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That seems like the opposite of specialising.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 3:23 PM
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Huevos rancheros on a bagel and fried in bacon grease?


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:06 PM
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Allow me to be the first to throw my people under the bus. (Kapo K-sky, reporting for duty.) Bagels and lox spread, sure, but kosher deli style broadly just sounds like blintzes and heavy unappetizing omelettes. I don't mind it once in a while, but I'd take Mexican over it nine times out of ten.

I don't know that I've ever had a great Southern breakfast, but I'm assuming grits and biscuits & gravy are the essentials? Throw in a cobbler and I could be persuaded.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:23 PM
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I'm not sure I'm very reverse snobbery.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:27 PM
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Kosher deli is a candidate for best BREAKFAST? I don't even know what that would be.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:53 PM
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Lox and bagels and latkes, she said.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:55 PM
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5: Hot pastrami on rye.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 4:58 PM
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I'm very inconsistent in my snobbery, but I do like shorts, and only just found this http://www.poetrylibrary.edu.au/poets/murray-les/the-dream-of-wearing-shorts-forever-0560145.


Posted by: conflated | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:01 PM
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3.2: You're forgetting fried chicken and waffles.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:01 PM
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Fried chicken's not a breakfast thing, though.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:04 PM
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I see it at buffet brunches here. Maybe DC is odd.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:05 PM
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I'm actually pretty uninformed on what constitutes southern brunches. So I'll believe it.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:07 PM
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I guess Pittsburgh is not the world hotbed of Jewish delis, but it did have at least two when I lived there (both now closed) and I don't think they even had breakfast. They might not have had bagels, either. The "deli" and "bagel place" concepts are separate to me.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:07 PM
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The "deli" and "bagel place" concepts are separate to me.

As they are in general, what with the meat/dairy thing. I presume the place in Dallas won't actually be kosher.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:09 PM
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My family always has a big spread of assorted smoked and pickled fish, and onions, and super crusty bread and/or bagels when there's a group of us gathered, so I think of that as being Jewish Breakfast, but I don't really know.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:11 PM
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Fried chicken and waffles is totally a breakfast food. Also a late-night post-drinking food. Really, it's any anytime food.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:12 PM
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As they are in general, what with the meat/dairy thing.

I don't follow. Why can't you have bagels anywhere?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:12 PM
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4: Yeah. Good stuff is better than shitty stuff. which I must note, is not the same as saying "you get what you pay for".


Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:12 PM
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Why can't you have bagels anywhere?

You can, but they're usually served with cream cheese or other dairy-based toppings.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:14 PM
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I don't even know what that would be.

Hash and eggs. DUH. Here's the menu for Saul's in Berkeley, which has good breakfasts. Kosher deli is also the easiest to do low-carb without completely bastardizing the food, so points for that. But I have nothing bad to say about Mexican or Southern breakfasts. Both delicious and decadent in their own way.

Who does the worst breakfast food? Some Nordic pickled toast dish? South American rodent crepes? Dunno.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:16 PM
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The Breakfast to Other Food quality ratio has to be lowest in Italy.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:19 PM
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I just find food very unappealing in the morning.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:23 PM
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21: Depends on what you like for breakfast. There is good coffee, and good pastries are easy to find. If you want something big and heavy, Italy is the wrong place.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:24 PM
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good pastries are easy to find. If you want something big and heavy

ZOMG, false dichotomy.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 5:30 PM
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Thai breakfast isn't terribly exciting. It's just... soup! Like you would have any other time. Except served in the morning.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:05 PM
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As they are in general, what with the meat/dairy thing.

In my experience, delis serve both bagel set ups (with cream cheese) and pastrami sandwiches at all hours. Maybe there's a distinction between kosher and kosher-style?

It occurred to me once that although fish + dairy is not a common combination, lox + cream cheese is kind of the kosher cheeseburger.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:17 PM
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IMO, Israeli breakfasts (bread, hummus, salad made from cucumbers, yogurt) are great!


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:27 PM
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Maybe there's a distinction between kosher and kosher-style?

Yeah, that's probably it.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:35 PM
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Who does the worst breakfast food?

United Airlines.


Posted by: torrey pine | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:36 PM
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Airlinist.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:39 PM
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I believe that the first breakfast I cooked in the new year, or one of the first, or one of the last I cooked in the past year, was duck breast and kasha. That was pretty good. The key here is not to be too rigid about what constitutes "breakfast".


Posted by: | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:44 PM
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You can buy breakfast pizza at various gas stations in Nebraska.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:47 PM
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31 That really isn't breakfast.

To all the Kosher breakfast haters - bagels, some chopped onion, capers, and a shitload of various sorts of smoked fish, with some ice cold vodka. A very nice, if rather expensive and rest-of-day killing breakfast.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:54 PM
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Leave out the vodka and I'm right there with you.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:56 PM
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And I really should finish reading the comments before I reply. But Heebies family is missing the essential starch based accompaniment for smoked and pickled fish.


Posted by: teraz kurwa my | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:57 PM
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I guess I like some breakfasts as special, going out for a meal breakfasts, but I think of good breakfasts more generally as foods I can eat repeatedly, day in and day out, without getting tired of them.

Unrelatedly, I don't eat breakfast often.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 6:59 PM
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We've gotten over it, but the tension in my marriage caused by the fact that I wake up immediately starving, while Buck is nauseated until around noon, was serious. He spent the first couple of years we were dating choking down food he didn't want and feeling ill, because I thought of a large, solid, protein-heavy breakfast as something that everyone obviously wants.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:09 PM
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I don't understand how breakfast non-eaters function. I would die, or at least never become fully conscious, if I tried to start the day without a reasonable meal.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:10 PM
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I am LB. I mean, I'm like that about every meal, but breakfast in particular I cannot skip.

LB and I probably have the same gut flora.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:16 PM
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I'm a no breakfast person, I just have no appetite for solid food until I've been up at least 3 hours or so.


Posted by: Asteele | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:16 PM
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Speaking of breakfast and pickled things, more cities should follow New Orleans' lead and include pickled green beans (instead of lame celery) in every bloody mary. So delicious.


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:22 PM
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39.2: the original meetups were more "human centipede" than Fresh Salt


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:24 PM
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41: you clearly didn't have a Bloody Mary while you were out here. Pickled vegetables are par for the course; shrimp and bacon are, while not yet standard, increasingly common.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:27 PM
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I'm generally ok not eating until 1 or so, though I try to eat before or at noon. Occasionally, I can go even later but only if I'm concentrating on something else. I can't eat immediately after waking up, but give me an hour and I'm fine. It's just that if I'm not still home after that hour then I probably won't go out of my way to get breakfast.

I've run into problems a few times when I've been out with people and really wanted to have lunch and everyone else has had breakfast and is in no hurry to eat.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:37 PM
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I'm with Asteele. Wake up at 5:30 tomorrow morning, go to exercise from 6-7, come home, shower, get kids to daycare, and eat breakfast around 9.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:38 PM
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I should eat something in the morning, although I often forget to, but when I think of real breakfast I think of something tucked into later at a more brunchish hour.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:40 PM
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The most common breakfast food I have, when I have access to a Chinese/Asian market, is shao bing in the form of flatbread with no stuffing (so not like the Wikipedia picture). Toast, wrap in paper towel, eat on the go.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:42 PM
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31 was me and says who it's not breakfast? It was great! Kasha is already noted as breakfast food anyway (great with maple syrup).


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 7:46 PM
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The best breakfasts is obviously Mexican. We are a breakfast-discordant household except I do enjoy it on weekends if it's around 10 or 11. For a while I was in the habit of getting a bagel on the way to my hated job in SF because there was a place right there, but it was just because a buttery million calorie bagel was some kind of consolation for the drudgery of the next few hours. Why are bagels supposedly so caloric anyway? They're just bread.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:18 PM
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Questions about why bread is unhealthy? Good god, do you want Halford to troll this thread too?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:19 PM
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Also sometimes when it was bleak November in my soul and I felt like stepping in the street and knocking men's heads off, I would get a fritter, and the first few bites were full of healing and by the end I felt truly ill.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:19 PM
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I'm willing to troll Italian pastries. I know the South has at least one tasty pastry,* but I feel at least in Northern Italy they got so smug about gelato and tiramisu they just forgot to come up with any sort of tasty sweet carbohydrate. Everything is just kind of bland and dry. Also Italian bread kind of sucks.

I'm not really a breakfast person either. I usually need at least an hour and a cup of coffee before I want to digest solid food. Hangovers are the exception. I also can't eat lunch or dinner foods for breakfast. For some reason the thought of eating them before 11 am really grosses me out.

*cannolis in SF are delicious, though the credit really goes to the ricotta filling.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:27 PM
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Green salad and watery reheated rice-and-maybe-fish soup for breakfast sounds all wrong, but I found it easy to get used to because I did feel good afterwards, and I like salad & congee generally.

I'm one of very few people who actively like mooncake, so results may not generalize.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:35 PM
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Mooncake with the yoke or without? If it's the former, then mad respect but you might be unique.

I like rice, and I like porridge of all consistencies, but I hate congee. Weird how that works.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:39 PM
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52: There was some decent pastry thing I used to get in North Beach when Chinatown congee didn't appeal, but I forget what. Huge fresh biscotti slightly soft in the middle? Dipped into espresso nicely, wasn't cannoli, no idea how Italian it actually was.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:42 PM
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With yolk. With two lucky yolks! Bitter melon filling! Anything except the gritty little bits of recooked pork.

I also like fruitcake, so.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:44 PM
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I enjoyed 8. Thanks, conflated!


Posted by: Merganser | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 9:53 PM
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I actually can't think of any other contenders for best breakfast cuisine besides those mentioned in the OP.

Few things make me angrier than a "continental breakfast" -- oh awesome, here's something that will make me fat and weak and yet also not even begin to satiate hunger or allow for a productive day. Awesome.

Generally, having a huge breakfast is a great way to lose weight as long as you're not eating bagels or pancakes or whatever -- steak and eggs and coffee every morning will get you slim and keep you from eating too much during the day.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 10:04 PM
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What's a representative Indian breakfast? Chapatti and buttermilk and tea?


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 10:15 PM
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Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 10:38 PM
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That's great.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 10:55 PM
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We've been away for the weekend in a house that's clearly had huge amounts of money spent on it. E.g. every window - and there are a lot - is wooden-framed, double-glazed. Tens of thousands spent on just them. C and I were saying it would be nice to have the money to do everything *perfectly* like that.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 06-29-14 11:21 PM
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I'm about to find out what constitutes brunch in Budapest. On a boat.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 12:14 AM
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Goulash?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 12:31 AM
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re: 37

I'm a bit like that. I mean I like breakfast, but I like it around 11am. And since I am forced, first by the insane dictates of work and then by the insane dictates of a small child, to get up before 7am, I usually skip breakfast, or grab something super unhealthy in the late morning.

The full English / Scottish breakfast is pretty great. And if you skip the fried bread and/or toast, it's even fairly Halfordismo compliant.

Black pudding, sausages [or steak lorne, for preference], bacon, eggs, white-pudding [if the savages have it], some beans. Strong tea or coffee.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 3:46 AM
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The worst breakfast is anything involving breakfast cereals (oatmeal excepted).


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 3:47 AM
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I don't understand how breakfast non-eaters function. I would die, or at least never become fully conscious, if I tried to start the day without a reasonable meal.

Shitloads of coffee and an early lunch. I love a good (ie fried/grilled) breakfast, but not during the week.

Anyway, generic "American" diner breakfasts are clearly the best. Take your pick from pancakes, waffles, French toast (way better than the fried bread Brits make), hash browns, eggs however you want them. The only problem is the lack of English style sausages, but it's more than made up for in other departments.

That said, in the breakfast-to-other food stakes, I think the Dutch have to be near the top of the table. Poffertjes and flensjes are spectacular breakfast foods.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 4:07 AM
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The hotel I was at in the Lake District provided us with the option of a full English breakfast every morning. Weirdly, I was the only one who took them up on it every day. Everybody else was all "oh I will eat healthy and have some fruit and cereal" or whatever. Fools! More black pudding for me!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 5:39 AM
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65.2 is correct. Sausages, bacon, a couple of fried eggs, baked beans and toast with strong tea does it for me every time. Of course I immediately want to go back to bed, as all the blood in my body surges to my stomach, but damn if it isn't delicious.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 6:09 AM
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I'm going to have chocolate chip cookies and coffee for breakfast this morning. But I'm traveling and compared to what I've had for the past few days, this is health food.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 6:12 AM
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I usually eat breakfast only on weekends, unless coffee counts as breakfast.

Consequently, I do like to eat lunch right at noon, as in, "get resentful if an 11am meeting goes long."

I'm in sympathy with 67's attitude, though: on weekends I'm perfectly happy to go Full Whomever-ish Breakfast: bacon, sausages, pancakes, omelettes, bagels, dim sum, pastry, hash browns... Whatever ya got.

For a full-out carb and meat breakfast fest I've enjoyed Founding Farmers in DC and environs. It doesn't really have an ethnic marker, unless "stuffed" is an ethnicity.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 6:33 AM
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64: Yeah, it turns out the brunch menu at this place is just... their dinner menu. Nothing I really wanted to eat in the morning. Most people ordered dessert. I got some kind of chicken noodle soup. Meh.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 8:26 AM
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This is my once-every-fifteen-years died-and-went-to-heaven splurge breakfast menu, all washed down with a milk punch. A close second would be this, with maybe a Mexican mocha instead of the cocktail. Neither of those are anything remotely like what I might do for breakfast on an average weekday, though.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 9:08 AM
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My German FIL is well-traveled but fundamentally parochial, and very happy to be living in Germany again. However, the one thing he really misses is American breakfast. He has blueberry pancakes probably 3 or 4 times every 10 day trip he makes to the States.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:11 AM
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73. The recommended wines for breakfast is a nice touch, but those are not Eggs Benedict. Eggs Benedict are served on toasted English muffin(s), not rusk.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:18 AM
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75: Fair enough, but OMG, the sauce.


Posted by: Stranded in Lubbock | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:29 AM
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I have never before seen the word "rusk" used, except when reading an old novel. (Most recently an old translation of Oblomov.)


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:33 AM
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Rusks in England are/were small toasts that you give babies to nom on while they're teething.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:35 AM
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Kurt Wallander is always eating rusks. I didn't know what they were either. Apparently it means zwieback. This underscored his austere lifestyle in my eyes.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:48 AM
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Yeah, those look like the things you give babies to teeth on.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:52 AM
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ttaM, where does the small grilled half tomato come in? Tourist tat? A constant in my grandparents' time in Great Britain, and my parents', and mine. If one includes apologies for it not being there, in the decade after the war.

Also, kedgeree/kitchhri (since I have learned I like rice-fish messes for breakfast): absent, rare, hotel buffet food, or a Tory-poisoned Kipling reference?


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:53 AM
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81.2. Rare and upmarket hotel food. Only seen it once or twice in the last ten years. Delicious though.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 10:56 AM
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Friend of mine regularly makes kedgeree, but for tea rather than breakfast. And not for me. (Yet.)

I love a cooked tomato with my breakfast.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 3:11 PM
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ttaM, where does the small grilled half tomato come in? Tourist tat?

Not really, but probably more likely to be found in a restaurant/caff than on a breakfast table. That said, I will very occasionally pop a vine of cherry tomatoes in the frying pan briefly after I've taken out the eggs.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 3:29 PM
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Mmm. Fried tomatoes with an egg breakfast are one of those rare moments where you're simultaneously making the meal healthier and more indulgent.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 06-30-14 3:35 PM
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