Re: The awful truth

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The construction fails of being parallel.


Posted by: lambchop | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:23 PM
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How embarrassing!


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:36 PM
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I think you're missing a "not" between "but" and "unheard".


Posted by: jms | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:42 PM
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:( :( :(


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:44 PM
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I submit gloating. ;-)


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:50 PM
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One of my very favorites. There's always Tulsa, Ben.


Posted by: oudemia | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 4:59 PM
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surprisingly unworried about eating brain. Wasn't BSE fear at its height in the 1990s? Or was everyone confident it couldn't happen in the U.S.?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 5:19 PM
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Well, there's a big difference between fresh pasta colored/flavored with squid ink before cooking, which is about as 1980s as it gets and would have been totally familiar, and pasta swimming in cuttlefish ink as a sauce. I'm a huge fan of the latter, but it's maybe not for everybody.


Posted by: Mr. Blandings | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 5:28 PM
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8 may or may not be relevant, but I can attest that Marcella was denigrating squid ink pasta in the early '90s, if not earlier.


Posted by: JRoth | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 8:10 PM
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This reminds me, I'm in need of a good liver recipe, having both cow and lamb livers in my freezer.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 10:52 PM
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''I think tripe is going to be the next sushi.''

There needs to be a word for prophetic statements that turn out to not be prophetic.

Interestingly, the article contains no mention of black puddings. Either because they were too exotic or not exotic enough, I can't be certain. Impossible to come by around here, for legal reasons. I'm trying to convince a back-country slaughterhouse to save me some pints of pigs blood on the sly. If that doesn't pan out, there's always plan B. But it's messy.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 10:58 PM
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There needs to be a word for prophetic statements that turn out to not be prophetic.

"Wrong"?


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:02 PM
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I was thinking something more specific and poetic.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:19 PM
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I haven't had this exact recipe but I can attest that liver and onions Venetian-stylee is good.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:24 PM
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I sincerely hope, incidentally, that your cow liver is from a calf and not an adult cow.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:24 PM
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neb nosflow: objectively pro–child murder, provided the child in question is not human.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:33 PM
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15. Interesting, why?

16. You're making an unwarranted assumption in the second half of that sentence.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:44 PM
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I'm just basing my conclusions on the specific evidence available to me.


Posted by: teofilo | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:46 PM
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The livers of full-grown cows are known to be not as nice. I can't remember offhand the specific forms their not-as-niceness is known to take, but I'm sure you can find out.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:47 PM
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Good job with the en dash there teo.

18: but your evidence doesn't extend to "provided the child is not human". Arguably, it extends only to "provided the child is a cow", but if you're going to make exclusions, the one you make seems unjustified.

For the record, I am against the murder of human children, and even of human adolescents and adults. [It has just now occurred to me that not only does "adolescent" have the stereotypical -sc- infix of inchoative verbs, but the thing that the adolescent is becoming is betrayed by the spelling: adolescent, adult. Geddit?]


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:50 PM
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6 Same here. Caught it on 35mm just last year. So good.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:52 PM
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There's a really good Stanley Cavell essay about The Awful Truth.


Posted by: nosflow | Link to this comment | 12-11-15 11:53 PM
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That's an OK scene but he hit his stride 50 years later as Randolph Duke. "Pork bellies, which are used to make bacon, such as you might find in a 'bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich"


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 12:36 AM
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Ooh, I watched The Awful Truth just last week. I'm giubg through all the major screwball comedies I haven't seen yet. Next up, The Lady Eve and Easy Living.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 2:51 AM
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And once I've guibged through them, I'll go through them.


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 2:51 AM
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19: too strong-tasting. but I am surprised the NYT would be surprised by tounge. WASPs would go for some cold thinly-sliced tongue with cornichons even at meals featuring tomato aspic in the 1970s.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 4:06 AM
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I endorse the recommendation of Venetian liver, though I've never made it myself. Traditionally eaten with polenta, I understand- certainly very good that way.

Tongue was a standard part of any cold meat platter when I was a child and I would eat it whenever it's offered. I can't imagine the environment the guy grew up in where it wasn't at least recognised, even if they didn't eat it for some reason.

Tripe needs a very highly flavoured sauce to be good IME. Callos a la Madrilena are fantastic; cooked plain it's tasteless and cloying.


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 5:56 AM
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speaking of spines my daughter is not slated for spine surgery because 1) it's dangerous 2) it only sort of might work. she can't walk either though, really. we have to rent a wheelchair. L4M3


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:27 AM
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One of the local small Chinese supermarkets sells packets of frozen pig uteri. I'm very curious to find out how they're cooked, but not to try the result.

28: really sorry to hear about your daughter, alameida.


Posted by: Ume | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:38 AM
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24: Don't forget Holiday!


Posted by: snarkout | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:56 AM
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How is she taking it?


Posted by: idp | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:56 AM
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28. Oh shit! Sorry about that. Do they give you any advice on what next?


Posted by: chris y | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 7:41 AM
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There needs to be a word for prophetic statements that turn out to not be prophetic.

J/ohn G/ruber calls this "claim chowder," in one of his more smug and irritating recurring features.


Posted by: Yawnoc | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 7:50 AM
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Al, what is the issue? Is this the kind of thing where it might be worth bringing her to the States to see a specialist?


Posted by: ogged | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 8:14 AM
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28: good grief, I had no idea things were that bad. Poor thing. All good wishes to all of you, for what's that worth; what is the next step?


Posted by: ajay | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 10:13 AM
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Yikes. All good thoughts going your way.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 10:25 AM
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Holy shit, al, I'm sorry.

Also curious about 34.


Posted by: heebie-geebie | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 10:43 AM
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Speaking of pig parts, I was at a holiday gathering the other day, and the hosts put out a big plate of fried calamari. I sat in quiet horror, thinking of this TAL episode, as I watched the other guests gnaw away happily. I didn't say anything, of course, because no one wants to be the buzzkill who's all, "Hey, did you know you might be eating a pig's asshole right now?"


Posted by: Stanley | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:15 AM
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Anybody who's eaten a hot dog or a delicious bratwurst has probably eaten a pigs asshole. I say fuck you to people who would probably defend human analingus against sex-phobes but would deny us our right to eat a pig's butt.


Posted by: R Tigre | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:24 AM
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Al so very sorry. Trying to think of vastly amusing cheering things she might enjoy ...


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:32 AM
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28: So sorry to hear that!


Posted by: AcademicLurker | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 12:21 PM
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Al, that's really tough. I hope there are solutions. This is your younger daughter, Girl Y, right?

BTW, I read L4M3 as describing the sites of the problem. L4, ok. M3 had me wondering if it was Narnian for T3. Then I clued in to the code. D'oh!


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 12:36 PM
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There needs to be a word for prophetic statements that turn out to not be prophetic.

"Kristolesque"


Posted by: Salty Hamhocks | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 2:33 PM
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That's terrible Al, all my sympathies.


Posted by: Barry Freed | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 3:18 PM
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34: Care in the U.S. would be crazy expensive. Does Narnia U provide coverage that would pay for it?


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:13 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear about your daughter, Al.


Posted by: Moby Hick | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:27 PM
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Yeah, that sounds really awful, al. Thoughts (and prayers) are with you.


Posted by: Bostoniangirl | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 6:50 PM
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So sorry for you & your family, alameida. I've been thinking of you guys all week/end.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 8:27 PM
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Al, how awful! Small atheist prayers for your daughter.


Posted by: Nworb Werdna | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 10:34 PM
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mmm, she's not scared but she's really, really pissed off and frustrated. she and I have to do careful, consistent physical therapy to build an armature of core muscles around her spine. she has waay overly-lax ligaments (like me, and like my sister who herself has ehlers-danlos syndrome.) so on the plus side maybe her increasing pain has been caused, not so much by the cyst on her spine as my ordinary soft tissue damage that was exacerbated by her hobbling around favoring her foot. this is way better than nerve-damage type spine problems, which I have in addition to the other kind. the physical therapy she needs to do is the same for me, so we'll have to do it together. this next month is sort of make-or-break; lying in bed too much might cause her muscles to lose all tone, making every movement painful, and then it would be a vicious cycle. so we have to work super-hard on this and try to get her to the point where she can stand for longer than five minutes without being crippled by pain.

narnian doctors are very good on the whole though their bedside manner leaves much to be desired. I think everything will be fine, for some value of fine. I almost feel the sorriest for husband x who is terrified and miserable. thanks for the kind thoughts!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 10:59 PM
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they gave us drugs too for pain and muscle relaxers. US doctors would cost infinity much but if I really thought it would help I'd ask for the money from a trust. our insurance here is good though a hassle to deal with BUT they told husband x they don't cover congenital conditions. so I am not having her genetically tested for ehlers-danlos and stuff because I'm scared they'd kick us off, and also there is no treatment other than symptomatic treatment like they're giving her now. but I don't know what the insurance company is thinking? will they not cover lupus? cancers towards which people have a genetic propensity? difficult for me to see what congenital means here exactly.


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:04 PM
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Fingers crossed for the PT. All of this sounds frightening to me. Good thoughts toward your daughter and to you and husband x.


Posted by: md 20/400 | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:20 PM
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Hyper mobility is a drag, I hope the PT is intelligent. I've found strain/counterstrain helpful for chronic spasms, in addition to super hyper controlled strength training. It is basically impossible to be too aware that movements perfectly safe for those without extra flexibility can instantly cause months of agony. Unrelenting diligence with super tightly controlled small movements works over the long haul, but it sure as hell isn't fun.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-12-15 11:59 PM
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Well, Cary Grant.

That is all.


Posted by: Just Plain Jane | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 12:27 AM
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Shit! And here I was feeling very sorry for myself and much put upon just because I have to read Unfogged comments in the cat/cow yoga pose after going Oakland-New York-Kansas City-Chicago-London-Milan-Lake Como-Milan-London-Atlanta-Kansas City-Washington-Oakland-Kansas City...

Good luck to all in much more need of physical therapy than I am. And might I suggest that reworking our genome to fit a quadruped lifestyle using voice-commanded robots to manipulate things be placed on the agenda?

Or prehensile trunks: this upright posture with a vertebrate spine thing really does not do too well...


Posted by: GnOlEd DaRb | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 10:06 AM
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54: Ha! Yes, the trick seems to be - contrive to be born the lanky and graceful son of a hypermobile mother. Last night's performance confirmed that the kid although very pale can totally move all the bits in Bollywood fashion. They were all great! There were some salsa dancers who did a wonderful salsa muerta too, they danced as zombies and not, switching back and forth expertly, absolutely charming and they danced the hell out of it.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 10:49 AM
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56: we're off in a bit to the Nutcracker performance you recommended last year, and the child starts winter break "Nutcracker dance camp" in Berkeley in a week, is thrilled beyond measure. She really enjoyed the Bollywood video! If you drop me a line here I can share with you the video of her, at 2.75 years of age, dancing along with "non-stop bhangra" in an East Bay park. VERY SERIOUS AFFAIR. She wouldn't let me leave until the dance party quit.

they don't cover congenital conditions

hguirwayh83489ngrjio80utijosaetjjkasgiuh so, one of these simple cases where you're morally obligated to lie to the insurance company? I bet we can set up a nice trolley problem with an ambulance full of sick kids and a gold-plated Lear jet. Don't hit the jet! No one hits the jet! While the jet cannot itself perform MedFlight operations... Anyway, infuriating but fingers crossed for you that there is some path through this labyrinth. The women in your family seem admirably brave.


Posted by: lurid keyaki | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 12:43 PM
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Oh will do! May not make it to city ballet ballbuster as there is a parental cold and baleful homework BUT absolutely delighted to hear of budding dance faver! Yay!


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 1:05 PM
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Just realized it was possibly somewhat tasteless to stop for steak tartare on the way to child's Bollywood performance? And I'm supposed to coordinate with someone named Sid to give him/her a ticket.

Hope the nutcracker was good! I worry that since Yuri left it's lost some of it's charm as a production and gone too far in the circus tricks direction but that's probably 75% just having loved it so dearly when our boy was bedevilled, then Fritz, then a toy/prince.


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 7:34 PM
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The beef was excellent, btw. As was the wine. And i have left Sid to the tender mercies of box office staff with "a list".


Posted by: dairy queen | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 7:59 PM
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Thanks for the liver recipe suggestion, y'all, I will give it a try. Even though I do have cow liver, not veal.

Al: sorry to hear about your daughter. I don't want to step in with advice where it's not wanted, so I'll keep this short. But, from the brief description you've provided, it does sound like musculature is an issue, and, to that end, have you looked into weight lifting? The case for a serious, progressive weighlifting routing as physical therapy is, to me, convincing, and putting my money where my mouth is, I've started my own routine in an effort to address years of back pain. I'm not a doctor, so I really know nothing about you or your daughter's situation, so take this not as a recommendation but perhaps something to look into. I went through the whole gamut for my issue; Dr, chiros, masseuses, PT. All basically useless. But with weightlifting, already some results.


Posted by: Michael | Link to this comment | 12-13-15 10:43 PM
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The Lady Eve was a bit of a let-down, Barbara Stanwyck aside. Though I was quite scandalised at how racy it was for a Hays Code film, what with its hot cheek-on-cheek action and clear intimations of the existence of intercourse. Other than that though, I just didn't find it particularly funny, and the characters' actions made zero sense, even more than usual for a screwball comedy


Posted by: Ginger Yellow | Link to this comment | 12-14-15 3:32 AM
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thanks again for the advice, peeps, and michael I agree weight training would be good. we've decided we'll pony up for a person to come to our house; my sponsor is a pilates trainer and knows another person who has some medical training also. I feel I learned the basic PT moves pretty well in the hospital but when we go back I need to hear what exactly we should NOT do ever.

heebs--I realize I haven't told you I've been thinking about you and you are super-brave and awesome. hope the recovery goes well!


Posted by: alameida | Link to this comment | 12-14-15 4:20 AM
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