According to the doctor, I have only a 3% chance of having a cardiac event in the next ten years. I might live to 60 and still want to vote.
"Now we have cut the fat, and we are having to cut bone," said Ken E. Weinberg, the water resources director for the San Diego County Water Authority, which provides water to the Santa Fe Irrigation District. "Now there is more emphasis on changing to water-efficient landscapes. You have all this grass. Do you really need that front lawn? That's where the focus is turning in Southern California."
That is an interesting definition of "cutting bone".
There's already a circumcision thread.
That very article is the reason it is fine for you to move to San Diego. There is plenty of urban water, but some neighborhoods and water districts are being jackasses about it. Were San Diego really approaching shortages at the health and safety level, Rancho Santa Fe could be forced by state authorities to transfer water.
What that article reflects is that drought hasn't been very serious yet.
That's not the answer I was hoping for. Someone tell me that Southern California is going to be a hellscape in twenty years. I mean a different hellscape.*
*I like Southern California, but I wasn't going to let anyone else make the joke.
I've been watching a lot of Rockford Files lately. It's really making me want to move to Southern California in the 1970s.
Someone put Jake Gittes on the case.
Naw, the big cities will do fine for water. They can afford the infrastructure and purchase water or vote to override water rights. Ag will lose a lot of water. Small cities can't afford the infrastructure to have secure water, except for Rancho Santa Fe, which can afford whatever it wants.
My dad and cousins are getting some sort incentive to change their irrigation set-up. I think it's part of the Ogallala Aquifer Initiative. Anyway, they are switching from furrow irrigation to center pivot irrigation of the fancy kind that shoots down instead of up.
I mean a different hellscape.
Don't worry, the water thing might work out but the heat, traffic, and ridiculous housing prices seem to be increasing every year.
I legitimately agree with the voting cap. Some 70-year-olds are fully capable of making informed, intelligent political decisions. So are some 15-year-olds.
Oh, when I propose disenfranchising the elderly , the stupid and the unpropertied I'm "bad" and "antidemocratic," but when ogged does it he gets onto the front page.
Half-measures! It's time to go full Logan's Run!
Oops! I'm always forgetting how old I am.
Megan, you're killing me. The way you tell it, property values will actually go way up in the cities, because they'll be the only places to be in California.
Flippanter, did your proposal have symmetry? People love symmetry.
8: But what will happen to Neptune in the water wars?
He'll win - he's the Lord of the Oceans.
14.2: Extra votes for the young, the smart and the propertied!
14.2: Come on, ogged, no need to pretend. We all know it's because Mexicans always get preferential treatment.
Oh, wait, Veronica Mars. Sorry.
(Actually what with the incest thing, VM was fairly close to Chinatown already.)
Property qualifications that disenfranchised equal numbers from the top and bottom of the economic scale might improve things.
8. Agriculture in CA wastes a lot of water, because it's cheaper to waste it than conserve it. Conserving it while maintaining the same productivity requires a lot of infrastructure that's more expensive than water ... now.
12. Perhaps we should disenfranchise trolls.
The way you tell it, property values will actually go way up in the cities, because they'll be the only places to be in California.
Property values will go way up, quite temporarily, when thirsty people move to Rancho Santa Fe to eatjuice the rich.
It's time to go full Logan's Run!
In this case I think you mean Wild in the Streets. 14 or fight!
When people started naming their kids "Logan" I was so confused. I didn't associate it with anything but Logan's Run. I had no idea about Wolverine's given name. Then I had no idea I knew so many nerds.
24 made me laugh. There is apparently to be no rest for the new mother water engineer!
I think urban California is a long way from coming to grips with the infrastructure costs we're going to incur, for example to move treated wastewater about, but the cities particularly on the coast are rich enough we'll get there. Wealthy suburbs will as well. Poor rural communities and totally absurd middle class/working class ranchette subdivisions (think 5 acre lots for firefighters) in the foothills with a CSD relying on groundwater are going to be hosed. There's a policy argument to be made for addressing the rural ag worker communities (these people grow our food!) but not the ranchettes.
It's time to go full Logan's Run!
Oops! I'm always forgetting how old I am.
The makers of the movie didn't seem to care how old many of the main actors were.
24. It's okay though as long as I don't manspread, right?
The makers of the movie didn't seem to care how old many of the main actors were.
Are we talking about Logan's Run or Veronica Mars?
27: In SE Tulare County (mostly east of Porterville), the wells are running dry. As a temporary workaround, they're installing big plastic water tanks in the front yard of houses. They hook those water tanks to the house plumbing* (well, that's a current fight, since the tank installers don't want to get building permits to alter the house plumbing system for the new source), and deliver water by truck a couple of times a week.
I think the name "Logan" just went through a phase of popularity among people who weren't necessarily familiar with either Logan's Run or Wolverine. It's the "Madison" and "Savannah" crowd. Isn't there a Logan, Utah?
As for relocating and/or settling in water-challenged regions, why? What's the upside, just climate and property values? We know what the downside is.
32 last. Where do they get the water from, China?
How about: seniors can't vote on their own, but each senior can confer voting power to one otherwise-ineligible person of their choice---under-18s, nonresidents, felons, etc.. Ballots remain secret. You can't endorse the same person in more than one election.
I have no idea what effect this would have but "random chaos" sounds better than the status quo.
Someone tell me that Southern California is going to be a hellscape in twenty years.
There's always Warren Zevon's expectation that California will slide into the ocean ("like the mystics and statistics say it will").
35: Are we restricting recipients to one vote apiece, or allowing for over-connectors to over-vote?
37: If you allow overvotes, I think the system reduces quickly to "all under-18s vote" because the parties will systematically organize over-connectors. Every district would have one left-leaning 70-year-old who endorses all the likely-Dems and one right-leaning 70-year-old who endorses all the likely-GOPs. Not that that's a bad outcome on the ground, but a one-to-one system seems to preserve at least appearance of enfranchisement. And some of the substance.
38 can't be what would happen, because the 70 year olds have only one vote to *give* apiece. It would be a disenfranchised 15yo or such who can charm all the county 70-year-olds out of their votes.
39: So basically a charismatic electoral college.
40: just been reading Robin Lane Fox. Random lot plus occasional ostracism is an appealling idea.
I've been advocating random lot for replacing the House of Lords for decades. Maybe my time is coming.
Undocumented home-health aids might finally get some representation in Congress.
36: well, once California tumbles into the sea, that'll be the day I go back to my old school, per Steely Dan. to be honest that's about right.
35 et al. I wrote a paper back in the day for a Government class where I suggested that representatives should get voting power equal to the number of people who voted for them, and the voters could change their "delegation" at any time. There would be a threshold of votes a representative would need, to keep the size of Congress manageable.
Nothing about 15 or 70 year olds though.
I got a C.
If we couldn't vote past the age of 65 or whatever it would at least get the Clintonista shitfucks off my back. I could just beam in a senile way and tell them that I could not vote but that I hated them worse than death itself.