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It was a women's lacrosse event. Douchebag equality will soon be upon us.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:14 AM
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The group also allegedly exposed a female student's genitals to patrons

The group did this? Was said female student a member of said group? If not, this is sexual assault. If yes, then what was the involvement of the rest of the group?

"OK, Bob, you connect the webcam to the large screen TV. Chad is in charge of the remote--you're not too drunk to find the "TV/Video" button, right? Now Ralph, you hold the flashlight. And on the count of three, Lisa, you . . . well, you know what to do."


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:15 AM
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"Was said female student a member of said group? "

Sexist. They let women play women's lacrosse now.


Posted by: lemmy caution | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:19 AM
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College students have wild party. Person who did not attend wild parties in college is jealous/fascinated/resentful. News at 11.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:21 AM
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3: You think women can't be named Bob, Chad, or Ralph? Who's the sexist now, huh?


Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:21 AM
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Have we attained the long-sought goal of gender equality for boorish behavior by college lacrosse teams? Also, mentioning the alleged "paltry tip" was a nice way to place into perspective the alleged transgressions.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:28 AM
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4: I'm going to stick with urinating on a bar in a restaurant as being outside the bounds of acceptability.

The important part is that these douchebags will be running the country in a few years. And that the people running the country right now were exactly these douchebags, but were better at keeping it quiet. And that they all think they're better than "those people."


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:35 AM
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7 -- College students have wild party. Person who did not attend wild parties in college is jealous/fascinated/resentful. News at 11.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:38 AM
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8: I'm also going to stick with urinating on a bar in a restaurant as being outside the bounds of acceptability.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:40 AM
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Yeah, me too, but sometimes college students do things that are unacceptable while having wild parties. Why do we care about this?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:41 AM
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cocaine use in the bathrooms and urinating on the bar

One of these is obviously terrible, but one just seems like a matter of simple expediency.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:43 AM
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Wharton is the business school of that university. The pissing on the bar party was most likely not what you'd call "wild", just very drunk.


Posted by: dsquared | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:45 AM
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Maybe they just mixed up the word order? Cocaine use on the bar and urinating in the bathrooms wouldn't be so bad.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:45 AM
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Having a wild party and destroying things in the confines of your frat house: totally normal. Having a wild party and destroying things in public in someone else's restaurant: oblivious, arrogant, asshole behavior.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:46 AM
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14: On the other hand, at least you still have an undestroyed frat house.


Posted by: DaveLHI | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:46 AM
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And undertipping for it. I mean, still obnoxious and unpleasant, but if you have a wild party and do property damage, and then pay for all the damage with enough extra that the inconvenienced proprietor and employees are mollified, it is at least somewhat less bad.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:48 AM
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I think I also don't necessarily have a picture of what "urinating on the bar" means. Like, I was thinking "standing on the bar pissing on it", but it could be "so drunk as to mistake standing at the bar for standing at a urinal"; while both are obviously inappropriate in most restaurants, they carry very different implications a/f/a what sort of party it was.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:48 AM
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I'm not saying they shouldn't pay for whatever damages at the bar, or be banned from the bar in the future. Still, this story really is: college students have wild party at a bar. Person who did not attend wild parties in college at a bar is jealous/fascinated/resentful. News at 11.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:48 AM
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"so drunk as to mistake standing at the bar for standing at a urinal"

I find this hard to conceptualize. I would hit "so drunk as to no longer be conscious" long before that.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:49 AM
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"Conscious" and "able to stand" are not necessarily perfectly correlated.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:51 AM
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Maybe they just had an accident.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:51 AM
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Maybe your face just had an accident.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:53 AM
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Perhaps they mistook it for one of those working class bars with the trough where the foot rail otherwise is.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:56 AM
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A fratboy (back in the '80s) friend of Buck's reports having been thrown out of a bar once because he was drunk enough to have believed no one would notice or mind his pissing on the dance floor. So, a reportedly achievable level of intoxication -- still upright and remembering the incident the next day, but drunk enough to have completely lost track of what sort of urination-related behaviors people usually object to.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:57 AM
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Does that person now "run the country"?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:58 AM
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Does that person now "run the country"?


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 10:58 AM
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Surprising defensiveness on behalf of the boorish entitled property-destruction crowd from one member of our community -- combined with conviction that everyone is "fascinated" in such stories. But we will NOT take the bait and ask for your college anecdotes.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:01 AM
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No, he's one of those odd hippie/fratboy combinations -- literal fratboy at the time, and still clearly that sort of person, but also very much with the spiritual-let-me-smudge-that-with-sage-for-you-to-clear-the-negative-energy sort of thing. He works for some DC-area parasitic-on-the-DOE company doing renewable energy stuff.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:02 AM
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@7 "keeping it quiet"

Hard to believe it never leaked before. Are there no waiters at the St. Regis? I guess the difference is the videos. Even so, it seems like small beer, exactly what you'd expect from "Wall Street faux fraternity."

Also, the nod to the still-unsullied humanity of the 20-something bankers and traders makes me go, "O RLY?" Maybe New York mag thinks that's one of their demographics.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:04 AM
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16: and then pay for all the damage with enough extra that the inconvenienced proprietor and employees are mollified, it is at least somewhat less bad.

Speaks somewhat to Jason's overall points (wild college party envy aside). But it's all OK if your accountants end up paying for it all.

Not saying LB is objectively pro McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission but not saying she isn't.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:04 AM
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OP item reminded me of a small somewhat sad item I saw in passing in a local upstate NY newspaper a few years back when the newly-restored bar in not-very-genteel Jamestown NY was destroyed in a somewhat wilder romp by a local rugby team. No one with extra money involved on any side of that one the article made clear.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:14 AM
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27: At least they didn't get drunk and download movies!


Posted by: Unfoggetarian: "Pause endlessly, then go in." (9) | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:19 AM
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30.1: Discretion, JP.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:22 AM
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Does anyone know if bars in college areas typically take out insurance against this sort of thing, and what it would cost?

Some breakage, both of facilities and equipment is probably written off in the normal course.

A friend of mine owned a college bar in the 70s for a time, but this sort of question never came up in conversation. I had no head for business then; now I'd be very interested.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:26 AM
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At least they didn't get drunk on evil, evil beer and download movies!


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:27 AM
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33: Oops. Cleanup may be necessary.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:36 AM
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Speaks somewhat to [...] overall points

Possible discretion issue here.


Posted by: politicalfootball | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:38 AM
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I've been to Fado in DC (near Verizon Center) . It is a little cheesy.


Posted by: bill | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:44 AM
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31 - Wasn't David Cameron a member of this collection of entitled twits, a society which exists for the explicit purpose of getting hammered and trashing restaurants?


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:53 AM
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17: I dunno, do they have a law school, too?

24: a loose aqaintence of mine owns a bar here. A surprising number of people seem to think it is OK to piss on the dance floor, on the bar, on the stage while performing, well, anywhere. OK, by people, I mean men. Maybe it happened, but I haven't heard of any non-male-identified incidents.


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:08 PM
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I've spent a lot of time in bars. I've never seen somebody piss on the actual bar. I think that's a step beyond "wild party" and into malicious damage.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:16 PM
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Yesterday morning I saw a mentally disturbed guy who lives at the home down the street pissing in the gutter between two parked cars. I hadn't previously taken him for a respectable MBA type, but Rob has set me straight on the point.

Pissing inappropriately is the sine qua non of fine breeding.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:16 PM
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At least he was going between the cars.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:22 PM
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Fado franchises usually have overpriced beer and a hostile ambiance saturated with the looming possibility of petty frat-boy violence or, even worse, loud conversations among with people with horrible priors. On the other hand they show European soccer live.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:30 PM
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44: Wow sounds like a commute hour bus between the Marina and the Financial District. Minus the beer, gotta catch a 19 Polk for that.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:39 PM
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And minus the football, suppose you could play it on your phone.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:40 PM
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39: I'd thought it was just Boris Johnson. But no! Cameron too! Awesome.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:45 PM
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Real hell-raisers!


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:49 PM
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39: I'd thought it was just Boris Johnson. But no! Cameron too! Awesome.

And Osborne. We truly are ruled by cunts.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 12:49 PM
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47 to 42.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:00 PM
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I've always wondered about relations between the Bullingdon Club and the Dangerous Sports Club. That would make a fun setting for a '70s-era Lord-So-and-So-amateur-detective-doesn't-care-about-the-murder-of-some-hippie-tutor-but-someone-has-stolen-the-club-wombat mystery.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:01 PM
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OT: Republican running in primary vs Rep. Ted Yoho is a LARP enthusiast, who apparently doesn't mind having his photos published. Story is WaPo, so safe for work. This amuses me terribly.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:08 PM
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"...And that's when I took my dick out."


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:08 PM
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There is a reason that the Bohemian Club restricts this sort of activity to The Summer Encampment. Pissing on the trees is encouraged.


Posted by: Tasseled Loafered Leech | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:13 PM
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52: I hate Obamacare but I'll be damned if I'll vote for some filthy nerd!


Posted by: OPINIONATED TEA PARTY VOTER | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 1:21 PM
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53,54 -> 52.

We really need a LISP engine sometimes.

Yes, I'm spending most of my day on hold.


Posted by: grumbles | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 3:17 PM
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53: I really wonder whether he changed the names. I should see whether the couple I know with that name and appropriate degrees/professions were dating back then....


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 3:56 PM
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Bullingdon Club: painful lingering death would be too good for them.* The fact that several of the Tory front bench were members tells you everything you need to know about the contemporary Tory party.

* I've known at least one member. A prick of the highest water.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 4:15 PM
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Seriously, how did Boris Johnson achieve elected office? I can understand inherited wealth or whatever, but that guy seriously does not seem capable of tying his own shoelaces. What is the constituency for "let's elect hillariously risible upper class buffoons to important political office"? I mean yeah yeah yeah we voted in George W. Bush but he's not as visibly completely ridiculous as Boris Johnson. Look at that hair!!


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 4:30 PM
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Everything in here seems sort of acceptable for a college party except the 4% tip. If someone has to clean up your piss a 25% tip is about the minimum appropriate.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 5:59 PM
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Maybe someone knew it was going to be that kind of party so they stuck their tip in the mashed potatoes and then it got thrown out.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 6:27 PM
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I think the women's lacrosse team was the one to stiff on the tip, but it was Wharton people who, on a different night, pissed on bar.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 6:32 PM
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Age of Innocence, indeed.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 6:33 PM
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The women did have an case of exposed genitals, but they were not weaponized.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 6:49 PM
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62/64: I'd read carefully, since the lacrosse player pissing on the bar would have covered both.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 6:58 PM
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If she drank enough, I suppose she might cover both.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:00 PM
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Not an inverse relationship?


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:01 PM
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More piss-covered bar vs less covered genitals, I mean.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:02 PM
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Covering a bar takes a certain amount of fluid.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:03 PM
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And you can cover genitals with piss.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:04 PM
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Granted, it doesn't provide the opaque coverage many bar owners want to see over genitals.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 7:09 PM
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I know this is off topic,but I did in fact just find five dollars on the sidewalk.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:17 PM
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If you pissed on it, that would make it on-topic.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:18 PM
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I was on my way out of a bar, is that partial credit.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:22 PM
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Absolutely.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:22 PM
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I've been to that Fado. Directly after this.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:50 PM
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Did that associate piss on the bar, or did you have to do it yourself?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 04- 2-14 11:58 PM
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If it was an associate, I'm pretty sure they pissed at 11pm and yelled at someone about coffee.


Posted by: grumbles | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 12:09 AM
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re: 59

Well, Johnson is considerably smarter than Bush. The buffoon shit is partly just a schtick that he's worked up. A lot of what he believes or proposes is standard evil-Tory-bastard stuff, wrapped in a layer of buffoon-ish apparent harmlessness. I'd bet that Johnson is considerably smarter than most of the Tory front bench, who are genuinely the thickest front bench I can ever remember.

I've had a few arguments with friends who buy the whole 'Boris is a larfff, hilarious innee?' shit.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 1:32 AM
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The buffoon shit is partly just a schtick that he's worked up. A lot of what he believes or proposes is standard evil-Tory-bastard stuff, wrapped in a layer of buffoon-ish apparent harmlessness

Indeed. He was memorably described by one of my friends as a cunt in twat's clothing.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 2:26 AM
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Well, Johnson is considerably smarter than Bush. The buffoon shit is partly just a schtick that he's worked up. A lot of what he believes or proposes is standard evil-Tory-bastard stuff, wrapped in a layer of buffoon-ish apparent harmlessness.

The Evil Clown Tendency, in fact. http://www.unfogged.com/archives/comments_13325.html


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:10 AM
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Bullingdon Club: painful lingering death would be too good for them.

On the subject of painful lingering death, the chap who assassinated Rasputin was a Bullingdon Club alumnus.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:13 AM
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82. Wasn't the Bullingdon a standard issue huntin', shootin' and fishin' club in those days?

What I want to know is why a pseudo-Irish pub is called Fado. It should be a Portuguese folk music bar.

Oh and Johnson's actual politics are even nastier than Davybloke's.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:37 AM
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82: I don't know. Peter Fleming was a member too and he was a generally good bloke.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:57 AM
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re: 83

I believe so.

The wank that I know who was in the Bullingdon, told us a story once that I think he thought we [the group that was in the pub] would find funny. About how they'd trashed some Indian restaurant [for which he got fined by the college], and then, on the anniversary of trashing it, him and his arsewipe mates, booked again under a false name, and trashed it again. The wankers, I not, don't do this sort of shit in hard pubs, where someone might extract physical redress.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:57 AM
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I note ... not I not.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 3:58 AM
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I am slightly amazed, by the way, at the widespread assumption here that getting obnoxiously drunk and breaking a place up is specifically typical upper-class behaviour. It really isn't limited to the upper classes, as anyone who runs a pub in (say) Colchester, Catterick, Tidworth or Plymouth could testify. It's typical "drunken lout" behaviour and that's not a category limited to one class. The upper classes actually come off fairly well here in that they limited themselves to property damage rather than starting to fight.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 4:12 AM
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The upper classes actually come off fairly well here in that they limited themselves to property damage rather than starting to fight.

I think that's getting at the difference, though. At least IME, I've never seen or heard of deliberate property damage in 'hard' pubs; it's always been incidental to violence. Actually smashing up a place for fun, though? That seems Bullingdon to me.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 4:35 AM
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What I want to know is why a pseudo-Irish pub is called Fado

Because of not entirely convincing naming rationale


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 4:54 AM
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re: 87

What 88, said. This isn't incidentally to violence, or as a result of idiocy. It's pre-planned, by people who know they have the power and wealth to avoid jail, and who then exploit that privilege for the express explicit purpose of behaving like total bastards with impunity.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:05 AM
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Bollox to the pseudo-Irish, then. This is Fado.

88 gets it right I think. It's the malice aforethought: "A shriller note could now be heard rising from Sir Alastair's rooms; any who have heard that sound will shrink at the recollection of it; it is the sound of English county families baying for broken glass."


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:10 AM
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Well pwned there.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:10 AM
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Re comment 1, didn't Han/na Ro/sin write a long piece about the embrace of fratboyishness by Ivy League b-school women?


Posted by: X. Trapnel | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:14 AM
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59: Boris Johnson has retained a patina of culture in a way that GWB hasn't. He *sounds* like he could be kind of smart.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:29 AM
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90: but then again, is it better to go out for the evening with the intention of getting drunk and smashing up a restaurant, or to go out for the evening with the intention of getting drunk and starting a fight?


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94: Gosh, no he doesn't. He's like the Platonic form of the sort of in-or-overbred English twit who one would discover without much surprise couldn't write his own name.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:34 AM
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This sort of thing, for example.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/wythenshawe-pub-brawl-thug-adam-6675775


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59, 94: The office of mayor of London has only existed since around 2000, is not taken seriously, and has functioned so far as a sinecure for clowns.

Boris Johnson is probably reasonably smart, for whatever that's worth (nothing).


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:37 AM
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He *sounds* like he could be kind of smart.

This is a special British trick that works on former colonists. There's an entire trans-atlantic trade in journalists/TV personalities that rests on it.


Posted by: PGD | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:40 AM
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The office of mayor of London has only existed since around 2000, is not taken seriously, and has functioned so far as a sinecure for clowns.

That's not actually true. The first mayor was Ken Livingstone, who is definitely not a 'sinecure for clowns' kind of guy. And the Mayor has quite a bit of power, and controls a very large budget [in the region of $20 billion US].

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayor_of_London#Powers_and_functions


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:41 AM
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Is there still a Lord Mayor of London? That could plausibly be a sinecure.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:44 AM
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re:101

Yes, there is still a Lord Mayor. Very different role.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Mayor_of_London


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:49 AM
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101: there is still a Lord Mayor of the City of London. (The City of London is, of course, different from the large city called "London".) This is largely but not exclusively a sinecure. He has a fantastic official hat, arranges a large and extravagant parade every year, and acts as a sort of chief lobbyist and spokesman for the London business community, especially the financial and shipping bits of it. He is elected by the members of the Livery Companies - ie the Worshipful Companies of Mercers, Goldsmiths, Tallow Chandlers, Wax Chandlers, Salters, Ironmongers, Gardeners, Lightmongers, Security Professionals, Air Navigators etc.


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Well, yeah. As a child I was schooled on the fact that the Mayor of London was not the kind of mayor I was used to.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:51 AM
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pwned, but I added more bizarre ceremonial detail.


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104: it used to be, back in the eighteenth century or so. Back then the Lord Mayor used to call out the troops to suppress outbreaks of riot. With grapeshot.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:54 AM
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Part of the problem is that a lot of people haven't adapted to the idea that the mayor is important yet. Turnout in mayoral elections is pretty poor. National-level media doesn't cover city hall politics, local-level media tends to concentrate on the boroughs, and the Evening Standard is known as the Evening Boris.

Arguably, all the post-2000 mayors were elected because they offered the chance to annoy the Very Serious People in one way or another. Labour considered putting up Alan Sugar last time, and the depressing thing is that he might have won.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 5:59 AM
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107: I don't think you can argue that we've got a problem with the Mayor of London not having a high enough media profile. The London Assembly, definitely. (I certainly can't name my MLA offhand.)


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 6:02 AM
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National-level media doesn't cover city hall politics, local-level media tends to concentrate on the boroughs, and the Evening Standard is known as the Evening Boris.

Yeah, for the last two years or more of his mayorship (-dom?-hood?-alty?), the Standard was basically engaged in all-out war against Livingstone.


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You're all playing this, I assume.

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 6:34 AM
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110: and there goes my newly recovered productivity.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 6:47 AM
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I'm glad to see our GMT+0 contingent is not defining entitled deviancy down.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:27 AM
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Actually, the game in 110 kinda sucks. Because turning the squares into realistic photos somehow causes a bigger cognitive load to have to go into just figuring out which image is which than if they're numbers or colorful animated cartoony things, which makes it harder to get into the game's rhythm.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:31 AM
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Actually, as of Sunday we're the GMT +1 contingent.


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:34 AM
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113: Probably it'd just take a longer period of familiarization to turn the various Cumberbatchen into symbols you could handle at high speed.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:37 AM
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I don't think you can argue that we've got a problem with the Mayor of London not having a high enough media profile

The mayor doesn't; Boris does.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:41 AM
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I'm GMT +2.


Posted by: real ffeJ annaH | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:41 AM
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116: so did Ken. Maybe less positive (thanks to the Evening STandard) but you can't say that he didn't get plenty of coverage!


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 04- 3-14 7:52 AM
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