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If she wants the mood music in stereo, you're just out of luck.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 8:38 PM
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Keller was a fascinating person. Here's two sentences you wouldn't generally expect to see together:

A member of the Socialist Party of America and the Industrial Workers of the World, she campaigned for women's suffrage, labor rights, socialism, and other radical left causes. She was inducted into the Alabama Women's Hall of Fame in 1971.

I once read an article somewhere discussing her sexuality. IIRC she never actually had sex with anyone, but not because she didn't want to. I don't remember if the article specifically discussed handjobs.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 8:45 PM
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Wait, does this mean you've changed your stance on handjobs?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:06 PM
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2: I think my team has tried to claim her, but I don't recall any compelling evidence in that direction.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:29 PM
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Did they own a dog when she was a teenager?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:36 PM
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5 -> OP, not 4.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:37 PM
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4: She seems to have had a series of live-in female "companions," so that might be the origin of the idea, but of course she would have needed a lot of help anyway and I don't know of any actual evidence for anything more.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:41 PM
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7: I really don't think there is evidence, though I half-recall there might have been more for Sullivan. And she's much too old for people to be able to say "women's college, Q.E.D." and have that be in any way plausible.

Actually, now I'm sort of curious where the line between NMM and imagining historical handjobs gets drawn.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:50 PM
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I think it depends what else you do while you're imagining.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:51 PM
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2: I thought I had learned something like that here, and yep Ace-K in 2010: Well, with the socialist Helen Keller, an acolyte of Eugene Debs on the Alabama state quarter, anything is possible.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 9:52 PM
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IIRC she never actually had sex with anyone, but not because she didn't want to.

Well, this thread started out promisingly enough, with ogged posting possibly one of the most tasteless statements ever to appear at this blog, and moby entering into the spirit of things with a tasteless comment of his own (a comment that made me laugh out loud, I'll admit). But 2 is really sort of depressing. Nice work, teo!

(Agree that Keller was a fascinating person. People tend to see her as a Laura Ingalls Wilder-type of plucky American heroine, but politically, she was a real lefty, if not a radical).


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 10:01 PM
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But 2 is really sort of depressing. Nice work, teo!

I do my best. And yeah, the part you quoted is pretty depressing. I had thought the article I was remembering was in the New Yorker, but I just searched their site and didn't find it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 10:08 PM
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Was it this? "Helen Keller's Secret Love Life". The author of the piece had written a novel, Helen Keller In Love but the article describes Keller's thwarted love life which inspired the novel.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 10:15 PM
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13: It was much earlier than that specific post, but the gist of it was basically the same.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-28-14 10:22 PM
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I was looking for the comment in the archives where I told the story of the friend who, while visiting the Anne Frank House in the midst of a year-long drought, averred that "Anne Frank was really hot". As I was doing so, I found that the question "Anne Frank - hot or not?" has been extensively litigated on the internet*. The wisdom of the NMM rule has rarely been so clearly illustrated.

*Also: "Was she bi?"


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:51 AM
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At crossfit, I was listening to the lyric "hush girl, shut your lips. Do the Helen Keller, and talk with your hips." Which the singer repeats many times for us to marvel at his creative offensiveness. I concluded it was mostly incredibly stupid, and not exactly offensive.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:23 AM
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she was a real lefty

When it came to handjobs, anyhow.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:06 AM
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1) The linked piece really is remarkable. It made me think that surely she'd been accused of being a fake. And yes; here's a New Yorker piece about that.

2) one of the most tasteless statements ever to appear at this blog

Benign violation, JPJ, benign violation. Wasn't there a recent thread about the pointlessness of handjobs?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:02 AM
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When a men is tired of handjobs, he is tired of life.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:30 AM
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When ms billl was very young, she wrote to Helen Keller to wish her a happy birthday. Keller's secretary wrote a thank-you note back (ms bill still has it) saying that Miss Keller was unable to respond personally. She died the next year. Family hero!


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:42 AM
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It's good that her family is proud of her for killing Helen Keller, but stretching it out so long seems cruel.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:52 AM
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I was looking for the comment in the archives where I told the story of the friend who, while visiting the Anne Frank House in the midst of a year-long drought, averred that "Anne Frank was really hot". As I was doing so, I found that the question "Anne Frank - hot or not?" has been extensively litigated on the internet*. The wisdom of the NMM rule has rarely been so clearly illustrated.

See also Philip Roth's The Ghost Diary.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:00 AM
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Sorry, "The Ghost Writer."


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:00 AM
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21: ms bill's brothers and sisters teased her for exactly that: "Your note killed Helen Keller." Great minds....


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:04 AM
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Had Helen Keller introduced the Shibu Inu to the US instead of the very similar Akita, it would have made for a nice thread merge. Lack of foresight, Keller.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 10:09 AM
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Shiba?


Posted by: Wan Wan | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 10:16 AM
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Yes, that's what I meant.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 10:55 AM
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She Bop?


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 12:25 PM
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This OP has a nice nostalgic whiff of Unfogged circa 2006. Oh sont les hand jobs* d'antan?

*I don't the french noun; the verb is "branler." Branlements d'antan?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 12:51 PM
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Ou


Posted by: RH | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 12:53 PM
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I blame Steve Jobs, the greatest world-historical genius since Napoleon.


Posted by: RH | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 12:53 PM
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29: One google later and I get a joke from Catch-22 I've only half-understood for the last 23 years.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 1:21 PM
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une branlette

there is an obscene joke in here somewhere about evelyn gl/ynn/ie's feet, but she's apparently a rather nice person so I won't bother.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:06 PM
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Glynnie?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:14 PM
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It's the Maoist spelling, sifu, please try to keep up.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:18 PM
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I bet it is.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:22 PM
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Anyone want a ride from this coast (the better one) most of the way to that coast (the worse one) some time in May, dates flexible? Also flexible: precise route, number of days on the road, etc.


Posted by: Den E. Crumb | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:23 PM
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I mean the revolution is going to take FOREVER at this rate.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:29 PM
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37: A modern day Trail of Tears.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:39 PM
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37: If anyone wants a ride from this coast to the west coast starting at the end of next week, contact your local transportation provider. I doubt I'll have room.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:41 PM
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It was an interesting choice to put 37 in the handjob thread.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:44 PM
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38 to 37?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:45 PM
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39: wrong direction, loser. But seriously, you should fly out and drive across with me. We can listen to hate radio and stroke out* somewhere in Kansas or Nebraska. It'll be great!

* Just don't, fruit pickers.


Posted by: Den E. Crumb | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:45 PM
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43 to 41!


Posted by: Den E. Crumb | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:46 PM
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I'm assuming the vogue for "Helen Keller" jokes, current in my Junior High Days in the mid-sixties had died out by the time anyone here had passed through that age, and that you've never heard one.

I couldn't repeat one to save my life, they always seemed so stupid that I wouldn't remember how they went.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:54 PM
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We can listen to hate radio and stroke out* somewhere in Kansas

Not a fruit-picker, just curious what that means.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:56 PM
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33–35: I saw her perform with Fred Fr/th at Steinford once and it was super cool. The end.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 4:56 PM
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Idp, I'm old enough. But not too old to know the expression 'low hanging fruit.'


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:02 PM
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45: They were still telling the same jokes in the 80s.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:19 PM
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I was born in 1980, and still heard Helen Keller jokes growing up.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:20 PM
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heard Helen Keller jokes

Ableist.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:28 PM
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"Helen Keller" jokes...that you've never heard one.

meet

I wouldn't remember how they went

meet

not too old to know the expression 'low hanging fruit.'


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:31 PM
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Heh. Speaking of non-sequiturs--anyone here lived in Vienna for an extended period of time, and have positive or negative things to say about the experience?


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:31 PM
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Hitler did. I don't think he liked it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:32 PM
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FUNNY YOU SHOULD ASK


Posted by: OPINIONATED THOMAS BERNHARD | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:33 PM
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"Low hanging fruit" I understand, what I don't understand is the intended meaning of "stroke out"


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:34 PM
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Hitler's here? Let's make him travel back in time and kill himself!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:35 PM
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57: Good news: we're 50% there.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:35 PM
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56: Me neither.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:36 PM
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56: have a rage induced aneurysm


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:36 PM
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56: Same thing as NMM.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 5:37 PM
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@ x.trapnel

While I have not lived in Vienna, I can nevertheless tell you that it is a very beautiful, pleasant city especially if you like opera. Also rather expensive to live in or even visit.


Posted by: Tiny Hermaphrodite, Esq. | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:01 PM
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If you stroke out from a branlette then no one is allowed to se branler afterwards while thinking of you. Whether or not they are still allowed to branle doigte or otherwise molest you has not been ruled on at the Mineshaft.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:04 PM
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I'm finally reading the erstwhile Dutch Cookie's book and I'm confused, because I thought it was nonfiction but there can't possibly be a real person named Lar/ry Der/ryber/ry, can there?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:09 PM
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OT: I have several thousand more pages of shit to review this weekend. If I have to look at another goddam Muy Thai fight card, my brain will explode.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:12 PM
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45: Every generation that has learned of Helen Keller has learned of Helen Keller jokes.

How did Helen Keller's parents punish her?
a) They rearranged the living room furniture.
b) They left the plunger in the toilet.

How did Helen Keller burn her ear?
Answering the iron.

Today, Helen Keller and her beloved cat Mittens pops up here and there.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:12 PM
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I've heard all those jokes as well, middle-high school early-mid 90s.
How did she burn her other ear?
They called back.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:14 PM
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I also have a ton of shit to review, multi-component grants that I'm so far behind on I don't even know how many pages yet, but completing the work will earn me an all expenses paid trip to spend a night and the whole next day in a hotel in suburban DC so totally worth it.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:16 PM
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Neither has she; corduroy; because she's a woman; so she can moan with the other. I don't know when they all got started, but I assume they've never gone away.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:18 PM
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An unfogged road trip sounds awesome, though I'm neither on a coast nor available in May.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:30 PM
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53: I live in Vienna, VA. It's nice. I am drunken staggering distance from a nice pub, and sober walking distance from a really nice movie theater and vietnamese restaurant that's one of the best in the DC area. Since we're on the topic of non sequiturs.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:40 PM
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I can't join the trip, but I'm happy to send a tape of chortling laughter to listen to as you drive east, watching things get progressively crappier, until ending up in the most depressing, child-rape friendly destination in America.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:49 PM
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Halford will be unable to join, of course, because he'll be on his own roadtrip across Siberia with me and alameida.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:51 PM
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70: All of May? Darn. I've got a wedding to attend in your area in May.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 6:51 PM
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74: No, no, I'll be here and up for anything local, and I'm willing to be pretty expansive about what counts as "local" as far as meeting up with fun blog people. Just no major road trip opportunities.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:02 PM
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fun blog people
might be disqualifying, but if you're not actually unavailable, I'll arrange once we get plane tickets settled.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:09 PM
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Honestly, I have no plans at all for May at this point. It's just our busy season at work and I can't take time off, but all nights and weekends are free, which is to say taken up by children most of the time.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:11 PM
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72, thank you. I assumed Den E. Crumb was a pseud change but didn't have it until "child-rape friendly destination."


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:17 PM
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Incidentally, is anyone interested in having another meetup in DC while Stranded in Lubbock is still here...?


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:18 PM
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64: that's his real name, yes. I was rather incredulous, but he insisted.


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:32 PM
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I have now made it to 2048 more than once, but it took me a long time to realize that going from 2048 to 4096 is like playing a second game and that's where that additional half-hour went.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:36 PM
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I still haven't past 512, but I figured out I can play on my phone.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:38 PM
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I'm guessing people think they're doing some sort of ironic above-it-all schtick with the Helen Keller jokes, but it's pretty irritating regardless. Ha ha ha, deafblind people exist! What a riot.


Posted by: E. Messily | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:39 PM
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64, 80: I couldn't resist looking up more, and I'm pleased to tell you that other people with that surname include Mary and Carrie, and that, most delightfully of all, there was once a Fairy.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:40 PM
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The strategy from that other thread - I think it was UPETGI's? - works pretty well. Build your numbers on one wall and hope you never get forced to move the tiles off that wall again.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:41 PM
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85 to 82.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:44 PM
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65: ahhh, เข่ายาวสะสม, the deadliest finishing move in all fighting. Death by a thousand bout records.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:48 PM
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but I figured out I can play on my phone

I really wish you hadn't told me that. I've managed to resist so far, but now I've gone and gotten the app. How the hell did that happen?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:52 PM
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Wait, isn't threes (the game the 2048 game is ripping off) explicitly an iPhone (or, I guess, presumably android) game? Of course you can play it on your phone.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:54 PM
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I couldn't resist looking up more, and I'm pleased to tell you that other people with that surname include Mary and Carrie, and that, most delightfully of all, there was once a Fairy.

They really ran with it! How pleasing.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:55 PM
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Well, I was 80% sure "stroking out" referred to having an apoplectic reaction to what you were hearing on the radio, but there was a small chance it wasn't.

Before sniggered out of use, "stroking" had a family of automotive meanings, usually referring to cruising with low r.p.m.s for the speed. The long gearing of sixties highway cars made that possible, and some even had overdrive, so the engine speed was quite low.

I think the derivation was that the older engines had long strokes for their bores, which gave them less top-end horsepower but more torque at lower speeds.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 7:56 PM
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83: I was going to reply that I thought of them as a form of adolescent transgression that people grow out of in middle school, but then I thought of the OP.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:09 PM
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I kind of wish all these conversations weren't happening in such a tasteless thread. The offensiveness of which I contributed to, I have to admit.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:10 PM
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83 is a good point, sorry.

Incidentally, is anyone interested in having another meetup in DC while Stranded in Lubbock is still here...?

I.F. and I might be in DC/College Park from (this) Thursday to Sunday, and it'd be neat to see Mineshaft folks for a drink, but we may be ridiculously overscheduled.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:18 PM
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And by "may be ridiculously overscheduled", I mean, "are very likely to have the entire visit booked in half-hour increments", so it's pretty unlikely we'd be able to attend. So folks certainly oughtn't make plans on my account.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:20 PM
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Before sniggered out of use, "stroking"

In case the sniggering ever lost steam before the job was done, Clarence Carter was on the scene.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:24 PM
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85: AWB's strategy. I had an addendum which is helpful for making the final push to 2048 (which is that on the second row you should be aiming to build up near the small tile on the top row, not the big tile).


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:24 PM
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It's ogged's fault. Get him.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:24 PM
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97: Ah, now that I've re-checked that thread, I see that I haven't quite followed that strategy with as much discipline as it requires. I've made it to 2048, but a bunch of times my high tile wall has not been in the optimal order. Also, for whatever reason I'm more comfortable building along the left side rather than the top.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:29 PM
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Clarence Carter's lyrics sound like he's talking about the lulav.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:42 PM
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Incidentally, is anyone interested in having another meetup in DC while Stranded in Lubbock is still here...?

Sure! We'd love to meet up again, as long as it's before May 7 or so, at which point we hit the road ourselves. I think the only weekend between now and then that's definitely not possible for us is 4/12-4/13.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 8:56 PM
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99: The AI (http://ov3y.github.io/2048-AI/) is much much better than I am, and it shows a lot more flexibility about letting the high tile leave the corner. So it's possible that your less disciplined approach is better.


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Today I've been playing the hard mathematician-designed version: http://alexfink.github.io/dive/


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 9:57 PM
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43: 39: wrong direction, loser.

I knew that, you fucking pedant.

But seriously, you should fly out and drive across with me. We can listen to hate radio and stroke out* somewhere in Kansas or Nebraska. It'll be great!

That actually sound somewhat interesting (I assume no wife/kids along?) And I have a Bay Area friend* who is after me to come out and do some backroad-driving in Nevada. So i could meet you in Reno...

*When I told him I was moving CA -> PA he responded, "You're not really leaving all of this for those scruffy little hills, are you?"


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 10:56 PM
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Forbidden imaginary like button to 100.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 10:57 PM
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Ooo, that's a lot harder. Only 626 on my first try.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 11:00 PM
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I think my team has tried to claim her, but I don't recall any compelling evidence in that direction.

Doesn't it sometimes seem like there's a category of "people who may or may not have been but we're just going to go ahead and claim them and what are you going to say about it?"?


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 11:12 PM
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"Anne Frank was really hot".

Uncharitably, there is a very beloved album on this theme.

I want to join the Den E. Crumb caravan. Maybe I can lose my job by then.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 11:24 PM
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Clinton was the first gay president. Or like fifth actually. Mumble mumble intercrural mumble.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 11:30 PM
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I guess it's not all that surprising that James Buchanan isn't considered a gay icon.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-29-14 11:32 PM
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79: I'm up for a meetup


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:11 AM
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79: Right. I think we'd discussed waiting for nicer weather, so yeah, soon. I'm not sure how to combine kid-friendly, accessible for those who can't get around well, and outdoors. Biergarten?


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:41 AM
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Biergarten?

Huzzah


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:07 AM
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Biergarten?

Plus cherry blossoms?


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:25 AM
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SiL, if you can, do the cherry blossoms on a weekday. Weekends are unpleasantly crowded. It is beautiful, but it will make you misanthropic.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:39 AM
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Fair enough...


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:52 AM
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How about somewhere around Georgetown Waterfront Park? It's outdoors and kid-friendly, but also close to bars and restaurants, and within (20-25 minutes) walking distance of the Metro.


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:22 AM
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Sounds good to me. If we're going for a daytime thing, our best bet's likely to be a Sunday. If we're going for something in the evening, we can be more flexible.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:31 AM
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110: I feel like I've seen three or four "You go girl, Gay James Buchanan!" articles in the last week or two, but presumably people still aren't getting excited about his policies or anything, just letters he wrote about courting dudes.


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117: If kids are attending, I think the Wonderland Ballroom is the obvious choice.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 10:12 AM
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117: The Georgetown Waterfront Park is nice.
120: And I'm still irriatated with Kapps for that blurb.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 10:46 AM
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119: At least on his sexuality you have or had plausible deniability; Pennsylvania has done everything we can to forget he had anything to do with us.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:13 AM
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106: 626 is a very good score. I find that anything over 500 is good, and over 1000 is rare and requires some luck. I broke 2000 once.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:15 AM
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That's what I found later. Only really felt bad about the times I couldn't break 400.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:17 AM
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123: Woah, that's awesome. What's your technique? Keep things squarefree? Damn I really should be working today, but...


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:21 AM
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Well, what you really want is to have a small number of seeds and one large seed. Then you combine things involving the large seed a bunch and get a lot of points. Getting there is pretty hard though, but the main technique is to try to keep the number of seeds as low as you can.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:22 AM
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Along those lines, getting seeds which aren't prime is pretty useful.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:24 AM
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Hrm...that makes some sense. Seed management does seem very important. What exactly does "prime" factor mean? A prime or power of a prime? I've see 4 and 27 come up.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:26 AM
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No, I also had 6. Still not sure what it means, then, will probably need to look at the code.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:27 AM
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Oh, meh, I just didn't read the instructions. That's fiendsh, but at least they give the list of seeds.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:28 AM
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So 993 was pretty good? But I didn't understand what I was doing at all, other than merging numbers with their divisors. I should figure out how it works properly.

Or I should go back to reading goddam kickboxing documents.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 11:52 AM
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Now 1031. If these are good scores, this is clearly some kind of unconscious savant-like power.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:00 PM
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Yeah. Or else I'm doing it badly. Or we're on different settings (I'm using "any 'prime' factor of a tile on the board right now.") My average is around 400 I think.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:01 PM
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I also spent some should-have-been-sleeping time on Dive last night (which sure sounds tawdry). I spotted 126 too, I think, but as with 2048 I'm not too diligent about applying specific strategies.

This is also a good place to give Isotopic 256, which Turgid Jacobian linked in the Hugo Schwyzer thread, a fresh plug. Really elegant merge of theme and gameplay.


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133: I've been getting a bunch of 500's but haven't broken 600 yet.

134: I tried that and it's really cool how they worked the theme in, but I don't want time-limit (or even turn-limit) stress in these sort of games.


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135: I'm also much less likely to find myself submerged for round after round in that one. I do like the countdown element,* but I'm sure that the change-of-pace it induces does have something to do with my shorter sessions.

*Pun not intended. Also, I confess that I played several rounds before I realized that the limit wasn't a time limit (which would have been punishingly hard) but a number that went down once each turn (and so went only as fast as I did).


Posted by: joyslinger | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:29 PM
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Isotopic 126 is really tough. It seems to me like you have to get really lucky and that even with perfect play you probably don't win most of the time.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:32 PM
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117: Long walks are bad for me. My back starts to kill after more than a couple of blocks. Would prefer something closer to Metro. I suppose I could always just take a short hop in a cab if it came to it.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:45 PM
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W00t! Beat Isotopic 126 with 3514. Still stand by it being too hard and requiring luck.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:54 PM
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Wow. I haven't beaten any of these games yet.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:56 PM
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On the math one I was hacking around 400-800 and then my one kid did one, and paid attention and got 1149. So I tried to concentrate and got over 100. But too much concentration. For this kind of thing I want System 1 "flow."


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 12:58 PM
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I'm incompetent. I can't get above 400 on the divisors one after five tries, and I don't think I understand the rules yet, either.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:00 PM
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I think I started with a couple of fluke lucky games on Div. I'm consistently between 4 and 5 hundred now.

I also think that I'm never going to get through these documents at this rate.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:01 PM
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Oh, the numbers add? (Yes, I'm that dense.)


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:02 PM
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What is this Div. game you speak of? Wait, don't answer that.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:03 PM
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But now 821. Some one slap me and make me start staring at pdfs of fight cards again.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:10 PM
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I've never before had feelings about numbers like 17.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:11 PM
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1113. Getting a seed of 49 was awesome.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:11 PM
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Div misses out a key part of the genius of 2048, which is a clear end goal after which you're free.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:14 PM
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I had so many productive things I was intending to do this weekend, but all I've done is read most of Von Wafer's book, write one short and simple referee report, catch up on The Good Wife (zomg!!!), and waste time on the internet.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:19 PM
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Dammit, sunglasses doge again. I just can't get past that.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:30 PM
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I've moved on to Minecraft. Because productive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:43 PM
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Sunglasses doge five times in a row. But still stuck at ~7200 points and can't get to derp doge.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:47 PM
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I tried some new stuff on the divisor one and managed to get less than 200 which I think is hard in its own right. 1257 as highest, but not repeatable.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 1:50 PM
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I have now struck a vein of photographic promotional materials. Jesus, Apo is right about MMA looking like gay porn. Admitted, I suppose I'm speculating there about what gay porn looks like.

You know what the stupid thing is about this project? There are going to be about ten pages of anything I'm remotely interested in in the middle of all of this garbage.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 2:02 PM
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If you want a slightly easier time at doge2048, set this as your browser's user stylesheet. I tried to make it appropriate to the theme.

(Only tested in Safari. In Safari, open Preferences, go to the Advanced tab, and for "Style sheet" go to "other" and point it to a local copy of that file.)


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 2:11 PM
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155:

"Discovery is my business," and I have to ask, is this job too small, or too inchoate, don't-know-what-we're-looking-for, for this to be assigned to discovery specialists, either in-house or hired?


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 2:46 PM
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The only really productive thing I've done this weekend was reupholster our kitchen chairs. We went and saw the loveliest film, though: Satyajit Ray's Days and Nights in the Forest. (And just now I productively found out that it's pronounce Shotojit Rye.) I got as far as rainbows-emanating-from-face Doge 2048, for what that's worth.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 2:51 PM
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Too short a timeframe. We got the documents on Friday, and I need to find things for a deposition Tuesday.

Also, not enough labor. What's a discovery specialist? Or, actually, I am the discovery specialist on this one -- I've been bitching about not doing enough depositions and getting rusty (for procedural reasons my own cases are pretty much all motion practice and very little discovery) -- so I got assigned to help out on another case that turned into too much work for the lawyers who it actually belongs to.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 2:53 PM
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Now sunglasses Doge. Why am I doing this?

Oh, Chaikovsky. It seems like the evidence there was sort of...he was single and wrote an ambiguous phrase in a letter and had in a question-begging or anyway a little historical way a "gay sensibility." I mean we'll take him, by all means, but.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:04 PM
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Also I think the kitchen chair thing there was maybe a humblebrag so I slightly suck.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:05 PM
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I assumed it was a Minecraft chair. If it's a real chair, that is impressive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:08 PM
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I finally got derp doge! 12248. I feel a real sense of accomplishment now.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:18 PM
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catch up on The Good Wife (zomg!!!)

Holy shit, right?


Posted by: Den E. Crumb | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:24 PM
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I just unlocked the seed 341!


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:30 PM
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What's a discovery specialist? Or, actually, I am the discovery specialist on this one

I know this is a facetious reference to the underfunded nature of your office, but that's a lawyer who basically does nothing but discovery, these days often electronic even when the materials are just unknown and unclassified papers in storage boxes. Sometimes even now it's just pulling a physical file, often from a storage box and describing on a record form what's in it. Or the client pays to have a service scan every single page in the order they come out of the box, and the lawyer looks at the images one-by-one. These days the records are electronic records to start with, and all their metadata is very relevant.

It's done by: 1)Junior associates learning the ropes--the metaphor is intended to show the double function, training and discovery. 2) Staff attorneys who specialize in doing or supervising this work 3) Temporary attorneys, hired directly or through an agency on a project-by-project basis.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:37 PM
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138, et al.: What about the rooftop at Marvin, right around the corner from the U-Street metro station?


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:45 PM
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166.last: Not paralegals? I did that sort of stuff when I was a paralegal; if that sort of thing has to be done by an attorney now, things are even more fucked in the legal industry than I thought they were.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 3:48 PM
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155.1: you don't have to just speculate.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:04 PM
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I'm sure they are used, but I'm an attorney and I've done nothing else, basically for the last 7 years. I'm never aware of paralegals doing any of this work on projects I work on. I'm in 3), and while much in demand, would prefer to be in 2).


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:07 PM
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155, 169: Indeed, there's a quiz a few posts down that can give you a taste.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:12 PM
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If she watches gay porn and gets aroused, it automatically becomes heterosexual porn for females.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:14 PM
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150: In re Bonae Uxoris: I can't even talk about it. (Except that I have extensively.)


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Venting:

My local NPR station published a little human interest squib online about people who fall into the gap between Medicaid and ACA subsides.

The article failed to mention:

1. That this "gap" exists because of the Supreme Court ruling.

2. That PA will be, at best, 1 year behind NJ and DE (and quite likely more) if the feds allow our alternative-to-Medicaid-expansion plan.

3. That PA is one of only two states attempting an alternative plan.

I can just barely see omitting #1 if the rationale is that the article is a little squib and people know this background. But #2 and 3 are just inexcusable. They didn't even bother to quote the governor's rationale (such as it is) for the alternative plan!

ARGH. I cannot begin to communicate how infuriating it is to read an article that is so aggressively passive. It's like the heavens just opened up and *handed* PA this policy, don't you know?

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Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:21 PM
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I guess maybe porn for heterosexual females.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:21 PM
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I was going to skip the big bad episode of Bona Uxor but someone I live with felt strongly this was a major aesthetic cop-out so I watched it.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:23 PM
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I found out in grad school that some lesbian friends liked gay male porn which was a little puzzling to me. I would say the reverse is extremely uncommon.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:26 PM
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Re: the Good Wife: I don't even watch the show but Linda Holmes nailed it with her response to that episode.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:27 PM
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172, 175, 177: It's like you guys have never even seen The Kids Are All Right.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:28 PM
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178: That's a great link, Josh.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:35 PM
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177: Is there a plot?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:46 PM
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At least from my perspective, the writers of The Good Wife have built up a pretty huge reservoir of good will, so I'll wait to see what they do with this before I form any opinion. They've maintained a remarkably high and consistent standard over most of five seasons so far, and I can't think of any other TV show that I've watched that has come close to that sustained level of quality.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:47 PM
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My friend taught Poppy Z. Brite to say "you two fuck while I watch" in Thai because she was really hoping to finally get to see two men have sex in person.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:48 PM
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183: well yeah but (as I just learned) Poppy Z. Brite is now known as Billy Martin and has always identified as a gay man. So that's kind of a different situation.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:53 PM
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T(well Y, really)IL: Rakim is only one year older than Jay-Z and released both "Paid in Full" and "Follow the Leader" before his 21st birthday.
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Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 4:55 PM
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184 came out more churlish than I intended. Mostly it was just to marvel at human sexuality in all of its various permutations.


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184: huh, I didn't know part of that. (I knew about the heavy, heavy identification with gay men.)


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:05 PM
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167: I guess we should also try to pick a date for this notional DC meetup. How about Sunday 4/27? Or earlier in April? I'll be out of town on 4/13 (not that this should bother anyone), and Easter is on 4/20 (which isn't a conflict for me, but might be for other people?).


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:29 PM
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When I first read "has always identified as a gay man" I was like "yeah, yeah, tell it to your bachelorette party" because I thought we were talking "I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body!" rather than actual trans person. Wikipedia is confusing on this matter as it says rather clunkily that Billy Martin is a trans man but shows a picture of someone presenting pretty unambiguously as female and labeled still as Poppy Z. Brite. I guess it's a weird area: person is famous as female writer, Wikipedia entry is on famous female writer person, but if he's a trans man named Billy now maybe change the heading of the entry?

Essear, this season certainly had a run of the most exciting episodes of the entire show, and yeah, it has a bank of good will, but uh...how spoilery are we being here or not? I'm not in that "I'm not watching anymore because how could they do this to me?!" space but am a little curious how the show is going to be as interesting now that A THING HAPPENED.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:31 PM
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When I first read "has always identified as a gay man" I was like "yeah, yeah, tell it to your bachelorette party" because I thought we were talking "I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body!" rather than actual trans person. Wikipedia is confusing on this matter as it says rather clunkily that Billy Martin is a trans man but shows a picture of someone presenting pretty unambiguously as female and labeled still as Poppy Z. Brite. I guess it's a weird area: person is famous as female writer, Wikipedia entry is on famous female writer person, but if he's a trans man named Billy now maybe change the heading of the entry?

Essear, this season certainly had a run of the most exciting episodes of the entire show, and yeah, it has a bank of good will, but uh...how spoilery are we being here or not? I'm not in that "I'm not watching anymore because how could they do this to me?!" space but am a little curious how the show is going to be as interesting now that A THING HAPPENED.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:32 PM
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I feel so strongly about it I said it twice.

I guess btw I should amend "female writer" to "writer who presented as female" since I think trans people generally id as their trans gender even before they're able to do much about it outwardly.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:33 PM
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My suspicion is that Billy -- at least from his fiction -- would be more comfortable with the fluid, confusing, ambiguous aspects of trans identity than maybe other people. But who knows.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:38 PM
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I suppose if you're not from NY, "Billy Martin" isn't as strongly associated with the irritating baseball manager.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:39 PM
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193: no, that was my first thought too.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:42 PM
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Me also.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:45 PM
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189.2: The previews showed constantly during the Kentucky game and the spoiler was constantly mentioned within them. I'd obviously gone and read them earlier because I read recaps every week but have never watched the show and I am kind of a weird and stupid person, etc.

It seems like Martin hasn't really written much since taking on that name and identity and has now quit the writing biz, so I can see keeping Poppy Z. Brite as the name sort of, but it does feel wrong. Pat Califia is listed as Patrick in Wikipedia, but that change probably predates Wikipedia anyway. I'm not thinking of others in similar situations off the top of my head, though I suspect there are plenty.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:47 PM
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188: Sunday, 4/27 works fine for us (as do both 4/6 and 4/20).


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:51 PM
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189.last: I think the show has enough compelling characters and relationships to stay interesting, and the Willicia thing never was a big part of it for me.

It occurs to me that there is probably a part of the internet where people are now frantically speculating about how Alicia and Kalinda will be driven into each other's arms beds by grief.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:53 PM
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188: Easter is on 4/20 (which isn't a conflict for me, but might be for other people?)

Noted: One of the local iterations of the mugshot paper "Busted!" is offering an all-expenses paid weekend for two in Denver for 4/20 as a promotion. It will be interesting to see how that sort of thing gains legitimacy -- Price Is Right prizes? International holiday packages? Fact-finding missions by state legislative delegations?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 5:57 PM
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190: It's not clear to me when he started identifying as Martin, but he was publishing under the name Poppy Z. Brite as least as recently as 2007. His Livejournal username is "docbrite" but has the personal name "Billy Martin"; he uses the domain poppyzbrite.com. So I figured it likely that he has continued using the Brite name for reasons of professional identification; many writers are better known under (and their Wikipedia page named after) their pen name. But then the title of his Livejournal says "The Online Journal of Billy Martin, formerly Poppy Z. Brite."

He's actually the first entry on the Billy Martin disambiguation page (the page Billy_Martin is for the baseball guy) with no mention of Brite.

Then I read the talk page, and it gets more interesting. It has the usual issues with pronouns and whatnot, but what's neat is he's been editing the article himself, and has been getting some flack for that (for obvious reasons). He last edited it in 2008 under the name Pzbrite, and some other Wikipedians refer to him as Ms. Brite but do not otherwise appear to be questioning his identity (then again he also seemed to be known to be trans on Wikipedia at least as early as 2002 so who knows). So maybe the name change post-dated then?

Okay, here we are: someone considered changing the name, but then reverted it, for basically the reasons listed above. Martin still would be a better choice (with a redirect from Brite) but using Brite isn't without reason. But maybe I'd feel different if he published again.

Shorter this: what Thorn said. And it doesn't seem like there was any disagreement about the name one way or another, so be bold, I guess.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:03 PM
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198.last is where I read the aforementioned recaps.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:04 PM
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and the Willicia thing never was a big part of it for me.

It's like I don't even know you.

No, it isn't like my main reason for watching the show or anything but I find both characters and actors compelling and did like the whole storyline a lot.

As to Kalicia, I'm going to admit that (while it wasn't slashy that way) my happiest thought about the whole thing is that their interesting weird friendship can come back now.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:10 PM
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202: Smearcase and I are as one here. (The split from Will [personal and professional] was driving a whole lot of the storylines. Plus Josh Charles is my boyfriend.)


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:17 PM
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Also, for many years before her death Octavia Butler identified as "Leo Durocher".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:20 PM
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The bar got weird. A guy said to a woman, "I saw you make a homeless man very happy" as a way of letting her know he saw her talking with a homeless guy earlier and noticed her good deed. I assume she gave him a donation or something. She got offended for reasons I don't understand (I'm waiting for her to leave before asking) but that are probably secondary to gin. So they had a long conversation about privilege and West Virgina and how maybe she shouldn't have assumed whatever she assumed he meant by what he said because he was a black guy. I think he now hates white people.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:47 PM
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I maintain the above is on topic.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:47 PM
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Comity!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 6:48 PM
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207 to 205 and, you know what? 206.


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197: Actually Sunday 4/6 also works for me (in addition to 4/20 and 4/27). </boring DC-meetup-scheduling subthread>


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202, 203: Yeah, I guess "never a big part" was too strong a statement. But I think there's a lot going on in the show and it isn't necessarily going to suffer dramatically.

Tonight's episode is gut-wrenching.


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210: Stupid Amazing Race fucked up my dvr and now I have to wait til tomorrow. Bah.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:15 PM
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I haven't been keeping up with the amazing race at all this season.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:17 PM
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I've made it above 600 a couple of times in the divisor game but I keep getting tripped up when tiles merge when I don't expect them to. Also, I have no idea why, but I keep wanting to multiply 2 and 3 into 6 when they're next to each other. Math is hard.


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Don't people know cliches anymore? From one of the documents I'm reviewing: "As the saying goes, it is not the size of the dog, but the fight inside the dog that counts."

No. That's really not how the saying goes at all.


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Inside of a dog, it's too small to fight.


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It's not the scandal, it's the coverup outside of the scandal that gets people who were involved in the scandal.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:26 PM
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It's better to go hunting for ducks where the ducks are located during hunting season.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:27 PM
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A bird in the hand is worth cash.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:27 PM
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It's not the place where the keys are, it's the place where the light is that the drunk looks.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:29 PM
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When you assume, we both look like fools.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:30 PM
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A rented bird is worth the deposit.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:31 PM
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Is Good Wife like Buffy in that it's all right to start at Season 2? Because everyone says it's television made for adults, which I think I would enjoy, but Season 1 feels ponderous in a CBS-television-for-old-people way.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:31 PM
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'E' and 'A' are the only vowels in 'team'.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:34 PM
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There's no point crying on top of some milk.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:37 PM
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An old dog has to fight for new tricks.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:38 PM
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I'm a little punchy after two days of this, but 216 et seq. are making me make involuntary little snorting noises.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:39 PM
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I liked JMcQ's "inside of a doge" joke at the other place.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:40 PM
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The early bird gets the early worm.


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:40 PM
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Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're thinking.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:40 PM
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It's not the heat, it's the apparent heat caused by moist air.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:40 PM
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Once bitten, generally cautious in future.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:40 PM
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You can't make an omelet without the ingredients.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:41 PM
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227: Oh, a "joke", eh? Well, I suppose that's okay if you're unambitious and have lots of important tasks to attend to.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:41 PM
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If it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be some kind of aquatic avian.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:43 PM
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Running around like a chicken that's dead.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:43 PM
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The only thing that glitters is fool's gold.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:44 PM
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You're sleeping in the bed that you made earlier.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:44 PM
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Where there's smoke, it's hard to breathe, and your eyes will probably start watering.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:44 PM
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The acorn accelerates downward due to gravity.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:45 PM
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Put your money in your mouth.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:45 PM
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If it's too hot in the kitchen go to a different room.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:46 PM
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A man's gotta do some things that other people have ordered him to do, or that he has decided he ought to do for his own reasons.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:46 PM
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What's good for the goose is good for the male goose.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:47 PM
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It's always darkest when there is very little ambient light.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:48 PM
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Out of the frying pan but still warm to the touch.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:49 PM
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Six of a thing is the same as six of the same thing.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:49 PM
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April showers help the crops grow.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:50 PM
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If a frog had wings, rather than hopping, it would likely fly to its destination.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:51 PM
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Caught between a rock and a different rock.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:53 PM
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247: What? I thought they brought pilgrims.

Otherwise why would Chaucer's book about pilgrims begin by talking about "aprill with his shoures"?


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:53 PM
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Bad news travels at a different speed from good news, but unless you are on an unmoving platform, it is impossible to say which travels faster.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:54 PM
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It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in, as well as the training and physical fitness of, the dog.


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:55 PM
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If my grandmother had balls, she would be Billy Martin, formerly known as Poppy Z Brite.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:55 PM
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A stitch in time prevents further unnecessary damage.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:55 PM
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That's like comparing fruits.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:55 PM
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He who laughs last is still laughing after everyone else has stopped.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:58 PM
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If you step in a river twice, it's different.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:58 PM
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Sticking your finger into somebody's nostril is intrusive even if you like them.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:58 PM
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Due to neoteny, there are no mature human males, but only hypertrophied juvenile human males.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:59 PM
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You can lead a horse to water, but it is subjugating the free will of animals.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 7:59 PM
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You can lead a whore to culture, but sex workers should be able to set their own intellectual priorities.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:01 PM
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If a man does not self-stimulate with sufficient frequency, his seed will decay, resulting in degenerate offspring.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:02 PM
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Being savagely beaten and pelted with rocks is injurious in a different way than being spoken to.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:02 PM
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Time flies like an arrow. Fruit, lacking wings, does not fly.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:02 PM
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The number of potential chickens that were never hatched is uncountably infinite.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:04 PM
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It is harder for a rich man to go to heaven than to compress a camel by several orders of magnitude.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:05 PM
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Wear shoes that fit.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:08 PM
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It is quite unlikely to find an apple that has fallen miles from the tree from which it fell.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:11 PM
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Before making an adverse statement about another person, put a mile of distance between yourself and them. Also take their shoes.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:11 PM
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Many people are more likable if our distance from them is sufficient to limit our interactions with them.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:12 PM
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Green blades of grass can be seen at a greater distance than brown blades.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:14 PM
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If you don't like your fence, you won't like the people on the other side of it either.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:15 PM
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That's your wearable seabird.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:16 PM
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The fact that someone eats crackers is insufficient warrant to deprive them of sleep.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:17 PM
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Prenatal chickens should not be inventoried.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:17 PM
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Give a man a fish, and he'll be perplexed without a filet knife and some other cooking utensils.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:20 PM
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Check your greywater for infants.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:20 PM
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Keep your perspiration off of things, all of which are relatively minuscule, compared to other things.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:21 PM
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Best practices indicate eschewal of oral inspection in re equine donations.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:21 PM
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In soup preparation, after a certain point the marginal product of additional simultaneous labor inputs is negative.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:22 PM
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Physicians fear red fruit.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:23 PM
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If your soul could eat physical food, these aphorisms would be analogous to a mostly liquid, savory poultry dish.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:23 PM
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I claim your friends for myself.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:24 PM
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It is not possible for a requester of alms to meaningfully express consent.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:25 PM
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Your friends aren't your friends unless you want something from them and they'll give it to you.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:25 PM
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If you sweat a lot, but can convince someone to buy it from you, you're probably a genius.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:28 PM
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Private ownership of residences is theft.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:28 PM
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Non-functional mammary glands on male bovines lack any practical purpose whatsoever.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:28 PM
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If you're on a horse that's really big, you should probably get down.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:29 PM
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Attributes are unlawful acquisitions!


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:29 PM
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I thought you were talking about one equine in particular, but I see now that you meant one with a different hue.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:31 PM
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If you're in a hole, and you would prefer to be at or above ground level, you only compound your problem by expanding the hole downwards.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:32 PM
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Don't get a nose job because you're unhappy with your facelift .


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:32 PM
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If you can't say anything nice, become a mime.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:34 PM
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Don't continue an ophthalmological exam if you are yourself unable to see very well, due to an obstruction.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:35 PM
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I am finished with my speedread of the giant pile of nonsense, and the stuff I was hoping to find is not there. I do, however, now know that in mixed martial arts, it is a foul to, inter alia, "insert a finger in any of the opponent's orifices." Which really makes me feel much better about the sport.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:35 PM
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284 seems to evince a misunderstanding of the original.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:36 PM
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Old people resemble the children they once were in being unable to care for themselves.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:37 PM
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Book covers are not large enough to readably display the full contents of a book.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:37 PM
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No one has yet succeeded in feeding silkworms pork.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:38 PM
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When in Rome you will no doubt partake in many of the same activities as its denizens.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:40 PM
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AHA! I caught you editing!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:40 PM
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When you are having a thought, it is very likely to be succeeded by another thought, although in some locales it will be succeeded by a thing.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:40 PM
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You can't teach an old dog


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:41 PM
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When you are engaged in a livestock transaction, it is wise and customary to take the merchandise out of its containing sack.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:41 PM
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297: Thanks for the implicit endorsement of 262. I was worried that one would be too obscure or too forced.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:42 PM
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If you lived here, the police would come and arrest you for trespassing on the property of the outdoor advertising firm.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:43 PM
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Why would the sun give your anger a blowjob? That doesn't even make sense.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:44 PM
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Each of the places that exists fails to resemble home.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:44 PM
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Oh, I have no idea what 262 was.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:44 PM
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Hair color measurably affects subjective well-being.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:45 PM
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DUDE! 1149 on DIVE!!!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:48 PM
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Instead of storing your eggs in a basket, use a special carton like they have at grocery stores.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:49 PM
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310: Parents who fail to apply percussive educational methods rear entitled children.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:49 PM
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If you must eat a hand, swallow it whole.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:50 PM
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Exhorting the glee club.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:50 PM
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Ah, in that case I do think 262 is a stretch.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:51 PM
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I need that less than trepanation.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:53 PM
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So I totally don't understand the rules of combination for dive.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:54 PM
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318 was me

A jpeg is worth more than tl;dr


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:54 PM
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Sometimes once you've spent even a small amount of money on something, you might as well spend even more since it won't make much difference.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:56 PM
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Never wake a dog.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:58 PM
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Nevertheless I managed to get 818.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:59 PM
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A leopard can't change the patterns of its fur but may be able to employ a groomer for such.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 8:59 PM
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Oh, one of which divides the other. I missed that before.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:01 PM
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Every interval of an elephant's life contains unique information about the elephant's future state.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:08 PM
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If an elephant says "I don't recall" under oath, it should be convicted of perjury.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:09 PM
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It is a conjecture put forward by the narrator of an early 19th century novel that a man who has reached a marriageable age but is not married, and who is in possession of a substantial amount of money, must be lacking a spouse as that is the definition of what it means to be not married.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:10 PM
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Have some thieves play tag.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:10 PM
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What's good for the goose is good for the other kind of goose. The one with a penis.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:14 PM
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I forgot to ask what she said to him.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:17 PM
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Don't hate the person exploiting weaknesses in the system for personal gain at the cost of harming others, hate the abstract rules of the system itself, which do not have moral agency or independent existence.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:21 PM
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If War and Peace were erased from history, to be replaced by 500 images of similar artistic merit, it would be a fair trade.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:25 PM
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If you are being paid by the word, you get 1,000 times as much for an emoticon.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:25 PM
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Sailors draw conclusions about the weather from looking at the sky.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:33 PM
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Questions are not of a character such that stupidity could be said to be inherent to them. People are different.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:36 PM
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If a right action is composed of two parts, is not possible for each of those parts to be wrong when done alone.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:36 PM
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All this fecal matter has the characteristics of the fecal matter of a pony so there must be a pony here somewhere or, if not, a pony was here recently.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:41 PM
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Sometimes it makes sense to meticulously plot your revenge and bide your time until the moment is right, but when dealing with clowns a simple "fuck you" will often suffice.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:42 PM
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Fine carbon particulate matter suspended in the air is generally indicative of the process of combustion occurring in the vicinity.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 9:48 PM
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The secret to comedy is not coming in after all of the good ones have been done.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 10:01 PM
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. I do, however, now know that in mixed martial arts, it is a foul to, inter alia, "insert a finger in any of the opponent's orifices."

Some are fouler than others.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 10:21 PM
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I do, however, now know that in mixed martial arts, it is a foul to, inter alia, "insert a finger in any of the opponent's orifices."

You can pick your nose, and you can pick your battles, but if you stick your finger into your opponent's nostril you will be assessed a foul.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-30-14 10:34 PM
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Because I am the smartest, I stayed up 'til...it's just about midnight to watch Good Wife. And now I'm keyed up and sleep is not terribly likely. Tomorrow is going to be a fucker of a day.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:01 AM
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Best to make the most of tonight, then.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:09 AM
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Of course, if you worked for the state of Alaska you wouldn't have to work tomorrow anyway.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:14 AM
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Yep, nothing left to do now but get rip-roaring drunk.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:15 AM
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apo knows what's up.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:16 AM
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But you should go ahead and put on your work clothes first. If you sleep in them, you'll gain like 10-15 extra minutes in the morning.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:18 AM
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Why am I still awake? It's three hours later here.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:20 AM
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Four.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:26 AM
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And I was wondering the same thing. I know you have a weird sleep schedule, but this is pretty ridiculous.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:27 AM
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Pikers.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:32 AM
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Smearcase himself has been suspiciously silent.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:43 AM
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On the internet, no one knows you're asleep.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 1:50 AM
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It's snowing. This is crazy.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 5:51 AM
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It's whiteout conditions here in Suffolk, LI with about 2"-3" accumulation so far. This is crazy nuts, man. Winter is icumen in and IT WON"T FUCKING LEAVE!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 6:44 AM
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Re: DC meetup, I'll e-mail Heebie to request a planning thread. If x. trapnel is around this weekend, he can throw up another request there so it's more visible. I'm buried in work and probably not free, but either the 20th or 27th is fine, so I'll put those as tentative.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 6:54 AM
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May I hijack this thread for a minute to ask for a straw poll?

A highish end restaurant puts a 12% service charge on its tab. This is the bottom end of standard tip in Britain, where wait staff are covered by minimum wage. To show our appreciation of the actual service, we make it up by an additional 8%, to around 20% in total, which is pretty high by UK standards.

The waiter insists on returning our cash as we collect our coats. Do we interpret this as 1. The waiter being passive aggressive because we didn't add another whole tip to the tab - this would have meant at least 25% in all, which they can fuck right off, or 2. the restaurant operates a no tipping policy but don't see fit to mention it anywhere? What thinks the hive mind?

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 6:58 AM
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I'd say 2, but how did the waiter insist? Were no reasons given?


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:00 AM
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No reasons. Polite but firm.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:09 AM
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I'd guess 2 as well. I would have wanted to ask why but I think I would have been too taken aback by it to think to ask at the time.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:29 AM
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359: I would say option 2. If there is a service charge on the bill, it means you don't have to leave an additional tip - and I've worked at places where additional tips were actually not allowed, because it was seen as unfair to the non-waiting staff, who didn't get the chance of making extra.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:34 AM
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Actually, I've quit places (well, one place) where the owners/managers took the additional tips for themselves, and forbade staff to mention it to the patrons. Which is another possible explanation, if that kind of stuff also happens in the UK.


Posted by: Awl | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:39 AM
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363.2 Do tips not normally get put in a tronc so that injustice is avoided?

I think 2 probably, but usually there's guidance on the menu if they don't allow tipping: "A service charge is made. Gratuities not accepted." Or words to that effect.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:42 AM
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Stopped mid-thread to play DIVE. Oh, I like that. Although I always want them to add if they have common factors, but I guess that would be a lot easier.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:46 AM
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I've not heard of 364 in that form, but on the other hand I'm happy to believe the worst of management in the catering trade on principle.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:48 AM
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Do tips not normally get put in a tronc so that injustice is avoided?

They normally get pocketed by the waiter involved without telling anybody...


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:48 AM
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Top score 797 so far but I have to work now.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:52 AM
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Wait, I thought UK was non-tipping-culture generally -- that is, you might leave a tip for extraordinary service or because you felt expansive, but that it wasn't a norm. Has that changed in recent memory, or is continental Europe different, or am I just completely confused?

I mean, 12% is stingy by US standards, and 20% is sort of ordinary respectable tipping, but 12% wouldn't be absolutely bizarre here -- that's not far off US norms, which have crept up from 15% to 20% in my adult life, and I'm not sure how universal 20% is as a standard.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:53 AM
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Against my better judgement I must ask: what is this DIVE game?


/neighbor actually has the snowblower out and is doing his driveway. I think he just really likes to do that because it will all be melted by the afternoon anyway. I think we got over 3" here.



Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:55 AM
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UK tips in restaurants, hotels and taxis. Nowhere else AFAIK.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:00 AM
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Wait, I thought UK was non-tipping-culture generally -- that is, you might leave a tip for extraordinary service or because you felt expansive, but that it wasn't a norm.

It is. You don't tip taxi drivers, hotel room staff, etc.
The only exception is in restaurants - increasingly, though, I'm finding that a 12% service charge is added to the bill, thus irritating people like me who were brought up to think that 10% was the standard.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:00 AM
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You tip taxi drivers? Why?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:01 AM
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I mean, the average London taxi driver is probably making a lot more than I am. I don't tip my solicitor either.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:02 AM
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You don't tip taxi drivers, hotel room staff, etc.

Since when? I was brought up to tip both, and continue to do so.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:02 AM
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Ditto to 376.

Edinburgh stereotypes ftw!


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:15 AM
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A taxi driver I'd round up. And I always tip hairdressers/barbers.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:15 AM
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(If I was happy.)


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:16 AM
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Clearly one of you is actually a German spy.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:17 AM
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Is UK tipping culture out of sync with continental European tipping culture, or am I just absolutely confused? Because I could have sworn I'd been told that tipping was minimal/optional even in restaurants.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:19 AM
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Is UK tipping culture out of sync with continental European tipping culture

Yes, I think so.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:21 AM
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Based on a decade of internet mockery, I thought the US was unique in the world in that we have this barbaric concept of the "tip".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:22 AM
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With taxis I generally round up, with hairdressers I don't tip. But that's only because I go to a hairdressers where I pay 40 quid for not very many minutes work. When I used to use a standard barber, I'd round up.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:24 AM
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I usually just leave the reservoir tip.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:26 AM
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Clearly one of you is actually a German spy.

It can't be ttaM, because he works at one of the three great English universities - Oxford, Cambridge and Hull.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:27 AM
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Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:28 AM
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I used to tip taxi drivers before they started trying to kill me on a regular basis. In defiance of 377, I still tip taxi drivers in Edinburgh.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:28 AM
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And I don't tip hotel staff because when I worked in a hotel no one tipped me.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:29 AM
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388 has a point. London taxi drivers can, generally, fuck off.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:29 AM
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"Blacks are all right but I wouldn't want my daughter to marry one" -- actually said to me, in 2009 (not 1973), by a London taxi driver.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:30 AM
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390 should not extend to London minicab drivers who are normally very courteous and occasionally turn out to be, eg, former professors of medicine at Kabul University or something. Black cab drivers, absolutely. (Black cab) drivers, that is.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:32 AM
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384. For god's sake! Do they gold plate your head for that money? Otherwise yes, round up for taxis, and I usually leave a fiver in a hotel room, especially if I've been there more than one night. Like I-Roy, I'm more likely to shoot my present barber than tip him.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:32 AM
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Tipping in UK restaurants: 10% or thereabouts? Or not at all? Or only if they're particularly awesome? I was not clear on this when I visited.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:32 AM
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394: a standard 10%, unless service is included in the bill (in which case nothing) or unless they've done an unusually shite job (in which case nothing).


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:33 AM
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re: 393

That'd be about standard at a hairdressers for a man's haircut, rather than a barber. I live in London, remember. It also costs me about 70 quid a day for childcare. And about 20 quid a day to commute. On the scale of normal ttaM-expenses, 37 quid every couple of months is nothing.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:34 AM
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392. The only time I've had occasion to use a London minicab lately, he couldn't find Fleet Street and charged twice what the black cab had in the other direction. He should have tipped me.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:34 AM
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NY taxis are really good, and surprisingly cheap, and I am pretty sure I forgot to tip mine a couple of times at least last week. I apologise to New York.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:37 AM
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393: You're paying for many days of good hair, so even very small differences in quality are worth a lot of money.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:37 AM
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re: 399

That, too. I don't have a lot of hair, and what I do have is a mixture of incredibly thick [ladies], and barely there at all. A decent haircut makes a massive difference.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:38 AM
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And on the supply side, you're paying for the training and experience that let them not screw up in all the possible ways. And for some idle time too if appointments are available on short notice and wait times aren't long.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:41 AM
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Plus as ttaM alluded, he's paying for the convenience of their location.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:42 AM
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1570! Woot, hook 'em Natilo!


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:46 AM
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396: Does that childcare amount mean xelA's caregivers make a living wage? I know Selah's is ridiculously inexpensive because it's subsidized both by the state and private charity/grants, but you're still spending almost 5 times more than we are.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:50 AM
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I actually thought Ttam's daycare quote was lower than I would have expected, compared to the relative cost of living.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:54 AM
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re: 404

Possibly not. They'll make more than the national minimum wage, but I suspect not a huge amount more.

I think we actually pay a little under 70 quid [high 60s, I think]. That's roughly typical for our area of London, although you can pay a fair bit more. We looked at some that were closer to 90. You can't really pay much less. I think the cheapest we found within miles was about 60.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 8:59 AM
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Based on a decade of internet mockery, I thought the US was unique in the world in that we have this barbaric concept of the "tip".

The barbarism is including tips in the minimum wage.

Anyway: I tip waitstaff, taxi drivers (usually just rounding up), barbers, hotel cleaners (though too often I forget), takeaway delivery (though I only order takeaway maybe once a year) and increasingly bar staff on a large round. The latter mainly so that I don't forget to tip when I'm in the US.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:06 AM
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I think I'm starting to realise why taxi drivers keep trying to kill me.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:07 AM
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I think ttaM pays more than we do for childcare, which is amazing, because jesus christ we pay a lot for childcare.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:10 AM
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409: In a conversion of dollars to pounds, ttaM pays more, but relative to cost of living, I'd guess you guys pay more. Isn't London dramatically more expensive than Boston in general?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:13 AM
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I don't know. I don't live in one of the more expensive parts of London, though, nor do I earn the sort of salary that a lot of Londoners do. I'd bet that I pay more as a percentage of my take home pay, probably.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:18 AM
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I, as a grad student, will take that bet!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:20 AM
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http://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=United+Kingdom&city1=Boston%2C+MA&city2=London


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:20 AM
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And I don't tip hotel staff because when I worked in a hotel no one tipped me.

Pay it forwards!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 9:25 AM
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I wouldn't put a lot of weight on those numbers in 413, both because of the methodology (ask random people on the internet with no apparent quality control or much guidance - what's the city centre?) and because some of the specifics seem way off (eg mobile tariffs - I've always had the impression that US mobile tariffs are much higher - and rents, which seem way too low in London.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:06 AM
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I never tip takeaway people (which we have at least once a month) because we nearly always order online these days so I don't have to have cash.

We were out for a pub meal with my parents and my kids a couple of years ago - it was pretty cheap, and we were buying drinks at the bar, so my dad left £10 on the table which was about 10%. And the owner/manager gave him back a fiver, saying "they [two teenage girls who had waited on us perfectly well] don't need that much!". This was in Wales though.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:08 AM
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re: 415

Good point re: the rent. Our 2 bed place, in the far western reaches of Ealing, and far from the most expensive similar sized place in the area, isn't really that far off the price they quote for a 3 bed outside the city centre.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:12 AM
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You pay a premium to have Professor Marcus's String Quintet as neighbors.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:15 AM
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Quietly appreciating 418.


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Anyhow, the rents for Boston are a bit low, too. You would probably expect to pay the price they list for a 3 bedroom (outside of &c.) for a 2 bedroom in Camberville.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:17 AM
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70 quid is what, $140, or $15/hour for 8 hours of care? That's what you'd pay for a very cheap private nanny here, but definitely way more than day care. I think the fancy day care place was $1350/month, or about $8.40 an hour. London is more expensive than LA but not almost twice as expensive. But maybe exchange rate comparisons are screwing things up.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:22 AM
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Ours is around $13 an hour.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:29 AM
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That is . . . insane, unless there's some kind of pro-rating going on for very few hours. You can definitely get good day care here for much less than $1350/month.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:33 AM
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Or I guess I should say "could" maybe prices have soared in the past 4 years.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:34 AM
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Ours is somewhat expensive for the town but not wildly out of line. One big driver, as far as I know, is that the mandated care level is one caregiver present at all times for every three infants. Combine that with a living wage for caregivers and you're talking real money.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:35 AM
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Combine that with a living wage for caregivers and you're talking real money.

See, this is where Texas sees big savings.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:39 AM
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426: plus your ratios are something like one adult to eleven hundred infants.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:41 AM
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I think it's one to four. But yes. Don't drive me to make snide observations again about the combined cost of our three kids vs. your one kid.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:44 AM
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For infants it's not as different as I thought but for toddler/preschool texas has almost twice the ratio that we do.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:45 AM
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One adult to fifteen three-year-olds. Jesus. I hope they can use pepper grenades.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:46 AM
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A friend of mine teaches pre-K for at-risk kids. It's part of the K-12 system instead of the daycare system, so she has 22 four year olds. Just her, and 22 high needs four year olds. Don't worry, she gets a 20 minute break for lunch.

Also, they're not allowed to take naps - tax payer's dime, duh - and so sometimes the kids just fall asleep mid-activity. (Whereas if you're overseen by the daycare licensing, rest time is mandated.)


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:49 AM
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I like how they separated out 18-23 month old children. They're so much more mature than 15-17 month olds.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 10:50 AM
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Also, they're not allowed to take naps - tax payer's dime, duh

Wait, what? The children aren't employees. Are they?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 11:00 AM
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415 I've always had the impression that US mobile tariffs are much higher

You have tariffs that move?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 11:09 AM
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433: It's for their own good! Never too early to learn to shed those poor-people habits!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 11:13 AM
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97: I've been playing 2048 on my Android, with Alexander Kulikovski's version (which now allows you to select your goal in advance - 2048, 4096, 8192, or infinite - but ends when you reach the goal). So far I'm 10/16 for the 2048 goal and 0/4 for the 4096 goal. 4096 is effectively not just parleying two 2048 games back-to-back, but playing the second game with one less space available, which makes it more challenging.

One other aspect of extending AWB's strategy is error recovery when you screw up the top row - either because you were forced to move down (e.g., having the top 3 rows filled with nothing else), or because you finger-fumbled a down move that you didn't intend, and now have a 2 block in the middle of the top row with a big block somewhere in the middle of the layout, blocking stuff. I've sometimes managed to switch goals and get one of the sides into the right order, even if the top is screwed up (in which case now "right" or "left" are now the forbidden move), and sometimes managed to grow things back into the proper shape (especially closer to the beginning), but that definitely poses a challenge.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 12:54 PM
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436.2: I totes have been having that problem. I've gotten to 2048 twice, but normally the 2 in the top row is what stops me from getting there.

The twerp who wrote the internet 2048 version is, like, only 19 years old. My time has been sucked away by a teenager I've never met.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 1:04 PM
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Oh god, I really don't get tipping in the UK. I feel like I was just getting the hang of US tipping, and then I moved .... and now I'm confused. I think my family here tips lower than you all do, but I've always just taken their lead. Hmm.

If the person who cuts you hair is also the owner of the salon, do you still tip? I though that was one of the situations where you don't but I realise I'm not really clear on it.


Posted by: Parenthetical | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 2:24 PM
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Well, I do - at least I think she's the owner because she is more the front person, but there's only her and a bloke, and a younger woman who washes hair and sweeps the floor.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 4:19 PM
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I got 4096, but it took some luck. I got stuck with full rows and got luck that it didn't screw me up too much, and it still took a lot of very careful work to get back to a sane position.


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in" (9) | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 4:23 PM
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My current game with a 4096 goal isn't guaranteed to work, but it has already involved a pretty spectacular error recovery. I had the 2048 tile in the upper left, but 512 and 256 tiles that had left the top row wandering around the board and jamming things up. Finally, after multiple switches between top and left being the goal row, I managed to consolidate them into a 1024 tile in the right place, via a couple of intentional forbidden moves with an almost-full board that took the 2048 tile out of its corner and left me holding my breath about whether I would get blocked out from moving it back. Current position:
2048,1024,128,64;
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Still no guarantees, but looking much saner.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 5:24 PM
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2293 on divisors. I should stop now.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:55 PM
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441: You're in really good shape. Unless something bad happens, you should be able to get it.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:57 PM
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442: Just below the 2000 barrier. Badly addictive. 23 is the hound from hell.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 7:57 PM
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Unless something bad happens, you should be able to get it.

Not in my experience. I've had that sort of situation or better on three occasions and never gotten to 4096. My best was:
2048, 1024, 256, 128
16, 32, 64, 32

and two low numbers on the two bottom rows combined. And then It All Went to Hell a couple moves later with an unavoidable down shift.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 03-31-14 11:33 PM
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442,444: This is the most badly addictive thing I've done in a while. I might need to leech block something for the first time in my life. But it is just so gratifying when you get to where you're slinging around some big numbers and when you blow it usually feels like you almost got there. Slowed down and got a few over 2K. 2630 something is my highest, that unlocked 151, but had a 371 on another one. I'm interested that my comfort level changes dramatically from 5s (view them as basically benign) to 7s (get rid of them!)--not sure that is warranted by the actually effects of the two.


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443: Something bad happened (the three rows full deathtrap with the requisite forced down move). Tried to minimize the impact and keep the two biggest blocks in the top row; wound up clogging stuff up worse when the new blocks didn't cooperate. I'm thinking I should spend more effort preventing that particular configuration (if a proposed move will leave only one space free in the top three plus the whole bottom row free, consider an alternative, unless there will be adjacent tiles that can be merged). Now 0/7 on the 4096 goal.


Posted by: Dave W. | Link to this comment | 04- 1-14 3:47 PM
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446: re, 5s, 7s: me too! I think it's mostly a computational thing, since verifying that a number is a multiple of 5 is so much easier than verifying that it's a multiple of 7. Similarly, I like 11s but hate 17s.


447: Bummer. That's generally the only fail state that I can't see coming, and it's so frustrating when it happens.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 04- 1-14 4:13 PM
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431 is enraging. Φ goes to day care with two staff caring for three two-year-olds and two one-year-olds.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 04- 1-14 4:43 PM
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447: Finally! A successful 4096 run. Now 1/10 on 4096, 10/16 on 2048. So yeah, 4096 is significantly harder than a two 2048 parley, because of the extra big block to deal with while trying for the second 2048. The app also offers a 8192 goal option; not sure I'll even try that one.


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