I don't see the Emery Go Round as being much like the tech buses. They're both business-funded, I suppose, but the EGR is free and intended for the public.
The tech money really is replacing generations of Latino families with young, rich, (mostly) white (mostly) men. I think this bubble will burst in the next year or so, and a lot of those people will leave, but the disruption has already happened. So it goes, but I would be angry at seeing my neighborhood destroyed, too.
WHAT YOU NEED IS SOME SORT OF SYSTEM TO STOP PEOPLE FROM ONE COMMUNITY MOVING INTO AN AREA DOMINATED BY ANOTHER. I HAVE SOME IDEAS THAT I'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU.
Thanks for caring, but I'm at home puking and not in Oakland.
Whoops! And now I'm on my iPad and it's not easy to fix. Others?
"Squirrel Hill Puker" would work for a fix.
God I am so into this. It's like someone took my unwritten (but found in fragmentary form in blog comments here) long-form essay "Ogre From Revenge of the Nerds: Progressive Hero" and made it operational. It's hard to be a theorist of the present time, but that is what I have become.
I like that you think crustpunks are your progressive allies, Mr. First-against-the-wall Halford. Also I was talking to [ SOOBC ] about how fascinatingly unrecognizable the new-school SFBA tech people are to us nerds of the old school (while allowing that the current mishigas may be, in some sense, our fault).
If the barfers could petition Google to bus my coworkers into SF from down South, that would be just dandy.
"I don't know how you accidentally stumble into a cockfighting rally."
10,12: Maybe this time we'll get it right.
Say what you like about Detroit, but I bet they're all really grateful that they haven't been overrun by young rich white guys moving in to work in the area's vibrant tech industry.
A nice thing near us: I guess to get people to consider downtown part of the neighborhood, someone funded a free shuttle through downtown Oakland up to...well, it's hard to categorize where it ends. Up to the neighborhood that is part high-rises for young yups, part eerily empty Car Repair District, and then the corner of our, uh, inburb? (I know the /b/ there is a back formation like "chocoholic" but I'm vaguely amused with inburb as a way to describe a residential pocket within the city.)
16: if only 15 had talked about Detroit's exburbs.
Also ugh. As Emma Goldman said, "if I have to puke, I don't want to be part of your revolution."
Do you suppose the action was called a "boot and rally"?
I don't think we should reject "supraurb" as an urban geography term of art just because it's a terrible word.
You mean "ultraurb", the villain in Avengers 2.
Villain in Avengers 2, member of Elon Musk's infosec team, or both?
San Francisco is turning into a broburb.
Some towns in Yorkshire are rhubarburbs.
Thanks to recent legal developments, both Seattle and Boulder are now herburbs.
It's not sprawl. It's brobdingnagiburbs.
I feel like "meeting with Elon Musk's infosec team" should be a euphemism for a sex act, but which one?
I am reading a conversation about happiness on fb including things about how happiness is a choice. How nice for everyone.
young yups
What's the name for this process, where initialisms or acronyms become words themselves and then get modified with terms that're already part of the original acronym?
I liked the link to forced rhubarb. Thanks.
Right now I'm writing propaganda for public-private partnerships. Kill me now.
31 back formation again, I'd say. There's some common example but I'm forgetting it. In this case, to me "yuppies" denotes people who were yuppies when the term yuppie got born (80s, we would say?), so non-young, hence the specifier.
I've drank enough fluids without puking that I can pee like a Penn student.
I thought back-formation was when you took words and decomposed them in anetymological ways, like pease indefinite becoming peas plural. Is there a specific word for 31, besides just neologism? Re-formation?
The common example is "ATM Machine".
I guess "Ohio River" is somewhat similar. Or at least it will be for the few hours until teo shows up to tell me how I am wrong.
It's very common for geographical features, and particularly hydronyms, to become lexicalized. So I'd say yes, it's somewhat similar, but more understandable since an acronym should be more decomposable than a word from another language.
For that matter, the Allegheny River is the same way. (Although to the Iroquois, the Allegheny was part of the Ohio--and is still signed as such on the Allegany Indian Reservation--and our name for it comes from the Lenape.) The first Old World example I could find are the cluster of Eastern European rivers starting with D (Danube, Don, Dniestr, etc.) that all derive from PIE *dānu, which Wikipedia says is a term for river or possibly a river goddess from a root word being "flowing". (Aren't Rhine & Rhone similar?)
The Ohio Ohio River State University of Ohio and Ohio's Ohio River.
Oh look, Wikipedia's got a list of tautological place names. (Sadly my go-to - Torpenhow Hill, aka "Hill hill hill hill" - is apparently apocryphal.)
40: Which is on the Olentangy which apparently has the same property: It was originally called keenhongsheconsepung, a Delaware word literally translated as "stone for your knife stream", based on the shale found along its shores.
41: the go-tos for me have always been "The El Alhambra Inn" (real, as far as I know, but no longer existing) and "Maison de la Casa House" (fake, of course).
39: Should I bring Stewart's Names on the Land to the next meetup so we can geek out in the corner? (It did not escape my attention that you used "dissected plateau" for Pittsburgh topography the other day, apparently innocent of my tiresome pedantry on the subject.)
41: Which does not include the Ohio.
In LA we have the the tar tar pits.
39: Sounds fun to me! I am nothing if not a geography geek. Looking forward to pedantry to tire all pedants.
err, 44.
Disappointed that I didn't find any "Lago Lake" but I did find a "Reserve at Loch Lake."
"Maison de la Casa House"
I love Calvin Trillin so much.
Fro some reason these are reminding me of the time we were skiing with friends at Lake Tahoe and their son came up excitedly and asked if we could go fishing later in Lake Vista.
I've drank enough fluids without puking that I can pee like a Penn student
It's esprit de l'escalier at this point, but that incident puts the Penn back in "spend a penny".
There are several Vista View Estates.
What's the word for place names that contain within them the forces that created the features for which they are named? State College and College Station certainly fit this category, but I'm also thinking of e.g. Westlake Village in California where the only reason there is a lake and any resemblance to a village is that somebody named that spot on the map "Westlake Village".
44: It has not escaped my attention that you two make an adorable couple on several fronts, though your wives may disagree. Or agree too quickly? Forget I brought this up.
55: Somebody come up with a joke involving Wanker's Corner. I'm too busy watching the Red Sox home opener working.
56: Is this what it feels like to be shipped?
FWIW, my wife has decided (or at least has claimed) to actively ignore Unfogged, as she sees it as "my thing." Which gives me more license to be stupid. Blissful, wonderful stupidity.
My dad walked the Olentangy banks for 25 years on his lunch breaks. Chemical Abstracts Service, where he worked, is right up against it.
For some reason it's the Franklin County waterway I've had the least to do with. I have stories about Scioto, Darby, Alum, but not Olentangy, however close I lived to it.
53: Pretend I got the tags right.
I just today, sent an internal email where I did <i> rather than italicizing some text. The email software did not helpfully italicize it for me (nor does gmail per a quick test).
56, 59.
My wife would read my posts here, 8 years ago when I was active and not doing much else. She thought I put too much effort into the comments and was too elliptical and hard to follow. She had definite opinions about some of the personalities.
She posts now at a blog, a forum actually, and her stuff is invariably well-written and well-received.
59.1: It would be if I hadn't been teasing, I suppose! Sorry. (Though Stormcrow gave me a book, too. I suspect it's his MO for luring people into more Pittsburgh meetups.)
Lee mostly calls this "your stupid internet friend place" but she doesn't bring it up much anymore.
56: Half you age plus seven rule violation. As long as we're blowing up the sanctity of all off blog whatever violations
I thought everybody agreed to go along with sqrt(age) + 12; no?
63.1: I suspect it's his MO for luring people into more Pittsburgh meetups.
Sure. Since everything else about them sucks. And I ain't *giving* young Dal my freaking copy of Stewart.
65: Just because James Franco clearly did doesn't mean we all did, right?
66: I assumed someday you'd want your hilarious book back and I'd have to drive back out there!
I thought the rule of book lending was that you never really expect to get it back. But if that was a ruse to get Thorn to come upriver without a paddle (unless you want to go kayaking or something), I support that.
68: Nah, it's yours to keep--I think you are the perfect family for it*. But drive back out anytime, anyway.
*Theoretically, that particular book was used to help teach kids to read in an elementary school in the Bronx up through the the mid-1980s.
What I've been really trying to do this whole time is think of another example of an acronym that is sometimes used with one of its component words extraneously spelled out.
Ok, this place advertises "Military MRE Meals."
Actually, I think as of today both Nia and Selah can be considered pre-adoptive placements rather than just foster, so I'll have increased flexibility to do whatever the hell I want as their almost-parent. I'd been tentatively planning trips to Columbus and Cleveland, but maybe I should add Pittsburgh too. Meetups with toddlers are probably not as much fun, but that might be the best I can do these days. We've already planned for Buffalo for June, but may try traveling one weekend a month through the summer or something. At some point, Selah will have to get used to being in her car seat for a long time, poor thing.
It's not a big thing, and I guess adds clarity, but I think Military MREs would cover it.
Here's someone offering LEED Design, although perhaps not entirely fair as the head noun is the L. (Also, way more LEED buildings in Pittsburgh than I realized. By which I mean two. Or way more active enviro-Wikipedians in Pittsburgh than I realized, anyway.)
I'm still not puking, but I feel bad. Not own the Washington football team bad, but worse than writing for the Colbert report.
DSW seems to have become DSW Shoe Warehouse. But I guess that's more like the whole GNU thing.
"ATM Machine" (mentioned above) and "PIN Number" are the classic examples of this phenomenon, in addition to the various geographic names people have pointed to.
Also "OPEC Countries," although that one's a little different because it usually has a slightly different meaning from the acronym used alone.
"SAT test" seems to get used fairly regularly.
Huh, I know one of the people on this list. It probably won't be difficult to figure out which one.
I'm glad to see this thread has not rehashed the political economy of urban planning in the modern world via puking.
"PIN Number" and "SAT test." Dammit, I knew there were good ones out there but could not think of any. Great, now I have low self-esteem and won't able to face doing the taxes.
If this is the kind of geography thread, is there a simple tool that will draw you a circle on a map - preferably something like google maps or open street map - showing everything within a given radius?
91: This'll do it. I wish that was a default feature of Google, as it's something that I do in an ad hoc fashion pretty often. I'd also really like something that would do it with a different metric, like distance or driving time on streets.
http://www.freemaptools.com/radius-around-point.htm
Ack, that doesn't tell you what the radius is. That's somewhat less useful, I'll see if I can find something better.
This is awkward to use, but it lets you specify the radius numerically.
Mapumental.com will do travel time isochrone maps, but I think it only covers the UK
Thanks. 93 basically does what I'm looking for.
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Yackety Sax dubbed over ravers dancing at an outdoor music festival. Worth watching through the first 16 bars at least.
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50: Calvinn Trillan's food writing really is the best.
Mr. Robot (should that just become Mr. Roboto, for extra awesomeness) has no interest in having anything to do with Unfogged, but he does correct me every time I refer to "my imaginary Internet friends" by saying, "But they're not imaginary!"
I have the same conversation, but the boyfriend says, "But they're not imaginary. I've met some of them." I haven't yet explained that the rest are balding 47 year olds in their mothers' basements or sockpuppets.
I just hire a guy to play me at meet ups.
He's up for a supporting role in a new sitcom. If he gets it, I'll have to find a new guy.
My girlfriend had a great phrase for Unfogged the other day, but I don't think I remember the exact quote. After I introduced her to the Benedict Cumberbatch & otters 2048 game and she asked how I ever found such a thing and I told her it was here, she said something like "oh right, your friends are all expert seekers of internet whimsy."
I just ran into this: http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/04/06/anti-tech-protesters-target-google-ventures-partner-kevin-rose/
I've been wondering what the protesters really want -- other than for people to go live somewhere else -- and this article answers the question: there's a demand that Google pay $3 billion to "the anarchist group of our choosing."
I'm glad that's now cleared up.
Quit harshing my mellow, Carp, I wants me some free housing.
"This money will then be used to create autonomous, anti-capitalist, and anti-racist communities throughout the Bay Area and Northern California. In these communities, whether in San Francisco or in the woods, no one will ever have to pay rent and housing will be free."
They'll need lawyers and cops in the woods, right?
That sounds totally reasonable to me.
In a similar vein, am I completely ethically and politically inconsistent to be an anarchist who hates tax cheats? It would be one thing if people wanted to collectively engage in tax avoision for some positive social purpose, like stopping a war or whatever. But for relatively well-to-do people to refuse to pay their fair share just because they are greedy doesn't seem to embody much community spirit or compassion for others.
PS The reason that I am awake at 3:09 and will be leaving the house before 5:00 am is tax cheats.
It's very common for geographical features, and particularly hydronyms, to become lexicalized.
Indeed - Britain has several River Avons ("afon" = "river").
am I completely ethically and politically inconsistent to be an anarchist who hates tax cheats?
No; it's the general anti-dickishness principle at work.
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NMM2 Mickey Rooney. Did anybody know he was still alive? (Be honest.)
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It's reasonable to hate anybody who makes you get up at 3.09, and it's extra reasonable to hate tax cheats because they cost you money and they cost people who can't afford it money. But why do they make you keep antisocial hours? Do you have to go to an airport to arrest them before they leave the country or something?
I had to cab over to their rental house (in a MUCH fancier neighborhood than I live in) to get them into the cab and pay with the corporate credit card, because they got SO FUSSY about our plan to have a very nice volunteer drive them to the airport at 5:30 am that it was easier just to get a cab, but the cab company wouldn't take my credit card over the phone, so I had to be there in person. This wasn't directly related to the tax cheating aspect, but it was brought up at the same time (the last minute) so that it made things incredibly stressful yesterday. Thus, not getting any sleep due to anxiety. Jerks.
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