Re: I Will Make You Hurt



Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:56 AM
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Ogged is Mexican?

Also, drugs frighten me.

Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:59 AM
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Everything is better in Lumpy Space Princess voice.

Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:02 AM
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Drugs and Booze are a sure way to lose

Posted by: saying I learned in 5th grade D.A.R.E. | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:20 AM
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Right. Stick with booze then drugs.

Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:23 AM
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Booze makes things sticky. Wet cleans up sticky, dry cleans up wet.

Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:25 AM
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thanks ogged! I'm going to bed now to strikemope sleep. I don't even want to call my sponsor because of how this is all entirely my own doing and I should let well enough alone and let people hit bottom and this is just how you hurt people by being all coenpendent and shit, and she's going to be right. but being bummed out is like the worse reason to not call your sponsor of ever. FUCK THIS. if puppydog sent her out to cop in geylang with his money I am going to wrap his face around my elbow in the process of flailing and kicking at him in an ill-controlled and unpracticed but vicious fashion. he has plenty of money. why won't he listen to trent reznor? and me, I have good life advice? OK, like only some, but some.

Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:27 AM
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Tl;dr: don't do drugs, stay in school.

Posted by: FL | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:37 AM
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{sigh} Good luck, Al.

Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 8:54 AM
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1 and 9 get it exactly right.

That sounds awful.

Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 9:19 AM
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10 gets it exactly right. So sorry.

Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 9:37 AM
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I appreciated this post. I recently chose not to do something enabling and I haven't beaten myself up about that at all because even if I were inclined to over-help I'm really not interested in being an accessory to anything, but I got days of bitter pushback about what a meanie I am and just this little piece of assistance and even though I may not fall at the same place in the spectrum as alameida, I get not knowing what to do when there's no right answer.

Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 10:03 AM
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I have basically made a career of enabling people with only the absolute best of intentions. It really hurts to say no, like a nearly physical pain. I'm really sorry, Alameida.

Posted by: Yogi | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 11:06 AM
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now I'm only worried because she hasn't called me. she's banned (by my business partner) from my store and by my family from my house. I have to smuggle her sorry ass around.
2: RTFA. surely you know this?

Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:29 PM
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So sorry, al. I've been meaning to e-mail you, but I hate to burden you when you're struggling so much yourself right now.

Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:53 PM
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Your business partner probably wouldn't want me in your store either. I tend to walk like I'm about to fall into expensive, fragile stuff.

Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:53 PM
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Drag. A close friend's sister (who I'd only met 3 or 4 times) just succumbed to decades of addiction a couple weeks ago. Not even sure what killed her, but I know her liver was in really bad shape a year ago, so I think that might have been it. I hope your little buddy and her BF make it out of this alright, alameida. I'm not even sure I think hitting bottom is a "thing" anymore. Seems like there's always further to fall (pace The Bottle Imp) so until you're in a North Korean labor camp missing all your limbs, there should be some sense that it could always be worse and you might as well live. Nothing for it but to get really wealthy and own your own cops, I guess.

Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 7:55 PM
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Seems like there's always further to fall

I don't know, girls like that blond street pro in Breaking Bad are a real thing.

Spent some time this morning in the emergency room with a girl who needed the road rash on her ass bandaged up. She jumped out of a stolen truck while the cops were following at about 30 mph. The driver was her boyfriend of two months who she met at the sober living house. They fell off the wagon together and started using meth again. She said he'd been up for like a week and was ranting about how he wasn't going to give up and they were both going to die. She said at that point she figured she had better odds jumping out of the truck.

Went back to the ER late this afternoon with one of the heroin addicted street girls who needed all the abscesses on her legs checked out before we could book her into jail for carjacking. A couple days ago she got picked up by an undocumented hispanic guy and decided she didn't want to suck a dick for twenty bucks so she pulled out a fake police badge instead. Told the guy she was undercover and to put his wallet and phone on the dash and to get out of the car. Then she drove off in his car. She said originally bought the fake police badge as a present for her son who she hadn't seen in a while. Claimed her longest stint clean was sixteen months and then she started hanging out with other addicts and got back on the spike.

Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 9:49 PM
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Speaking of policing, this story is fascinating. Short version: a bunch of white twentysomething assholes beat up two gay guys, the cops post a surveillance video of the suspects, and a popular local sports-tweeter boosts the story, gets some leads, tracks them down on Facebook, and provides his info to the cops. "Arrests are imminent" per local reporters, and the cops' own tweets are profusely thankful for the help while cautioning that no arrests have been made and there's a lot more work to do.

Obviously this case involves a lot of complicated issues surrounding privacy, surveillance, crowdsourcing of information, etc. Offhand, I'd say one thing that stands out is that the main guy who was organizing the effort on Twitter did some major things right that other efforts at crowdsourcing information like this (e.g. by Reddit) fucked up. Most importantly, he asked for leads but once he got them did his own follow-up research and provided it to the cops without making any names or other identifying information public.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 10:17 PM
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Hugs, Al. That's horrible.

Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 10:47 PM
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My sympathies to alameida as well. That's a terrible situation to be in.

Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 09-16-14 10:59 PM
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erg, I feel better having talked about it, thanks y'all. BG you should email me anyway; I'm a slightly tardy replier sometimes but I'll for sure get back to you if I'm expecting your email. you're dealing with more dealage than me at the moment I think, honestly.
8: FL, that you, of all people, are suggesting something personal to me is too long and thus no attention should be lavished on it pains me. glass houses, etc.
17: yeah, she has family with money, but they're sick of her in a lot of ways, and then her alkie/gambling addict mom often chases her around the house with a kitchen knife, so she hides in her room and calls me and cries and freaks out. I'm supposed to not answer the phone so she'll toughen up and start being more honest in the program? I just can't not talk to her. I failed tough love class.
12 and 13--sympathies both ways!

Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-17-14 4:13 AM
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Al, I always love your posts, but I'm usually come up short when I try to say anything about them that wouldn't be construed as making light of them. So I'll just say: thanks for sharing.

Posted by: MAE | Link to this comment | 09-17-14 7:11 AM
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thanks MAE! sometimes because no one has anything to say about them I worry people don't like them but then I think they're more like short stories than jumping-off points for discussions the way heebie's are, so...

Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 09-17-14 7:53 AM
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Did you talk to your own sponsor? That sounded like that would be good.

Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 09-17-14 7:55 AM
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24: Yes. To me it seems as if you're telling stories, not asking for problem-solving, tho' I remember something about some present to be given some time back.

To be explicit, I like reading the stories even if I don't much like the situations that prompt some of them. Again, good luck.

Posted by: biohazard | Link to this comment | 09-17-14 8:52 AM
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