Re: Guest Post - technology

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I have always already disabled autocorrect. That this seems to be a minority position surprises me.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:10 AM
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Maybe the content moderators and the drone operators could switch jobs with each other every few months.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:13 AM
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1: I've come to rely on it, so its mistakes are indeed aggravating. Like how it doesn't tell you when you've typed "compliment" instead of "complement."


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:13 AM
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gaffes


Posted by: autocorrect | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:14 AM
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It probably breaks down by how well you type. I'm a bad typist -- touch typing, but slow and error-ridden, and autocorrect speeds me up a lot because I don't have to go back and fix all the THis, adn, defendnat, and so on. I make enough errors that it works for that it's a much bigger profit than the loss from miscorrections.

Something that does annoy me is that I think I've developed ingrained misspellings because they're corrected before I noticed I misspelled the word.


Posted by: Lizardbreath | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:15 AM
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Phone autocorrect bothers me more than MS Word autocorrect. Phone autocorrect gets very insistent about what I must have meant, sometimes substituting something incorrect or nonsensical. Also it really wants me to capitalize things I grumpily do not capitalize, to wit: god, bay area.


Posted by: Mister Smearcase | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:17 AM
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I don't mind red-squiggle line flagging misspellings. I just wish it didn't require so much interruption of thought and motion to decline their unhelpful intrusion on the phone or ipad.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:21 AM
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Or what 6 said. Especially the part about autocorrect being doggedly insistent on a single instance.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:23 AM
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I like it, assuming we're talking about the same thing. It seems to get the obvious stuff and only the really obvious stuff, like "abou tfive" or "teh." On the rare occasions it autocorrects something it shouldn't have, I just have to hit backspace and it's reverted. What's the problem?

I guess this could count as humblebragging about my ability watch the screen while I type rather than the keyboard, but I thought everyone who uses a computer for work could do that.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:24 AM
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I get a lot of mileage out of autocorrect at owrk by making it a shorthand tool for long words I use a lot:

aas: analysis
acdg: according
addn: addition
adjt: adjustment
adminn: administration
agt: agreement
amdt: amendment
apte: appropriate
apv: approve
authy: authority

-- etc. I also have conventions for -s, -d, -ly, etc. so it's comprehensive (compv). And more recently, Plmkiyhaq = Please let me know if you have any questions.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:24 AM
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Oh, phones and iPads, right. Fair enough, it's annoying there.


Posted by: Cyrus | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:25 AM
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10 is clever!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:25 AM
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I guess this could count as humblebragging about my ability watch the screen while I type rather than the keyboard,

On your phone?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:25 AM
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Does backspace undo autocorrect on a phone?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:26 AM
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On the autocorrect article - it was interesting, but fuck autocorrect all the way back to Cupertino.

The voice of privilege. Autocorrect is great for the less than fluent. It's as much of a helper to useful expression as cheap typewriters.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:26 AM
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The second link could maybe be supplemented with this, not that it's terribly interesting.

What was the I guess successor to rotten in a similar vein? Portal of Evil?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:27 AM
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The voice of the annoyed.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:28 AM
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Apple autocomplete bites goat ass. How often does somebody really want to type "Pittsburg"?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:29 AM
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That depends, is the person complaining about delays on Bart?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:30 AM
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17. I find it annoying on ios screens as well, the "x" to decline should be much bigger, or hotmapped to space or something else manageable.

Still, like autotranslate, it's a utility that makes a big difference when managing words for self-expression takes effort.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:31 AM
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I'd rely on autocorrect on my phone WAY LESS if the geniuses at apple had thought to include fucking arrow keys on the keyboard thereby making it possible to navigate to the mistake.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:33 AM
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18. overrideable


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:34 AM
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21 is better if fucking modifies either "geniuses" or "keyboard", psosibly both.


Posted by: lw | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:35 AM
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Oh god, 21 is so right. "Oh, the cursor function will be easy. Just lower the keyboard, pinch to zoom in the screen, and then tap. DONE."


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:35 AM
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Even with the tapping you still can't get to the middle of a word, as far as I can tell.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:38 AM
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You can, if you zoom in enough that your fingers are small in comparison to the words.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:38 AM
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I don't mind autocorrect on my phone but have never used it -- or spell-checking -- on a computer. I guess I could turn it off on my phone but... I don't mind it. So here we are.

a kind of artisanal concordance

How could a concordance be artisanal or non-artisanal? It's a concordance. It's... it's a concordance. Calling a concordance created by hand artisanal is barbarous retronymery.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:39 AM
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25: wait, what? hold your finger on the word until the zoomy thing with the cursor shows up, and then move it.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:40 AM
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Calling a concordance created by hand artisanal is barbarous retronymery.

Hey, who're you calling a retronym.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:41 AM
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re: 25

You have to hold the tap for longer [i.e. press] and then it becomes a magnifier-line draggy thing, which you can then move to the middle of the word.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:41 AM
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You people are trying to make me get a Samsung Note. Because stylus. It combines the best features of a Palm Pilot and an iPhone, says nobody but me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:42 AM
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28: oh fine I'll try that. But I still think it's totes ridic.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:42 AM
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Although I have to admit, I had an iPhone for about 2 years before I realised you could do that.


Posted by: nattarGcM ttaM | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:42 AM
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But neb's point stands: it should be part of the keyboard. It's annoying to have to switch back and forth between phone and keyboard.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:46 AM
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Wish I had an idea about the damage to the moderators, what to do about it. Is there a mechanism for declaring something a mental health risk, analogous to a harmful substance in a workplace? I used to follow employment law and health & safety pretty closely, and I think I'd have heard of it if there were.

Class action lawsuit? Congressional hearings? Stevenson's notion of counseling is good but won't do more than mitigate the damage.

Were it illegal to subject workers to it for extended periods the social media companies might have to change policy, which would effect the service but if this is what it takes to keep it as it is, it's too high a price.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:51 AM
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I don't understand 34. Switch between phone and keyboard?


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:55 AM
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It is part of the keyboard on Android (well, it's part of HTC's default keyboard and Swiftkey, anyway. Don't know about stock Android.

And more recently, Plmkiyhaq = Please let me know if you have any questions.

You do realise you could just map that phrase to a shorter set of keystrokes, right?


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:56 AM
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My very first tech job included, briefly, handling complaints about inappropriate/illegal content on our service (specifically including child porn). I was very very lucky that while I dealt with a couple of them, I never saw anything unambiguously horrific.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:56 AM
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The important part of 34 is "but neb's point stands".


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:58 AM
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Hooray for ambiguous horror.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 10:58 AM
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The ambiguous horror being neb's standing point?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 11:00 AM
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Nothing horrible about my standing point, laydeez.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 11:02 AM
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10: I did something similar for a paper I wrote that was based largely on correspondence where I kept having to type very similar citations that differed just enough to keep me from using ibid. There's a long history to that kind of text expansion; I learned the technique in a job that was heavy on data entry.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 11:06 AM
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I don't understand 34. Switch between phone and keyboard?

Switch between keyboard and non-keyboard.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 11:13 AM
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On a physical keyboard I leave autocorrect on because it's easier to delete and override. On Android I turn off autocorrect but use auto complete all the time, including to correct misspellings if the correct spelling shows up as a suggestion.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 11:13 AM
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I always used to huffily turn off autocorrect on desktop computers until I moved to London and had to deal with all the sneaky misspellings in British English; it amazes me how many I still find that I had no idea of.

As for phones, I agree with everybody else. I wish there were arrow keys and I resent the bullying from my phone. I do think the version in iOS 8, where you pick among suggested alternatives instead of having to reject a single suggestion, is an improvement.

(why does "autocorrect" get a red squiggly? is that happening on all your American computers too?)


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:03 PM
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You could also install a whole damn different keyboard in ios8 if you were bothered enough. I bet some of them have arrow keys.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:32 PM
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If my aunt had wheels, she'd be a wagon.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:40 PM
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An auntwagon.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:41 PM
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Oh yeah, that's right, I had forgotten about that. I don't know if I can be bothered when it comes down to it, though. Maybe complaining about it is good enough.


Posted by: Swope FM | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:42 PM
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Auntomobile.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:45 PM
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Most of the alternate keyboards try to differentiate themselves by having...better autocorrect! I just want numbers and some punctuation on the main board, developers of apps. I suppose I could just make one myself, but I have java to learn.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 12:50 PM
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Hah, I forgot you were doing that. What a funny thing to do.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:01 PM
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It was entirely your idea.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:07 PM
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Apparently we're going to blind Ebola with science.
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Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:08 PM
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Better than bullying it with assholes, of course.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:09 PM
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55: You know there's actually an Ebola thread right now?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:10 PM
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54: I am fairly confident I didn't suggest Java as a next language. I probably was like "du0d Python yeah bro down!"


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:11 PM
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57: I do now. I'd apologize but that might erode my self-confidence in marginally unpleasant ways.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:14 PM
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du0d

Is that a memory address?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:30 PM
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I did something like 10 when I was writing my dissertation.
Mu: Müller
HM: Heiner Müller
Hm: Hamletmaschine
VU: Verkommenes Ufer Medeamaterial Landschaft mit Argonauten


Posted by: Blume | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:33 PM
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You could use SAS to write a macro to handle that.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:36 PM
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It's easier than Java.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:39 PM
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47: I really appreciate the half-assed way both Apple and app developers have implemented alternate keyboards. Why yes, I do want to quit the messages app so I can use Swype, why do you ask?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:39 PM
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I was kidding; you did suggest python. But my dream is to work 9-5 for Walgreens.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:39 PM
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Maybe you could help implement Current-C!


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:40 PM
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I really like Swype. Still, I think I want a bigger phone so I can type more easily.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:41 PM
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Why yes, I do want to quit the messages app so I can use Swype, why do you ask?

Ugh, really? Barf.


Posted by: redfoxtailshrub | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:41 PM
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10:
Is there a rubric, or did you find by trial and error?


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:42 PM
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I was excited about the alternate keyboards, until I saw them. I was considering a post on taking good interface design for granted, but meh. It was inspired partly by this (video link) $5000 cooktop (which I covet very much), which has an interface that is about as stupid as a non-insane human could come up with. How many times do I have to swipe to set the temperature? You cannot be serious.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:46 PM
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I so want a gas cooktop. I miss the whole flame thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:48 PM
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I was just talking to Blume last night about how it remains bafflingly common that people think UI is basically trivial or solved.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:49 PM
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Uh, VSOOBCAHFE


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:49 PM
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Urinary Tract Infections?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:52 PM
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70: Not intentionally turning an autocorrect/programming languages thread into a cooking thread, but why on earth would you want that thing? Simple flame was good enough on the veldt, and it's good enough now.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 1:59 PM
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I was considering a post on taking good interface design for granted

I... what? What on earth would lead you to think that's a thing you could actually take for granted?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:07 PM
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You could also install a whole damn different keyboard in ios8 if you were bothered enough. I bet some of them have arrow keys.

Bizarrely, Swiftkey doesn't. Nor does it have numbers on the main page, like it does in Android, though you can get the most common punctuation. I'm hoping this is just because they were rushing to have a version out in time for launch and the functionality will come in updates. If it's a fundamental limitation of how keyboards are implemented in iOS 8 it would really suck.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:09 PM
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68: Usually it works just fine. If you tap on a Messages notification, though, so that the app comes up, Swype goes missing.

Google Maps is the one that I really don't get, though. It launches with Swype selected as the keyboard just fine, it just refuses to accept any input from it.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:09 PM
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I once forgot about Dre, but I've never forgotten about the importance of good interface design.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:09 PM
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70: There are stupider interfaces and a relatives' induction top has one. It beeps and whines and takes several steps to turn on and turns itself off if you do something unexpected like flip the damn omelette and only has eleven power settings. That's coarser control than my cheap old-fashioned coil electric, on which butter omelettes work at 5 1/3 in copper and 5 1/2 in steel, out of 10. I can't believe they cheaped out on a DAC, so I suspect it's interface-limited. (The temp interface lights up in a circle but you change it by pushing + and - buttons that aren't in the circle. Oh my God I hate that stove.)

Other than that, Jesus McQueen, it's a very efficient transfer of energy to the pan and requires much less ventilation than gas does. Also, less chance of kids and the frail lighting themselves on fire. Supposed to be easier to clean than anything with drip pans, although a saleswoman once told me you couldn't let jam congeal on glass tops or they'd be etched (!!!!).


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:14 PM
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why on earth would you want that thing?

Because you can't actually get four pots/pans on a four-burner stove, but you could if you could use the entire space, and because it's a way to get gas-range-like power without having flame or pilot lights that at least one son would absolutely find a way to turn into a disaster.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:17 PM
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What on earth would lead you to think that's a thing you could actually take for granted?

Point was that it's a thing people sometimes do, but shouldn't, take for granted.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:18 PM
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69: Made them up as I went along. My principles are:

* Differentiate from commonly-recognized abbreviations as I might in some cases want to use those - that's why "adminn" instead of "admin", for example
* Only use for fairly long words; the shortest is perhaps 6 letters, but for it to be that short I have to type it pretty frequently
* In choosing letters in the middle, favor letters that stick up or down so that the abbreviation has a more distinctive shape - so "appropriate" becomes "apte" and "implement" becomes "iplt" (exceptions to this are usually legacies)
* If it's an especially long word, another method is to make the abbreviation the first syllable plus the final letter
* Avoid two-letter abbreviations as those might clash with people's initials

These abbreviations have also proved useful in actual note-taking.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:19 PM
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I can't believe they cheaped out on a DAC

Clearly stoves have gotten much more fancy lately. What kind of amplifier did it have? Tube or solid-state?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:20 PM
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I can see about the ease of cleaning, but I haven't used one of those that I haven't hated. My children remain burn-free, and I often have four pots on the four burners of my 24" stove! Arguments rejected.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:21 PM
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You're a small man, Jesus. I use bigger pots.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:22 PM
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72: I feel like there's money to be made in science software that doesn't have criminally stupid interfaces, but software is usually made by the company that produces the instrument, so I guess nobody wants to spend the extra money on software after they spend $200K on the equipment. (I totally would.)


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:22 PM
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Also, is one of your children Murphy's Law incarnate? Because one of mine is!


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:23 PM
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Huh, looking up stuff about Alinea's use of induction hobs I found this. Who knew Gr/ant Ach/atz posted on egullet?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:24 PM
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I also get four pots onto my old cheapie stove (which has TWO OVENS in a slide-in size, SO WONDERFUL), unless canning. Perhaps ogged is always already canning.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:24 PM
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87: One of the reasons my former employer was and is so ridiculously popular with its (enterprise) users is that they put a *lot* of effort into UI design. This is basically one of the new trends in software, to put as much effort and attention into business software as people have been putting into consumer for some time.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:26 PM
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There are only three of you, and you're cooking in four enormous pots? Have you taken in boarders?


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:26 PM
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Oh wait, four. But two are small!


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:27 PM
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My mom, who bakes professionally, has an oven with this control panel, and it's maddening - two ovens, and the controls for upper and lower are kind of randomly different from each other.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:29 PM
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89: Oh look it has a knob! (To be confusing, a pot.) ...That might be worth it just for summer canning.

ydnew, for the things I looked into, the market is small, lab tech time is cheap, and a lot of the terrible UI is inherited from medical equipment. I have no idea why medical UI is so bad.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:33 PM
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94: Oh good criminy.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:34 PM
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91: That is a trend that cannot arrive soon enough in science land. Maybe someday, I'll be able to do basic things like giving files names longer than eight characters or saving graphs as image files rather than bizarre proprietary types.

95.last, I think there are some niches available, but sadly not many. Something to edit gels more easily than PhotoShop might be profitable.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:37 PM
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a lot of the terrible UI is inherited from medical equipment. I have no idea why medical UI is so bad.

Probably because it has to be FDA-approved, and if something was FDA-approved in 1990, whether it be a pill or software, nobody wants to change it significantly and run the risk of having to get it FDA-approved all over again.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:39 PM
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WinRHIZO and its siblings are pretty good (old-fashioned, as they're stuck in an elderly Windows UI standard, but I remember them as being very consistent within the UI). They get a bit of ag market as well as pure research.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:41 PM
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Maybe someday, I'll be able to do basic things like giving files names longer than eight characters

Your science software is running on DOS?


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:43 PM
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97.1: SAS has let you use more than eight characters to name variables for probably a dozen years. In general, it seems fine, but I think grad students should train on the older versions so they learn some discipline. Just because you have more characters doesn't mean you have to use them.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:47 PM
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100: On a daily basis, I use software designed for Windows98 and a Sun Data Station. We have one thingy that's running Windows 3.1. The repair techs are frequently impressed that it runs.

99 looks pretty good.

101: I like to append dates to filenames. 20141028 takes all eight characters.


Posted by: ydnew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:54 PM
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I recommend thus essay for the pros and cons of ceramic top ranges: http://www.ladybugletter.com/?p=130


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:55 PM
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topically, autocorrect thought I meant thus rather than this.

My kid keeps changing the keyboards on our phones to Cyrillic or Hebrew. This is annoying.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:58 PM
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I like to append dates to filenames.

This seems like a job for version control.


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:59 PM
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72. I think UI is considered trivial because people can look at it and think they understand how it works without knowing what a PITA it was to write it in the first place.

90. We thought we might have to replace our stove and it looked like induction made the most sense. Then we realized our cast iron skillets and ceramic-clad stuff were verboten.

Fortunately the appliance guys were able to resurrect the old stove for about $100.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:59 PM
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Further to 105: have you considered git?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 2:59 PM
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Then we realized our cast iron skillets and ceramic-clad stuff were verboten.

Say what?


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:02 PM
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Yeah, that was not my understanding of what doesn't work on induction.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:04 PM
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Chicken butt.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:05 PM
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We have an old Viking that was pretty old and well used when we got it. It has decent power and we push it pretty hard. It is apparently one of the last consumer models that can basically be replaced bit by bit and thereby kept going forever. Luckily the local repairman seems to find our intention to do just that simpatico. Weighs an ungodly amount but that's what weightlifter stepsons and their pals are for, right?


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You can totally use cast iron on an induction stovetop, you need some metal. Read link posted above for details.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:10 PM
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Million-dollar, new-in-2010 mass specs run Windows NT. Which was an improvement on the medical UI, which came with its own little flip-book *to explain the touchscreen* but we needed to add Post-Its because the flip-book wasn't explanatory on a single page, you had to remember earlier state. Oh my God it was bad.

On the other hand, the sensor that found the samples to feed into the mass spec I programmed in assembler (but that's because I was using an old one on the cheap. Current ones have bad Windows interfaces instead. Usually bad Windows interfaces to either Basic or C that they won't expose.)


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:13 PM
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From the linked article:

enthusiastic 21-year-old with a jaunty pouf doesn't mean what the author thinks it means, at least not this side of the great water.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 3:33 PM
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Science and bureaucracy are like tech graveyards where the zombies never rest.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 4:22 PM
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108. If you have old-school cast iron skillets, which is to say ones with a ridge on the bottom instead of being totally flat, the induction ranges overheat them.

Or so I'm told. We have one small skillet (one egg size) that is utterly flat, but several others that have the round ridge. These apparently cause the skillet to overheat. The same is true for ceramic-clad cookware, or so the web says.

Would be interested to hear if you have bottom-ridged cast iron and your house hasn't burned down yet.

(Some of these skillets are forty years old or more, by now. Hate to get rid of them!)


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 5:10 PM
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116: I haven't been able to find anything that mentions overheating pans on induction cooktops. Where are you seeing this?

(Worse comes to worst, you can always get an induction disk like one of these and use it under the pot or pan.)


Posted by: Josh | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 5:27 PM
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Oh boy. $100 iron disks so you can use a stove. I can't wait for that to catch on.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:01 PM
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117. Lots of comments on sites for induction cooktops. Lots of different sites. Try searching for "induction cooktops cast iron" and see what you get. They have to be dead flat, which older ones aren't.

We could get a gas stove but it would cost a ton as there is gas in the road but not at our house: $$$$.

Praying for the ancient GE all-in-one range-stove-microwave thingy to live forever. Banzai, Emperor GE!


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:30 PM
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xpost autocorrect topic: WTF? between .2 and .3?


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:31 PM
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Back in the day I wrote some of the software used by some of the people in that article to do their jobs. And holy shit is there a bunch of stuff on the internet that you really do not want to see. The "aaah holy shit a beheading video!!!" followed by a nonchalant "oh, which one?" is just as disturbing in person as it is in text.

Of course the alternative is going to be a couple of computer science Ph.D.s creating some machine learning system that automatically recognizes porn and then all these people will lose their jobs which, while shitty, pay $20 an hour for unskilled office work. Or if it's illegal to subject workers to it for a long time they'll just hire people for three months and then fire them, like manual laborers in the nuclear power industry.


Posted by: jake | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:44 PM
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Forget it, Jake. It's Internet-town.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:57 PM
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Of course the alternative is going to be a couple of computer science Ph.D.s creating some machine learning system that automatically recognizes porn

I dunno, people have been doing plenty of work on that score for a while (you can find examples of the one in google street view at work, for instance). Like many other machine learning applications (cars, self-driving subtype) the threshold for no-humans-in-the-loop viability is likely high enough to keep a heck of a lot of people employed for a long time.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 6:57 PM
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I have an induction cooktop and only three pots/pans that work on it, all stainless steel. It really is great for boiling water and heating liquid based things like soups but I haven't really gotten the hang of cooking other things without stuff sticking to the bottom of the pan but also not cooking the way I want it to, and I have low standards.

I suppose I should see if I could find a non-stick induction-compatible pan. I have so far haven't had a problem scraping the pan clean, but I worry I'm going to mess it up or set food on fire or something.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 10-28-14 7:57 PM
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121.2. Unless they can come up with an AI that's as sophisticated as Justice Stewart, ain't going to happen. It would have to differentiate porn from mainstream erotica (increasingly difficult), as well as legal, probably-should-be accessible-to-adults stuff, whose distributors would lawyer up if it was deleted, from the really sick shit. I think they can probably count on their $20 until they find a better job (which I sincerely wish them all).


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 4:29 AM
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125: facebook or twitter (or any of the companies discussed in the article) do not have to adhere to the potter stewart standard; they can block whatever the hell they want.


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 4:34 AM
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I don't have an induction hob but my new flat's stove does have a flat ceramic top, the first I've ever had. I've only had gas or those really shitty old electric rings that take forever to heat up. I have to say it's been fantastic, cleaning-wise, and fine cooking-wise.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 4:51 AM
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A "Mechanical Potter Stewart" would be a great name for a thing.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 5:16 AM
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The worst UI crimes are those perpetrated by the software provided with multifunction printers. This includes whatever is running on the on-board touchscreen, as well as the desktop companion software


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 5:19 AM
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PS, if you expect them to fix everything with big data/machine learning/whatever, this IEEE Spectrum interview is well worth reading. Well worth reading anyway, really.


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130: on the other hand, also read Michael Jordan's rebuttal to his own interview (or at least the framing of it).


Posted by: Sifu Tweety | Link to this comment | 10-29-14 6:47 AM
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It's hard to imagine computer vision completely putting moderators out of work in the near future, but not hard to imagine computer vision greatly decreasing their workload by e.g. ruling out all videos not containing a living being.


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Perhaps unnecessarily implicit in 123 was the premise that the need for this kind of thing will scale at a dramatic enough rate that even if computer vision decreases the workload greatly the workforce could easily still increase. And, of course, computer vision preprocessing solutions are already deployed, for sure, at all of the big companies mentioned. So the low-hanging fruit, as far as that goes, and not meant like that, gross, has likely already been picked.


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Slowly we will extend our necks like giraffes, and more and more fruit will appear low to us.


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