Re: The Hellmouth

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How long have you been there? Did you buy right away?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 12:57 PM
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The new-ish TJ's just down Chicago Ave. sells bags of organic lemons for $1.99, lazypants.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:02 PM
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When we bought our place I used MagicPlan to measure out a floor plan of the interiors by waving my iPad around the room, then FloorPlanner to make diagrams. I think all of my designs were overruled but it was fun.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:08 PM
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just down Chicago Ave

Worlds away! There's a closer one though.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:10 PM
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The new-ish TJ's just down Chicago Ave

Where my wife shops on the way home from work at NU.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:10 PM
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Your 3D link breaks my phone.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:11 PM
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Worked on my phone. You on Android (loser)?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:13 PM
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Why are you not shopping at Fresh Farms?


Posted by: Tom Scudder | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:16 PM
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iOS7. I get a message saying I need to upgrade to 8 to view. 3D but the. It locks my browser on that page, can't bring up navigation or tabs. Have to dump safari and prevent it from reloading on relaunch.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:19 PM
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We are for the big shops, in Niles. Devon is 5 minute walk from home, but she's driving.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:20 PM
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Why are you not shopping at Fresh Farms?

I think my mom shops there, but I've never been. I should check it out, but Whole Foods is closer.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:27 PM
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It locks my browser on that page

Huh. Sorry.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:30 PM
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I want credit for Redfin!


Posted by: Becks | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:37 PM
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Becks!


Posted by: LizardBreath | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:39 PM
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Redfin was totally Becks idea. They've been fabulous. We're using them on the buying and selling sides.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:44 PM
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Back at my desk now so I can see it. I need to do this for the newly renovated space (done next week hopefully) The lofts are cool even though the ceilings are just under 4 feet at the peak. It's like the half floor in Being John Malkovich.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:49 PM
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Although who puts a rug down on top of wall to wall carpeting?


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:51 PM
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It doesn't work on my laptop.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:51 PM
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I'm not tech support, people. I was just feigning concern for SP.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:52 PM
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With skin this smooth, who needs a 3D viewer.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:54 PM
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not our place

Too bad! That house has a giant bowl of lemons on the kitchen table.


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 1:56 PM
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Works just fine in Windows 7 / Chrome.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:00 PM
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The "View Dollhouse" button is cool.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:03 PM
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I suspect that what we are looking at is "WebGL" technology. Basically, 3D Graphics jonx - bringing OpenGL-like rendering to the browser, yadda yadda.

This has been promised as around the corner for some time now. Nice to see that its arrived.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:07 PM
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Since this is the tech support thread, can somebody tell me why my phone keeps losing the signal. Sometimes just data, sometimes data and voice. This happens when I am stationary, mostly on or near campus. Is our likely to be a shitty phone (four year old droid) or a shitty network (t mobile) or can't tell?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:08 PM
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Glitches aside, it's really very useful. So much of visiting a house is about figuring out how the layout feels, and this can help rule out a lot of places and save people trips to houses they won't like.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:10 PM
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shitty network (t mobile)

Based on my t mobile experience, I'm going with that option.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:14 PM
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25- The government's watching you. Or maybe you're near a Marriott.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:15 PM
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As a buyer, Redfin is awesome if you don't need (or in fact actively hate) the agent picking properties for you. AAAAA+, +1, got the rebate, would use again, etc.. Good enough that I'd look at them as a seller.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:19 PM
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I suspect that this is the harbinger of a new wave of 3D internet porn.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:20 PM
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I mixed up threads and thought we were talking about the DVD kiosks in supermarkets and didn't realize you could buy and sell discs in addition to renting for $1/night.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:34 PM
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if you don't need (or in fact actively hate) the agent picking properties for you

Exactly. You leave them alone, they leave you alone. Click a button, they meet you at a house you want to see. Aces.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:43 PM
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27: It's cheaper than Verizon or AT&T.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 2:49 PM
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I just signed up with t-mobile. Am I going to regret it?


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 3:40 PM
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Going with t-mobile has saved me enough over my other options at the time that I'm ok with the spotty coverage. It would be a problem if it didn't cover where I've worked/lived.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 4:19 PM
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Apple Built A SIM Card That Lets You Switch Between AT&T, Sprint, And T-Mobile


Posted by: apostropher | Link to this comment | 10-16-14 6:09 PM
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Over here T-mobile coverage was crap, so they cut a deal with another carrier (Orange) to use each other's networks. Which is reasonably good. Is that similar to 36?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 3:47 AM
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We have t-mobile. They seem to have cut enough deals that we can always get cell coverage, aside from certain stretches of west Texas and Wyoming, but there's a lot of places where you don't get non-roaming data.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 5:30 AM
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Rural Nebraska is also surprisingly light on competing carriers. I can deal with that because I have enough roaming data to check email and here.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 5:35 AM
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There is no mobile phone reception whatsoever where my parents live. You can drive six miles to the top of a hill and catch a distant signal. Naturally, they don't have cell phones. Twice yesterday they needed to call me from an airport to notify me of flight delays and were flummoxed because there were no pay phones anymore. The assumption (mostly warranted, I suppose) is that anyone with the means to travel by air carries a phone with them. In both cases a nice person let them make a call from their mobile, but even that courtesy isn't always available in the age of smart phones (I for one would be very reluctant to hand mine over to a stranger).



Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 5:47 AM
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A complete stranger asked to use my phone one morning. I was just walking down the sidewalk. I said no, partially because she looked a bit meth-y and partially because she was so abrupt about it. She was offended.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 5:51 AM
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Apple Built A SIM Card That Lets You Switch Between AT&T, Sprint, And T-Mobile

Alternatively, Apple have built a SIM card that locks you into their ecosystem.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 5:58 AM
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I'm not thrilled about a situation where I have to choose between rooting for Apple and rooting for the carriers. Its like Yankees vs. Red Sox.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 7:56 AM
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I wouldn't mind Apple's new system if it was backed by a regulatory framework guaranteeing openness and portability, so that it would be basically like having an unlocked phone, but as far as I can tell it isn't.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 7:59 AM
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It seems like its basically taking what is effectively an open standard, and making it an Apple standard. Microsoft used to pull similar shit, back in the day.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:06 AM
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Are you saying I should get a Windows phone as the least evil option?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:14 AM
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I don't understand 42. If you decide to leave the Apple ecosystem, can't you just get another SIM card from your wireless provider for a couple bucks (if that)?


Posted by: potchkeh | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:29 AM
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T-mobile is what I have and works fine where I am most of the time or in any city anywhere but if you are ever outside of an urban environment or even on the fringes of one you or at least I have no coverage whatsoever which makes it a pretty bad option if you like to do things like e.g. go camping from time to time which I do and I almost always have absolutely zero signal and I'm almost always the only person in that position unless other t-mobile users are around but it's less-expensive enough than other carriers to make up for that.


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:32 AM
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A guy I've never seen before appeared at the kitchen door, not ringing the bell at the front of the house, looked startled to see me and asked if I knew somebody called Tom Jones.

Straw poll - If I hadn't been there would he

- have gone away;
- have knocked to see if Tom Jones was in;
- have broken in?

|>


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:37 AM
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49: It's not unusual to be broken in by anyone.


Posted by: dalriata | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:38 AM
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You could shoot him if you were in Florida.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:38 AM
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I don't know why he looked startled. It's not unusual.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:38 AM
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50: Heh.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:40 AM
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I don't understand 42. If you decide to leave the Apple ecosystem, can't you just get another SIM card from your wireless provider for a couple bucks (if that)?

In principle, yes - like I say, if this is backed up by a good regulatory framework then it's not a problem. But if carriers and/or Apple are allowed to lock people in, then this facilitates that enormously.

In the current marketplace, too, it's only going to be a mild inconvenience (though more than existed previously). But if this approach becomes the norm, even with good regulation then you won't be able to get another SIM card because there won't be SIM cards.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:45 AM
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Alex may have some useful thoughts on the matter.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:46 AM
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T-mobile has odd deadspots in the Bay Area along the Peninsula.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 8:51 AM
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In NYC, there are t-mobile deadspots on either side of the East River at 42nd. Which was frustrating for me because I lived on one side and worked on the other.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 9:01 AM
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49 - broken in.


Posted by: asilon | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 9:53 AM
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49: He was certainly born to be hanged.


Posted by: lourdes kayak | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 10:26 AM
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58. I think so too. Mildly disconcerting.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 10:38 AM
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You might want to mention it to the neighbors.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 10:41 AM
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Yes,


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-17-14 10:51 AM
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50 is excellent.


Posted by: Sir Kraab | Link to this comment | 10-19-14 8:16 AM
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And today we receive a circular from the local constabulary saying that there has been a spate of burglaries in the area and asking people to report any suspicious behaviour.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-20-14 11:03 AM
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Well, at least you have something to say.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-20-14 11:05 AM
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So I said it. That, I imagine, is the last I'll hear of it.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-21-14 2:56 AM
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55: The problem here is that in Apple's approach, you may be relying on the carrier you're leaving to facilitate your leaving them, which is obviously not in their interests.

GSM (and UMTS, and LTE) provisioning works by generating an IMSI number, which identifies a subscriber and links them to a billing record and a phone number, then binding that to an IMEI number, the unique identifier baked into your phone, and using some crypto between those two and key material in the SIM and the network to make a once-only identifier, a TMSI, every time your device logs on to the network (this last step is needed for privacy reasons, so nobody expect the NSA and AT&T and their Israeli or Russian billing outsourcer and Chinese network equipment manufacturer and the News of the World can monitor your traffic).

So there's a whole little crypto dance that has to happen a) when you join some carrier, generating an IMSI number, linking it to a phone number and a billing file, binding that to an IMEI, and registering an encryption key on the SIM. Then, there's a second dance that happens when you come up on the network, generating a TMSI, authenticating it, registering in the visitor location register for call routing, and updating anything that needs to change on the SIM.

A big question is how, precisely, Apple has implemented this. One way would be on-the-fly, over-the-air provisioning - when you flip the switch, Network B is informed to provision IMSI xxxx on, IMSI xxxx gets relinquished by Network A and Network A's keymat gets scrubbed from your device, which then does the dance described above for Network B, which knows you're coming and sends an over-the-air SIM update with its stuff. It's a bit like international roaming but more painful. Both networks have to play ball.

Another would be multi-IMSI SIM. You've got an IMSI and a packet of crypto keys for all five operators involved and you pick which one to present, and once logged on, you communicate to sort out the admin. This is how the very awesome British global-roaming app Truphone does its stuff.

Yet another would be Apple-is-a-telco, where they get their own MNC, issue their own SIM, negotiate their own MVNO and roaming agreements with carriers, and update the SIM as required. This is how some big machine-to-machine setups work (they either want global capability, or want to switch provider without sending someone to swap out physical cards in each of 10 million Dutch gas meters). I know Apple haven't done that.

If I had to engineer it I would pick either multi-IMSI or be my own operator as it's just less likely to break. From a user point of view, the first option requires far too much trust in the carriers not to bitch about you leaving like fixed-line ISPs do in the UK, and the third option requires a lot of trust in Apple, so the second is preferable. However, the difference with Truphone is that if you don't like them you can throw away the Truphone SIM and uninstall the app. With virtual-SIM you can't do that.

Call me a conservative Bellhead, but there's a reason why the SIM was implemented like it was. Technically a SIM is just an app, but we chose to stick it on a UICC smartcard for good reasons - one was that its security doesn't depend on the phone, but another is that it's the physical embodiment of the user's freedom to change carrier. It's not as if CDMA-world was *more* competitive.


Posted by: Alex | Link to this comment | 10-21-14 5:24 AM
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I told you so.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-26-14 1:06 PM
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I thought what you told us was "Apple have built a SIM card that locks you into their ecosystem." But your link tells us about AT&T locking us into THEIR ecosystem (well, service or whatever). If T-Mobile and Sprint choose not to follow AT&T's lead on this, I imagine the market will reward them for it.

I'm not trying to be jerky, I just still don't understand your argument on this. It still looks to me like, whatever its other sins may be, in this instance Apple is offering something good for customers, bad for telcoms, .

(You certainly told us so about Alex having something to say)


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 10-26-14 1:30 PM
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The point being that in an ordinary SIM world, you can take your AT&T SIM out of your Apple device and put it in another device. Or you can put another carrier's SIM in your Apple device.

With the reprogrammable SIM, at least if they eventually go all the way and make it non-removable,if carriers decide to be jerky (imagine that!) like AT&T here, you're screwed.

Like I said above, it doesn't have to be terrible for consumers, but in all likelihood, based on stated objectives and past behaviour of the parties involved, it will be in future if it becomes the norm.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-27-14 9:06 AM
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Okay, I see. The concern is that if it's reprogrammable, then it could be embedded, and then you don't have the option of snatching the evil out of your iDevice if wankers like AT&T lock it.

I mean, I agree that this would be bad, but it seems like a pretty far-down-the-road thing to worry about. And if this scenario were borne out, it would basically bring us back to where iPhones in the US started, when a carrier could lock you in even if you took out their SIM, and we eventually got past that.

I don't think either the device makers or the carriers are the big problem here; I think there'd be a lot less to worry about from either if the regulators did better (as they do in many places outside the US).


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 10-27-14 12:03 PM
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Indeed. See 54.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:49 AM
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