Re: Times Change

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It's totally doesn't make this the whitest blog ever if no one comments on this. No worries, pals.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 12:22 PM
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There are a lot of posts these past few days.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 12:30 PM
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I'm about to read the article but didn't we just recently have the the discussion that Coates is no Baldwin?


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 12:35 PM
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The new biography of Iceberg Slim must be of interest to somebody, he typed whitely.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 2:42 PM
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Thanks for posting. This is much more illuminating than the huffy "Coates is no Baldwin" discussion -- talks about their influences, their contexts and their times in ways that explain the differences in their styles. The question of whether or not Coates is worthy of the title was always unfair to both Coates and Baldwin.


Posted by: k-sky | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 3:25 PM
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I'm reading The Fire Next Time right now.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 3:59 PM
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I'm ready Lucky Jim.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 4:05 PM
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7: I'm not.


Posted by: Opinionated Lucky Jim | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 6:31 PM
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I am reading The Revolutions, which I would not mention if I didn't like it owing to the authorship/commenter overlap thing, but I do. It's like the Out of the Silent Planet/Perelandra that one wishes to have had.

About Baldwin and Coates: Baldwin is writing as a gay man, and that really informs all his writing. It's sort of odd, now that I think about it, that in all the stuff I've read about Baldwin and Coates, I have read very little that talks about Baldwin as a gay writer and Coates as a straight one. I don't really have a fantastic analysis about all this, but I've read and reread Baldwin since my early twenties and...I dunno, I just feel like everything in the ways that he talks about love and family and social relationships is profoundly shaped by being gay (particularly at a time where he was sort of known to be gay but wasn't exactly able to be all gay lib about it) as well as by being Black.


Posted by: Frowner | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 6:39 PM
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I'm reading The Fire Next Time right now.

Hey, me too.


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 08- 8-15 7:59 PM
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9. Is/was Gilman a commenter here? Didn't know that. The Revolutions is quite good.


Posted by: DaveLMA | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:13 AM
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7: YOU ARE SCUM.*

* "Mr. Kingsley Amis is so talented, his observation is so keen, that you cannot fail to be convinced that the young men he so brilliantly describes truly represent the class with which his novel is concerned....They have no manners, and are woefully unable to deal with any social predicament. Their idea of a celebration is to go to a public bar and drink six beers. They are mean, malicious and envious....They are scum."


Posted by: OPINIONATED W. SOMERSET MAUGHAM | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:34 AM
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11 He wrote the greatest jaw-droppingest awesomest "Naming of Parts"/"Fuck you, clown" mash-ups in the history of forever.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:48 AM
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11. Gilman used to comment here before he was famous. His contribution to the "Fuck you clown" thread was immortal.

I don't know about his characters, but Amis was never sober after lunchtime. If your world view had been set as a liberal Tory in about 1930 and had never changed in any detail, you apparently found him amusing company.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:49 AM
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"jaw-droppingly awesomest"? Something like that. He's really good on the twitters too.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:51 AM
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14 Thou has been pwned, chris y, with specifics and added linkage value too.

On that thread, Chopper said it best.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 7:56 AM
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9: Have you read this? I was also struck by the letter to my nephew/letter to my son contrast.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 8:53 AM
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NMM2 Trillian.

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Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 10:43 AM
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9: Have you read this? I was also struck by the letter to my nephew/letter to my son contrast.

Thank you, that was good.


Posted by: NickS | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 11:20 AM
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Speaking of rap: I don't know how many unfogged-oids will remember the Sean Price who is now dead, I'm gueesing maybe Heebie and one or two others? But he was a fairly big deal in Nineties hip-hop.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 08- 9-15 5:26 PM
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14 Thou has been pwned, chris y, with specifics and added linkage value too. thanks for sharing...


Posted by: juegos friv | Link to this comment | 07-19-17 9:12 PM
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Holy shit, the AI spam revolution is here.


Posted by: Walt Someguy | Link to this comment | 07-20-17 12:43 AM
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I know, right?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 07-20-17 12:49 AM
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Its worse than you think: I've been an AI spam bot all along.


Posted by: Spike | Link to this comment | 07-20-17 2:10 AM
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