I have a related question about the song about Jesus that uses a sample from The Munsters theme song as a hook. Is that just in my head?
Also, I can't stand Ed Sheeran. At least not if I have to listen to him sing. I'm not sure why.
1: Not just you. It's not quite the tune but close enough.
Sort of related pseudoscience: recognition of pop music game that researchers hope to use to elicit memories from dementia patients. Huh?
Also, I keep interpreting "Pop" as a verb in the post title.
3.last: Or for Midwesterners: Soylent Cola is people!
It's almost a tautology, isn't it? I mean, if there's one thing that unifies pop as a genre or as a classification it's that it's designed to appeal to lots of young people.
3.1: That's good to know.
Anyway, old people and young people both suck.
Nouvelle Vague is Bossa Nova covers of eighties songs made just as the kids who liked "Too drunk to fuck" or "Human Fly," both songs treated succesfully, turned 45.
There are distribution channels aimed at adults also.
"To the sickos at Modern Bride magazine..."
I suspect those people do a great deal of damage to young people. Probably more than pop music, even pop music involving Bob Dylan.
The kid I'd most like to get off my lawn radio is Rob Schneider's daughter, because Numbers 14:18.
I had no idea Rob Schneider had a daughter. I still hate those copier guy sketches.
I do love Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise," though I liked it even better when Nelly got involved.
I don't like to fling this accusation, but this is either transparent trolling or an acute case of impacted honky self-consciousness (i.e., the reversal of "I like all music, except country and rap").
I still hate those copier guy sketches.
The one with Steven Seagal was pretty funny. "Nico! Toughest cop on the force! Makin' copies!"
Does Paul McCartney still sing "When I'm 64" at his live concerts? Does he add an extra verse about a time machine?
13 seems like it's written by someone who has forgotten that most people are regular.
People come in regular, constipated, and cholera-ridden.
No one remembers scrofula.
No-one's had scrofula since they were all touched by Elvis.
Florida-Georgia Line is stunningly bad, even by the standards of pop country. Also, unlike most even very bad/poppy country artists, they can't play.
I like Luke Bryan's Country Girl (Shake It For Me)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HX4SfnVlP4
I need to find a playlist of douchebag country classics
All pop music is the same, and all pop music is horrible. The combination of having a beat, being strange to your parents, and your thirteen-year-old hormones imprints this music on your brain and you forever helplessly react to the echoes of a time when the world seemed big and buzzed with sexual possibility.
23 seems right except for my 13-year old self I would change it to "buzzed with sexual impossibility".
23: Then when did pop music begin? The 1950s?
At least I'd think you'd have to count Joplin and the like.
Now ya done it;last night's playlist, same ol same ol
Waylon Jennings;The Church;Pink Floyd;Clem Snide;The Sundays;Caravan;Count Basie;Be Good Tanya;Samadhi;Fleetwood Mac;Coltrane;John Kay;Fairport Convention;Nickel Creek;Gatemouth Brown;Green Day - Homecoming;Brighter;Ted Nugent;Lee Michaels;Horace Silver;Kinks;Ramsey Lewis;Claire Lynch;Janis Ian;Sleepy John Estes;Red Garland;Lowell Fulson;Ana Popovic;Tim Buckley;Dexter Gordon
If Hillary Clinton drags out another Fleetwood Mac song for her campaign, I'm voting for Trump.
Lots of great pop music stands up decades after it was written. There's nothing about pop music that means it has to be shit. Much of it always has been, of course, but nostalgia and natural selection filters that out.
27: How there be pop music without mass media?
32: I think player-piano rolls and cheap, wide-spread sheet music count.
Cheap widespread sheet music goes back a long way. People may have made their own entertainment when they were your age, but they relied on printers and salesmen to do it.
35, 37: Yes, this is true, but singing along to Stephen Foster songs played on the piano doesn't seem like it was much like what ogged is talking about in 23.
That's why I guessed the 20s. Because flappers and cars and petting and booze.
singing along to Stephen Foster songs
I wanted to work "Old Folks at Home" somehow into the post but it didn't jump out at me.
There's a Stephen Foster Memorial across the street from the bar of the last meet up. I think he's buried here, but in the regular cemetery, not the memorial (which is more of a performing arts center than a tomb).
Sacrilege. He should be in Florida, where he never actually stepped foot.
Fine. I'll get my grave-robbing shovel.
We'd just like a foot, please.
My neighbor is always boring grave-robbing tools, but never returns them. I guess that explains all the old suits he has.
Is my 86-year-old client going to identify with "And darling, I will be loving you until we're 70"?
Upon reflection....maybe. You don't necessarily want to be reminded of exactly how old you are in a love song. You may even enjoy pretending that you're young again.
I do love Florida Georgia Line's "Cruise,"
Eye. Roll.
Pop country is absolutely not marketing to the seniors' "niche." It's club music for places where you may also line dance. Florida Georgia Line has otherwise nothing to offer people who already have Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Charley Pride, Hank Williams et al..
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Oh, that looks cool, ta. Probably won't be able to go, but Mrs ttaM may be interested.
By the 1920s you've already got pop music that sounds recognisably like the stuff we think of as canonical pop music.
Lots of music is marketed to the seniors' demographic. It's the music they grew up with. Springsteen, The Stones, The Dead, Barbra Streisand, etc. Marketers are aware that this age group is more interested (and more able to pay for) live shows, and not especially inclined to buy new releases.
Ed Sheerin is actually the rare young one who's cashing in.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/see-rolling-stones-perform-beast-of-burden-with-ed-sheeran-20150628
Hypothesis: The Stones are more successful on tour now than they were 20 years ago, because 20 years ago their fans had to hassle with babysitters and such to get to a show. Now that the kids are grown up, back to live concerts!
If Hillary Clinton drags out another Fleetwood Mac song for her campaign
"Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies...."
Only marginally relevant, but this playlist from The Toast is one of the best mixes I've ever seen.
Also, the only good thing about the Florida/Georgia line is that gas is cheaper once you get to Georgia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTmDt4j0F6g
MS sings SF.
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I know I'm not exactly a model of efficient prose, but does the phrase "in a very real sense" ever contribute anything? For instance in this sentence from a recent The-Toast piece: "I had to recognize that, even as I'd made so much room for these books inside myself, in a very real sense they had no room for me." Couldn't one just strike those five words?
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No. It means "I'm about to say something barfworthy and I hope you don't notice."
The mix in 55 seems fun, but there's no Spotify playlist, so it's dead to me.
does the phrase "in a very real sense" ever contribute anything?
Maybe it's useful for communicating with people who go off when someone uses "literally" wrong.
58: Honestly, can't you be morally serious for the actual sake of America's hard-working middle class seniors and our plangent men and women in problematic uniform?
In a very real sense, people use "in a very real sense" to mean "in a very metaphorical sense."
I read it as "what follows is a metaphor, but it's not offhanded, I think it's really worth thinking actively about because it really illuminates the issue." That might be a stupid thing to say, most of the time -- it probably is -- but it's not meaningless.
I use it to say "Slow down in your quick skimming, I'm about to make my point."
To do that, I always make a quick and not particularly apt comparison of something to Hitler.
You're way is probably better, especially the next time I'm meeting the kid's teacher at school.
27 -- This movie tells you, with painstaking attention to detail and historical accuracy, everything you need to know about the history of pop music in the nineteenth century.
Wagner is squished beneath his own castle. During his funeral, he rises from his swastika-embossed tomb. Wagner is now actually dressed as Hitler. His electric guitar turns into a machine gun and he rampages around the city, killing Jews. It's played for laughs. It doesn't get any. Liszt - who is also now dead - climbs into a heavenly spaceship, flies back to earth and laser-explodes Zombie Vampire Hitler Wagner.
Re: 69
I've only seen bits of it. They make it sound amazing.
65: "there was no room for me" is, if not absolutely dead as a metaphor, then at least on death's door. It's like "in a very real sense" attempts simultaneously to acknowledge the tenuousness of the claim about to be made (it's only in a sense true), but also to bolster its strength (the sense is very real!!!), and it just ends up a wishy-washy mess. Strike it!
I wish I could find Standpipe's comment on lead "well,".
The American Experience on PBS showed an excellent film on Stephen Foster about 10 years ago. I don't know if those are archived somewhere.
In a very real sense, probably somewhere.
In a very real sense, I'm sitting in a chair.
In a very real sense, this true-to-life scene from the documentary about Franz Liszt is not safe for work.
I wish I could find Standpipe's comment on lead "well,".
Here you go, kiddo.
The mix in 55 seems fun, but there's no Spotify playlist, so it's dead to me.
Search comments: one of the readers created one (missing ~10% of the tracks, alas).
That playlist is mostly terrible and you all are fools.
Roberto speaks truth.*
* although there about half a dozen great songs within it.
Nothing makes me feel more masculine than reading The Toast. It's not exactly a great feeling (for me).
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Portland grows more and more like the Bay Area with each passing day, and yet I miss it now that I'm back here. I've been despairingly buying bottles of Oregon white wine rather than the local stuff. So my sense of similarity and difference may be off in general.
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which is more of a performing arts center than a tomb).
Oh? How could you tell?
Lisztomania was playing on the bar's TV at the last Bay Area meetup JM and I attended.
30:If Hillary Clinton drags out another Fleetwood Mac song for her campaign, I'm voting for Trump.
That particular Fleetwood Mac song in 29 was Peter Green doing "Black Magic Woman." Shit I'd donate $5 if HRC made it her campaign song. Maybe even better if Santana, and $25 if Gabor Szabo.
I have no expectations about what kids (under 40) know of the history of music, or if they recognize the names on my playlists. I do know some young'uns research or fall over old stuff, and the names are searchable. I have been building my taste and collection for fifty years now. Just means what I like.
Usually under 20k songs loaded, and very slow rotation, as in Townes van Zandt was in play for a year, and now is gone. Need some Cure and Gene Clark again, I think.
Aw hell
Roddy Frame;Bobby Bland;Fleetwood Mac - Oh Well;Darden Smith;Alison Krause;Lester Butler;Bela Fleck plays Beethoven bluegrass;Stravinsky;Doobie Bros;Lyle Lovett;Mott the Hoople;East River Pipe;Faraway Folk;Dwight Yoakum;Roches;Louis Armstrong;Sandy Denny;Jesus Sixto Rodriguez;Butterfield Blues;Tara Nevins;Little Walter;Toad the Wet Sprocket;A Certain Ratio;Left Banke;Ronnie Earl;David Bowie;Dexter Gordon
Don't like country? Silly. I won't deny I'm mostly mellow, not a lot of dancing music
And don't need anything new.