Re: Celebrate

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The day the pacing on the blog broke.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 8:41 AM
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The mining industry is horribly corrupt and cavalier with the lives of workers. These guys are the heirs of the assholes who paid their workers in company scrip only redeemable at the company store, who unleashed Pinkertons and even bombed striking miners. No doubt Natilo knows the history better than I, but there are good reasons that the labor movement had strong support from miners back in the day.


Posted by: togolosh | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 9:06 AM
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Harlan County, USA (online @hulu).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 9:11 AM
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His shenanigans with the WV judicial system are fairly astounding.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 9:13 AM
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I posted this to my FB feed yesterday, with the note that it was the only uplifting thing I'd seen all day (I was in a crappy mood for personal reasons, but I've been feeling pretty serious despair about the world for months now).

I wonder how hoi polloi in WV feels about this - Lord knows they support every political preference of Blankenship.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 10:04 AM
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Note that JRoth uses "hoi" in "hoi polloi" to mean "the"!

I appreciate the macaronic pedantry on display but admit it makes the sentence sound weird to me.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 10:48 AM
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Note that JRoth uses "hoi" in "hoi polloi" to mean "the"!

Not even Noël Coward was that scrupulous.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 10:50 AM
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I thought the WV polloi still contains strong democratic elements, largely because of unionizing work against Massey energy and the like.


Posted by: rob helpy-chalk | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:00 AM
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Last time I drove through WV I was impressed by the high number of roadside bathtub shrines. Those don't generally coincide with a Democratic polloi.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:17 AM
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Almost the entire population of WV is white working class rural people, despite its status as the birthplace of Randy Moss and T.D. Jakes. It also has the highest percentage of people over 65 in the country at 16% according to the 2010 census. So it should be no surprise that as these demographic groups become exponentially more Republican, so does West Virginia.

Inasmuch as the number of actual jobs in the mining industry is very low nowadays, the labor unions in the mining industry don't have much power to counter these trends, if they ever did.


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:27 AM
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Blankenship is not popular in WV. Most people realize he is villainous. They may have similar political preferences to him, but blue collar republicans don't mind seeing corrupt executives prosecuted. A few years ago, tea party demonstrations were one of the only places it was common to hear vocal popular support for jailing all the bankers--and opposition to their "bailouts". (OWS was the other.)


Posted by: urple | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:49 AM
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9. That's interesting. The Boston area has a lot of Mary-in-a-bathtubs, which I associate with ethnic Catholics, and around here they seem to still mostly be Democrats.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:04 PM
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12 is right. I could stand on a street with a dozen of them if I walked about fifteen minutes from my office.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:11 PM
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At least 591 of them just here in Somerville.


Posted by: Nathan Williams | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:16 PM
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6: I never used - or really understood - the term before I learned it in Greek, so the common usage is grating to my ears.

Come to think of it, something I read in my adolescence led me to think it had a meaning opposite to its correct meaning; I'm not sure if it was a misuse, a misreading by me, or a combo (i.e., an ambiguous use that I then misread). Or maybe I was just being confused by "hoity toity".


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:35 PM
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15.2: That's an extremely common mistake!


Posted by: peep | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:37 PM
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Probably because only hoity toity people use "hoi polloi" correctly.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 12:56 PM
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I thought the WV polloi still contains strong democratic elements, largely because of unionizing work against Massey energy and the like.

That era is drawing rapidly to a close. This election outcome would have been well-nigh inconceivable even 10 years ago. That district is not quite the very heart of UMWA influence, but damn close. Also includes possibly the most destitute white majority county in the U.S., one Mrs. Ezra Klein was moved to write about.


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 1:57 PM
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10 gets it right. I would just add that the state is, by some measures, at least, more racist than South Carolina despite not having any black people within its borders.


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:04 PM
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If you got all your news from my father's retelling of it, you might conclude that the CEO's legal name was "Thatsonofabitch D. Blankenship".


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:09 PM
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Pittsburgh and Ohio appear to have drawn away much of what would have been the educated youth of West Virginia.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:10 PM
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20: Not that we're from WV, but I discussed it with coworkers at lunch and we agreed it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy unless it were Jamie Dimon. Blankenship's sleaze factor was legendary.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:12 PM
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Pittsburgh and Ohio appear to have drawn away much of what would have been the educated youth of West Virginia.

Charlotte is a bigger destination these days. And not just for the educated.

A couple of generations ago, the magnet was Columbus/Akron. Another commenter remarked on the oddity of these people's lingering self-identification as West Virginians, even in the second and third generation: "Like Rose of Sharon's great grandkids identifying with Oklahoma from their dorm at SDSU."


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:16 PM
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Charlotte kind of sucks. It just a giant mess of freeway. Or at least, that's all I've ever seen of it.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:17 PM
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24: As a columnist in the local newspaper once put it: "We like to think of ourselves as a little Atlanta, but the rest of the world sees us as a big Spartanburg."


Posted by: knecht ruprecht | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:22 PM
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I also think of Atlanta as a giant mess of freeway.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 2:25 PM
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It wouldn't be strange to have a significant chunk of the population thrilled by the idea of having malevolent '80s style corporate villains punished but try to achieve this by voting for the people covering for them - even if those politicians are openly selling themselves as 'pro-business'. It is one of the most enduring and charming features of American politics.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 3:01 PM
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My daughter happens to be in the Mountain State working on coal mining program related activities. But she does not know any civilians and that kind of thing seems to be avoided in the office. (And she says she only learned and knows of it via twitter.)


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 8:03 PM
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Wait, your daughter is a coal miner?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 9:08 PM
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(See, this is the problem with being so vague and allusive all the time.)


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 9:08 PM
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"Storm Crower's Daughter" is the next big country hit


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:47 PM
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I suppose it's inevitable now that Taylor Swift has completely abandoned country for pop.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-14-14 11:49 PM
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19: for shame! I never thought I'd see the day...


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 11-15-14 3:35 AM
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39: (See, this is the problem with being so vague and allusive all the time.)

One man's problem is another man's doesn't give a shit.

Actually she is working with a government agency involved with after-the-fact effects of mining. Unsurprisingly everyone there is extremely guarded about their personal views of anything that touches on the politics of the work she says (she's not been there long and is not in a permanent position, so its not like she'd be anybody's confidante). And they are also keenly aware that any official statements or reports are instantly scrutinized by folks looking for "war on coal" material (and in due time by folks more politically interested in environmental concerns).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-15-14 7:29 AM
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39 s/b 30


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 11-15-14 7:30 AM
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34: Yeah, I figured it was probably something like that. Sounds like interesting work.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 11-15-14 10:22 PM
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I watched an in-depth news report recently about a mine explosion that killed a bunch of miners in China. They interviewed the mine execs, who were all serving lengthy prison sentences. I think the shortest was about 5 years for a low level supervisor to 20+ for the CEO.

I'm against the death penalty, but if we're going to have it, I'm not totally opposed to it being applied to those who run criminally negligent and/or corrupt corporations.


Posted by: Buttercup | Link to this comment | 11-17-14 5:18 AM
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