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It's illegal to fire somebody because they won't explain to your satisfaction why you won't sleep with them, right?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:34 PM
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Everything on Valleywag is horrifying, but I don't have a good sense of to what extent it's representative of Silicon Valley culture; I guess they're picking only the tail of the outrageousness distribution?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:41 PM
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Although when I was in Palo Alto a month ago I was eavesdropping on people at a neighboring table at dinner and they were perfect stereotypes. It was wonderful.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:41 PM
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Harassment sure is repetitive.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:48 PM
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Probably a sign of deep moral failing that my primary response is jealousy at the sweet fee the plaintiff's lawyer will collect. I want a new car damn it!


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:48 PM
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4: To be fair, emotional supportiveness is also very repetitive.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:50 PM
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5: I was just enjoying how the comments at the link are also full of people cackling over what a great case this is for the plaintiff's attorney. GLEE!


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 1:50 PM
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Who's the gentleman?


Posted by: L. | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 2:18 PM
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I think he's just playing the odds.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 2:37 PM
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2: There is a giant vast swathe of the industry that is absolutely nothing like what you read on Valleywag. Most of the people working here are boring-ass people going to boring-ass jobs at giant boring-ass megacorps (or boring-ass middle-sized companies, or boring-ass small companies); the startup jackasses are just the most visible portion of the industry. (I mean, when was the last time you read about Brocade or SAP on Valleywag?)

And 3 is exactly why I don't talk about work outside of work. Yes I deal with tech all day long. No I realize most people don't want to hear about it while they're trying to have a drink or a bite to eat.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 2:48 PM
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I'm curious about this guy's ethnicity. Mateen is a pretty common Iranian family name. Iranian Jews? He's from Beverly Hills, so that would fit. It would also fit with the reputation of Beverly Hills Iranians for being complete shitheads.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:09 PM
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4: To be fair, emotional supportiveness is also very repetitive.

properly fitting emotional support lifts and separates.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:12 PM
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Keep it classy, comment 11.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:26 PM
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11 ... says nothing. OTOH the Bijan Bugatti Veyron is pretty sweet.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:28 PM
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10.1: it wasn't tech talk that struck me--god knows I talk enough about physics in restaurants--it was techno-libertarian nonsense.


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:37 PM
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You LA people will have to decide if 11 is offensive or vacuous. I'll be watching the brilliant sociological study Shahs of Sunset.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:43 PM
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Are there Beverly Hills Iranian-counterparts in New York? I don't quite understand the stereotype, except insofar as I recently learned that the stereotype exists.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:47 PM
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I mean, that's racist.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 3:47 PM
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10: WELCOME TO MY FUCKING WORLD


Posted by: OPINIONATED BANKER | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:09 PM
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16: Hey, I linked to the magical Diamond Water in the other thread.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:16 PM
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Florida is not majority populated by instances of Florida Man, after all.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:16 PM
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21: Sure. Of course. Whatever you say.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:22 PM
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Are there Beverly Hills Iranian-counterparts in New York?

Wikipedia tells me they exist, but I don't know anything about them.

The stereotype of LA Iranians is that they're insular, materialistic, ostentatious, deposed-royalty-loving shitheads.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:24 PM
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11: I've had some problems with them.


Posted by: Opinionated Haman | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:43 PM
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24 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T HEAR YOU


Posted by: Opinionated Gragger | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:47 PM
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23: They generally drive very entitledly badly but at least two are very gorgeous dentists.


Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:47 PM
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I really should start picking my dentists on physical appearance. They all seem competent enough, tooth-wise, and you spent a fair amount of time looking at their face.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:50 PM
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27: So far, over many years, I'm seeing a strong correlation between attractiveness and skill with the Xylocaine syringe and drill.


Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:54 PM
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I visited the offices of an oldish tech megacorp last month and it looked horrifying in a boring way. But I just work near tech, not in it.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:55 PM
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And I say that as a pretty fundamentally boring person, who often embraces blandness.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 4:57 PM
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It isn't even sexist because I'm straight.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 5:03 PM
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My dentist is a total cutie. It makes the prospect of going more pleasant, but it hasn't actually made me go any more often.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 5:17 PM
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Aha.

They both come from wealthy Iranian Jewish families

And the opening anecdote at that link, well....


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 5:34 PM
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I'm going to pass on the obvious DDS joke.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 5:58 PM
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I used to work with an Iranian-American woman from Great Neck. Spectacular lawyer.


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 6:09 PM
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35 to 34 somehow


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 6:17 PM
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I've known a fair number of Iranian emigres like that.

Regardless, what that OP link says to me is that people go nuts sometimes over breakups, sex, and other sources of discord.

Not that that's news to anyone.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 6:31 PM
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So delightfully hateable. 33 helps, too.

I hope nobody involved writes emails as badly garbled as those texts were. I mean, I guess it makes the dudes more hateable.


Posted by: x.trapnel | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 6:49 PM
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They're even more hateable than you realize. The link in 33 barely scratches the surface.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 6:52 PM
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Is this the hate thread? Because I've got a lot of it for the Murieta protestors.


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:15 PM
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Horribleness ranking exercise for the reader:
Blackwater
UC administrators
Federalist Society
Politico
Justice Alito
Justin Mateen
Murieta protestors


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:24 PM
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Sigh. Call me Whitney! I could probably do a somewhat adequate job representing you.


Posted by: Robert Halford | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:32 PM
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Hi, Whitney!


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:35 PM
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For want of a vocative comma, a hackneyed joke was made.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:44 PM
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For want of nine minutes, nosy totally wishes he got there first.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 7:52 PM
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So these guys come from money, live in LA, and went to USC? That's a different kind of asshole stereotype.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:08 PM
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Well, per the link in 39 they appear to be not so much "tech startup guys" as "ridiculous frontmen for a fake tech startup."


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:18 PM
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Right, I was going to include that, but I'm not sure there's a stereotype for that one yet. These guys are the pioneers.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:23 PM
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39: What the hell. I'm at least as much of a dumb jerk as those guys, there's gotta be a way for me to get my hands on some sweet Silicon Valley capital.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:37 PM
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Match.com capital.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:44 PM
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Oh, they're hosted out of New York. Whatever, I'll take it. I don't even have to pretend I'm independent! Seriously, ready to sell out, and I'm probably less of a liability waiting to happen.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07- 2-14 8:48 PM
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33, 39. Suppose we organise a Kickstarter to pay for a contract on them all. What would be a reasonable target?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 1:35 AM
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Well beyond our means. We're talking about (technically) white people here.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 1:40 AM
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Speaking of Palo Alto, I'm in Palo Alto/SF in about a week and a half [15th - 19th July, approx.] if anyone fancies a meetup?

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Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 2:27 AM
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Who would have guessed that the founder of Tinder would be a dickhead?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 3:27 AM
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So Tinder is basically this? I guess we now know chris y's identity.


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 5:35 AM
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54: I'll be around then. I'm closer to Palo Alto, but I think most local commenters are near SF, so that's probably the better place to meet.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 7:06 AM
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I'm 27 miles nearer to San Francisco than Palo Alto.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 7:23 AM
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54: I was going to ask if you still had that trip scheduled. Like fa says, SF is better for meeting up than Palo Alto.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 7:51 AM
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SF is fine. I'm in Palo Alto, at a certain university there, for work. But I am free all day on the Saturday [and probably the Tuesday evening], and would be happy to travel into SF.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 7:58 AM
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Let me be the first to suggest that if this conversation were about NYC, we would probably meet at Fresh Salt.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:06 AM
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San Francisco is closer than Palo Alto to Fresh Salt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:07 AM
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at a certain university there

Mysterious!


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:13 AM
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San Francisco is closer to Cleopatra than Cleopatra is to the dinosaurs.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:31 AM
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The class of 2028 will never have known that some meetups were not at Fresh Salt.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:32 AM
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I'd be happy to attend an SF meet up, particularly if my now days long jet lag triggered migraine has finally gone away. If not, I'll have probably gnawed off my own head so won't be able to attend.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:49 AM
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Oh, hate tangent: yesterday I fulfilled the licensing requirement whereunder people applying with an out of state degree have to take 18 hours of California Law & Ethics coursework. What this looks like in practice is paying $70 to some online company, downloading a searchable 224-page document, then taking a 20-question quiz, pausing to do word searches on key phrases in the question. You have to get 70% right, and you can take it as many times as you need. $70 more dollars to get fingerprinted (was recently fingerprinted for a job, can' t use that of course!), $12 for a passport photo in which my collar is funny as it almost always is and I look old and schlubby with a double chin, $75 to Moloch in Sacramento, bang boom Bob's yer uncle, wait at least 60 days for processing, and see if I'm worthy of a title in many cases held by complete idiots.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:53 AM
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Maybe if you weren't so cheap on the passport photo, you could get one without the double chin.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:57 AM
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$12 for a passport photo

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Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:11 AM
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Wait what do they usually cost? You're talking to someone whose last passport expired in the 90s because airplanes.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:12 AM
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69: How much did you pay and how many chins do you have in the photo?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:15 AM
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I usually pay $5 per chin.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:21 AM
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Dairy Queen, I recently had great success treating a migraine with acupuncture. It wasn't a vague result at all. Go in with a migraine, walk out without a trace of one. (As compared to, this should make it go away over the next day, which might have happened anyway.). If you haven't already tried acupuncture for migraine, maybe it is worth a session?


Posted by: Megan | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:33 AM
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It's no more than a fiver here, so $8.50 or so? One and a half chins.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:33 AM
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Saturday would be better for me just because it would be easier to get to/from SF. But I could do Tuesday if that's better for everyone.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:06 AM
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Good suggestion, Megan!


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:11 AM
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Tbh, Saturday is probably better for me, anyway.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:19 AM
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I just looked and realized we can't do Saturday.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:32 AM
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In fact I could only do Tuesday or Thursday, but Bave is probably available more days than that.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:34 AM
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Or you could try sham acupuncture!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:36 AM
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Way to go and fuck-up a placebo effect, science boy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:38 AM
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Nuh uh!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:46 AM
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Fine. Just don't leave the placebo in the sun or it will spoil.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 11:50 AM
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I haven't had migraines for several decades but alas they seem to be back. Have there been any advances in medical science that would justify going to see the doctor?


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:05 PM
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I think we could do Saturday evening, just not daytime.


Posted by: Bave | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:07 PM
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Oh ok, I assumed it was more all-dayish.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:11 PM
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I could do saturday eve.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:14 PM
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Friday?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:35 PM
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86: the meetup, you mean? Checking his tour rider, it says here ttaM will be arriving at 6AM for a full Scottish breakfast; activities will continue with a 30 mile overland walk, caber tossing, seven hours of whiskey tasting, and will finish off with a twelve hour rave.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 12:56 PM
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88: Which seat will I choose?


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 1:10 PM
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89: And no brown Smarties.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 1:52 PM
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Oh, huh, I'll be in SF through the 16th.

In wine country before then.


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 2:03 PM
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Racist.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 2:04 PM
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To 91.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 2:04 PM
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I was assuming evening in a pub somewhere. I 'm just free all day, in contrast to other days.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 2:56 PM
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84
Botox!


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:08 PM
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Urple can check his porch for some cans.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:09 PM
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Fucking fire works.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:28 PM
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If your goal is severe burns, then yes, yes it does.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:29 PM
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Fucking fire doesn't require birth control. But what if it did? Fire baby ahoy.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:37 PM
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For no particular reason this put me in mind of The Bald Soprano.

The polycanders were burning in the woods
A stone caught fire
The castle caught fire
The forest caught fire
The men caught fire
The women caught fire
The birds caught fire
The fish caught fire
The water caught fire
The sky caught fire
The ashes caught fire
The smoke caught fire
The fire caught fire
Everything caught fire
Caught fire, caught fire, caught fire... etc.

She keeps reciting the poem as the Smiths push her offstage.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 9:59 PM
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Not those Smiths.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:00 PM
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Fran Lebowitz gets the last word, of course.

"The girl in your class who suggests that this year the Drama Club put on The Bald Soprano will be a thorn in people's sides all of her life." ("Tips for Teens")


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 07- 3-14 10:02 PM
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Just got a revised schedule. Free Friday evening, too.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 12:08 AM
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A hotel room is supposed to have an accessible bathroom, right? Like, one that is not locked from the inside when you first get there?


Posted by: Benquo | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 12:47 AM
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Er, yes. I'm assuming the next part of this story involves a person, inside that locked bathroom?

A friend and I once stayed at a hotel for a music event a bunch of us were playing at, and came back to our twin room after midnight to find girls in our beds. It turned out that there was a wedding party elsewhere in the hotel complex, and these girls, drunk and attractive, had persuaded the young guy on the hotel desk to give them (gratis) the key to a 'spare' room. And he'd given them the wrong key [he'd thought our room was empty].


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 3:13 AM
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Everything caught fire

Not those Smiths.

Now she knew how Joan of Arc felt?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 4:01 AM
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106. And then..?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 4:59 AM
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No "and then."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 5:17 AM
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NMM to Richard Mellon Scaife.

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Posted by: Kreskin | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 5:21 AM
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Good riddance. Happy 4th to you.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 5:23 AM
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106, 108 Did you find $5?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 6:22 AM
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I could do Saturday. I suggest (in descending order of convenience for me): Rosamunde (*), Mission Bar, Southern Pacific, Zeitgeist, or Fresh Salt.

(*) Attracts a big World Cup crowd, so this only works in the evening.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 8:24 AM
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113: the final's the week before ttaM gets here, so that's not a worry.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 8:31 AM
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If ever there was an argument for a strong estate tax. (And I say that as a beneficiary of his largess, having enjoyed the local museums. The building name after him/his mother on CMU is okay.)


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 8:34 AM
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114: Oh, I thought we were talking about next weekend.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 07- 4-14 8:35 AM
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Date math, I am bad at.


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106: No, that at least would have been interesting.


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