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Ahem.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-14-15 8:57 PM
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So, the C-SPAN clip cuts away as she's about to respond. I'm not normally too curious about the particulars of boxing and brawling among these sorts of people, but I'm kind of curious about what she said.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 08-14-15 9:07 PM
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Hilarious. You know you've gone too far when you embarrass Jonah Goldberg.


Posted by: F | Link to this comment | 08-14-15 9:18 PM
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I knew her, very slightly, when I lived in NYC. Quite a character. Yale conservatives are the weirdest conservatives. (To be fair, Seavey is also a loon, and he went to Brown.)


Posted by: X.trapnel | Link to this comment | 08-14-15 11:08 PM
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2: "Hate the game, not the player."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:30 AM
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I vaguely recalled this* and the guy's creepy personal ad linked here. The seeds of the behavior exhibited in the clip are quite evident.

If you answered "no" to all these questions, there may be hope of us getting along and even building a romantic relationship. But read on and learn the other nine Rules for Dating Todd.
10. If you answered as suggested to all the questions above, are an undeformed female, and are somewhere below the age of menopause (not that I'm knocking the various hot older women I've met, but we ought to think long-term here), then let's consider building a romantic relationship.
Non-monster lady, on the other hand, if you're out there, drop me a line. If you're smart, you know how necessary this personal ad's various complaints are and won't be put off by them. If you're not smart, well, a universe of singles bars and online dating sites awaits you, so go to it, missy, and good luck!

LayDEEZ....

*But certainly not across a name change and a move across the world--I assume it was some serendipitous name googling that led to ogged making the connection. Right?


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:04 AM
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Oh, I know them both, and have actually spent a fair amount of time with him.


Posted by: Dead Prez | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:06 AM
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Lucky you.


Posted by: Flippanter | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 6:35 AM
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Nosflow mentioned Todd Lokken the other day, and now this. I'm going to have to take a pseud to avoid the negatives associated with my name.


Posted by: Todd | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 7:02 AM
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Speaking of TV, what are people's thoughts on Sesame Street's "move" to HBO? (All new shows will air on HBO and then become available to public television stations later.)


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 7:21 AM
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Someone should write a book about people sometime: They're peculiar.

I can't get all that excited about the Sesame Street/HBO thing -- JHP has always been a for-profit endeavor, even if CTW is not. And public television is lousy with commercials now anyway, so what's the dif?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 7:49 AM
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Not to mention, Big Bird is basically a dinosaur, so what's the dif?


Posted by: Von Wafer | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:36 AM
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If you're not smart, well, a universe of singles bars and online dating sites awaits you

Was there ever a universe that included both singles bars and online dating sites?


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:37 AM
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The young women I supervise represent that they live in such a universe, and they seem plenty smart to me.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:04 AM
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In case there was any doubt that the review was in bad faith:

Since the end of Jim Crow, authors who have asserted that white America is not just misguided but actively wicked in its dealings with black America have tended to grow hazy when it comes to what benefit, exactly, white America derives from this villainy. Here we see why: Generally it is the least plausible link in an already tenuous logical chain.

What benefit? Who could say, really? Money, power, alleviation of anxiety, justification to resolve cognitive dissonance, sadistic pleasure -- nah, impossible. Human beings have never sought to gain such benefits from other human beings. And certainly not in a structural way.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:08 AM
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Emphasis in the blockquote was mine, by the way.


Posted by: Witt | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:08 AM
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13. I'd have thought singles bars and online dating sites served quite different strategies. Plenty of room for both, and swiping right too.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:24 AM
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12. Just so.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:30 AM
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When AI takes over, single bars will be full of machines swiping right, forever.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:39 AM
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Is a "singles bar" an actual thing? When I was a kid watching Three's Company, I imagined there were. But now I'm old and all the bars I've been to were just bars, with more or less suitable demographics.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:50 AM
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10: I've shown the kids Sesame Street on Netflix and Hulu, but never on PBS. After 45 years, I'm not sure world actually needs more episodes of Sesame Street. The ones online range from somewhat to very old and they serve just fine.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:53 AM
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The bar where all the boxers hang out in Requiem for a Heavyweight probably doesn't qualify as a singles bar. The clientele might have been mostly unmarried, though.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:03 AM
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20: I expect Internet dating has put the old-timey "singles' bar" out of business but yes, it was a thing. My aunt actually met her current hubby at one.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:08 AM
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23: How would one know one was in a singles bar and not just a regular old married-people bar?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:16 AM
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The one we had here advertised itself specifically as a single's bar, including the name of the bar itself (I think it was called "Mingles"). I suppose if you just wandered randomly into it without any preparation, the fact of most of the clientele being over forty and decidedly not married would become evident pretty quickly.


Posted by: Lord Castock | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:28 AM
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The ones online range from somewhat to very old and they serve just fine.

I've had this thought about every children's show. If you have a completely new audience every three years, why not just run the same shows forever and ever? Is the 80s Gummy Bears really particularly different than 2015's Adventures of Tinkerbell?


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:36 AM
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26 Hey kids! It's Howdy Doody time!


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:41 AM
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Past a certain point the episodes might feel too dated, but yeah.

I definitely don't see the no-HBO general public disadvantaged by a nine-month delay.


Posted by: Minivet | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:42 AM
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My associates refer to the "V**gra Triangle " a district in that shape because of the street pattern. They've all been there even if not habitués and while the men are often fortyish the women are much younger and perched on very high heels. That 's where the singles bars are.


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:44 AM
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"Thanks to Viagra, I've got a triangle shape in my pants. Ladeez."


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 11:19 AM
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26: It wasn't a television show but I think Roy of the Rovers was famous for doing this.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 11:39 AM
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I think the average quality of (even pretty bad) children's programming has risen in the past 30 years, at least in the PBS Kids segment of the market. 80s-vintage Gummi Bears would be pretty intolerable. But my kid has no problem with 2000s-vintage Thomas and Friends videos or somewhat-stale Sesame Street. Similarly, he adores Ice Age (and Dumbo, for that matter) and doesn't know what a minion is yet.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 1:05 PM
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31: I think Silver Age comics in general did this a lot. Jimmy Olsen switched bodies with a gorilla at least twice.


Posted by: Micah | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 1:56 PM
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I feel like there was a singles bar in Omaha in the '90s with a name like "The Omaha Meat Market" or something like that -- a double-entendre on the city's historic place in the meat packing and cow transport industries.

Also, there was at that time a still-extant fern bar in Omaha, with rough cut diagonal wood paneling and lots of wine on the menu. It was weird.

Odd that when we say "singles bar" we're defaulting towards heterosexual versions of that institution, when queer people have always done the bar hook up scene so much better.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:02 PM
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Was 80s-vintage Gummi Bears even all that tolerable in the 80s?


Posted by: essear | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:04 PM
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34.last continued: Odd to compare this:
http://www.amazon.com/Evening-Crowd-Kirmsers-Life-1940S/dp/0816636222

To this:
http://thecolu.mn/20598/throwback-thursday-check-out-these-ads-for-the-saloon-from-the-early-1980s


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:05 PM
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|| If you run a cash-only parking garage that only gives change in coins, it seems to me this should be stated at the entrance, not just the exit. Also, what should I do with 18 one dollar coins? I'd almost prefer 72 quarters. |>


Posted by: Eggplant | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:09 PM
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To unify the thread: Why not just have PBS play the same three years of Three's Company over and over again during prime children's viewing hours?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:11 PM
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Omaha doesn't still have a fern bar?


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:13 PM
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Also, what should I do with 18 one dollar coins?

Suspend them in eggs of gelatin and give them out as party favors at your next bachelor/ette party using one of these:
http://www.vice.com/read/the-emerging-fetish-of-laying-alien-eggs-inside-yourself

[Totally safe for work as you can see by the utterly benign URL]
[Did anyone post this here yet?]


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:14 PM
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39: It might, I haven't been back since 2000


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:15 PM
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There's an excellent steakhouse here which has the most amazing gold-digging scene of all time. It's just known as a place to feel welcome if you're an old, rich man with a vaguely sleazy much younger woman, and it really takes it to 11 with the scene.

To the OP, I've decided what I really want is an Grand Theft Auto style action game that lets you play as a scary, Huey Newton style armed black radical whose mission is to terrify and rob ivy league conservative dweebs. I would play that game for hours.


Posted by: Roberto Tigre | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:16 PM
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37, 40: I was going to say "deposit them," but 40 gives a whole new twist to that phrase.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:23 PM
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What is the greater sleaze: To patronize a steak house, or to own one?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:25 PM
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There's an excellent steakhouse here which has the most amazing gold-digging scene of all time. It's just known as a place to feel welcome if you're an old, rich man with a vaguely sleazy much younger woman, and it really takes it to 11 with the scene.

Tweety and Halford really played up the glory of the restaurant-bar where we held the LA meet-up, in its dated amazingness. It was sort of funny to hail from middle America and be taken to a place renowned for its middlingness. You guys would love whole other states.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 2:50 PM
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Steak houses are sleazy now?


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:00 PM
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You don't need a barbecue to see which way the sleaze blows


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:11 PM
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I do :(


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:13 PM
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Shouldn't you be out surfing, or drag racing or something? I'm only home because I forgot to take my medicine before work and wound up feeling to crummy to do anything fun. Just another day closer to the grave, might as well spend it here.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:16 PM
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Ugh, it's way too hot to go outside.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:25 PM
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same here


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:26 PM
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I went somewhere with air conditioning. Also, far enough away to not be reminded that though my building is usually pretty quiet, the walls between apartments are fairly thin.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:33 PM
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Very very smoky here in Bozeman.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 3:53 PM
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It's raining here. I did just go out to run some errands, but I'm back now.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:00 PM
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I'm outdoors. Kind of.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:04 PM
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Just another day closer to the grave, might as well spend it here.

You leave 1600 comments and what do you get?
Another day older and deeper in debt.


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:20 PM
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The smokiness on potrero hill this morning was quite strong, hard to tell if it's the lake county, Oakland or combo of fires.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:43 PM
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Suburban Buffalo is very much warmer than I thought it would be.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 4:54 PM
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Also, the amount of international tourism (not counting fake-international stuff like Canada) is staggering to me.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:03 PM
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I was just looking at inciweb, which doesn't have your fires (due to land ownership?) and holy crap is there a lot of fire between Redding and Eureka.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:08 PM
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(http://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/5/#)


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:10 PM
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Trying again.


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 5:11 PM
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Too damn hot here, too. I should take more advantage of being bald, but now that even the stubble has fallen out I feel too self-conscious to go out without a scarf or cap, and those things are fucking hot as hell.


Posted by: J, Robot | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 6:29 PM
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Well, I had a nice long nap in the air-conditioning, and some tasty Target macaroni & cheese for supper. Life just doesn't get any better than this.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:06 PM
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I just got back from 9 nights in Yellowstone and the weather was awesome. Didn't see any bear this time but the bison and elk were everywhere and the trout were rising on the Gibbon.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:08 PM
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Sometimes the trout rise on the Gibbon, sometimes they decline and fall.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:12 PM
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Other times they scream and throw their own shit.


Posted by: Turgid Jacobian | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:14 PM
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Yes, I was trying to think of a Gibbon three-way, as it were, but I couldn't quite bring it off.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:17 PM
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Some of these threads must look pretty weird to the people with the Natilo-blocker macro.


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:18 PM
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Trout science was being conducted, man. Up near the Virginia Cascade where the water temp was 17 or 18 C it was all brook trout. Down near the falls where there's more hot springs and the water was north of 20 C, nothing but browns.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:21 PM
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So what's that in real temperatures?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:26 PM
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I wonder just how uncomfortable a difference of 5 degrees F actually feels to a fish. I mean, is the geographic (limnographic?) distribution the equivalent of people clumping up together at parties? Is it important to fish cultures?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:30 PM
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I don't know about trout, but small differences in water temperature are a big deal for salmon (which are closely related).


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:36 PM
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Natilo, you ignorant slut, 5 degrees C is a big deal. And it's interesting to see in real time where you have a river with varying temps and several species via misguided introductions from the past. (the only trout native there are cutthroat, as for exotics in general and why people would introduce them, browns are hardy and also smart, brooks are enthusiastic hitting dry flies, and rainbows are the greatest fighters on the line)


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 8:58 PM
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Here's an enthusiast's summary for two species, conveniently in Imperial. Tokerance ranges overlap, so its interesting that populations don't spatially.

https://www.troutmagnet.com/article.php?id=45


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:04 PM
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So the chart in 75 would seem to indicate that both locations were easily within the tolerance range.

And I'm genuinely curious: Obviously, the fish aren't consciously thinking "I'd better move upstream to ensure I'm at the optimal temperature for breeding and survival" -- but what DOES it take to get them to move -- a nudge or a shove?


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:10 PM
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Starting from pure theory: its hard for closely related species to share a niche; small phenological differences can dortbin space; they may differ in prey preference or predator tolerance and the other animals may have sharper temperature preferences. Gswift probably has specific hypotheses about a bunch of these differences, and there's nothing like finding the fish to test them.


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:22 PM
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Get out of here with your technical jargon words like "dortbin".


Posted by: Cryptic ned | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:23 PM
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Fishing partner/consulting ichthyologist/dad was taking the temps and suggested we'd really see a difference north of 20 degrees.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:29 PM
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Sort in, sorry.

20F or 20C?


Posted by: clew | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:34 PM
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Hot fishes, test them and see,
If this was Celsius, they'd be 33


Posted by: Natilo Paennim | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 9:57 PM
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Difference at 20 C.


Posted by: gswift | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:00 PM
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|| Apparently, all the Alaska Airlines computers are down, so no one can board on any flights. (I've made it to Seattle).

Next time anyone hears me talking about flying anywhere, please fell free to ask 'do you really have to take this trip?' |>


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 10:36 PM
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Ok, they got it. The flight boarding ahead of us was going to Redmond. That seems awfully close to Seattle. Is the traffic really that bad?


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 11:18 PM
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Ok, they got it. The flight boarding ahead of us was going to Redmond. That seems awfully close to Seattle. Is the traffic really that bad?

I hear Windows 10 is a major improvement over Windows 8 (what happened to 9?), so maybe that's it. I'm still on Windows 7 and have no intention of changing.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 11:51 PM
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In other airline news, I almost got stuck in Tununak yesterday. Seattle would have been preferable.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 08-15-15 11:54 PM
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I'll see your Gibbon and raise you the Tjuleån. No brook trout, but grayling and brown trout. We just spent five days walking there. Also, the swedes named an entire river after Ume. That was gratifying.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 2:02 AM
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85: From how people seem to keep finding new privacy violations every week or two in it I'm starting to wonder if those positive reviews are just coming from people who got a politely worded letter from Microsoft about what was on their computer.


Posted by: MHPH | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 5:01 AM
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Windows 9 got a girl pregnant and had to get a job at Burger King instead of finishing his programming degree.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 5:11 AM
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85: Redmond is so close to Seattle, in fact, that it's utterly implausible you could get a flight there from SEATAC. Are you at a municipal airport or something?


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 6:41 AM
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Google sez: There's a Redmond, OR, and Alaska flies there. Carry on.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 6:43 AM
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The fake underground-elevator in suburban Buffalo is not as good as Pittsburgh's Stratavator despite having much higher production values.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 6:58 AM
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I've never tried that one, Moby, but the Canalside stuff they've done recently makes a nice family-friendly spot. The girls and I had a great time on a pedalboat there.


Posted by: Thorn | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 7:28 AM
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We're at the waterfall part of suburban Buffalo.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 7:29 AM
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I've just seen the first harbor seal to undergo cataract surgery. But not, to be fair, the surgery itself.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 7:35 AM
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It's probably on YouTube.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 7:41 AM
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People who train marine mammals seem really defensive about where the score their livestock.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 8:05 AM
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Makes you wonder if they are hiding something, like maybe they got the kids in wetsuits from white slavers.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 8:12 AM
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conflict dolphins


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 8:42 AM
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It has been a lovely day here in Brussels. The temps are in the high teens.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 9:14 AM
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The state of New York calls unimproved rest areas "text stops."


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 9:53 AM
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91 -- Anyone who sees me posting after about 10 pm should feel free to ask 'do you really need to be on the internet?'


Posted by: CharleyCarp | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 9:55 AM
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101: I thought that was hilarious, in a sad sort of way.


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 10:02 AM
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It was funnier before I learned there was no way to dry your hands at the improved rest stops.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 10:07 AM
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In our state those are the ones where you are supposed to back into the parking spot if you are looking for anonymous sex.


Posted by: SP | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 10:27 AM
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How should you park if you want a manservant to hand you a fresh towel for drying your hands? Hire a chauffeur?


Posted by: fake accent | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 10:32 AM
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If you pull in head first, they expect you'll want nonymous sex and have supplied yourself with two forms of identification.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 10:43 AM
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94: I find standing by the rapids right above the falls to be the most stimulating/terrifying--like right along the Robert Moses Pkwy*. In my youth I recall that a barge was stuck on a rock upriver on the Canadian side; I could not stop staring at it imaging what it would be like to be on it (ah I see it is still there, and has a Wikipedia article: Niagara Scow.)

* Sort of near where this disturbing thing happened (man goes into river just above the while TV show is being filmed).


Posted by: JP Stormcrow | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 11:24 AM
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Some seven-year-old boy went over the thing and lived. It's probably not even dangerous.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 08-16-15 12:00 PM
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