Re: Oh Really?

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Excellent point of view. I would like more information about that topic. thanks


Posted by: Findyourlucky | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 9:18 AM
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In the long run, we are all comment spam.


Posted by: Roberto Tigre | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 9:26 AM
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Marx said that.


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 9:29 AM
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As a critic, Teachout is an aesthetic reactionary with high self-regard, so this seems in character.


Posted by: Jesus McQueen | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 9:35 AM
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Half of the people can be part right all of the time


Posted by: Criminally Bulgur | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 9:42 AM
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You know who else said things?


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 10:39 AM
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Hell, I retweeted that earlier today when I saw it tweeted into my TL by Luc Sante and then untweeted it after I saw Teachout's tweet (OK, I feel like a dork for just writing that, not the "Luc Sante" part though, he's cool). Luc shouldn't have backed down. I did like this though: https://twitter.com/luxante/status/611736380360814592


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 10:48 AM
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ogged, you've been on the Alice Goffman beat, right? Did you (and other parties following the story) see this?


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 11:12 AM
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Re 8, I found this, in which a reporter locates and talks to some of the people from the book, really interesting.


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 11:30 AM
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But to Teachout--whose name I've heard but can't place, and who I now think of as a doofus"

This is Terry Teachout. You may be thinking of Zephyr Teachout, a Fordham Law Professor who was much in the news in NY last year.


Posted by: marcel proust | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:15 PM
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Why would you think that ogged hasn't heard Terry's name?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:21 PM
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Who the fuck is Terry Teachout?


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:24 PM
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A critic and aesthetic reactionary, Walter. Do try to keep up.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:25 PM
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Here, for your reference, is an extremely unflattering photo.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:25 PM
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Reading 9 after 8, out of order, makes it clear that the anonymization couldn't even keep a journalist from finding all those people. So yes, those do seem like disciplinary problems. I agree with the journalist's pessimism about her ability to get through all this. (I also turn out to be one degree separated from Goffman socially, through an unexpected connection. I should really drop that connection a line; it's been ages.)


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:40 PM
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NMM to Firesign Theater's Nick Danger aka Phil Austin

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Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 12:53 PM
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I haven't read 8 yet, but the story linked in 9 is very interesting.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 1:18 PM
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Am I right that Alice Goffman plays Piper on OITNB?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 1:25 PM
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Oh, ha, that's the actual link from 8.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 1:27 PM
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Pretty sure I learned who Terry Teachout was via unfogged, circa 2005-2006.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 2:31 PM
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One of my advisees is about to begin her fieldwork among a vulnerable community in which illegal activity may occur (at the expense of said vulnerable people). The other members of her committee and I are royally pissed at the IRB for simply rubber-stamping her proposal, and have assigned her a ton more to do, including speaking with an attorney, before we empower her to go off and collect data. Among the things we're concerned about is her own safety. I have to say, it's exhausting to advise these kinds of things.


Posted by: President Cyborg | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 2:49 PM
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8: At the heart of this controversy are the fundamental limitations of ethnography as a mode of inquiry. As practiced by many scholars, what is supposed to be a scientific undertaking aimed at systematically revealing truths about the world looks more like an uncomfortable hybrid of impressionistic data gathering, soft-focus journalism, and even a dash of creative writing. ...exactly the way I like my participant observation. I read this shit all the time. But trolling! Hard! Fast! Mean!

Vox on King v Burwell

Anybody read the Greg Sargent piece in WaPo? scroll down, there's a map

...it's very plausible the health care system would continue progressing towards universal health care in around 16 to 18 mostly blue states, while in many red states, something approaching chaos would set in, at least in the short term.

Thinking on Kennedy* last time, and presuming SCOTUS can see that map and understands what happens, and hating on disproportionate impact or equal protection or sumpin, it would not shock me for 5 assholes to toss the whole fucking thing, kill Obamacare entirely. I said it first.

Kennedy:"It is not the job of the court to cover for a dysfunctional Congress." or sumpin like that.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 2:53 PM
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I guess Roberts is the swing. People should re-read the Kennedy opinion in whatever, he might influence Roberts more this time.

That map of 31 vs 19 is horrible, and maybe not acceptable to Roberts.

And the screaming mess for years could get Jeb and Repubs the whole shebang in 2016, though Roberts would never ever think like that. They don't want HRC to replace three justices.


Posted by: bob mcmanus | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 2:59 PM
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hating on disproportionate impact or equal protection or sumpin, it would not shock me for 5 assholes to toss the whole fucking thing, kill Obamacare entirely. I said it first.
Not first, I said that a couple months ago and just earlier this week.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 3:17 PM
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Kennedy:"It is not the job of the court to cover for a dysfunctional Congress." or sumpin like that.

That's bullshit. The Executive Branch covers for a dysfunctional Congress all the time; the Courts really ought to pitch in too.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 3:39 PM
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The notion that private vices (the satisfaction of luxurious desires) produce public goods was the doctrine of Bernard Mandeville's Fable of the Bees. Keynes referred approvingly to Mandeville in the General Theory and discussed it at length; indeed, it seems to be the only time in the General Theory that Keynes used the word "wicked" or a variant thereof, sardonically to approve of Mandeville's apparent paradox that self-indulgence produces public benefits. It therefore seems quite likely that Keynes at one point or another summed up Mandeville in a phrase like this one.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 4:34 PM
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I was going to say this post seemed like a slol bat signal.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 4:48 PM
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Anti-Keynesians are a cowardly and superstitious lot.


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 4:55 PM
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Slol!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 5:26 PM
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Neb!


Posted by: slolernr | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 5:29 PM
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I was looking to quote a passage from Keynes' A Treatise on Money not long ago. Alas, it is not freely available on the Internet. Apparently being published in 1930 doesn't quite make it old enough to be in the public domain. I blame Halford.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 5:41 PM
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If what I learned thirty seconds ago about UK copyright law is correct, you only have to wait another year.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 06-19-15 7:53 PM
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Teachout was one of those warbloggers Unfogged was sorta kinda pally with back in the days the instapundit link on the sidebar was added.


Posted by: Martin Wisse | Link to this comment | 06-24-15 6:03 AM
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I see him mentioned in the archives, but not in a notably friendly way.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 06-24-15 6:13 AM
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We're kind of assholes to most people we mention.


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