffee after work and decide based on traffic more than anything else.
59: yah, and apparently it is reasonably efficient, I heAr second-hand.
I would no be opposed to a bus or train if the schedule were right.
Having looked up prices, I am now opposed to the train.
I don't really care for Toscanini's ice cream. It might be the most expensive I've ever had. urple is with me on this. (Should I admit that?)
I will be in the Blume/Tweety area around 6:30 and can come over then, but I don't want to be the only one there. I have to leave early-ish, because I have to work on Saturday.
I can't bring booze in to my job, so I will have to pick up whatever there. Let me know what you need.
62: A conservative Neutral Evil Reactionary Theocrat is just a liberal Lawful Good Progressive Democratic Socialist who's been mugged looked up the train prices.
I will be getting there at about 6:30 as well.
I don't really care for Toscanini's ice cream.
This is the first time I've ever heard/read anyone make this assertion.
I'm also sad to hear they've gotten expensive. Back in my day, they were very reasonable (by snooty Boston ice cream parlor standards.)
66: I like it okay, and it's very good in the frappes at b. good, but I prefer j.p. licks. I liked Herrell's, but they closed. Herrell's used to make a delicious ginger ice cream.
I liked Herrell's, but they closed. Herrell's used to make a delicious ginger ice cream.
They probably still do at their Northampton location.
69: I did not know about the Northampton location. It was not a consistently available flavor at the Cambridge location, and I don't remember seeing it in Allston.
Isn't Boston like 4° most of the year? Do these ice cream shops stay open all year long?
Some do. Some don't. (Roadside stands usually do, such as Kimball's). Me, I always though cooler weather was better for ice cream as ice cream cones are less melty then.
71: Yes, they do. People here really like ice cream. Several years ago I heard a statistic that said that Massachusetts had the highest per capita consumption of I e cream in the country.
Somebody must have investigated the seemingly inverse relationship between the number of ice cream-appropriate weather days a year and the quality of a location's ice cream. Southern California, for instance, has terrible ice cream.
Scandinavians are really into ice cream, stalls selling it are everywhere. Sweetened fat is a really good energy source in winter.
On the veldt nobody needed ice cream because it was too warm.
I was more thinking it had something to do with the historic availability of ice.
Russians are also big on ice cream, I'm told - regardless of the season.
I trust there will be adequate liveblogging.
Italy has great ice cream and it's got tons of warm days. Also espresso and melon granita. I have very fond memories of a an ice cream stand called 'Bates' Farm' in the town I lived for a couple years as a little kid outside Boston. Googling tells me it is now a branch of something called Kimballs. Bedford Farms wasn't quite as good but it wasn't bad.
Oh hey catching up to this thread I was at the match mentioned in 43! And I have the cheapie match scarf to prove it.
Catching up, J.P. Licks was my idea of a good ice cream time in Cambridge/Somerville long ago. But one of my best friends just loved Brigham's, which, Obamapedia tells me, no longer operates parlors. Ice cream parlors, at least.
Bridgeman's was the fancy place to get ice cream here during my childhood. They don't have any franchises right in town anymore, sadly. Baskin-Robbins of yore was pretty good too, though certainly not as classy as Bridgeman's. Now we have Izzy's, Sebastian Joe's and several other small parlours. Sonny's/Crema is probably the most hard core -- they mix it in like, 4 gallon batches or something. Don't know how they don't go broke. Their cafe has an awesome little courtyard that is just magical in the right light.
http://happyweeble.blogspot.com/DSC03102.JPG
85: They're a money-laundering operation.
All the best money launderers have magical courtyards. Helps the money dry faster.
I closed the blinds in my office because the sun was blinding me!!
Brigham's sucks. They're not custard-based, just cream and sugar. There's still an Emack and Bolio's in Porter square but they seem to have limited hours, I've never seen them open. Steve's used to be somewhere around here (Waltham?) but I don't know if they're still around- they pioneered the Smush-In.
88- Premature as usual.
Also if I do head over later (maybe between 8-9?) I don't know the exact place, send me an email. I could just stand outside Hobo's and yell really loudly since I know it's in the area.
There's an Emack & Bolio's in Charlestown that has regular hours. Still pretty good.
Blume and I are both extremely sleepy today, so if we nod off during the meetup just prop us up in a corner with maybe a funny hat on.
just cream and sugar
Just?! Fie for denigrating cream and sugar. Fie!
(Brigham's mocha chip is still a favorite for me.)
THE BLOGGING IS NOT LIVE ENOUGH FOR ME
Liveblogging: I am currently in my hotel and about to leave soon to head to Chez Zardoz-Blume-Tweety.
I am also very tired [jet lag, ftw] but will hopefully perk up.
Heading over from the office in a bit. I'm bringing some homebrew (rye mild), and now I'm tempted to swing by Christina's as well.
Google maps tells me if I leave now I'll get there around 8. Will people be awake?
99 is a semi-serious question. How late do people think this will run?
I'm really sleepy too. (I was trying to figure out when the last day was when I wasn't either working or traveling on planes and/or trains for several hours. I think about 20 days ago?)
I expect I could be persuaded to adjourn to a pub if/when Tweety and Blume decide they've had enough.
Given that this seems to be a meetup at which someone is likely to fall asleep, does anyone have a Sharpie? A camera? Access to the flickr pool?
Driving prevents liveblogging, but I'm at least going to leave with the intent of making it there.
Left hotel, guess I'll be about 10 or 15 minutes.
Back from the beer store! We have decided this will be unclogs first shoeless meet up. Super crazy!
Make memories happen. This is the time. This is the night. Go for it -- there is no tomorrow.
Tweety -- DO YOU HAVE EVERYONE'S ENTRANCE MUSIC ON CUE????
You have 10 minutes to identify the musical selections for each identified attendee, Halford.
Entrance music: "I know you will" by Logg.
Keep it up. This is quality liveblogging.
I will be there soon. Don't have anything with me. Can I pick something up in central square?
Running late---see you in about an hour.
No updates. Nathan is dead, people. We've lost him.
ttaM, Knecht and mcmc are here. There is aquavit.
Sorry everyone but I'm not even halfway yet and it's clear I'm too tired to drive the way I've been driving. I'll have to go up to Boston some other time and meet Ttam the next time he's in the states or if I'm in the UK or something.
Make memories happen. This is the time. This is the night. Go for it -- there is no tomorrow.
Halford's entrance music is "We Are Young," amirite?
Noooo hire a hobo to do the rest of the driving!
We are revealing off-blog secrets about the rest of you.
(um, I meant something more like "Alas, no fake accent!" I hope "boo" wasn't too harsh, although I guess this is a Boston crowd.)
Kreskin is here. Aquavit is delicious. Zardoz is bedtime.
I'm wearing a baby monitor on my hip like a boss.
Protip: Nobody make out in Zardoz's room. Tweety can hear you.
Yeah, one time we were visiting my grandmother and forgot we had left the monitor on in our bedroom and we got involved and when we saw her later she said she had turned off the receiver because she "heard us breathing."
This is the lamest liveblogging since Emerson and I went our for drinks with that guy who doesn't comment here anymore.
mcmc just tried flying the quadcopter. Knecht left a whole lot of Aquavit here.
134: Your grandma only listened to you having sex for long enough to assure herself you weren't doing erotic asphixiation.
essear is here! I said "oh, have you had Aquavit?" and he said "oh, well, only in Denmark." Okay!
136 -- the silence just means that Ttam has started kicking hombres in the face.
Zardoz rejoined the party, hopefully not for long.
Venn Pies would be a good name for a...
ttaM's turn to put Zardoz to bed. How well do those skills transfer?
Boo is an entirely appropriate respnse. But I just don't have the energy for a lot of high density driving today.
Venn ze moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie zat is liebe.
Done with bedtime here. Too late to come?
I need to figure out some beverage to bring. I have a mostly full bottle of cheap Spanish absinthe but I'm not allowed to give the whole thing away.
Eh, now there are flurries so I don't want to bike there.
There is plenty of booze. Fill up on aquavit.
As long as they are not flurries of furries I think you're safe.
Your meetup is failing on the quadcopter front. http://m.wlwt.com/news/remote-controlled-skeleton-causing-big-scares/-/17405428/22640788/-/5syjeaz/-/index.html
OT: This is getting ridiculous. I may not have attended a fancy conservatory since early childhood but at least I know who Merle goddamned Haggard is.
I could have made up a story about flurries?
People have dispersed. What a lovely bunch of folks! Excluding, obviously, SP and fake accent.
Top hosting from Sifu and Blume. Excellent company from all concerned, and thanks to mcmc for the lift back to my hotel!
Great to meet ttaM and see all the localites again. And A++ to Zardoz and the aquavit. Looking forward to the next one!
I don't really care for Toscanini's ice cream.
What is this I don't even.
Their burnt sugar ice cream is just...frozen liquid Jesus.
Further evidence for the Sifu ice-cream hypothesis: akutaq. (I've never had it but I've heard it's good.)
Qanik is snow in the air; aput is snow on the ground; akutaq is snow on the Food Channel.
In Alaska, the word for "lame" translates literally as "one who takes all the roots from the mouse."
Their burnt sugar ice cream is just...frozen liquid Jesus.
I know we've visited this topic before, but did you ever get to have Christina's burnt sugar ice cream? I think it's better. So like, I dunno, frozen liquid all-of-the-trinity?
It was good to see everyone. And then I slept for eleven hours and feel, like, thirty percent more human now.
Does "burnt sugar" just mean caramel?
Burnt sugar was good, but the flavor that sticks with me was malted vanilla. I'm not a big vanilla fan generally -- I want a stronger flavor -- but the malt made it perfect. And nocciola of course, but I can't swear that Toscanini's was the best avatar of that I've ever had. Oh, and molasses ginger cookie.
This is going to sound stupid, but I was also really fond of their serving sizes (which may have changed since I was there last, literally decades ago). They had a 'tiny' cone which was one very controlled scoop, which was great if you wanted some ice cream but weren't actually starving. I really dislike overly generous servings when that's not what I want. (See also giant mixed drinks. If I'm ordering liquor, I want a couple of ounces, not a fishbowl. If I want to get drunk, I'll order more drinks.)
I didn't know one could get cloudberries in Alaska!
I refuse to believe that any American style ice cream can be as good as the salted crack ice cream at Ample Hills near me.
My favorite Christina's flavor is fresh mint, but burnt sugar is also awesome. They also have a very reasonaby sized (if not terribly reasonably priced) smallest size. I just realized we never ate the (Christina's, I think?) ice cream Nathan brought yesterday, which means it is in my freezer RIGHT NOW.
179: If you keep your berries in the cloud, you can get them anywhere, even Alaska.
If I'm ordering liquor, I want a couple of ounces, not a fishbowl
"You can actually leave without finishing it," I said once. The whole family stared at me in horror. And then I tipped $5.
You may be able to throw away half an ice cream cone because you're not hungry. I'm not -- within reach of anything consumable, I am basically Cookie Monster.
And of course the same with liquor. Which also gets warm if you're sipping a giant drink slowly.
within reach of anything consumable, I am basically Cookie Monster.
My sister. Obviously you were raised in the hinterlands by wolves, like me.
Making your extraordinarily mannerly and helpful children completely inexplicable.
The size of liquor drinks would surely be an interesting subject for game-theoretic economic research.
"Interestingly, the degree to which actual behavior corresponded to that predicted by the rational choice model was observed to degrade over the course of the evening."
"But decision-making processes best explained by evolutionary psychology became increasingly salient. At the very end of the evening, however, subject's behavior was most simply described by Newtonian physics."
178 The worst are those huge martinis, which are basically slightly diluted gin. I once was in a place which served their martinis in 8oz glasses.
Does oenology reverse recapitulate ontology?
And then I slept for eleven hours
I ended up falling asleep at 11 in a chair with the tv and lights on and my contact lenses still in and didn't wake up enough to go take out my contacts, turn off the lights, and go to bed until after 5.
I'm reading 194 in that fake sore throat voice you use with your boss when you call in sick.
So I'm in what the maps tell me is Boston's shopping district looking to find something for the baby. But I seem to be missing something, as the shopping is ... not good. Checking in case I've made a wrong turn, but is it basically half a dozen big shoe shops, a Walgreens and lots of coffee/food places?
Yeah, I used to go to NYC to shop. Sorry.
Perhaps baby needs a new pair of shoes?
Are you downtown, or in the Back Bay? I don't know where one would look for baby things, but aside from downtown there's the shopping strip along Newbury St and then what's basically a generic, boring shopping mall at the Prudential Center just like what you'd find anywhere in suburban America. I've never encountered problems finding the things I need to buy in Boston, but I'm not much of a shopper.
The rocks/crystals/fossils store I used to be paid to lie to people in was on Newbury St. I wonder if it's still there... Google says the Newbury St. store is gone, but it's still in Faneuil Hall. If baby needs a malachite chess set, or a crystal ball, Geoclassics is the place.
At least I know I'm not wandering aimlessly while missing the 'real' shopping district.
When I went to college in Boston, people warned me about accidentally wandering into "The Combat Zone" -- the bad neighborhood with the hookers and porn and scary people. Sometime late in my first year, I went to Chinatown for dinner, and found out that The Combat Zone was a half block with maybe two porn shops and a strip club on one side of the street. Boston's kind of a scale model of a big city.
195: I actually do have that type of sore throat you get when you breathe through your mouth too much while asleep.
Apropos of nothing, I'm reading Telegraph Avenue by Michael Chabon and thought that this sentence needed to be shared:
"Ladies," said Moby with the most terrible suavity imaginable.
Also, I continue to hate living in a once-but-no-longer-a-real city that is plausibly-but-not-really close to real cities. I bet the shopping is better in Boston.
207: Whereas fully-imaginary cities can be quite fun in their own way.
I assume Yalies' way of saying "I went to school in Boston" is to say "I hate living in a no-longer-a-real city that is plausibly-but-not-really close to Boston".
"Ladies," said Moby with the most terrible suavity imaginable.
Moby is in this place—how suave is this place.
Making your extraordinarily mannerly and helpful children completely inexplicable.
I'm certain they'll grow out of it.
209: As discussed in previous threads long ago, I think they say "in Connecticut", which is a state full of plausibly-but-not-really cities.
I've probably mentioned this before but a prospective grad student introduced himself to me (via email) as attending a small liberal arts school in New Jersey that I might not have heard of.
Yes, from his school account.
He was a truly odd egg.
Years of watching college basketball led me to believe that the University of Connecticut was in a town called Storrs, but it turns out there's just a campus there, though apparently they're now building a downtown modeled after the mall-builder's conception of walkable urban space.
I just met someone at work who went to Richard Stockton which is a place I am pretty sure I had never heard of.
Uh, Jazz- I blew that joke by pretending to be ignorant of a similar sounding name while actually being ignorant of which similar sounding name I meant (John Starks)
I am capable of installing a new door lock and now they make a kind you can re-key yourself. All doors on the same key, hooray.
ttaM should go to Newbury St. probably. He might be in downtown crossing which is... not the optimal choice.
Also, the combat zone used to be a lot bigger. Chinatown ate it.
Also, the combat zone used to be a lot bigger. Chinatown ate it.
Portentous. America, beware.
ttaM, a possible Boston-themed gift for a child: something related to Make way for ducklings. The book, and related items, ought to be readily available.
216: It was Princeton, actually, which was what made it funny.
Yeah, I started around Downtown Crossing. Walked around that district (genuinely better shopping in Oxford which is what, 10% of the size of Boston?) then down to the 'market' at Quincy/Faneuil. I saw some of the 'ducklings' stuff at the airport a few minutes ago. I didn't make Newbury St. I ended up buying him a nice but not Boston themed thing from Macy's of all places.
225: You would have thought he would made that more explicit.
What constitutes "good" "shopping"? What makes a "shopping district" distinguishable from a mall? Aside from the stores selling used things, and the stores selling incredibly expensive things.
227:It wasn't Ted Cruz, man.
Downtown Crossing is sort of a shitty holdover that might have been a good place to shop in the 40s. Newbury/Boylston is much better. Harvard Square is better, really.
Quincy Market is a tourist trap, fundamentally, and/or a college kid crappy nightclub trap.
Although I would have thought it would have at least some stores with Boston-themed baby stuff.
That's why God gave us airport stores.
When my parents were visiting, we were walking around downtown and my mom was cold and decided to buy some kind of sweatshirt or at least something warm and Boston-themed in Quincy Market. She wasn't able to find anything there that wasn't hideous.
I thought you said she wanted something Boston-themed?
In a couple of weeks I think I'll have an opportunity to shop at the Seminary Co-op. I hope its new location hasn't spoiled all the fun.
I've been reassured that the new location is appropriately warren-like.
Oh good. That's about the only kind of shopping I ever really look forward to.
Ironically tonight I am hanging out in your neighborhood.
I've still never been to Boston in my life. I think it's the biggest city in the US I've never been to.
Thanks. I don't travel much these days.
242: So how's Boston at Christmas?
I think LA is the biggest US city I've never been to. What jeopardy question are we answering?
I was just reflecting. I was thinking by metro area. If you count municipal boundaries, there are other cities I've never been to much bigger than Boston.
Based on this list, Jacksonville is the biggest US city I've never been to. Using metropolitan areas (which is probably more reasonable), it's Detroit.
Going by metro area, for me, it's Dallas.
Which is the biggest city you've never done?
Yeah, ttaM, if you're ever back, Copley Place and the Prudential are much better. Copley Place is super-luxury stuff like Nieman Marcus, and the Prudential is more middle to upper middle class. Newbury Street is good for walking and window shopping.
Downtown Crossing is probably getting a bit better. Filene's Basement was a great place to get stuff that was discounted from other stores. Until this past spring there was a great button shop called Windsor Button. It's a good place to go for expensive jewelry like diamonds. The Jewelers Building has 125 jewelers under one roof.
I think I've been in the Dallas airport once, but that's all. And I've never been to Miami.
Teo is probably the only person who could say that Jacksonville is the largest city they've never been to by square mileage, too.
And the Boston Athenaeum, though nothing compared to anything in Oxford, is a nice little library. The first floor is open to the public.
Fucking Texas. If not for Dallas and Houston (I've been to DFW once but airports totally don't count) I could get all the way to Detroit.
253: Your link is broken, but surely that's true for everyone who hasn't been to Jacksonville.
Damn you, front page poster with your super-editing powers!
Oh, I see. I don't think Alaska cities are really comparable to others in this respect because the whole system of local government organization is so different here. Also, I've never been to Sitka.
256: People who haven't been to Jacksonville are notoriously bad at writing HTML.
The smallest town I've been to is Gross, Nebraska. I had a hamburger.
The Vatican must set some kind of record for largest ratio of visitors to actual residents of any city.
Jacksonville annexed the entirety of Duval county, and for a period was the largest city in the world. Or so I was told.
Of course, calling it a city is kind of a joke.
And I've only been to the ferry terminals in Juneau and Wrangell, which is kind of equivalent to only having been to the airport.
Dayton is the most pointless city I've been to.
Moby is clearly immune to the charms of Graeter's ice cream.
Dayton has the Air Force museum too.
Graeter's was a Cincinnati thing. The Air Force museum would be great, but they don't let you see the alien corpses.
Speaking of ice cream, I had some very good blueberry ice cream (not akutaq) today. More evidence for the Sifu Hypothesis.
Ah, I had only been to the one in Dayton. For pointlessness I guess I'll nominate Terre Haute.
There were two in Columbus when I was there last. The Cincinnati bastards kept those but took away their delicious spaghetti-chili.
Spaghetti in chili is an abomination.
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Dude, Rob the Masshole. Dude.
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(I don't usually watch baseball, but I'm in a hotel room with a big TV so I decided to this time.)
275: Sure, but spaghetti topped with Cincinnati-style chili topped with about four pounds of shredded cheese is great.
Largest city I've never been to is Houston. Largest metro area I've never been to is Dallas. I've been to both of the airports associated with those cities and drove around Dallas' suburbs back in February.
I think driving around the suburbs counts as going to the metro area.
I don't. I never left the freeway. I've spent longer in the airports..
By contrast, I've never spent a full day in Chicago, but I've had layovers on train rides where I walked around, visited the Art Institute, etc.
I kind of feel like airports count too, to be honest.
In fact, I think I've only been to the airport in Atlanta, so if airports are excluded I guess that's the biggest metro I've never been to.
I wonder how many states have no cities/metro areas in the top 100 (or some other arbitrary rank number) on those lists. Connecticut's cities all dropped off post-1950s but there may be a metro area still in the metro list. I don't think the cities actually got much smaller - they just fell behind.
If airports count, it's San Antonio and Miami for me. Although to be honest, it's entirely possible I've been to the San Antonio airport and don't remember it. I've had a number of flights connect through Texas, most at DFW.
I AM big. It's the top 100 rankings that got small.
That's a hell of a way for a game to end.
Isn't Connecticut basically the New York metro area? Like nearly ask of it.
Hartford is 40 on the metro area list but it looks like they're pretending that the New London area also should be in the same statistical area, probably to make the state feel better about itself.
Anchorage is 124 on the list, which is hardly a surprise.
Eh, despite my efforts to bash CT more than usual, the metro areas on the list all look legitimately top 100, some boundary fudging notwithstanding. The urbanized parts of the state really do seem to consist of various amalgams of towns and exurbs, though.
And yet Anchorage is a top 100 city.
That was some bull-fucking-shit. And I've never been to Virginia Beach. After that, it's North Port, FL.
And yet Anchorage is a top 100 city.
That's just because Western cities are artificially boosted in that list by their larger land areas.
And then we're out of the top 100. It turns out I'm less well-traveled in Florida than I might have guessed.
Or I guess it's more that Eastern cities are artificially depressed by their smaller areas surrounded by suburbs.
A quick scan of the city list gets me this list of non-top 100 states (population is the 2012 estimate because that was the closer column on copy and paste from Wikipedia):
118 Little Rock Arkansas 196,537
168 Bridgeport Connecticut 146,425
not listed: Delaware
104 Des Moines Iowa 206,688
not listed: Maine
135 Jackson Mississippi 175,437
258 Billings Montana 106,954
241 Manchester New Hampshire 110,209
134 Providence Rhode Island 178,432
190 Columbia South Carolina 131,686
149 Sioux Falls South Dakota 159,908
124 Salt Lake City Utah 189,314
not listed: Vermont
not listed: West Virginia
not listed: Wyoming
305 is correct. I think all Pennsylvania cities except Philadelphia have less than half as many people in the city limits as they did in 1940. But most of them have more people in their metro areas.
Detroit is absolutely filled with rich white people who pay lots of property taxes and send their children to top-notch schools, if you define "Detroit" as "the area within 15 miles of Detroit".
Same answer for city and metro area: Louisville. KY was the 50th state I visited.
